I Was Right All Along... 

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At this point I’m convinced Muta doesn’t even actually have a pc, he’s just running a VM on a Samsung smart fridge

"Anticheat is a security measure" *hackers exploit anticheat to compromise entire system* Companies: *surprised Pikachu face

Muta saying he's too paranoid and here i am realizing that his work REQUIRES HIM to be paranoid otherwise he wouldn't be able to thrive in his line of business. so the lesson here is to be paranoid.

Worst of all is: Whoever wants to cheat their gacha pulls can just play a self-hosted instance and be happy about it, since it's mostly single-player and whatnot. They could use any less intrusive anti-cheat if it's just to put their minds at ease.

I love when gamers say "You're too paranoid" when defending corporations. That's how we got here with garbage DRM, microtransactions, etc. People mocked paying $2.50 for horse armor in Oblivion years ago. Now? People are happy to pay $10-20 for a skin in a FPS where you can't even see yourself. Companies hiring people who know how to manipulate addictive tendencies and instead of blaming the corporation for all that they blame people with gambling problems Denuvo is now muscling it's way onto Switch apparently because "Oh it's not that bad" was said for years when it was just on PC. The DRM that eats up a chunk of your PCs performance- that companies denied and it's been consistently shown that when removed performance goes up by a measurable amount. And now it might be put on some games on the Switch- as if it didn't struggle with some games enough Companies keep lying to us and people keep defending them or saying it's not so bad because, for some reason, they'll listen to a corporation who's sole goal is money instead of people who have seen this happen before or actually know what they're doing. And here we go "it's for security" ...yeah, THEIR security, not yours.

I wouldn't say virtualization is foolproof. There's been plenty of times where malicious code broke out of containers before including with KVM.

I downloaded Valorant and the anti-cheat was always active even when the game wasn't running. I felt like I was being compromised, so I erased it.

Lol, my mind read the title as Muta being wrong. So I clicked faster than my brain processing the actual title. Staying because.. well.. it's Muta. I don't even care about half the things he talks about. His rants just fill a very specific void in my life.

I always appreciate someone who provides their informed and honest takeaway. Can tell you're not deceptive and don't go outside your depth of knowledge. it's why I enjoy your commentary.

This a good topic. I am an avid Genshin Impact player, but I'm also very careful with everything that I execute on my computer. Almost all software I install come from Steam, Microsoft or Adobe.

If people only knew that the driver from their razer mouse could potentially be more of a threat than anything else.

*Looks for a video to listen to, while running the Genshin dailies* The video:

this dude is really tech savy i dont understand half the things he says but it sounds important

i find it interesting that these games all have these kernel level anti cheats that run completely separate from the game checking that nothing is modifying any parts of the game or packets or whatever mean while servers in minecraft like minemen club run with completely server side anti cheats that are so good at picking up anything from mild movement modifications to slight inconsistencies in clicks meaning it is extremely difficult to bypass while no ac is actually present on your computer

Love how you specify stuff it really helps me figure out stuff when watching your videos more

I just started on my cyber security classes and it’s cool to be able to understand what muta is talking about

Well that was very informative, and a wee bit scary. I will definitely check thrice. Thank you for your hard work, Muta.

once again im happy i love single player / offline games

Man I just love watching your videos on random topics, from tech to games to etc

To be honest it's inevitable that something like this would happen having anything run as root creates a massive attack surface, it's inevitable that someone finds a bug in the anti cheat to exploit.

Welp, looks like Bronya would have to work OVERTIME now to fix this. Fucking hackers...

It's always a good time when I catch Mutahar early.

If only youtube comments section were “anti bot”. I’m tired of the spam comments

If i understood correctly. If a driver is signed, windows will give kernel level permission WITHOUT PROMPTING THE USER. Is there a reason for this to be the way it is? I dont think its ok to give permission to something even if it is signed and not malicious if the user doesnt want to, after all it is the user's computer so the user sould hace the choice.

Can you talk about the drama going on in the warzone scene about how ACTIVISION seems to be ALLOWING CERTAIN PEOPLE (streamers) TO CHEAT intentionally.

Kernel level anti-cheat is crap. It's universally bad.

*pinches nose* But Muta, the level of paranoia and distrust I've developed since watching your videos has increased tenfold. And I'm now both generally more secure and happier for it. Thanks!

Muta got some bounce to that one section of hair. Be the bounce hair, out there for the world & riding the waves.

Speak the truth Brother! So tired of people downplaying kernel level access.

I always love when you talk about linux. I started using manjaro when you made your QEMU video, it was the best thing that happened to me since forever, thanks bro

Modern OSes need a configurable sentinel. Something that can (fairly) easily setup event listeners and take action based on event log history. As soon as the history diverges, alert user and/or end process

Catching sog early is always a great treat!

I'm ok with anti-cheat...what I'm not ok with is lazy as fuck corporations who release marketing anticheats that are built by some entry level tech as their graduate product rather than made by professionals. Most of the anti cheat systems used by big companies are DOGSHIT I'd rather deal with actual hackers than have a system that cripples my frames to sub 30 frames or boots me from a game because I use fucking logitech hardware. These technologies are either antiqued and havent seen a real update in decades or are programmed by fucking 5 year olds, either way they suck hard and I've abandoned more than 1 game because of how their decided anti cheat actively ruined said game.

There's also a thing that happened with VRchat where within seconds after EAC was added hackers already bypassed the anti-cheat, and are yet again using noclip and crashing users.

Well looks like my morning will be writing up a threat assessment on this. Thank you for spreading awareness.

Warzone has one of the worst anti cheats. Hey Muta could you do a video on how Blizzard Activision doesn't ban blatantly cheating "Pro" warzone streamers. I would love to see your insight into these streamers who play tournaments and win big amounts of money while the anti cheat avoids them completely. These people are shady individuals who makes millions. Just a cool video Ideal I'm sure everyone would be interested in. I do a little cheater hunting in Warzone and hate the fact these people exploit such an easily exploited community such as COD. You talked about how shady some of these world records are before on the podcast, but I'd love to hear about how exactly Activision is whitelisting said players.

muta’s hair, muta’s beautiful unkempt hair is the hair of a man that is clean-out of fucks to give, and I love it

I found your channel from that first valorant video a couple years ago. Cheers!

I love the sneaky little reference to the Twitter drama he went through earlier though

10:50 quick question about that: how do you check your event log specifically for that anticheat? Do I go the Win + R route, and if so what should I check for, or do I have to use something else?

I will never get sick of the ".. but Muta..." moments

Didnt know this thanks for bringing me up to speed !

Muta going full Bill Murray in "Kingpin" with the hair vibes today

The only thing I worry about hearing this is if running any game that uses easy anticheat is better off not on my PC and if I should Uninstall. I think the only thing I have is MultiVersus but it makes me feel like I should just leave it strictly to my Playstation for that and not PC. Feels extra to worry about that but at the same time if it's root really goes back to them fixing their system to not let this happen I'm a bit afraid of it in general until they do so. I get that they can only do so much it's the bad people who cause this and make these scenarios happen but the whole kernel thing is terrifying I use windows 11 and it's protections to check my system so far so good but YIKES computers are scary. Lol

Anti cheats are a false sense of security. Anti cheats will always have something that dipasses them, unless the company that is making the anti cheats also makes hacked clients and cheating software, and know exactly what they are up against.

Thanks ,Muta great information, always good

Thanks for the heads up on this happening.

I knew you were right all along, and this is exactly why you should run VMs for games like Genshin to keep yourself protected.

In honkai impact 3rd terminology, Be careful, herrscher of corruption is on the loose

I guess this is part of the reason for those legal disclaimers common with most software: that they aren't responsible for any damage to your system or hardware (except when forced to take responsibility by law).

Muta can you make a setup tour of your system or could you give up tips on how we can secure our system on budget level as well ?

Mutahar rockin that gamer hair like a true chad

I do not understand most of the big words, I just like Muta's voice

Hi muta! Keep up the amazing work

It took me way longer than I'm willing to admit that I didn't understand the "dislike it if you dislike it" line Muta says at the end of the video, until now lol.

Just fyi. This bug is due to a bad launch anticheat. The new file which is fine since 1.1v or newer. You have to use that specific file so hashing it and blocking the hash is a possibility. Mohi-hoyoverse did fix it but the problem is Microsoft still hasn't revoked the certificate

I really wanna try Riot's upcoming fighting game but if it has kernel anti-cheat as well I'm not trying that shit

Even though i have 0 clue about whatever you talk about, i love when you upload

0:07 orb around muta. looks like hes not alone.

When is the someordinarygamers and oompaville moby huge trebuchet collab happening

I don't mind anti-cheats as long as they're only on when the game boots up. Anything else is over-reach.

Consider using hugepages, specifically 1gb size hugepages to improve performance on libvirt.

"I used the stones to destroy the stones" moment right here.

If there's one thing we can all agree on, it's how humble Muta is

All security and antivirus companies must flag all those shit kernel level anticheats as threats, also flag the dns websites-IP addresses of those games as malware hives.... and problem solved

IIRC Mihoyo already moved to mhyprot3, but I guess still not revoked prot2

Funny enough you can still use a zombie trainer on cod ww2 if you don't install any dlc but after you do the trainer doesn't pick it up. I think they forgot to add it do the default installation. Wish it did cause I'm remaking darkest shore in minecraft and want to see more outside the map. I wish it had a mod section like black ops 3 dose.

man it feels like the only way to not get hacked nowadays is to just not own a computer of any kind lmao

As always, how could this Possibly go wrong

i am going to construct hardware-level anticheat that formats the entire device to only play one singular game exclusively and once only in its entire history bricking and frying the entire device after that one singular run

That thumbnail 🤣 looks like the Curry was to spicy!!

I am literally playing Genshin while I am listening to this video. Let me get this straight. Is the Anti Cheat itself compromise and these hacks happen at random or do we need a third party file installed to hack the game for pulls?I get but don't get the situation. I do not open any files or download anything out of the ordinary. I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary and my computer boots up fine.

As long as there's games on pc there will always be a couple hackers. Just like piracy. This is one of the only downsides of open platforms like pc gaming.

Dude that was really interesting. Really had me like woah!

Highly accurate highly informative information from Muta, good stuff man. Any piece of code can have vulnerbilities but something sitting in the kernel with vulns is bad bad bad.

I would much rather deal with cheaters in games than anti-cheat most of the time

This is why I always advocate for cloud based anti-cheats, I get the fact that the driver is separate from the game, but why not just eliminate the problem entirely?

Muta's hair getting a little fluffy =P

Muta's hair be looking like an Italian military Bersaglieri helmet

Guys/Gals, its a good practice keep your gaming vs other stuff isolated. If you don't want to have 2 separate machines (1 for gaming and 1 for work), then have 2 isolated installs of windows on your system (1 for gaming , 1 for other stuff) . For example, some people have 2 SDD/HDD, and you can choose which to boot off on startup, and block the other drive or even unlplug its power so it cant be accessed. Also, some USB3 SSD drives are fast enough for running and OS, for example on your main system you can have windows, but have a usb 3 SDD with a Linux for non gaming. As an alternative, have your non gaming stuff run in a virtual machine (eg VirtualBox) that is stored on the USB 3 SDD. (Most people wont be able to virtualize their gaming due to GPUs are not easy to virtualize without some work.) Don't bother trusting antivirus... Assume everything is malicious or has bad flaws (maybe non-intentionally); But still be able to enjoy everything. Happy computing!😀

Waiting for these "pro" gamers to come out of their bedrooms to call for ring 0 anti cheats again, lul. Perhaps a proper AI driven server/userspace anticheat is necessary. Preferably open source for better security.

I think it's something that happens to any kernel driver from now and then, it's not an anti-cheat specific thing.

Top tier thumbnail the most thumbnail I've ever seen

he was right all along

Anticheats are helpful in keeping a fandom alive but can backfire horribly

if ive learned anything is you can never be too paranoid especially on PC

I literally cannot think of a single thing done for security or safety digitally that doesn't do more damage than good.

Muta: I was right all along Normie: But Muta

But Mudahar, how many people are going to know how to isolate drivers in this way? Or even audit their systems or logs for that matter?

Anti Cheat is also used by Halo MCC, I used to LOVE Punkbuster back in the day but for some reason they stopped their service.

For awhile a long time ago you could just use game guardian and parallel space on genshin to change drop rates and cost of pulls but mess with your stats in any way,shape or form you'd be guaranteed a perma ban next time you play.

Bro I was literally just playing genshin on my pc 💀

Ironic how VAC is the worse anti-cheat, but is actually safer overall lmao

Can you cover the orion experience controversy?

So many open hackers nowadays that technology is gonna move backwards to paper eventually because once enough munny has been lost/stolen combating hackers is redundant.

"If president Xi Jinping is searching through my computer, the only thing he will find is thousands of pages of Waluigi porn" - Max0r This stands for all the hackers out there...

Tower of Fantasy, on the other hand, has problably fuck all in the way of anti-cheat as hackers have been running rampant. Maybe they fixed the issue by now. It's been a couple of weeks.

Let's go, new mutahar video

i would love to see a video with a pc corrupted with this hack and a way to secure your self from it