I use this WAY MORE than my vintage electric pianos... 

I just got the reface CS from sweetwater. Same type of situation. Was originally looking at the CP but I am first a bass player and guitar player so having the CS for synth bass was appealing…. Plus to my ears you can get some pretty cool electric piano and organ sounds from the CS as well.

@@dano4071 Solid intel. As an update, they pushed back the date on me so I'm still waiting on my CP. I really was excited about the tones available on the CP, but maybe the CS is good enough.

@@tigerkeyroll it’s more or less a toy/experiment for me. I wanted the Reface electric piano and organ models….once I figured out I could use the CS as a synth bass and still get the other sounds I was looking for it made sense for me to get that model. I’m just trying to pick up the keys, I’m sure the other two models get much more authentic sounds for those applications. I just didn’t want to have to buy more than one reface lol.

@@tigerkeyroll Appreciate the update. I've been after one, so this really helps. Thanks!

@@tigerkeyroll i ordered one from sweetwater and they told me sometime in september for it to ship

absolutely agree

I actually enjoy them as is... Kinda forces you to approach them differently😊👍🏻🎹

Would they fit into a single rack drawer? They're not very tall.

Oh hai rich evans

@@bigbeautifulbreakfast nope thought of doin that..they’re 20” long

That's my solo project

the dongle of Digital Foundry

Lol omg I just came to the comments section to mention my new jam band idea, “Bespoke Dongle.” 😜

You are!

The bespoke dongle is garbage. Trying to get midi routed through that thing was a pain. The usb works like a charm though.

At full depth it can be pretty jarring oh yeah

lol

Totally! Hard pan on two speakers side by side in a room is less... hard

Many say that and I agree, if it was that way round I would have bought one three week's ago; a shame really.

@@chrisnaran8293 My general feeling is they were likely planning on some kind of reboot of a full-size CP down the road, and these were kind of testing the waters to see the response. Few years later, they came out with a full size CP and YC. I still like them as portable devices.

I believe there was a Yamaha support page that mentioned this sound's existance and from what I recall, this piano sample set is their common standard piano test sound which they use on many of their keyboards and I also think they didn't mention why it's still there. Maybe they just didn't feel like removing it after the development and kept it in there. Unfortunately I can no longer find the page :/

Totally agree

@@theIpatix This is the most likely scenario, I believe. Grand piano is probably the synth engine's default sample set that they probably didn't intend to be an actual option, but by leaving the wheel between settings, the microcontroller never receives any signals for which sample set to switch to, so it just doesn't. I imagine the designers just never tested for it, since it's a weird scenario. One of those things that's more "bug" than "feature" -- not that I'm going to complain.

My first rock band in highschool (Legacy) featured TWO keyboard players! One was an excellent percussionist and I played flute so we had alot of flexibility. Anyhoo, one of the keyboards was a Wurlitzer reed organ with a Leslie. It sounded really good but he broke into the electrics of the organ and installed a Big Muff fuzz box that he kept on top in the sheet music holder. It growled like a hell hound. Fuzzed reed organ badness.

@@Chris-is6xb Hi Chris, yep, those leslie's were killer to run about any organ thru. When I had the brown wurlitzer, I had a vox continental organ thru a leslie. Mine, and I'm guessing yours since it wasn't a hammond, had a break out box I guess you'd call it that plugged into the leslie and then you plugged whatever instrument or organ into the box. It had a foot switch that controlled the rotating horn and bottom part. And it was indeed cool. Never thought about adding a fuzz, but that would have been cool I'm sure. But this was back in the sixties and we did not have as many choices for effect pedals then as we do now. What a great ride music has been for me. Sometimes up, sometimes down, but never out of the game. I've been truly blessed because music has always been the love of my life. And todays music world? Fantasy land with all the "tools" we have to work with now. I go back to when the first studio I worked in had two Ampex two tracks. Very good machines, but quite limited. And now today in my studio I have a computer based system, 48 dedicated tracks go out by a light wire interface to my fully automated DM-2000 Yamaha board, a beast. And if you ever need more than 48 tracks you can sub mix in the software and send sub mixes out to the board. And editing is a breeze compared to the splicing blocks we used on the tape machines. And we won't even get into the myriad of pluggins available now lol! What a wonderful time to be in music. I just wish I had more years left. The younger Gen has no idea what they have lol! But I love watching what they do with it, and some of them are amazing. And then of course there's youtube "university" where you can learn about anything, but I'll stop here. That's another deep well!

Good to hear that cheers. Sounds like a really cool stage setup!

dude your video editing is epic

I had a 1976 Rhodes. I wanted the CS Pro 1, but couldn't afford it. I used a Yamaha CS5 for left hand bass and loved it. The Rhodes got too cumbersome to haul, so I went with a DX7, then added a TX7 module. Sold the DX/TX because i got a great deal on a DX5.

I wish they'd make the toy piano the hidden sound and the actual piano out front.

Ohh great to see you here, much appreciated. 🙏🙏🙏

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ahh cheers, thats exactly what I want, spread the word

It is a cool sound

🙏🙏Happy to !

ill have to try that!

@@JorbLovesGear If you ever come across a Wurlitzer 1953-1963 4410, 4420, or 4430 electrostatic continuous free reed organ grab it. These were built in the esteemed North Tonawanda, NY Niagara Falls Wurlitzer Factory. ( see the 1950 Wurlitzer factory tour... they even made their own nuts and bolts!) A great read for these organs is this incredible pictorial, animated article from the *North Suburban Hammond Organ Society* ( ggl NSHOS Wurli 4600). The 4600 is the 25 pedal 2 x 61 keys, full console model, but the 4410 spinet is identical internally. (I own a Wurlitzer 4410 and made a 10min adlib demo on my channel) .They never need tuned, and their electromechanical design makes for an incredibly thick, rich tone, but at the same time the flutes are very sweet. The reeds are all in motion continuously in isolated soundproof cast metal boxes. The reeds are not used acoustically, but for their harmonic content, then filtered into voices. The continuous playing of all the reeds was Wurlitzer's answer to Hammond tone wheel generators instant attack for popular music, as all tone wheels were always spinning. Hammond one upped Wurlitzer just two years later in 1955 with the introduction of Key Percussion, which immediately brought organ into the jazz world. Wurlitzer did have something Hammond TW organs could do. Sustain. Wurlitzer invented Sustain. Others followed. The principle of the circuit is each key on the keyboard has a capacitor/ resistor bleed off to ground. So every note played has it's own independent sustain. Wurlitzer ES reed organs also have String and Reed voices besides flute. Also Sustain-I for Flutes, and Sustain-II for Strings/reeds. This independent susa really makes independent voices mesh beautifully. ie. A tight string reed rhythm in the lower manual while playing a flute with sustain in the upper. The only issue I've ever seen with these ES (ES abbrev. not official just easier...) Wurli's is the four hard rubber, quarter size blower motor (actually it pulls vacuum...inside reed cabinet, stays like new in there!) mounts on some break. Just use Gorilla Glue and suspend motor back level with blower shaft. Something very cool is the tool-less amp/filter chassis removal. Just flip a lever. Oh' and the 4430 model has a built-in Wurlitzer SpectoTone (similar to a Leslie rotosonic drum speaker. The two 4" speakers have a crossover on them. Amazing sound.

exactly, its close but nowhere close to sound the same

The comparison should be done once the EP has been put through a mic.

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🙏🙏 Happy to share it, cheers

Truue, like we're all in on it

Appreciate that, I cant play many other ways! lol

Ooo I love ginger root, my guess would be wurlitzer! I just noticed a like, feeding back delay twisted time sound in one of their live recordings, I wonder if it was the CP, seems fitting. Good on the Daw recs, thats a blindspot for me

Thank you, appreciate that!

The YC is great too. I love messing with the drawbars while I play.

Ahh thanks Josh. These are great, a little vinyl sim into your 404 and you're in business. Actually, theres surprisingly good epiano sounds on the SC88, if you dont mind velocity just being on volume. Run that mf'er through the 404 and you're in lo-fi heaven

🙏🙏🙏Happy to do it

I haven't tried the others in any legitimate fashion, but would love to! Dx Especially

Same. Now I want a CP and a CS!

Any resource for that mod? I havent really looked into it, but I imagine its disconnecting a single point of that mode switch?

I need to do this

Any chance you can disconnect the clavinet instead because i wouldn't use that but use toy piano

This in even like 49 key full size case with some more control over eq or the effects would sell really really well

Beautiful Radiohead sounds indeed

Also, absolutely love your playing. Always loved ep sounds myself, and you really reminded me how much Id truly love playing those sounds, but actually being able to play the keyboard.. lol

The other classic wurlitzer sound for me is 'you're my best friend' by Queen. Just that octave bass bit. I never knew at the time what that instrument was, but when I heard a wurly I knew instantly that was it.

That’s how I run my Wurlitzer. Only because of them.

@@adamziolkowski2549 Classic sound. Hard to beat.

Sold!!!!!

What does reface mean?

Cheers, thanks for that! Yeah, this little guy is a great place to start

Ahh cheers, great show. Thanks for popping in, this keyboard is a real winner

Cheers, happy to share it

@Of Age Non Related Carp Nonetheless the sounds on it to me sound way better than any plugin version I’ve heard of the same emulations. You are telling me you really can’t hear a difference?

oh my god how could i forget. ripping the CP70 as I roll around stage. lol

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$450 vs what $10,000+ for all 3 originals. The difference is not great enough to justify that. Especially in a mix where most couldn't tell and nearly all wouldn't care.😂

really is

🙏Happy to share! Yeah I'd like to incorporate the CP into more mobile jam stuff, would be a great fit

Cheers, thanks!

I’ve heard Bach was a wurli man. I prefer tines, myself

Nah, Bach felt da funk!

Triple Bach loved the hopsichord

Well of course Bach loved the Hopsichord, and hops, he was German, right? Nobody likes a Beer more than a German! 🍺

I love my YC - tweaking the "drawbars" and switching the speed on the rotary is so much more fun than playing static organ presets.

I wish they had switched the toy piano with grand piano.

@@ferox965 I just wish the Grand was a 7th setting. I’m unlikely to want to do anything other than add a little reverb to the grand where as the toy is great for additional effects.

Ahhh makes sense

really does impress me

To be honest, it sounds a lot like a tape flange effect when he sweeps the delay along like that.

Very interesting, I wonder how a filter can affect the change of delay time. Safe to say there are a lot of tricks you can do with filters to get a great sound!

Absolutely same

same

It really is great. I haven't tried the cs! Would like to though

@@JorbLovesGear I got the reface cp first, and was blown away by it enough to look into the CS. Someone on RU-vid did a cover of ROYGBIV with it and it totally sold me. Worth checking out for anyone on the fence about it, or just to enjoy and appreciate the sounds coming from such a cheap board! It still amazes me every time I hear it

The CS is my favorite synth and I own a JP-08, Poly D and Deepmind 12. Something about the simplicity and sheer amount of sweet spots

I love my Reface CP dearly but my jaw dropped when I heard the genuine MKII. Irrespective of the noise, it sounds unbelievably good.

@@medardfischer Agree, the sound of the real thing is captivatingly beautiful.

Yep. I was like "That CP is sounding good" ....then he plays the Rhodes and I am like "Well then....gulp"

Putting them back to back feels so rude. lol

@@JorbLovesGear damn, the rhodes sounded so good. i liked the noise, too. sounds alive. i use an SV-1, but it makes me want to ditch it and buy the headache gear.

Real over-performer for a mini rig. Nice!

AAyyy here you go!

Lol, its a totally other genre of keyboard playing. Its own skill to work on

Big yes to that.

Hi Carter. I was not a fan when they first came out as they were overpriced imho. When Yamaha dropped the price to £269 here in the UK I bought the CS because I wanted a modern alternative to my CS-01, (no CV/Gate or MIDI), next came the DX (my DX100 is unwell and needs TLC), quickly followed by the CP 'cause I didn't have a Rhodes or Wurli or a CP piano sound in my collection. Not got the YC but every reface I have definitely offers plenty of bang for your buck. I don't have much space in my studio so the reface form factor is the perfect size for me and great for throwing in a bag when going somewhere. It took me a while, but I can endorse your words "the reface series IS amazing." Thanks for the warning about chaining the DX, I've not chained it yet but now I know, all thanks to you.

I just put my DX at the end of a chain, the 'sequencer' on it is more of an afterthought or sketchpad anyway, not something you want running the show. Since it hasn't got an arpeggiator I can't think what else you'd need its clock for other than delay, and you can just dial that in manually like in ye olden tymes.

Another minus of the Reface DX is that it always send Program Change. No way to turned it off. For me it was a problem while controlling some soft synth (that also doesn't have a PG receive off). Fortunately I found a software MIDI Pipe that solved that problem. And yes, the Reface DX it's great! :)

I have the YC reface because I really wanted my CP 25/35 back very badly

Thats weird about the DX. It got this new wave of FM editing right a little sooner than some others, with fixed ratio's and panel faders for operator editing.

Ultimate patches make a bunch of pretty great Rhodes and Wurli sounds!

@@swid_swid_swid Yeah I ended up getting those and they are great. I'd still like to find something inexpensive for acoustic piano sounds

you can use any keyboard you want... and this toy treat as sound module

I need this

@@kazymarty111 but who wants to bring a whole extra piece of gear?

I have the reface YC and I always hook it up to another keyboard. I wish they’d done the reface as pure modules without the tiny keyboard.

They made it. It's called CK61. It looks big, but it weighs like 10lbs. It has the Reface CP and YC sounds (but not the extra ones from the newer big expensive YC and CP keyboards), and good acoustic pianos, and some extra sounds that are so-so, just there in case you're desperate. There are more physical controls, too... but not as many knobs for fx (but the fx are all there, and more). I didn't like the 61 key keyboard that much - the CK88 has Yamaha's portable Graded Hammer Standard action keys, and I like those better than the PSR-style sprung synth keys on the CK61. But the CK88 model weighs over 20lbs. They both have down facing speakers, which are not as powerful as the P-125 speakers, for example.

truuum, I should've plugged some in

CP88?

I just want the reface exactly as it is but with bigger keys! It did have an SV1 in the past which is a similar concept.

Ohh it does, good ear