@inside_fighting First, I’d like to thank you for a thoughtful and respectful analysis of Kosho Ryu Kempo. There’s a lot in Kosho Ryu that is not clearly understood by people that have never experienced it, but you do a pretty good job of breaking down the pros and cons of what we do, as someone who’s never trained it first hand. I appreciate your eye for proper mechanics and principles. What and how I teach in my expression of Kosho Ryu, is exactly what you pointed out. To help people understand proper principles and concepts as they relate to developing skill sets to deal with combat. It’s meant to develop proper mechanics and body awareness skills, to help the practitioner see and develop deeper understanding of their art. I have no illusions about doing exactly what you see me teaching in the demonstrations, against a 20 year old full contact professional fighter. I even freely admit to people as a 50 year old man, I’m no match for a young MMA fighter who trains 3-4 hours a day to compete in that arena. However, that being said, the development of the skill sets through these principles absolutely apply to real fighting, it’s just a matter of working it in that arena. I have been in my share of street fights (more so in my youth than in recent history 😉) and worked security at music venues and clubs in my 20’s and 30’s. I clearly understand the stressors put on the body in that environment, and how some of the fine detailed movements all but become useless in those situations. But, like anything the more you train and drill these things the more likely it comes out when you need it. Thanks again for being respectful and highlighting Kosho Ryu. -Tony DiSarro (The bald guy in the videos 😉)
@@anthonydisarro17 appreciate you seeing it and not taking offense and the great input. I really enjoyed your movement and techniques on what i saw. Do you have a Silat background at all by the way? One day I’ll get to experience it first hand hopefully and do a video! If there is somewhere in Florida I’d love to shoot a video!
@@inside_fighting I’ve never formally trained in Silat, but am friends with many practitioners in the different Dethouras lineages. Definitely similarities in the mechanics. And no offense taken at all on your critique , I don’t have a fragile ego 😉. Where abouts in Florida are you? Are you close to Hutchinson Island/Fort Pierce?
@@inside_fighting my mother lives on Hutchinson island 6 months out of the year, and I go there to visit with my wife and daughter. Would love to meet you at some point and help give you more exposure and understanding of what Kosho Ryu is all about. Also some more insight into The history as well as info on my teacher. There’s a lot of misinformation and pontificating by people out there who don’t have their facts right on those subjects. 😏
Bruce Jetnic came up in a time when karate tournaments were really hard core with the likes of Chuck Norris , Steve Sanders , John Natividad , Joe Lewis etc no protective gear no padding just pure kimu'te . That being being said he was one of the first to take an interest in the Filipino marital art of eskrima studying Caballas Serrada Eskrima from Master Guru Dentoy Revillar then directly with GGM Angel Caballas in the early '70s . Professor Remy Presas came to the U.S. in the mid '70s and he went to meet with him with the intention to challenge him and instead became his student. Now Professor Remy was responsible for institutionalizing Arnis in the Philippines bringing the training to schools , University and the military . At about the same time he was introduced to Master James Mitose by a prison guard named Jorge Santana at the high security prison in f Folsom , Ca . And was allowed to train with him till his passing. Now most of those pioneers in that time are pretty broken up due to the time they put in and believe me Hanshi Bruce Jetnic put in his time from a hard-core Karate guy to a high level FMA practitioner to the inherentor of GGM James Mitose system with the blessings of the Mitose Family
I met Bruce J at a seminar, he’s a very unique character. The bald gentleman acting as the uke , taught my daughter escrima/filipino martial arts. He is a very good instructor and he was very good towards my daughter.
The way I’ve come to see it after 15+ years of training in Bjj/gjj, along with additional years on and off Vale tudo, judo, Muay Thai, Escrima, danzan ryu and ECQC is: learn your Core combat sports ie a form of Grappling as the base. A form of striking as second layer and then later something that is more conceptual that focuses on body mechanics and tactics. From there studying security camera footage, and recreating those scenarios with a few trusted training partners with the edition of sim weapons and multiple assailants as well as all the verbal components of personal protection and threat management. People who neglect learning the core martial arts(grappling+striking) who go straight to the “reality based,scenario training” have a steeper skill acquisition curve for “personal protection/IRL” ; Conversely, those who learn a core martial art and then learn the personal protection strategies acquire skills much quicker because they already have prerequisites such as how to manage distance, how to avoid grappling range, how to get up if on the ground,avoid being taken down,use head movement, clinch/unclinch, avoid grips,block-pary-slip ect ect. After those are learned it becomes possible to train things like isolating a weapon arm ect ect.
I agree with your comment except i would suggest learning something like Wing Chun or boxing first, then grappling. You don't want to go to the ground if you're anywhere but the gym!
I agree about not going to the ground outside of the gym if possible. but who is efficient at takedown defense, getting up off the ground, and avoiding clinching? Grapplers. You think someone who wrestled is going to get taken down and stay down outside the gym? Or some punk is going to be able to hold onto them? Unlikely. To me it’s irrelevant what style core combat sport you learn 1st or second…but as your base practices a grappling art and a striking art.
@@NoxBhairava as agreed they are both needed, grappling and striking. I suggested the striking first because it's fairly easy to deflect somebody from getting too close without getting destroyed. If the person fighting with you knows how to grapple, they would be less likely to be the one to initiate a fight so we're talking about untrained fighters trying to grab me and grapple.... with striking, I should be able to redirect their body and get away... There's an argument for learning each one but I think it's more important to deal with somebody trying to punch or grab me first. Learn how to parry and deflect and get out of there as quickly as possible. People are crazy AF these days and you never know if somebody has a knife on them or even a firearm of sorts.
And that is likely correct under the circumstances you’ve communicated. There are situations where that less likely. As long as they do the rest of the work go for it. I did all that in the worst order possible starting with a martial art I won’t mention that doesn’t spar, and that is maybe a cult 😂
@@NoxBhairava That is my favorite part of BJJ! Also my least favorite because you get some guys that go way to hard and will hurt you or don't know how to control their own energy and hurt you on accident lol
“He’s trying harder than a girl he just gave $100 bucks too!” 😂 great video classic format and didn’t miss again coach! Thank you again for inviting me to film the second series coach!
Shinkiokushin Champions class 1.5 hours 5+ till 12 years old: 45 minutes pad work and drilling combos with gears (sometime with helmet), 30 minutes stop Kumite (full gear including helmet) only to change the opponent, the rest strength training (mostly legs). The BJJ is constraints based training - no drilling at all.
No way! My dad holds a black belt in this style, and I trained in it for about a year before moving on to BJJ and Muay Thai, which I practice now(2stripe blue lol). He earned his black belt under Bruce and Pat Kelly, with Pat’s school focusing more on sparring and incorporating jiu-jitsu in the '90s. Whenever I spar lightly with my dad, I’m always impressed by how quickly he finds standing wrist or shoulder submissions, off-balances, or throws through head manipulation or posting. He also has some mad Filipino stick and knife skills that somehow became part of the system. He eventually left due to the excessive "master worship." I left my school for BJJ academy because they didn’t offer enough sparring, which seems common as many older instructors avoid sparring and focus more on choreographed techniques. Still, as you mentioned, some schools have incredible martial artists with decades of experience, strong filipino techniques, and a solid understanding of body mechanics/footwork. While it wouldn't be my first choice for self-defense, in the right context, it can be effective. Unfortunately, as the system declines and the "masters" age, it has leaned heavily into the theoretical stuff based off the drills without sparring, with unrealistic uke reactions. I showed my dad some recent videos, and he was shocked.
I became enamored with "martial arts" in the 70's. Totally fell for it. In second grade I bought a book at the school book fair by a guy named Bruce Tegner for four dollars. I'm still looking for that guy to get my money back! That's what I think of this guy, lol!
I ve trained in this system and your correct on some of the things , like mechanics and feeling it before saying it doesnt hurt. The systems relies on a lot of timing and distance
kajukenbo I've only seen on the internet, but I think it's a good style, it could be explored more with sparring partners, which is why it's underrated.
You miss out on a ton of great training. Most people in the modern era are fat. You are more likely to engage wit( a fat fighter. And you might assume a large person is just fat, but many are packing as much muscle underneath. Tank abbot wasn’t a bastion of physical fitness, but he was a professional fighter, experienced brawler. Body weight behind the strike is a real thing
As a competitor it is not optimal to be overweight. That's not always the best indicator or instruction. I knew my first instructor while he was at competition weight and he was a beast. He was also the best instructor I ever had. He had a heart attack due to a genetic condition in his early 30's. He had to lay of extreme physical activity and packed on some weight after he stopped competing. He became an even better instructor because he was able to dedicate extra time to research teaching methods, attend various instructor courses and get to know his students better. His school grew by leaps and bounds. Don Frye is is not in the same shape he was in years ago but anyone in their right mind would take instruction from him in a heart beat.
I've witnessed an obese karate master (5dan) moving lightning fast in short range counter attacks that didn't even seem like the Karate we are used to (you know, the usual long range exaggerated moves). My take away, don't underestimate anyone, don't assume he will be slow or weak
I may be biased cause I've trained wing chun and not FMA, but I see many similarities and principles of wing chun. Like sticking, traping, attacking from a point of contact as soon as contact is lost etc
" you'll see that real combat isn't set in stone, it's not technique number 1, movement number 2, what will you really do when the punch or kick comes? " bruce lee
Man I love your videos. You cover so many martial arts that really need some more spotlight on them and the way you do it with a neutral perspective, cover the pros and cons, very insightful. Could you do a video on luta livre? Keep it up! 💪🏻🤙🏻
I practiced Kosho for a few years and it was a legit style, we sparred at the end of every class went to one of Bruce’s camps it was fine. Conditioning could be pretty hard too. there are more than a few elite UFC fighters with high body fat though a lot of muscle underneath.
Very good analysis of the system. I've done Shaolin Kempo in the Netherlands and dutch style of Kickboxing and found out that when I apply the basic principles of Kempo to the Kickboxing in small gloves my success rate goes up. I think it will help somewhat in MMA as well.
I like your videos. The problem with most martial arts is that they are too fun. It's really enjoyable to do safe, interesting arm motions against another person which give you a feeling of "combativeness". Hubad drills, jun Fan /wing chun trapping, slick kenpo stuff... it's all fun -- super fun -- and there is, as you said, usually at least SOME element of combative "truth" to many of these maneuvers. And that's where we can fall into a trap. We want to make the fluff the cornerstone of training because it's easy, safe & enjoyable. But, reality is, the amount of things an average human being can actually pull off under the adrenal stress of a real fight is pretty limited and they are generally things which are not nearly as interesting to practice as the fun stuff. So martial artists tend to over-emphasize the fun drilling aspects of their art, often making it THE cornerstone of what they do.
I used to love reading about James Mitose and his system as a teenager. Especially all the deadly strikes and pressure points, plus how brutal it was. Then RU-vid came around and although it’s still cool to watch, I just can’t believe this was the deadly style I had read about. This sparring video is just point fighting that legends such as Alfie Lewis and Kevin ‘The Jedi’ Brewerton used to fight like in point tournaments around the U.K. back in the 80’s!! Fighting is messy! Find beauty in the mess!! As you have said, I’d rather see a practitioner moving in their styles way against an ALIVE opponent against modern attacks, than see people train one way and then fight totally differently. As for no touch KO, the principles of manipulating an opponent’s energy could be sound…..BUT I’ve yet to see it done. If anyone’s had REIKI treatments, you can certainly feel your energy being moved. BUT on a reality note for fighting, or coming back to reality, I think a lot of these deadly strikes could be applied once the fighter…….like Rose N, they have a base and knowledge/ experience of actual fighting and during the fight/ spar they see an opportunity to pull one out of the bag. But to go looking for it……I think one would have to be exceptionally skilled and personally I’ve not met anyone who can do it. That said, I do believe there are TMA practitioners that can actually use and fight in their TMA style. I’d love to pose a question…….how often do we hear about someone who happens to be a martial artist get robbed, mugged, stabbed, raped by another martial artist??!!! I’ve never seen a newspaper article saying man stabbed or attacked by a FMA practitioner! Women attacked and Thai kicked in thigh then silat thrown to floor before being assaulted!! All and every system / style should be demoing against realistic and modern assaults and attacks!! And then see if your style works or you can move and fight like the grandmaster 10 generations back or the founder of the system!! Martial artists are deceiving themselves and kind of living in the past, it’s not your kung fu master down the street you have to worry about or the judo gym next door. Street attacks are not found and taught in dojos, and they are the ultimate art/systems for evolving……if it works the criminals survive. If it fails they drop it like a hot potato and find another option. Simply put, the Navy Seals and Special Forces bring in specialist in every area….criminals for breaking into buildings etc etc. Martial Artists tend to fantasy’s about their art working for them and do t pressure test gainer modern assaults and attacks.
Kosho Shorei Ryu Kenpo Jujutsu is basically the Tai Chi of Jujutsu from Kyushu Japan so it confuses a lot. This type of drill is how u learn it is an extremely deep and advanced art. The similarity to Silat is because Kenpo is the same as Kuntao which means it has Chinese Chuan Fa influence. Most Japanese styles that had any of that it got taken out in the 1870's to get rid of Chinese influence in Jujutsu which used to be quite a bit. Kosho Ryu makes learning other arts fast and it changes your sensitivity so u can use it and drill it against anything. Most don't do combat sport or ring fighting or training as a requirement a lot of people do it for health, spirituality and the self defense aspect, learning the art is the priority, then you apply the mechanics to the Karate forms with more internal power and go through the Kodokan curriculum but with Kosho technique so some get into the ground stuff from that. It really is a very special art that open more of the Budo study there is so much most go with a focus on that. Western style punches, Muay Thai Kicks, Bjj, its all dangerous. Kenpo if u sticking out jabs, cross etc its about attacking the arm and then trying to jam them up before they turn into their next strike. Advanced stuff. If ur technique flow off u gonna get hit bad haha so yeah it take a long time. Kosho Ryu is like learning Kenpo,Karate,Judo and Aikido all at once although for self defense and modern fighting mix it with Fusen Ryu u be a baaaad man.
So I have a few insights on this having a black belt in Kosho Ryu as well as a purple belts in BJJ and 6+ years of MMA training The good: You gain a great understanding of body movement and manipulation. So much of the training is developed to moving your opponent around and determining their reactions. You train a great understanding of body mechanics You learn to put yourself in good positions for striking and grappling. Moving outside your opponent when the strike so they can’t hit you, obstructing their rotation so they can’t hit back, and putting them off balance These dudes hit HARD. I’ve uke’d for Juchnik in the past and getting hit by him is like being hit by a truck. He has a substantial amount of mass behind him yeah, but he also knows how to use it The bad Most Kosho school completely lack any sort of physical fitness element. High level Kosho guys tend to be pretty chonky There is little to no sparring so you never learn to apply anything against a resisting opponent James Mitose’s background is…suspect to say the least. The ugly The whole system has developed into a cult of personality around Juchnik. He’s a very skilled martial artist no doubt, and has trained is a walking encyclopedia of knowledge, but there is a tendency to diefy him which creeps me out to no end. At the end of the day it’s a decent style with plenty of flaws but also plenty to offer. I got a much better understanding of a lot of the concepts once I started doing more standup jiujitsu and sparring. It’s a great supplementary art that has some stuff to offer, but it has massive gaps in its methodology. PS; the second guy is named Tony Disarro. He’s a phenomenal martial artist and a hell of a nice guy. He also has a black belt in daito ryu aikijutsu and has substantial training in FMA and silat
Thanks for the great breakdown. Seems like we agree on most of the feedback but it’s nice to hear it from someone in the system. Tony left a comment and seems really great and open minded and even invited me to train with him so I’m excited for that.
You should check out hokuto-ryu jujutsu. It’s a finnish martial art that has full contact competitions with no protective gear, like kyokushin, no punches to the head, but they also allow judo like throws, joint locks and limited ground game. It’s been around since the seventies but hasn’t spread much outside Finland. Popular with law enforcement, bouncers and security people.
You have made some vaild points in your critique of this art, which (as you mentioned) can extend to the arts that came from this system, be it the various branches of American Kenpo Karate or the various forms of Kajukenbo. It's one thing to drill various principles of body dynamics in motion, in a controlled demo-instructional setting and this does serve one part of overall training. It can be another to gradually learn how to make those same principles work in a less controlled more chaotic environment, such as a violent street encounter. I am not including "or combative sports situation" in my previous statement, as in my experience and opinion, the only factors that are similar for the two situations, is that both can go from controlled to chaotic state very quickly; and in both you're dealing with a person(s) that trying to do "damage" to you while trying not to necessarily sustain "damage" themselves. After that the two types of situations are like day and night, and that mainly stems from the goal and subsequent mindset needed to accomplish that goal. By no means am I saying that combative sports can't aid someone in surviving a violent street encounter. But if one fights the way they train, and the training by it's very nature does not deal with variables that one has a good chance of encountering; being as successful outside of an environment as one is in the ideal environment for which the combative sport was designed to be used is at least a very flawed, and dangerous assumption to have. People in combative sports, understandably have a very streamlined way of focusing their training in the environment for which they are training and preparing to use it. So unless they have an instructor or coach that has the foresight to include in their, "here's how you adapt such skill outside of the ring, dealing with these variables (weapons, no ruleset, multiple people with weapons, etc)", they are going to still focus more if not entirely on the "ring" environment. Now, could a combative sports athlete still have a chance of faring better at surviving a violent street encounter due to being used to dealing with aggression, than a person with no training whatsoever? Most likely, however I would refrain from saying absolutely, as situations like Alex Fairtex tragically prove otherwise. For those that might not know Alex Fairtex (founder of Fairtex Gym, and combat gear) was a world champion muay thai, that wad shot and killed while trying to stop a car jacking after teaching a class. Simple fact is even if one is trained and skilled in combative sports, sometimes those factors are not enough to prevent tragic outcome, due to a lack of training with certain variables in mind. Even training with such "street variables" in mind, things can still go tragically wrong. And yet this alone should not make such training -self protection/survival based or combat sports based- a futile moot point, as such is meant to simply increase one's chances of surviving such situations. Overall, once again a good video with thoughtful commentary, and addressing that some people spend way too much time and effort on some types of training and not enough on others; and vice-versa. And this can go for those that only do nothing but sparring. If your training only consists of getting gear, and just going at it, with no type of instruction on concepts or principles, and thus fully devoid of any "theory"; then one is really no better off than those who spend all their time training principles in a controlled environment and never sparring or pressure testing what their training in to any degree. There has to be a balance.
Thank you for the great insights and completely agree with your thoughts on everything including the need for balance. I very much enjoy this kind of training but i also like hard fighting at times and really live reactive training.
Agree about people getting obsessed with details being useless - but principle based system is something completely different. Boxing is a principle based system (feet movement, guards, fitness etc). Indeed basic principles are what makes a useful martial art - not the techniques.
Kosho Ryu? Thats a blast from the past. I'm sure I had the James Mitose book "What is self-defense - kenpo jujitsu" back in the 1980's. Hawaii based, I think?
I trained in this system some 35 years ago for around 5 years. There’s a certain flavor that all kempo styles kind of have. The flying hands, chain strikes, power bellies. But the system had a lot going for it. A lot of body mechanics and understanding why things worked. I credit it a lot with helping learn other martial arts. A lot of guys back then did a lot of escrima. And you can see the influence with triangle stepping and use of angles. When I boxed I naturally had a kind of peekaboo style because of Kosho Ryu. Forward pressure, interrupting attacks, angling off when in close all become things that come naturally. It did not help me at all from the outside. But as a striking style companion to judo, it was pretty good. One other good thing I got from kosho ryu was a good set of initial reactions. Just having the right reactions when someone grabs you, pushes you or tries to sucker punch you. It’s one of the few things you don’t get out of combat sports.
A lot of people get the biomechanics the important for wrestling and throws but they don't focus on biomechanics as much for punching what do you mean by that is their the classical way to punch which is visualize hitting through the person and turn your foot turn your leg turn your torso so the very simplest form of kinetic Lincoln and that's what most people do that's good if you're a big guy but there are ways for smaller people to generate a lot of force in a punch that is not require you to be so strong
Enjoyed the watch. I was once interested in Kosho Ryu and tried to look into how mechanically what they do worked at least theoretically. My teacher offered me this explanation after he spent decades researching, training, and immersing himself in the finer mechanics and principles of the arts. He stated that some arts may have near unexplainable and extraordinary capabilities and mechanics however, many of them only exist under very controlled and specific circumstances with very little if any resistence.
My brother studied Kenpo in Hawaii while stationed there and they like to move at 45 degree angles. If I remember correctly Mitose was Hawaii as well. May not be as much a Silat background. Also Dan Inosanto also has a Kenpo background.
Hello! Thank you for this video. I was trying to hit him btw😊. I truly appreciate it. I am the guy in the black gi and orange shirt punching in at the end for Tony Di Sarro. I teach shaolin Kempo as practical self defense and we drill and spar and work to ensure what we do can be done against a resisting opponent who is fighting back. The application of Kosho in a sparring situation was a big question for me for years. I did not really get great answers at first but as I learned more and more and began to try to apply the principle and techniques in sparring, slowly over time I began to get things to work. My Kosho teacher told me often enough that “it works, but to get there you will probably get punched in the face a good many times”. He was right. When I felt I was truly starting to get it I made sure to spar with people who were not my students, because the teacher student relationship always gives an advantage… It actually worked even better because they had no experience in what I was doing. I am still a work in progress, still learning and still getting punched in the face 😉 but getting better and getting to see that Kosho is functional and practical for fighting…like almost any art, the secret sauce is how you train. One great thing about Kosho, shaolin kempo and other related kempo arts is that they flow easily into controls where you do not need to knock drunk uncle Bob out when he gets out of hand at the cook out. Cheers!
Yep right there with you when it comes to feelings on the whole "class student majority overweight and/or borderline obese thing it is a red flag and a problem that needs to be fixed
When an instructor has a big gut I really don’t want to be taught by them. Your supposed to be into the martial arts, please just keep yourself in shape🥋Train hard and stay in shape follow earthling’s 🐉 Peace ✌️
I feel same way but with a caviat. Like one of my senseis was a tall, wide looking construction worker and he looked fat but he wasnt. He was scary big and scary strong and knew what he was doing. My dad's the same, sometimes the gut isn't a gut but rather a wall of muscle from years working on a farm or lugging metal around.
It’s clear Ed Parker got none of this in his few years of training Under Chow, or if Chow even got it. I am always impressed with Kosho-ryu. It has a lot to offer. Great review here. Thank you,
I went to one of their seminar. You can get a couple of tricks. Most of it takes forever to master and be usable. This is a complementary system. If you want to be effective fast, it's not for you.
Ooh checking out Kenpo styles! This is good since Kenpo is a Japanese term to refer to Chinese kung fu and this is super cool, since I do believe each Kenpo styles have something to offer for fighters. Hope to see Shorinji Kenpo, aka Japanese interpretation of Shaolin Kung Fu. They do actual sparring and randou/sparring sessions.
Hi Ilan. If possible, can you make a video about your time training in the Inosanto Academy (any encounters with his noble students/celebrities, your experience and perspectives on Jun Fan/JKD and so on)? I heard great things about Dan (he has a kenpo background under Ed Parker); he deserves more recognition, too.
Met lots of different people and helped teach the bjj class. One time i was there upstairs doing fma and guro dan was watching the whole time quietly and i didn’t know and when i finished he said “you are very talented” and then went on a talk about that i train and he knew exactly my systems etc… he’s a special martial artist and it’s one of the best compliments ive gotten in martial arts considering the person
Another thing would say myself I love Kosho Ryu, James Mitose in Hawaii used the Kenpo Jujutsu as a basis to add Kenpo Karate to make "True Karate and Kenpo" in his design. Kosho Ryu as far as self defense to amp it up practice with a Yawara or Kubotan nasty work. The only other well known system like Kosho Ryu is Shorinji Kenpo which is also amazing, they do drill and spar more like what u would find in ring sports but with self defense scenario. Kosho Ryu really is like Tai Chi Jujutsu so u can stay with it and it helps with pain/tension/health a lot....but if u wanted to train for MMA being a Kosho person cross train in Kudo serious Kenpo systems in Kudo is the future.
beautiful style. i think that lack of sparing is a hole imln the system, just like not having bodymechanics theory and drills is a hole in more sportive systems. a well rounded warrior should do both.
Real attacks tend to be too fast and unpredictable to do anything this specific (and efficient). That's why boxers use non-specific, generic defensive movements. And they only have to worry about a limit range of attacks. Often, in an exchange, the best you can do is keep your chin out of the way and take a less damaging hit to land a more damaging one. The fact of "the exchange" phenomenon - for if you're close enough to hit them, they are you - changes the dynamics completely.
Well I actually know of two styles that are probably derived from this style. Fuh Shih Kempo and Taishindo Kenpo. There is a dojo of the second next to my house. It's pretty interesting and I'm probably going to stop by one of these days to take a closer look. They differentiate from Kenpo and Full Kenpo. I think because one is full Contact. If I find out more I'll come back and keep you informed.
So after i watched thid video, i reaearched the style and it brought this train of thought back to my mind. I really enjoy Adam Chan's perspective of applying martial lessons to everyday life and how your martial art can influence your brain. For instance, say you have a kid that is very yin in nature. Low self esteem, afraid of hi own shadow, won't look people in the eye. That sort of person. A combat sport like boxing with the right teacher can balance him out and fix those issues. However what are the issues of boxing in this context? Well, its a fire heart if you look at it in a chinese way. It can make you easily angry, arrogant, and un afraid of conflict. Perfect example is mike tyson before he took the toad venom. You dont want to be thst person all the time so if we go with my fire anology, you need a counter balance that kind of fire before you burn yourself. Lyte burly of 52 blocks for inztance will talk about how hist teacher made him learn bagua as a counterbalance cause bagua is a water art. Its all about going around problems and avoiding them. This channel is about self defense, what is the issue of self defense. It can make you paranoid, give you trauma and ptsd if you go too deep in it. But whats nice about this art us that the forms and meditation is part of the curriculum. Whixh is good because those principles help prevent what i listed above. But whats the issue with this type of martial art? Exactly what he just said. Too theorectical, not enough action. Your always trying to avoid, never engaging or going through a problem. Always making things more complex then they need to be. Anyways, sorry my english major is showing.
FYI. The writing system in Japan is syllable based, aka one character usually represents 2 or 3 in English. な - na に - ni ぬ - nu ね - ne の - no This are the syllables that end start with N. The writing system has vowels, too. Which would be used if you need an initial vowel before a syllable. E.g. あな would be ana. Of course we can make a list of Ma, Mi, Mu, Me, Mo ... but see below. So how to write a single consonant? Strictly speaking you can't. So they abuse the syllable with the u ending as single consonant. For example I have an Aikido teacher who's name is Fukakusa - the u in the middle is silent, he is pronounced Fukaksa. And now comes the point: there is one important exception. There is a syllable for N, for N alone and no vowel added. It is ん. So in their bright mind the Japanese said to themselves, hey: if we have to write a ぬ because we need a single N, we can just use ん, obviously. And then they went astray and thought, oh ... why not abuse ん for not writing a ふcharacter? So: the correct word is keMpo. Like in teMpura, or in hoMbu dojo. But for some reason no one knows, and only half ass explained above, the Japanese use the N character, which is ん, also as M. It is a relatively save assumption, if you stumble over the same word often and it is once written with an N in the middle and once with an M: the original word uses an M, which is just written as ん in Japanese, and the translator was not really fluent in Japanese, or used google translate.
So what style do you train and where are you. I’m currently 80 and have trained in various systems wit a black belt in AKKI Kenpo which has its limitations like all the others I have trained. However, being 80 I now have the limitations that come with age. I still work out 6 days a week but would like to get back into some form ot the arts that my old body could handle.
@@regprofant8609 great to hear you still training at 80 sir!!! That’s inspiring to hear. I have been doing Brazilian jiujitsu most of my life. I’m in Florida. I’m a black belt. Im a guro in Filipino martial arts and also train kyokushin 🙏🏼
Look up "Sparring with Kata" by Karate Culture on youtube, you're gonna love it. Its drills like this in a sparring context. Similar to what I do Okinawan Goju Ryu. There's very few videos on it.
I was involved in Kempo back in the 90s and early 2000s. I attended a seminar with Nick Cerio and Bruce Juchnik. Kosho is absolute hot garbage. Juchnik always performs all his demonstrations against extremely slow attacks. Everything I've ever seen from Kosho was pure dojo fantasy.
@inside_fighting I see that. People don't like it when their world view meets reality sometimes. One of my favorite sayings. "People will forgive you for being wrong. But they won't forgive you for being right, if you being right, proves them wrong."
Shorinji Kempo is the only kempo / kenpo school I believe has merit. These reactions to taps to set up follow up strikes do not understand how adrenaline completely changes the way men react. Under adrenaline I've seen men shot and even stabbed multiple times without realizing it nor without slowing down their assault. These kinds of martial artists really need to compete in Rugby, boxing, muay thai or mma to get some controlled experience with adrenaline.
That's remind me of my Silat master said to me. He said there's no useless martial arts in this planet only human being make it bad. Good or bad in this channel, it is good reminder for everyone. It is same thing about my BJJ coach, he learnt from other system called Shorinji Kempo. He said it can apply it on ground fight for self defense purpose. As I know about Shorinji Kempo is originated from Kyoto, Japan. Then dig into deeper history eventually it came from China 😂 damn give me break. That's kinda annoying me 😅 Ow speaking about this channel, I won't be surprise Kosho Ryu Kempo has Silat in it. According to my Silat master, eventually many years ago when Japanese samurai era there was a lot Japanese warriors or soldiers fleet away the country during the Sekigahara civil war in Japan. Those Japanese soldiers sailed to Thailand, Malaysia & Indonesia. And thats how they befriended & traded exchanged fighting methods with those Silat folks. Thats as far a I know. Sorry if my information is wrong.
For me the absolute worst ones are when they parry kicks with their hands. During some hard sparing I accidentally parried a kick with my hand and it almost broke my wrist. That wasn't even a full power kick. I think we were going something like 60-80%. No way that would work in a real fight. The only time you can parry a kick with your hand is when you're sparing super light, or sparing a child.
I will admit even though I wouldn't say I like a style that is over exhausting in it's training. If I see a lot of middle-aged overweight guys in a martial art, I start to see that as a red flag for it being ineffective. And, I pretty much am an overweight middle-aged guy, LOL. Great to see they R.A.I.D. second video is out. I've kind of been waiting on it. Even though I've only been training half of the stuff from it, LOL.
@@PhilDancer it has major similarities because these these theory based systems focus on these hyper complex continues motions against a non resisting opponent
Hey Ilam, ya man, 14:20 where you talk about hitting from the point of contact...that is truly a kempo concept...at least the kempo that I learned...ed parker lineage....concept is called "point of origin"....wherever there's a stoppage or obstruction by your opponent, you need to react from there....kind of ties into the self defence concept of "closest weapon, closest target" where you need to react from a particular point in space....great breakdowns as always man...looking forward to meeting you this month!
The same thing youre saying i say about aikido and tai chi. Ive never done aikido or tai chi but i believe if you have experience in some kind of martial art you can include it and make it work. People dont like wing chun. The problem isnt WC. The problem is they either dont know how to use it yet or its just not what theyll excel in
I don't think sparring and training needs to be a 100% match. However you should be able to see the flavor of the style in the sparring. Anyway there can be some value in this system but it is just not for me.
I think you are totally right with all of your criticism. By the way it looks like Bruce Juchniks Kosho Ryu Kempo is a development of a lot of his own findings or maybe he also mixed something into his system. But when you look at Thomas Barro Mitose, I think its the son of James Mitose, it looks very different. Not so soft more like Karate. In the wiki article its also not clear were James Mitose really got his teaching from. Its claimed that he might learned Karate from Choki Motobu. Kosho Ryu Kenpo isnt even the original name of his style. Before that he called it Kenpo Jiu Jitsu what is kind of a strange name. So Kosho Ryu seems to be no traditional MA anyhow.
I have a lot of respect for the martial art of kenpo as taught by the masters James Mitose , William K.S. Chow, Ed Parker and Larry Tatum. Sadly when great founders of Martial artist die there are often fights over succession of leadership of that system. That situation provides many con men the opportunity to scam the ignorant. Kenpo karate isn’t karate as the Japanese know it to be. It is however Chinese Wu Su greatly modified for street fighting. That is why kenpo practitioners could adapt many Kung fu techniques with ease. Japanese karate stances and movement are far different than kung fu while kenpo isn’t. To put it simply kenpo karate is what karate look like in Okinawa before Okinawans added grappling and jiujitsu techniques to karate. Over the last fifty years taekwondo kicking,western boxing and escrima/arnis were added to Ed Parker’s interpretation of Kenpo. Jeff Speakman a disciple of Ed Parker has added BJJ to his version of Kenpo. To me Kenpo has become hillbilly kung fu for its popularity among white people. Now kenpo is being rapidly replaced in the hearts of white would be Martial artists by BJJ and grappling. The sad truth of martial arts is that knowing martial arts won’t make you a great fighter but it will potentially give you an edge over those who don’t know how to fight. Most professional fighters have little chance of being champions simply because they lack the ability to throw combinations in the right sequence to be effective fighters. Most are too slow or too weak at their divisions to reach contender status, most are lacking in fighting skill. Toughness will only get you so far. Kenpo players are very into flashy hand technique. Kyokushin karate ka believe in explosive power solves every thing and it does. We also believe that power comes from superior technique and spirit.
I am not a martial artist but i do know systema was taught to people who already had a strong foundation in sambo and or non sport karate in the soviet union. I assume combat sambo was the and the intended base line to them bring in systema as an additional dimension.
Thomas mitose (james mitose's son) and his kosho ryu is different to juchnik's and imo much more practical and more like what you think u would get out of a kenpo karate style
You know bro if we going to do these long form videos then we need some predator or spiderman talk. I think most fight channels can benefit from this sort of content.
@@inside_fighting bro, thats so cool! Need to put that guy front and center. There is a lot of content there, like reviewing the predator fighting style.
Hello i have no idea where to put my question so I took a recent video hoping you check the comment. Im not a fighter at all been using thw simple trick wich is descalating a potentiel fight or leave before it happen but if i have no choice at all to defend myself with no training what should i do to keep me a bit safe beceause i knw there is no perfect system. Do you have any video on that ? ty
As a BJJ guy I don’t fully trust your ability to differentiate the bullshido. However, you seem competent enough with street level encounters. Subscribed…
If someone want learn Fight for real and be a Elite Striker train Muay Thai, Boxing or Kickboxing these styles are the more effetive in planet I don't understand people that train styles that doesn't spar.
You noticed all these black belt experts have huge belly s. Now I seen a 15yr old do the 1 2 and bounce out of range quickly the other day with 2yrs of training he would do most of these guys so..............think we need to focus on what is top 5 or what's the point....
Good day sir. So many analysis on fighting and other styles . How many tournaments in different combat sports have you won ? International competitions, gold medals ? Did you served in a special forces unit ?