I used to HATE the Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive

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@JackFossett 5 месяцев назад

Check out the Boss SD-1 on Zzounds! www.zzounds.com/a--3985805/item--BOSSD1 -- thats an affiliate link, and if you buy a Boss Super Overdrive (or anything else) through it, you support my channel at no extra cost to you!

@trigliderider 10 месяцев назад

All combinations sounded good. May look into get one to try. Thanks for posting.

@mkrj2576 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for the vid. I like my sd1 but with the drive set relatively low on a slight to modestly pushed amp. But to avoid going down the rabbit hole of chasing too many tones I keep away from trying too many pedals and try to make what I have work. Its my only “mid hump” pedal.

@JamieMeyerArtist 10 месяцев назад

You make my soul smile ❤ Happy Sunday

@GPLP335 9 месяцев назад

Great video Jack. I've been using an SD-1 for a long time. I play it with Fender and Gibson guitars through Fender amps, and also used it when I owned a Marshall. I also have a BD-2 for softer overdrive. Both are very cool pedals used independently and sometimes together.

@chuckwagon7860 10 месяцев назад

Hi Jack! Great vid as always! I use the Blues Driver, but really liked the tone on this! Blessings to you!

@JackFossett 9 месяцев назад

Awesome! Thank you!

@lylemanion3653 10 месяцев назад

So glad you did this one. It's like a TS looking for a bar fight. Nice intro jam, too!!

@Two_Seat_Pete_FatA55 10 месяцев назад

Cringe description lol

@JackFossett 10 месяцев назад

TS looking for a bar fight might be my favorite pedal description ever

@graemero5532 10 месяцев назад

Great video Jack. It is fuzz pedals for me. Cannot get much out of them, but like hearing a good players use them.

@Urizen777 8 месяцев назад

I've grown to really love SD-1. However, I either use it as a boost pedal on overdriven Laney and Marshall tube amps or (somewhat atypically) stacked with DS-1, where SD-1 is set to deliver its warm tone and tube-like fullness and DS-1 is set just to bring its famous bite and grit over it. Depending on the knob settings these two pedals combined can be amazingly versatile.

@mickertyable 9 месяцев назад

Brilliant intro -one of your best

@JackFossett 9 месяцев назад

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!

@thetanman2233 10 месяцев назад

My go-to drive. I use 2 on my board, an Analogman modded one and the Waza Craft version from Boss, both do their own thing. I never stack them together, but I love to stack them with a BD-2 for a louder/gnarlier gain sound or my Epoch Boost from Catalinbread for a sound that’s big and plenty hairy, but with a bit of smoothness to it. Into a Marshall SV20/2x12 cab with a V30 and a Greenback

@backlom 10 месяцев назад

Great, great great opening riff

@glennmartin4232 10 месяцев назад

I used one of these with a Roland space echo. Great combo. With Marshall 100 watt superlead. loud.

@dmac3316 10 месяцев назад

SD1 is a desert island drive for me 👍 cool vid!

@matthewgurlitz3514 6 месяцев назад

I have had an SD-1 for ages, and like it, along with my Tube Screamer. At living room volumes, the mid hump sounds a bit dull, but with a cooking tube amp, that's what they are made for. At lower volumes I usually use a BD-2 or an OD-3, but the SD-1 is certainly a winner.

@GuitarsAndTea 10 месяцев назад

That does sound good, I used to like fuzz pedals but I'm leaning into overdrive now for more nuance and musicality in my sound

@jpbialade 6 месяцев назад

I was about to sell it, until I tried it on the dirty channel on my orange amp, slightly overdriven, with a 69 strat. Sounds amazing. Great video.

@jcsk8 6 месяцев назад

I love this pedal. It´s asymetric cliping goes very well with my Peavey classic 30.

@Chasetenny 10 месяцев назад

One of my fav pedals, I like to balance it out with a Soulfood for more low end.

@msmoniz 10 месяцев назад

I love the SD-1 so much I have one one my main pedal board and one on my mini pedal board. Run into amps on the edge of break up and just the extra crunch and sting but smoothness on leads. To say it’s versatile is an understatement. I’ve seen used from Gordon Lightfoot’s touring electric guitar player, to Lindsay Buckingham as his only overdrive, to several hard rock to metal and punk players use it as boost into an overdriven amp to get more oomph! It’s a still much used classic for a reason and sounds as great as ever for cheap compared to many boutique ODs.

@dammitcarl1082 8 месяцев назад

Very tasteful playing in the intro!

@JackFossett 8 месяцев назад

Thank you kindly!

@satchvairules 4 месяца назад

I love my sd-1 and is staying on my board… I use it to push a slightly dirty AC15 and although it pushes the middle frequencies a lot I find in a band sense it works for me especially when playing with keys and piano which eat up audio spectrum. ❤

@TheNorthernChris 7 месяцев назад

Great video Jack, thank you. The piece of gear that I just cannot bond with is the ProCo Rat. I’ve also tried a Turbo Rat but got the same results. It’s a classic that sounds great in the hands of other players…. But I just can’t get on with it. I am however a big fan of the SD-1. I currently have the SD-1w on my board and it’s a keeper.

@JackFossett 7 месяцев назад

I can relate - Rats can be tricky

@sixpicker82 4 месяца назад

I ditto the RAT. So much string sing. I was actually just messing around running the SD-1 into the rat. It seems to smooth out the harsh highs from the rat. I was playing into Tweed Pro Jr. with a Strat. I will say the SD-1 sounds best with single coils. Definitely did not work with P-90’s

@Walsh6141 7 месяцев назад

If I'm not using the Ibanez TS9 then I am using this one. I keep the Drive knob either at 9 or 10 o'clock and Tone always somewhere under 12 o'clock. Sometimes i'll have a Dunlop Echoplex Preamp in front of the Boss SD-1 to give it a slightly darker and bolder tone as the pedal by itself can sometimes sound thin with Strat type guitars. So I have these two pedals combined with my Fender Stratocaster and a 1984 Peavey Special 130 combo solid state amp. And it all sounds just magical and couldn't ask for more.

@TheSignalman07 Месяц назад

I have had 3 of them, including the recent 40th anniversary black version!!! You are right!!! The I bought in 1999/2000 did have a little bit of a muddy flubby sound to it!! The 40th anniversary version and my other one which is about 8 years old are tight, and sound amazing!!

@RideAcrossTheRiver 10 месяцев назад

Old Boss analog pedals are great! I was lucky enough to have a cool boss (!) who gave me his ancient DM-2 Delay and CE-2 chorus. The delay I retired as it's done its duty. I have a DS-1 and early 00s BD-2. No need for 'modern' stuff.

@stratosexual1329 10 месяцев назад

They are $60 new and $40 used all day long. I can’t say enough good things about it. Fantastic playing Jack!

@JackFossett 9 месяцев назад

Thank you kindly!

@peteytwofinger 10 месяцев назад

big muff, anything germanium , are my head scratchers - not a fan but i also play outdoors in higher temps all the time. Did i really play thru a Big Muff for how many years? its going to sound funny but i like to use the sd-1 on bass . i just built a board that has a zvex sho , cot 50 , a timmy , and a clark gainster or hoochee mamma pedal . going to try that out on my handwired jtm45 and see how fast the cops come . ive been more into boosts lately tho . the ep boost i built , and of course the SHO . excited about the cot50 tho . thats really a great circuit . i have been playing a strat lately so everything is filtered thru the 2-4 position . a lot of the pedals i tested kill that 2-4 strat thing tho . the mod'ed dod250 with led clippers is something special as well , but its not common. its a completely different pedal with the stock diodes and not many people have a led dod250 . the hoochee mamma is phenomenal ,a clark gainster that is made with old tube amp components , like oversized carbon comp resistors , paper in oil capacitors . its phat - like it has a perfect low end thing that is not flabby or tight , its massive and sounds great down there . other od's all sound thin. but where are you going to find a hoochee mamma . i may end up ditching the timmy and swaping this out for a modified EP boost that has toggle bright and low switches . thats another one that goes with the ac 30 like bacon and eggs . thats been my thing lately . i plan to embrace that and milk playing more mellow stuff for a few years and then break out the mt-2 /corpse paint, when our fanbase ( the grandkids) are a little older and not as fragile . good to hear you havent lost it yet pal . always sound fantastic .

@airdog1829 4 месяца назад

I find The Boss Blues Driver ideal for creating an edge of break up tone at unity gain through a clean channel. It is bright enough to replicate your amp tone at low gain settings. Adding the SD1 to that is a good stacking option.

@dahliafiend 10 месяцев назад

I use it after my reverbs and delay for a dirty shoegaze sound but replacing it with a Morning Glory and an OCD msde s huge difference for the better with my Princeton. Alone they just sound like 80s rock to me.

@stevemac601 2 месяца назад

Use mine into a Laney AOR3012 into the low input, set just a bit hairy for lower gain songs. Lead Boost with a GE7 and sometimes stack it with a OCD to thicken it up for a tighter overdrive. Quite a lot of tones in SD1's 😊

@Dimefan91 6 месяцев назад

I love mine!!! Running it into a Jet City 20 pushed just past breakup played through a Les Paul clone and I can get a nice 80s hair metal sound, or crank the gain and scoop the mids on the amp the SD1 fills that void taming the low end to get a nice 90s metal chunk. It seems to work best on dirty amps, it never played nice with clean tones but running it before a Wampler Black 65 it could get a decent 70s Punk sound (not as nasally as a Marshall, but a clean with dirt overtone). Volume at unity, keep gain as low as you can to just push the amp without overpowering it and adjust the tone from 0 slowly increasing to get the sweet spot

@KingDavidProject 2 месяца назад

I am on my third SD -1. I use it almost every day. I take it with me busking. After awhile the little rubber piece on it wears out and it can't turn on and off.

@serranodavid3247 10 месяцев назад

Really depends on your picking attack, the Boss Blues Driver really delivers the goods... may be a little too fuzzy past 2:00

@eoinjennings519 10 месяцев назад

I use the SD1w and much prefer it to tube screamer playing with Les Paul - use it to mid push pair a Blues Driver

@jsirius94 10 месяцев назад

I miss my SD-1, it was my first drive pedal because it was cheap. My entire rig was the SD-1, DD-7, and a Line 6 Verbzilla. Later added a Ernie Ball VP Jr. but it was a simple rig. I had just swapped in a set of Seymour Duncan 59 pickups into my Epiphone and been introduced to the world of actual dynamic pickups. So I just played with the volume on the guitar and my pick dynamics since I had one drive pedal. I kinda miss the simplicity of that rig, I got a lot of sound out of it

@billtice5057 7 месяцев назад

I’ve been playing this pedal now for 39 years. My experience is that the pedal performs best (asymmetrical clipping) when you have the gain over half way up and then use the guitars volume pot to add or rollout the gain. When you play this pedal this way you’ll find that this pedal really comes alive.

@cc771 2 месяца назад

I love my 1986 Boss SD-1 overdrive with my Friedman Pink Taco. It push my amp to blues, 80s rock, hard rock, hair metal, heavy metal, thrash metal, and even death metal. Perfect pedal for Marshall style amps.

@Shred_The_Weapon 10 месяцев назад

I’ve got this pedal (more or less) simulated on my Boss ME-80, so I could turn to it anytime I want that particular drive tone. I liked all the examples of it heard here, Jack. As for that sound others have used that didn’t suit me, I’d choose another Boss product, the Metal Zone. As Philip McKnight has shared, most players who’ve plugged into one have cranked up all its gain and EQ parameters to the max. On the ME-80, I’ve tried (not successfully so far) to harness the Metal Zone sim for the same purpose that I now have a Goat Generator from the Japanese manufacturer Rancher, to try approximating saturated Boston guitar tone without having to buy any of the original Rockman units built by Tom Scholz. Mr. McKnight did say that there was a lot to be achieved if you don’t push all the settings to the max.

@JackFossett 10 месяцев назад

Thats generally true of a lot of gear -- frequently the best tones aren't found by maxing everything. Despite what our inner rock warlords want to believe.

@guitarsplusct 4 месяца назад

Here’s my take on gear I’ve heard other people use that I like, but doesn’t seem to work, or at least as well, for me. The Seymour Duncan JB pick up. I once read that Warren DiMartini of Ratt had one installed in his guitar and immediately loved it. I have one in my ‘85 Les Paul custom. It’s OK, it gets the job done but I can’t say I love it. It sounds a lot better in Warren‘s guitar.

@Paul_Lenard_Ewing 10 месяцев назад

The BOSS SD-1 is literally a clone of a Ibanez Tube Screamer with the diodes swapped out . Brian Wampler took one and converted it back to a Tube Screamer and did a Post on doing it step by step. A Timmy, a Jan Rey and Lightspeed are all the same thing. Just tweaked Tube Screamers. Nothing wrong with it except they all keep their mouth shut and pretend they just invented the wheel!!! It is so prevalent for every company to make one that people say they hate the ts and would never buy one have 2 on their board and just don't know it because it is branded with another name and has changed the values of the diodes. The human ear has over 100% more accuracy than your eyes to hear differences. Even making a perfect spec ts with exact values of parts but using different brands of those parts makes a perceivable difference.

@graemero5532 10 месяцев назад

Thanks, that explains why I don't like any of those pedals. I know that the two overdrives I do like are both FET based.

@bradeasleymusic 10 месяцев назад

Except that Boss invented the wheel. Ibanez just added a tone control to the wheel.

@Cosmo__Kramer 5 месяцев назад

Sooo if there is different diods then it is different right?

@jessejorgensen3931 4 месяца назад

This was my first overdrive pedal. I've loved it and hated it. Just grabbed a tube screamer. I definitely love that. We'll for now. But there's been days where I'd play that pedal and think my god, this sounds so good. The next day, i want to throw it out my window. You're describing my sd1 pedal! The tube screamer has so much sustain and is like a warm blanket to me. I understand creamy now. I've been using it a boost! I wonder if i should pick up another. There's a chance some just don't come out right. Both sd1 one and od1 sound much better on a marshall, but still next to the 808, it feels inferior. Sometimes, i think the sustain i get from the screamer just isn't going to stop.

@voxpathfinder15r 10 месяцев назад

I have two modded SD-1’s. One that was modded by RST custom effects, the other by Pete’s Pedals. They both sound awesome, although the RST one has developed the bypass bleed issue. I tried what I believe to be Analog Man Mike’s fix, but it didn’t solve the issue

@JackFossett 10 месяцев назад

Im very pleasantly surprised with how good this sounds into the Vox, and not just because of the treble booster setting. It just compliments the amp well.

@voxpathfinder15r 10 месяцев назад

@@JackFossett I have always loved this pedal. I plug it into the clean channel of my solid state fender Princeton chorus amplifier and it sounds awesome!! Really gives it more of a tubey character

@toneblvd.310 10 месяцев назад

I like it but seems to get a little muddy at higher gain settings, the high end sound a little metallic tin like but it sounds great with a guitar that I have that the pups are weak and warm good combination but I feel if the guitar you use is very is trebly you have to really play wythe controls to find the sweet spot I use it at low gain settings

@JackFossett 9 месяцев назад

I really wouldn't use this at higher gain settings - in fact, I rarely use most overdrives on their higher gain settings.

@pbgoncalves4 12 дней назад

Hi jack, what do you prefere this SD- 1 or OD-3 ? Thanks!

@JackFossett 12 дней назад

Believe it or not I actually connected more with the SD1

@scottnoricsson2023 9 месяцев назад

I have 2 Sd-1 and I think it's a best soft clipping booster bar none . I have tried ts, dist plus, DoD 250 , did308, why crayon...and I am about to sell Al those

@anup_pinkfloydian 3 месяца назад

Hi Jack. how would the SD1 pair with a Vox ac10c1?

@richardjones2811 7 месяцев назад

Pedal was always good, now you know how to use it 😉

@JackFossett 7 месяцев назад

Not at all what I talked about

@rompofotters 8 месяцев назад

I use mine with an OR15 in high gain to add the chug, and tighten it up a bit. I prefer the blues driver for dirty tones, or shining up cleans.

@danstringer7610 10 месяцев назад

I had the privilege a few years ago to open for Grand Funk Railroad…I got to spend a few minutes with Bruce Kulick’s guitar tech and go over his rig. Besides his Marshall stacks which included the 900 and 2000 he had a Boss SD-1 …secret sauce?

@JackFossett 10 месяцев назад

Awesome! Did you get to meet them?

@bluemonday4369 10 месяцев назад

Tube Screamers. They seem to sound great when other people use them but I've never been able to get them to work for me. I guess they just dont work with my playing style and lord I've tried. Tried TS9s, 808s, and several clones. Even tried the Plumes, which is supposedly a tube screamer for people who don't like tube screamers. Give me an OCD, an ODR 1 style or a klon style and I'm good to go. By the way, you sound great using Screamers and those sort of drives.

@JackFossett 9 месяцев назад

I expected someone would mention a TS - they seem to be one of the ultimate love or hate pedals.

@perro_8688 9 месяцев назад

Mine cuts bass drastically and pushes mids in a weird way so the guitar sounds small, a toy like. I am thinking of getting something else.

@al271987 10 месяцев назад

I wonder if your older SD-1 that you didn’t like had been modded by a prior owner? Did you get it used? That did happen to me once when I bought a used OD-3. It wasn’t listed with mods but when I cracked it open some parts were definitely not original and some other parts were missing. Maybe that was your SD-1 issue. Or maybe if yours was an older one you had a worn out capacitor or something. I have enjoyed many examples of the SD-1 for many years, and I can say that the ones I’ve played have all sounded pretty consistent. For me it’s the best Tube Screamer a person can buy. That said, the TS9 is my bit of gear I don’t really click with, to me it just always sounded like a bad version of the SD-1! Lol!

@JackFossett 9 месяцев назад

It's very possible - the other one I had also had a green light. I've tried to research the various versions but haven't found much by way of tonal differences, except for vintage Japanese versus the modern Taiwanese. This one is a silver label. Either way, glad I gave it another shot.

@henriquecamboim 8 месяцев назад

People used to hate it because the Tubescreamer was the "cool kid on the block", now that things are getting expensive, people are looking for alternatives and started "loving" the SD-1. I, for one, have always preferred it.

@sanozfamily 7 месяцев назад

Tube Screamers haven't really done it for me... Blasphemy, I know! But I just haven't jived with one yet. Nobel's into a TS kinda sounds like the OD1. Seems like the OD1 has a lot more range than a TS.

@kennethc2466 7 месяцев назад

It's only real problem is the buffer. The buffer is a terrible impedance, and bleeds into the off position. It's a great sounding pedal when on, and a rig killer (depending on the amp's input sensitivity) when off.

@Lomoholga2 10 месяцев назад

BOSS got it right out of the gate 40 years ago People say it’s similar to a Tube Screamer- it may be the same family and have similar DNA, but it’s not an identical twin- more like a family member that shares a superficial resemblance but has a completely different personality I find Tube Screamers to be unusable with humbuckers- the amp sounds like it is covered by a thick wet blanket The SD-1 I find can do anything from early 50s cliche edge of breakup, generic overdrive, 70s glam hard rock to 80s hard rock So versatile. If you put it’s guts in a boutique build case and hyped it up people would pay over $200 for sure

@JackFossett 10 месяцев назад

I agree with that assessment very much - the original Od-1 was much more similar to the tube screamer. This one has very much it’s own sound, with only a minor resemblance

@jorgiewtf 6 месяцев назад

Dude, you could totally sell that intro song to Aerosmith. I can hear Steven Tyler all over it!

@Chasetenny 10 месяцев назад

I got a hotcake for my vox and people said it was the best pedal. I got it and it just didn't click for me. I find my angry charlie from JHS is far better.

@geraldboettcher8011 Месяц назад

Is it good for the blues?

@JackFossett Месяц назад

Yes

@JimMorrisonsBathtub 10 месяцев назад

Stratocasters are that gear that other people love and I do like the sound when they use them but they're not for me. For me I almost always use Gibsons but if I'm going to use something else, I'd always rather go with a Gretsch or a Telecaster. I've never been able to come up with a situation where a Stratocaster would be my top choice for something even though I think they sound pretty good.

@JackFossett 10 месяцев назад

Believe it or not I've heard that more than you'd expect. There are a fair number of players who can't connect with Stratocasters, many prefer the Tele.

@rollingstart_90s 13 дней назад

I've been playing guitar for 20 years and not untill recently, believe it or not, I bought my first ever overdrive, The Boss SD-1. I am using the pedal to push the high gain channel on my ENGL Ironball. While I love how it makes pinch harmonics even more efortless and sustains them, I absolutely hate how one dimensional it makes the overall tone. Low end drops away and something else happens too, but can not put my finger on it. Not only does it seem to make the overall sound a bit flat, it also has this artificial, metallic, NASAL tone that I'm not sure I like. I would've loved to keep my amps tone intact, but the boss sd-1 just makes the tone very boring and flat.

@ajsrhodes 10 месяцев назад

I was never a big fan of the BOSS SD-1. When I was a teen in the early 80’s playing in my bedroom through my blackface Fender Deluxe Reverb, I just didn’t like the sound of this pedal. Fast forward to a gig in the early 90’s, my pedal board, one of those all in one things, died before the gig started. A friend happened to have a SD-1 in his oh crap something died bag, and let me use it for the gig. I remembered how I wasn’t thrilled with one back in the 80’s, but it was all I had. My old Deluxe Reverb never sounded better! In the live context the SD-1 cut thru the mix, responded to rolling back my guitars volume… it was unbelievable. My friend complimented me on my sound and gave that pedal to me, which I still have 3+ years later.

@JackFossett 9 месяцев назад

Getting a great sound at a gig can just totally change your perspective on any piece of gear. I always find the contrast between gig tone and jamming/home tone very interesting.

@peterhall4852 8 месяцев назад

@@JackFossettIt's great for gigs. I use mine with a SG into a Princeton and it's great. It has the ability to be be horrible at home when used in my ss rig. No idea why.

@peterhall4852 8 месяцев назад

I forgot to mention. Slightly drive you amp and keep pedal gain low.

@dewey7330 Месяц назад

I hate the Boss blues driver. I am going to give it another try in the near future,but this is the last time,lol. This will be my first time trying it with a tube amp.

@JackFossett Месяц назад

With a Blues Driver, keep the drive and the tone backed off a bit. That helps it immensely.

@jaket11800 10 месяцев назад

Honestly, I’ve never liked fuzz pedals. I love the tones of Eric Johnson, Jimi Hendrix, David Gilmour, etc… but I’ve never played through a fuzz that had the same feel. To be fair I haven’t tried more than a handful of fuzz pedals so maybe there’s one out there I’ll like.

@JackFossett 9 месяцев назад

I had a similar experience with fuzz, although I grew to like them over time. The first time I plugged in a fuzz I thought it was the worst thing I had ever heard, but I stuck with experimenting since so many of the classic tones I loved came from them.

@pharmerdavid1432 10 месяцев назад

When you started to play it sounded wonderful, nice and clear, then you hit the Boss SD-1 and the sound was distorted, and lost its beauty to my ears. That's why I still plug straight into my old tube amps, it just sounds better to me, clean tones sound best and make me feel good, distorted tones actually make me feel bad. I listen to some of these virtuoso guitar players and it sounds like somebody is strangling a cat, and I love kitties! I love your playing Jack, but please - keep it clean? You have to please yourself, however, so you do what you want, just know I love your playing best when you keep it clean, even if using pedals. Considering all my guitars and amps, it really is a good thing I'm not into pedals - no room to move and too much clutter as it is!

@Les537 10 месяцев назад

I used to hate it, too, and still do.

@JackFossett 9 месяцев назад

So you're on the fence then?

@serranodavid3247 10 месяцев назад

Oohps....! Wrong pedal....!?

@JackFossett 9 месяцев назад

In fact Im planning a shootout between the two

@silviolutti1522 10 месяцев назад

Really horrible when used on the clean channel! It has really terrible low end cut! Many compare it to the Ibanez TS-9 but in my opinion there is no comparison at all. The TS-9 also sounds good on the clean channel and absolutely does not have as evident a bass cut as the Boss SD-1. For me this pedal only works on a distorted channel (who likes that). I don't even like it on the distorted channel. Greetings!

@Two_Seat_Pete_FatA55 10 месяцев назад

Translation: "I didn't used to like it, but more people recently have started talking it up again, so I've decided i like it now"