I was wrong about Apple Vision Pro 

The most precious memories we have from the 1980s and 1990s are the videos that our dads shot with handheld camcorders at birthdays and other family events. A dad in 2024 filming a 3D video with a Vision Pro is not crazy at all. Imagine looking at those video memories for years and years later.

Also, the 2 hour battery life is normal for standalone VR Headsets, BUT you CAN use it ALL DAY just by having it plugged in! You don't need to rely solely on the battery packs 2 hour limit.

I disagree. That screen on the front is a feature for the user. If you have vr you know when someone walks in to come talk to you. You lift the headset off. This now makes it’s easier to talk to people without taking the headset off

You can decrease the weight of the device by making it out of magnesium or a magnesium\aluminum alloy. This will allow it to keep the metal looks while dropped the weight significantly.

I travel with multiple 99wh batteries for laptops, iPad, etc. when traveling I would use it all the time. 75” display in a coach seat!!

Regarding the high price tag, Palmer Luckey, the founder of Oculus VR, made the following statement: "VR has to become something that everybody wants before it can become something that everyone can afford. You can't reverse those two steps and expect mainstream acceptance."

I think this sort of tech has really great accessibility for some people with disabilities to be able to stay in touch with people and have access a computer they wouldn't be able to use easily

Elly was a great guest host! And she made me really excited for the headset hearing about her experience. 🤩

They needed a baseline feature set that all future headsets will have. Gave the full framework for developers to focus on. Meanwhile at Meta they roll out eye tracking with QP. Then remove eye tracking on Q3. Fragmenting the features that developers should be focusing on.

Thanks for having me on as a guest! Good times!!

Absolutely Properly Priced Luxury Experience- Tim cook, probably

i initially thought that this apple vision is for general consumers. if you think about it, its for their potential business partners and they are making a statement that they are now gonna take over the VR market and set the trend their way. once its all been tested and the development is good, hopefully they might get a general consumer version of the product for a reasonable price so the experience of people will not be buggy because it has been worked on before and apps has been catered to it.

they should have made the battery pack wirless charging so you can wirlessly connect it on the desk you're working, but when you have to move you can just pick it up and will keep the vision pro operating for 2hrs whlie being mobile, and if you go back to desk/couch you can put the battery pack back on the wirless charger... this is a connected headset, the battery back is just for temporary mobile use.

Apple had to knock it out of the park or else it’ll be like the Quest or Vive. No one really cares except the enthusiasts. But now, VR/AR is in the view of the mainstream. It’s something that the Everyman can use as long as they can pay for it.

Incorrect, this version won’t be used outside, sure, but spatial computing will replace your phone eventually. Maybe by version 3, it will be a size and weight that can be used all the time. They won’t use plastic and they will lean into the external puck and move the SoC on it, leaving only the co-processor on the display. They can have better heatsinks without having to put the weight on your head. The thing is, you won’t have your phone, you will use this with the puck. That’s why the front display is so important. When the headset is small enough, showing your face will be way more natural and you won’t need to take it off to interact with people. I don’t think it will ever get as small as glasses, not because it’s impossible, but because the user experience starts to suffer when your goal is to make the device that small. I can see it getting as small as the Balenciaga Mask Rectangle Sunglasses, maybe a little smaller than that, but once you go too small there are too many trade offs. You aren’t seeing the future of this product very clearly. It won’t be glasses sized, it won’t get rid of the puck, it will replace your phone, it will show your face externally so you don’t have to take it off, and it will have full day battery life. Also, I think the control of the device will expand beyond just pinching with your fingers, they have full skeletal hand tracking. I don’t think you’ll wave your hand in front of your face for the majority of controls, but it won’t be limited to just finger pinching.

i just gotta say this, austin looks like an alternate universe Logic. surreal

Apple Vision Pro is for Pros, they will release a more consumer friendly version with cut down features. Pros include content creators and filmmakers who will use it to record 3D content (Films, Music Videos, Concerts, Sports Events, 'Adult' Content). The Pro users Apple is targeting are game developers. Eventually the apps we love to use most will offer some level of 3D experience. What is the storage capacity of the Vision Pro? Is the storage local or in the cloud?

I will wear it outside. Watch me.

What people are missing is that Apple can release proper 3D vision pro movies.

I’m ordering 2 but only opening one of them! Excited!

Who thought it was weird to walk around with airpods?? Wired earphones had been a thing for a while before then and people walked around in those??? 12:49

Supposedly, Sony can make between 800 and 900 thousand screens the first year. So that means maybe 400 to 450 thousand headsets in the first year. They will sell every one. I’m going to try to get one, but with that limited supply, and a large number for developers and enterprise, which is interested, I don’t know if I will be able to. Yes, they will get the weight down. They will get the price down, but not to the $500 level. People will buy them. I’ve used industrial models that cost two to three times as much, need to be tethered to a powerful computer, and aren’t nearly as good as what the Vision Pro seems to be from the demos and from people who have tried it.

What concerns me is the weight, but since this is a first gen device, I'm sure it will get cheaper and better over time.

If apple can make a working duel disk I’m in

Alot of people are mis reading the charge capabilities 2h portable but the website even says or all day when plugged in, it is micro - C connection so auming u have same voltage you can plug in to your laptop 💻

4:11 love how even though the Oculus Rift has been dead and has seen no updates in like 4 years, the Rift is still the buzzword when talking about PCVR headsets XD

Sorry. Filming with an iPad isn't normal

Omg, it feels so good to hear the name Oculus!!. I fell in love with the oculus and idc how many times they change the name, it will always be the oculus to me.

First but I love these videos bro keep it up I look forward to watching these

Decided as I was watching this I’d revisit your time after a bunch of friends helped you after the fire. I cried many times.

The battery is external, so it won't be difficult for a user to buy an aftermarket larger capacity version. If it was an internal one, it would have been heavier, uncomfortable and harder to service when it's time to replace it.

The thing that excites me is the court side vision. More to like what could Fútbol clubs around the world could do. Catch a Man City vs Man United in England then to go watch a Barcelona in Spain. All front row seating. It’d be a good way for clubs to get extra revenue even artists. Catching a concert just by paying a fee. As long as they keep the fees at reasonable prices could be a new way to experience entertainment.

Elly!!! :D

I believe the 3D photos can be taken other family members who are less significant in that event😂 or! Just give you glasses to your photographer so he can take 3D memories for you!

I don’t think Apple looks at this product as something that’s going to be a massive money maker. This product is an investment into the ecosystem to show developers where they are headed and to get developers working that direction. Future iterations of this product where it gets smaller and more appealing to the masses is where they are looking to make money.

Joined Elly’s. Ty

dang austin got the new this is update where they removed matt and replaced him with elly awesome

I still don‘t understand why people keep banging on about the $3500 price tag. If you can‘t afford it, its not for you so move on.

No product that has taken 10 years and over 5,000 patents can be considered a "gen 1" product. There have been many iterations of this product that we have not seen as the public.

I think that everyone who's trying to figure out what Apple needs to *cut* from this device to make a more affordable version is barking up the wrong tree. That's not how Apple rolls. The current Vision Pro will become the mass-market device at a $2K price point in three years or so when Apple rolls out an updated Vision Pro. That's how the product life of iPhones is managed these days, and I don't see any reason why they wouldn't use that model here.

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This was really good! Kate is very lucky to have experienced the future....like it or not Apple will do their best to push this down the road. It isn't ready yet, they know it. My theory is they made it this expensive to keep this version out of the general publics hands to they can develop it further down the road without the general public interfering with it. On another completely unrelated note, does anyone else get The Truman Show vibes with the cans of pop on the table....? They have to put a sponsor somewhere in the video to make money. Is it just me?

People forget that iPhones have a LIDAR sensor. 100% you’ll be able to take 3D videos on your iPhone and play it back through the headset in the future.

Now that iPhone can record 3D videos to be relived on the Vision Pro it makes so much ore sense than going around awkwardly recording with the headset even tho we know that will become something normal too

Austin as changed no more BOSS coffee

What about if I wear glasses? They are going to make lenses for me? Or was that just for her demo

Austin why do you have the pride apple watch band

Amazing guest ❤

I think I’m more excited for the memes coming

I wonder if we're going to get to a point where you can create the 3D video content using the iphone so you can be present at "the kid's birthday party" instead of de-immersing yourself from reality and watching the party though screens so you can record it like that. It's no doubt awesome to be able to do that, but I think most people would rather witness the event with their eyes. Wearing the computer on your whole face just comes off kind of rude, as opposed to recording with an iphone or a camcorder like years past. Although I imagine this will evolve into eventually using a pair of glasses that use prisms to display content and privacy glass to fog out the glass to enter more VR like immersion.

Come on my dear apple fanboys, please jump on it and make it cool. Please! So then we can have proper cool vr headset in normal prices. Im getting bored of my index. 🤣

Did Matt quit after having to make the previous infomercial video for the Fire Tablet? 😄

Man, there's too much info with all these devices. Not about learning about them, just the amount of info they all give off makes me freeze.

Catch on with a $3500 price point? I highly doubt that

On one hand we got people saying “wearing stuff on your face is inherently disconnecting because people can’t see your eyes, blah blah blah technology bad” and on the other hand people saying “is the screen on the outside showing your eyes TOO MUCH???” People saying “it’s pointless and too expensive no one will want it” and then saying “plus with everyone wearing one of these nobody’s gonna be paying attention to each other.”

You make this work like every company makes this work. You make it the best gaming/porn monitor of all time.

Vision pro is first step toward future of computing

As a gamer, the Apple Vision Pro made me so excited for the coming Quest 3... lol

1:13 yes I can save you time with the “catch on” shit and no there’s a reason why Google lens didn’t work 😂😂😂

yooo

way to big, but ar glasses like rokid max are lighter and i just use the rokid max with own prescription glasses as second normal glasses outside together with the rokid station, so it feels more normal but i have still acsess to helpful infomation and some games to play everywhere without the need to take the phone out of the pocket and look down like a zombie all the time. i can keep eyecontact aand do the smartphone things, google stuff, watch videos,play games use apps and stuff while walking around and dont need this heavy device on the head. apple visiion pro also has only 2 hours battery, my rokid glasses have with the lil station 5 hours battery and are waay lighter and feel like normal sunglasses instead of a vr headset.

Who will make 3D content for expensive system propably using some proprietary codec? One big downside of 3D Tv's was lack of content and requirement of expensive glasses for everyone - with AR/VR glasses the price per user is tenfold and with this Apple AR 30-fold.

I think it's going to sell hundreds of thousands of this version. I don't think it's the next iPhone. But the original iPhone wasn't the iPhone yet. Compared to the first iPhone this is far more developed. What this is, is the next iPad. A lot of people thought the iPad was a ridiculous product. It was just a big iPhone without the phone. And you didn't really need an iPad. But the iPad had the advantage of being able to run iPhone apps from day one, so you didn't have this new high tech device that had no software to run on it. I bought the first iPad, and I loved it. Just after I got it, I was in England, where it wasn't being sold yet. A woman I was working with said she couldn't wait to tell her husband she had seen one in person. She said he had clipped out a magazine picture of the iPad, and was pretending to use it. I gifted her the box that mine came in, which had an actual size image of the iPad on the front. She told me he was ecstatic. A couple of years later I visited a sister who lived in China. When I asked what we could bring them from America, the thing they wanted was the latest iPad, which wasn't yet for sale there. For an item that people just don't need, it was very popular, and still is. I see similar levels of excitement for the Apple Vision Pro that I saw for the iPad when it was released. The high price will definitely keep many from buying, but if Apple sells only 10% as many AVP units as they sold iPads the first year, that would mean over 700,000. If they sell only 1% as many AVP units as they sell iPads today, that would still be over 400,000/year.

1 minute wow

The part where she talks about it "almost being weird" how real things looked and the being close to..... this is where at least 90% of all men (on the low end!) had the same exact thought.

I waned her for years and never thought they would collaborate

We had dk 1 and dk 2 before we ever got oculus rift…. The price and design will mature

They should have made it out of plastic. It would have been fine. The back of the iPhone 3G was made of plastic. This is like Back to the Future II where they had VR goggles on at the dinner table. That will be us pretty soon.

Regarding the battery life and battery pack: I'm thinking maybe Apple purposely restricted it at 2 hours max for this iteration. It's their subtle way to stop you from wearing the headset for too long -- for reasons of health and safety. This is meant to be experienced for up to an hour or so, not something you leave on all day.

for such a design focused company the fact that the top strap looked like an after thought when it's such an expensive device and it's so heavy was kind of disappointing.

Aussie! Aussie! Aussie!

apple do 2 hour battery life, and people like dude that's not enough. quest, what's the battery life again?

I almost never film on a concert anymore... First what hell??? I won't enjoy the real moment. Now... With a headset That costs more than a good car, f! That's a no.

why did i not put it together that Matt and Austin remind me of Drake and Josh.

Mat looks different today /j

For the test... I want to see a non apple fan, skeptical person. Emotions.. can cloud your judgement. Me... Once I test it at the store, I will be very calm and pay very attention at the details

I still dont see what this is actually used for. I think how we do things will need to be changed for this to be a go to device.

If i buy nba tickets, boxing, concerts…i would get the vision pro…you would save thousands a year and get best seat in the house

If any other brand made a 3.5k device with the flaws that this has, it would be absolutely bombed, no matter how beautiful it would be. But since it's Apple, everything is forgivable. F this world.

I've checked out of apple's ecosystem since the iphone 6 release, but I think I'm going to save up for the vision. This really does seem like the first HMD that doesnt seem like a gaming novelty. It actually seems like it could be taken seriously as a computing device. Any negative discourse around the vision right now really reflects the sentiment people had about the iphone, the ipad, and airpods, but look at how they have shaped the tech space. Everyone has a full-screen phone and wireless earbuds and most at least know a couple people with tablets (ipads predominantly). Sure, those things had been made before, but it was apples refinement of those products that launch the widespread adoption of them.

3:05 😂😂😂😂 inspiring and beautiful, please that’s 2 funny that shit is uglier than me!!!

I think it is hard to argue that the amount of technology and features that apple put into this headset isn't impressive. Despite the really incredible technology, I just don't see a practical use that makes it worth $3,500 for most consumers, even wealthy ones. Gaming is likely not a huge use case because of the lack of controllers. Movie watching is probably not a huge use case because it's uncomfortable, large, has a short battery, and if you have $3500 to spend on a vr headset you likely already have a great tv. There is also absolutely no way most people will be willing to wear this bulky headset to watch a movie on a plane. The same applies to work, monitors are substantially cheaper and more practical than a vr headset. Really the only use case I think is somewhat strong is socializing with people remotely. The front screen while innovative, also seems like an almost entirely unnecessary feature that significantly increases the cost for little benefit. When the iPhone came out, the value was obvious to me immediately, with this it seems like a really expensive, really cool tech gimmick.

i lost so much respect after i noticed the hibiscus la croix. why not just chase that with some carbonated lysol?

It's literally a VR Hololens.

I never seen anyone taking photos with a tablet in the uk 🇬🇧

Yuo change the aluminium for good cheap Abs (density is the half),removed the crepy screen , put the batery inside , 2000uss, Vision Poor (just for the rest of us)😊😅😊

It’s not any costlier than a small car. There will be enough people who will want it.

they had to compromise and make it with metal to help justify the premium price. First gen has to look pristine and premium. As soon as people gets hook up on this technology then Apple will modify it with lighter materials and improved battery life. I can imagine future annual releases. Just imagine in 2 years: " Vision Pro 2, 20% lighter, 15% smaller, battery is 15% smaller with 3h life, incorporated extra battery in the headset to allow 30 min of reserve power, M4 ultra chip, 8k in each eye, 20% increased FOV etc......... in 15 yrs everyone will be using regular like glasses and nothing else, homes will be without TV's ( no need for TV's ) and no home audio, all information technology available embedded on your visual fields.. that is the future apple is going

2:05 and RU-vidrs and reviewers who will buy it as a business expense and tax write off 👀

Bo

just buy a xreal and beam video headset that lets you watch movies. in 5 years when it's cheaper, sure but it's a tech demo rn

You didn’t think about the accessibility for vision impaired people like me.

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This is crearly a return to Apples' old concept for increasing growth..... Aspiration. This is an Aspirational product

Mark Gurman himself a few days ago on Bloomberg called the apple vision pro and I quote “fake AR” he said apple “from a technological point of view this headset, like you said is VR virtual reality!. What they’ve done is essentially make a fake AR glasses” that’s a direct quote from Mark Gurman on Bloomberg. So that’s it the vision pro is not an AR headset it’s a glorified VR headset with a high price. Hence today apple has cut the production to 400,000 units and was the reason for thr bloomberg interview with Mark!. Another quote from Mark “they’ve made fake glasses or quasi AR glasses with a screen and outside cameras to create a fake AR effect”. Disaster out disastrous product!.

Right out of the temple we praise - "second life" is the future 😀

Apple are gonna sell an external battery to easily double usage time for ridiculous prices because (1st…… they can) and also because (as far as I could tell from the keynote) it connects to the headset with a proprietary connector. Expect to pay hundreds of dollars for a jumped up powerbank with a fancy connector 😅

Do you know many youtube content creator out there?? Just that alone will sell out the headset

so no games

This will burn a hole through my wallet