I was introduced to a false God and a true God|Most Sangomas produced by this church| Pakisi Machaba 

My late friend was chased from that church they told her that her ancestors are too big,she must never come to this church

Podcasts should be reserved for content creation not spiritual matters and consciousness. Darkness and Light are one, only separated by degrees. The problem is that those who wish to be served by magic often become its servant. And the mind is above time and space, if you decide not to complain it will immediately compensate you with intuition.

All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. 1 Corinthians 6:12 KJV

She's amazing

I love that woman and I learnt a lot from her.

@@morongwabapela6524 so many things make sense after listening to her. She is truly a blessing

They should def bring her yaz

These people are mischaracterising the ancestor issue out of ignorance. Ancestors are in the spiritual realm and we honor them not worship them, that should be clarified. Is'thunywa is referred to as Angel in translation because the English vocabulary doesn't accommodate what Is'thunywa is so it's loosely used. Is'thunywa will appear in the form of a human because the human understanding of the spiritual world is limited, So when Is'thunywa wants to communicate with you it will usually use the form of someone who is familiar to you like a dead parent or something like that because it knows that anything else would not be acknowledged by you. And this is only in reference to the spiritually immature person because those who operate at a higher level spiritually don't need to be babied coz they are comfortable and confident enough to distinguish between idlozi and Is'thunywa.

But Satan has never done anything wrong out here 😢 How did he become the Villain? Because according to the Bible only God is busy killing people..... The Bible is a book where Bible God is the only one killing and all suffering is at the hands of God. The Devil didn't kill anyone, only God did. Tell me 1 incident where the so called devil kills people or does them wrong 1)God tells Abraham to go kill his son as a sacrifice. 2) God kills over a 100 000 innocent children in Egypt to free the Israeli, and let Pharoah live. 3) God kills Job's entire family and gives him leprosy in order to win a bet against Satan that Job wouldn't turn his back on him. 4) God Bombs Sodom and gomora for debauchery & saves lot because he was pure. But Lot has sex with his daughter and blames it on the wine and God remained silent. 5)God sends a bear to maul 42 children after a prophet cursed them for laughing at his haircut. 6)......... Noah's story I can go on for days with story after story of God and his killing spree. The devil offered Jesus bread while he was in the wilderness.

Exactly

@@MasegoPitso he bored me to the core and the twins also they don't know anything abt spirituality I think they should learn more n find out bfr interviewing people

@@annaseemole1374 I understand. I’m also a zcc member and I’m really not invalidating his experience but you can’t just listen to a prophet without praying for prophecies. You need to pray for everything you are told

@@MasegoPitso love I was a zcc member my experience there was eye opening they taught me the power of prayer and im forever grateful for the time being there🙏

Please fast and pray sis, and ask God to reveal the truth to you❤️🙏🏽

14:21 Ancestors making people answer their calling is the same as God attacking Jonah for running away from his calling. The other one Paul went blind for running away too. God sent snakes to bite the Israeli for worshipping the wrong God. So when ancestors do it they are wrong?

The Bible is a book where Bible God is the only one killing and all suffering is at the hands of God. The Devil didn't kill anyone, only God did. Tell me 1 incident where the so called devil kills people or does them wrong 1)God tells Abraham to go kill his son as a sacrifice. 2) God kills over a 100 000 innocent children in Egypt to free the Israeli, and let Pharoah live. 3) God kills Job's entire family and gives him leprosy in order to win a bet against Satan that Job wouldn't turn his back on him. 4) God Bombs Sodom and gomora for debauchery & saves lot because he was pure. But Lot has sex with his daughter and blames it on the wine and God remained silent. 5)God sends a bear to maul 42 children after a prophet cursed them for laughing at his haircut. 6)......... Noah's story I can go on for days with story after story of God and his killing spree. The devil offered Jesus bread while he was in the wilderness.

These people are mischaracterising the ancestor issue out of ignorance. Ancestors are in the spiritual realm and we honor them not worship them, that should be clarified. Is'thunywa is referred to as Angel in translation because the English vocabulary doesn't accommodate what Is'thunywa is so it's loosely used. Is'thunywa will appear in the form of a human because the human understanding of the spiritual world is limited, So when Is'thunywa wants to communicate with you it will usually use the form of someone who is familiar to you like a dead parent or something like that because it knows that anything else would not be acknowledged by you. And this is only in reference to the spiritually immature person because those who operate at a higher level spiritually don't need to be babied coz they are comfortable and confident enough to distinguish between idlozi and Is'thunywa.

Where can I get previous episode

Good loves you dear❤

These guys know nothing, they speak out of ignorance, we don't worship ancestors, we honour them. We ask for their advice on spiritual matters because they live in the spiritual realm. A Sangoma can be good or bad, it's the law of nature, Just as there are good and bad people. But to confuse All Sangomas as Abathakathi is disrespectful at the very least. I'm sorry to say but Christians love to look down on folks for believing anything other than Jesus. Their Bible's full of death and suffering caused by God and the so called devil didn't kill nobody.

The Bible is a book where Bible God is the only one killing and all suffering is at the hands of God. The Devil didn't kill anyone, only God did. Tell me 1 incident where the so called devil kills people or does them wrong 1)God tells Abraham to go kill his son as a sacrifice. 2) God kills over a 100 000 innocent children in Egypt to free the Israeli, and let Pharoah live. 3) God kills Job's entire family and gives him leprosy in order to win a bet against Satan that Job wouldn't turn his back on him. 4) God Bombs Sodom and gomora for debauchery & saves lot because he was pure. But Lot has sex with his daughter and blames it on the wine and God remained silent. 5)God sends a bear to maul 42 children after a prophet cursed them for laughing at his haircut. 6)......... Noah's story I can go on for days with story after story of God and his killing spree. The devil offered Jesus bread while he was in the wilderness.

14:21 Ancestors making people answer their calling is the same as God attacking Jonah for running away from his calling. The other one Paul went blind for running away too. God sent snakes to bite the Israeli for worshipping the wrong God. So when ancestors do it they are wrong?

Isazela sikhona sona

​@@after-lifeadvice7067 misinterpret those scriptures God forbids us to consult the dead

14:21 Ancestors making people answer their calling is the same as God attacking Jonah for running away from his calling. The other one Paul went blind for running away too. God sent snakes to bite the Israeli for worshipping the wrong God. So when ancestors do it they are wrong?

These people are mischaracterising the ancestor issue out of ignorance. Ancestors are in the spiritual realm and we honor them not worship them, that should be clarified. Is'thunywa is referred to as Angel in translation because the English vocabulary doesn't accommodate what Is'thunywa is so it's loosely used. Is'thunywa will appear in the form of a human because the human understanding of the spiritual world is limited, So when Is'thunywa wants to communicate with you it will usually use the form of someone who is familiar to you like a dead parent or something like that because it knows that anything else would not be acknowledged by you. And this is only in reference to the spiritually immature person because those who operate at a higher level spiritually don't need to be babied coz they are comfortable and confident enough to distinguish between idlozi and Is'thunywa.

​@@after-lifeadvice7067Are you trying to put God on the same level as ancestors? Wow

His contacts please 🙏🏻

Contacts of my friend?@@hildakgodu5796

Amen 🙏

Amen

Well I can tell you definitively that the Bible's biggest murderer who also brings the most suffering to mankind is Bible's God

The Bible is a book where Bible God is the only one killing and all suffering is at the hands of God. The Devil didn't kill anyone, only God did. Tell me 1 incident where the so called devil kills people or does them wrong 1)God tells Abraham to go kill his son as a sacrifice. 2) God kills over a 100 000 innocent children in Egypt to free the Israeli, and let Pharoah live. 3) God kills Job's entire family and gives him leprosy in order to win a bet against Satan that Job wouldn't turn his back on him. 4) God Bombs Sodom and gomora for debauchery & saves lot because he was pure. But Lot has sex with his daughter and blames it on the wine and God remained silent. 5)God sends a bear to maul 42 children after a prophet cursed them for laughing at his haircut. 6)......... Noah's story I can go on for days with story after story of God and his killing spree. The devil offered Jesus bread while he was in the wilderness.

If your Bible's the ultimate truth then how about we discuss what is in it. A gentile woman seeking healing from Jesus for her daughter approached Jesus. He said that healing her daughter was like taking food from his children's plate and feeding a dog. How else does one need clarification....

14:21 Ancestors making people answer their calling is the same as God attacking Jonah for running away from his calling. The other one Paul went blind for running away too. God sent snakes to bite the Israeli for worshipping the wrong God. So when ancestors do it they are wrong?

Jesus didn't even want to die, If he did he wouldn't have went to pray after the last supper to ask God to not let them kill him. God ignored him, Jesus even cried when he was on the cross asking "Eli Eli Lama Sabachtani....." If ancestors weren't important then why would the new testament begin with the Ancestral lineage of Jesus Christ 🤷🏽‍♂️ Why would Christians gather every Sunday to share stories about Jewish Ancestors and then frown upon their own ancestors? The irony is very sad, you think that your own mother who loves you so dearly would become the devil because she just died?? And then expect a Jewish ancestor to drop everything and come to your rescue 👀 You can't be serious, because you are deluded at best Jesus wasn't even a Christian himself he was born and practiced Judaism & all those stories involving temples like the beating up hustlers in the temple and arguing with the preachers those were in a Jewish temple.

Find your bible fast fast and thank you for watching

Ur a liar who said they don't come back ZCC is not a cult

Yes ZCc is not a cults

​@@user-ib4tc6vx3noh sorry to burst your bubble, it's a cult. I grew up going there. I'm begging you, accept Jesus. Hell is not a joke guys

Is he open to consulting a traditional healer?

Your dad can overcome any confusion through the blood of Jesus Christ-Revelation 12:11 Soak his spirit, soul and body in the blood of Jesus Christ.

Katlego let's pray for your dad. The Almighty God is ALMIGHTY.

@@utloangbenton4832 he is paranoid about everything. He thinks everyone is against him nje. It's hard

@@mapularamodipa5629 thank you ❤️

You listed the World's Most obvious false prophets, that you assume ALL Christians follow 😂🥲

The Bible says in Matthew 13:30 "Let them grow together until the harvest.". The harvest will tell the wheat from the weed. Everyone must go to the church they want to or believe in whatever they want to, re tla di bona motlhang wa kotulo.

That's your churches you bazakwane.charmatic churches.iam an African.

Amen

Well spoken 👏 Amen🙏

14:21 Ancestors making people answer their calling is the same as God attacking Jonah for running away from his calling. The other one Paul went blind for running away too. God sent snakes to bite the Israeli for worshipping the wrong God. So when ancestors do it they are wrong? If you can't see the hypocrisy in this then there's no hope for anyone to seek the truth.

The new testament begins with the Ancestral lineage of Jesus, If ancestors were not important enough then why is it that they come first before even speaking about Jesus. Christians go to church to study and honor people in the Bible who are literally ancestors themselves 🤷🏽‍♂️ So obviously only your ancestors don't deserve to be honored??

@@after-lifeadvice7067 I think you following the wrong content.Not judging you

I don't understand where some of your points are coming from because I don't remember myself saying anything about not honouring ancestors @After-Life Advice. I am not against ancestors I just choose to believe in the true living God. As for you, You seem to honour your ancestors more or the same way you honour God. I have nothing against your belief but just to clarify it to you I personally, honour God more than them because He is greater.

I stated in my comment that I have always wanted to find out about the twin's view on ancestors. So whether ancestors are supposed to punish people the same way God did, that's the least of my concern. I honestly don't see the point of everything you have said. @After-Life Advice

They do tell you , I know of someone whom the prophets in that church told the same thing. The person had to leave the church because they don’t want practicing Sangomas.

We are advised not to follow foolishly, just because it is a church it does not mean it is good. The guy seem to believe things very easily, he does not question things. He got to be under the absence of light (evil) because of his character. I used to be a Christian and backslided simple because of too many doctrine within and pure evil within, I tried a few but my spirit was not at eas. I was not connecting to God the way I am suppose to. I hated the bondage of fear the religion comes with and it's too systematic.

I think its his experience and we dont have to believe it. However, a close friend of mine was at that church and she was prophesied to leave church and answer an ancestral calling so she ran to a bazalwane church and it was worse it was a cult thye wanted to abuse her God given gift. Fortunately she married and went to her husbands church but she def was told by church elders to be a sangoma.

Just ask Jesus to come into your heart and reveal Himself….He will do just that

You hate the truth

Lack of knowledge is dangerous...most churches are using mermaid spirits even to prophecy...not Holy spirit

If your Bible's the ultimate truth then how about we discuss what is in it. A gentile woman seeking healing from Jesus for her daughter approached Jesus. He said that healing her daughter was like taking food from his children's plate and feeding a dog. How else does one need clarification....

The Bible is a book where Bible God is the only one killing and all suffering is at the hands of God. The Devil didn't kill anyone, only God did. Tell me 1 incident where the so called devil kills people or does them wrong 1)God tells Abraham to go kill his son as a sacrifice. 2) God kills over a 100 000 innocent children in Egypt to free the Israeli, and let Pharoah live. 3) God kills Job's entire family and gives him leprosy in order to win a bet against Satan that Job wouldn't turn his back on him. 4) God Bombs Sodom and gomora for debauchery & saves lot because he was pure. But Lot has sex with his daughter and blames it on the wine and God remained silent. 5)God sends a bear to maul 42 children after a prophet cursed them for laughing at his haircut. 6)......... Noah's story I can go on for days with story after story of God and his killing spree. The devil offered Jesus bread while he was in the wilderness.

These people are mischaracterising the ancestor issue out of ignorance. Ancestors are in the spiritual realm and we honor them not worship them, that should be clarified. Is'thunywa is referred to as Angel in translation because the English vocabulary doesn't accommodate what Is'thunywa is so it's loosely used. Is'thunywa will appear in the form of a human because the human understanding of the spiritual world is limited, So when Is'thunywa wants to communicate with you it will usually use the form of someone who is familiar to you like a dead parent or something like that because it knows that anything else would not be acknowledged by you. And this is only in reference to the spiritually immature person because those who operate at a higher level spiritually don't need to be babied coz they are comfortable and confident enough to distinguish between idlozi and Is'thunywa.

@@after-lifeadvice7067 please give chapter and verse then we can discuss it.

I would greet you in the name of the lord and saviour but I actually read the bible and realised that The Bible is a book where Bible God is the only one killing and all suffering is at the hands of God. The Devil didn't kill anyone, only God did. Tell me 1 incident where the so called devil kills people or does them wrong 1)God tells Abraham to go kill his son as a sacrifice. 2) God kills over a 100 000 innocent children in Egypt to free the Israeli, and let Pharoah live. 3) God kills Job's entire family and gives him leprosy in order to win a bet against Satan that Job wouldn't turn his back on him. 4) God Bombs Sodom and gomora for debauchery & saves lot because he was pure. But Lot has sex with his daughter and blames it on the wine and God remained silent. 5)God sends a bear to maul 42 children after a prophet cursed them for laughing at his haircut. 6)......... Noah's story I can go on for days with story after story of God and his killing spree. The devil offered Jesus bread while he was in the wilderness.

Jesus didn't even want to die, If he did he wouldn't have went to pray after the last supper to ask God to not let them kill him. God ignored him, Jesus even cried when he was on the cross asking "Eli Eli Lama Sabachtani....." If ancestors weren't important then why would the new testament begin with the Ancestral lineage of Jesus Christ 🤷🏽‍♂️ Why would Christians gather every Sunday to share stories about Jewish Ancestors and then frown upon their own ancestors? The irony is very sad, you think that your own mother who loves you so dearly would become the devil because she just died?? And then expect a Jewish ancestor to drop everything and come to your rescue 👀 You can't be serious, because you are deluded at best Jesus wasn't even a Christian himself he was born and practiced Judaism & all those stories involving temples like the beating up hustlers in the temple and arguing with the preachers those were in a Jewish temple.

@ntswakitshabalala4088 I wish she had English subtitles in her channel

@Mabusi Majola it would help a lot. I think we should send her a WhatsApp message asking her if that's possible.

@@ntswakitshabalala4088 that would be great ❤️

14:21 Ancestors making people answer their calling is the same as God attacking Jonah for running away from his calling. The other one Paul went blind for running away too. God sent snakes to bite the Israeli for worshipping the wrong God. So when ancestors do it they are wrong?

If your Bible's the ultimate truth then how about we discuss what is in it. A gentile woman seeking healing from Jesus for her daughter approached Jesus. He said that healing her daughter was like taking food from his children's plate and feeding a dog. How else does one need clarification....

He said ZCC

ZCC

ZCC 😢

Seek Jesus Christ and don't thwasa it is satanic and they will make your life a living hell. Repent And get baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.

What is the name of his channel

Here Dr.- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_v6BfJvWIK4.html

Heal

Good

They can't tell you thruth because they don't know it...bt they claim they know the truth.they will say true god is from bible.if you read bible as a book..you will find the truth that the god of jesus's kingdom...is not the loving..n knwing as the claim..you will find a lot of fault.but if you read it as a holy bible you will get manipulated not see the truth. For example..god got put Adam and Even in a garden where they ate an apple.were people they blame satan's for manipulate those people.if he was knowing god he was supposed put them in place where he knw they won't be tempted.Remember Adam and Eve there were two in a world..so he has a lot of options to take.And a another thing if you read the whole story of a moses from Egypt to Canan...he instructed the people of Israel to sacrifice their male first born...and it was intruction from god of Israel.There a lot of Chapter n verses were you will wonder if this a god of heaven and earth or specific for Israel people. Read Bible as a book not as holy Bible...you will find a lot of fault in it actually the thruth.

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These are the sort of arguments y'all love to use when people expose the Dark Side of African Spirituality. ALL Sangomas operate under the same EVIL Spirit...

Tell them my dear.they are lost.they call their ancestors Demons.shame on you bazalwane.when your parents are dead they are now called demons.wow😅but you carry their Surname.carry Jesus s Surname leave your ancestors s Surname . if acknowledging them you think is dirty or evil.use Jesus s Surname bazalwane and leave yor grandmother's or grandfather's Surname.African people who are lost

Yes please interview her. But it will probably have to be virtual because she is not in the country. But she has a POWERFUL testimony. She also has a RU-vid channel... From darkness to light

@@Demawi650 Hi Dee..it is very true

They can't tell you thruth because they don't know it...bt they claim they know the truth.they will say true god is from bible.if you read bible as a book..you will find the truth that the god of jesus's kingdom...is not the loving..n knwing as the claim..you will find a lot of fault.but if you read it as a holy bible you will get manipulated not see the truth. For example..god got put Adam and Even in a garden where they ate an apple.were people they blame satan's for manipulate those people.if he was knowing god he was supposed put them in place where he knw they won't be tempted.Remember Adam and Eve there were two in a world..so he has a lot of options to take.And a another thing if you read the whole story of a moses from Egypt to Canan...he instructed the people of Israel to sacrifice their male first born...and it was intruction from god of Israel.There a lot of Chapter n verses were you will wonder if this a god of heaven and earth or specific for Israel people. Read Bible as a book not as holy Bible...you will find a lot of fault in it actually the thruth.

I'm also waiting to hear this.

Pray read the word of God then you'll know cause God said those who are mine knows my voice

If you saw part 1 youll hear him explain