I Was WRONG About Quilts

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I was wrong about backpacking quilts. I made some mistakes early on when choosing/ordering a backpacking quilt, which resulted in many nights of poor sleep. A few years later I've revisited quilts and have figured out what I needed to give me a great sleep experience.
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@KaiMirra 23 дня назад

I maxed out my UGQ when i bought it. Dynamic tension, square cut, zipper bottom, longer and wider, etc. the square cut and the zipper bottom allows me to use it as an actual quilt while car camping. Its the most expensive single piece of gear i own and wouldn't trade it for anything.

@BackcountryExposure 23 дня назад

I like it!

@ArendsAdventures 27 дней назад

The crew over at UGQ really know how to make quilts. They are BY FAR the most customizable options for quilts out there (that I've seen). I'm glad Chad helped you to come back to the quit side.

@JamesCairney 22 дня назад

Here is an old saying that people should remember "A blanket underneath is worth two on top" If you forget the insulation underneath yourself, you will get extremely cold.

@chillindave1357 26 дней назад

My EE quilt is the best decision I've ever made! Wider & longer than needed is a must

@BackcountryExposure 26 дней назад

Love it!

@BackcountryPilgrim 27 дней назад

#1 is often the only reason I hear to use a quilt, good advice on the pitfalls!

@BackcountryExposure 27 дней назад

👍🏻

@WilliamKapes 27 дней назад

One thing I don’t think gets brought up enough is bigger hikers. There are few options for those of us that are bigger around than the average Patagonia model. But many quilts are available in much wider widths. I use a wide 20 degree UGQ quilt and I’ve had it in the teens and slept very comfortably on either the Tensor Insulated or Ether Lite XT. I normally only use the pad straps once it’s sub freezing since the quilt drapes enough to minimize drafts. For Summer I have a couple of 40/50 degree quilts that are basically blankets with a footbox so super roomy.

@joeclark3149 27 дней назад

Devin could you do an experiment for us viewers. Could you add four plastic snaps to a down jacket with four corresponding snaps to a quilt. Two on each side. Maybe the jacket married to quilt can add the hood and keep drafts out. If it works then I would do the same thing. I think it would be a good video and I haven’t heard or seen anyone else doing it. As a side note I have an Enlightened equipment, a UGQ and a katabatic gear quilt. You’re right go with taller and wider.

@jjmcwill2007 26 дней назад

If the jacket hood was attached to the quilt, then as you turned left/right, your face would be buried inside the hood which would be problematic for many users. Products like the Enlightened Equipment Torrid Hood address this issue: you wear a hood that comes down over your shoulders, and combine that with a quilt that has a draft collar around the neck. It keeps your head and neck warm but also lets you toss and turn without getting your face buried in the hood (which is a common complaint among sleeping bag users.)

@planesandbikes7353 4 дня назад

well said. Expensive lessons though. I went from a 6C Montbell bag to a -6C OutdoorVitals quilt last year. I got the Long quilt. It is not long enough! It's maybe a bit narrow but I can work with that. I have not been in sub zero temps yet though I almost think I can do better in the Montbell under freezing, which I have done. I am mostly a warm sleeper though that is shifting as I get close to age 60. My quasar pad has not felt cold to me yet despite 1.7R, but oh man is it comfy. I would need a Nemo Tensor below freezing - again an expensive lesson.

@Away.Aweigh.A.Way. 26 дней назад

The Zenbivy has changed the way I sleep in the backcountry. I can’t imagine anything better.

@BackcountryExposure 26 дней назад

It's amazing!

@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING 9 дней назад

Great video! Awesome advice on quilts. Crow

@Yomamma100 27 дней назад

Yep! I love my UGQ 0 degree bandit in long / wide with dynamic tension control. Absolutely my favorite piece of gear.

@robynroamsoutdoors 27 дней назад

I've always been interested in quilts but was afraid to go to them. After learning more about them I find myself very happy with my Big Agnes Anvil Horn. It's like a hybrid of quilt and sleeping bag. It has worked very well for me.

@HuckOutdoors 27 дней назад

Welcome back to quilts! I tried to use a sleeping bag again and it was too confined to me. Don't think I'll ever go back.

@frederickdonelson 25 дней назад

Great video! Now we just have to get you back in a hammock!!😊😊 I definitely agree with getting longer and wider quilts. Good function is always more important than price or weight! Hope all is well with your family!!❤️❤️

@phillipp1399 27 дней назад

Every time someone complains about quilting drafts they don’t want to hear that they have the tong size and/or they’re using it wrong. Thanks for making it hearable for people.

@BackcountryExposure 26 дней назад

Thank you!

@jbvertexx 27 дней назад

Great video. My comfort quilt is a UGQ 20 with all the bells and whistles that you mention. It was my first quilt and so was a great entry into the world of quilts. It's comfortable all the way down to its 20 degree rating. I'm not as much of an active sleeper, so I'm able to size smaller and not feel constricted. I am a side sleeper and switch sides 3-4 times over the night, but it's not a constant toss and turn. For this reason, I'm also able to use the 20" pads to save weight. For me, aged 56, and really trying to push miles, weight is very important to a functional and enjoyable experience. So I've recently been using the Zpacks 30-degree quilt when the conditions allow. I have to dual-purpose my layering system to get comfortably to 30 degrees, and the Zpacks definitely has its share of trade-offs compared with the UGQ, but it does come at an 11oz weight savings which is significant. Additionally, I've completed my quilt selection with a 50 degree Enlightened Revelation Apex synthetic. This way I have all four seasons well covered. The EE+UGQ make an effective winter combo that gets me down to the low teens, with the synthetic EE on the outside that protects the UGQ down from condensation. The UGQ is my comfortable deep 3-season option. The Zpacks is a more moderate 3-season option when I'm trying to really dial in weight. And the EE by itself is perfect for casual Appalachian summer trips. Ultimately, backpacking is about making tradeoffs to optimize your load-out to help you achieve what you want out of your experience. On trips where I want more comfort, I use the UGQ. On trips where I am pushing my limits, I use the Zpacks as part of.a more dialed in kit.

@christianmartel5247 26 дней назад

In quilts we trust!!!😅

@debbilermond1553 27 дней назад

Thank you Devin for trying out so many different quilts/bags to find the best one for an all around good night's sleep! I admire your determination to keep testing until you hit upon the best way to go. I believe that there is a solution to the sleeping bag vs. quilt dilemma and what Feathered Friends came up with in a hybrid could be the best of both worlds. I bought the FF Flicker UL sleeping bag/quilt hybrid in wide width. It has 950 down fill with a lot of loft for the weight. It unzips completely with a drawstring footbox. I've used it in freezing temps in the Eastern Cascades with great results. I'm a side sleeper which seems to have ample room to move without getting claustrophobia. I'm also able to open the footbox and wear it in camp to keep me warn while sitting.

@InimitaPaul 27 дней назад

850 fill 20 degree wide UGQ Bandit with all the add ons with overstuffed sealed foot box, an Xtherm pad and a liner. I also take a cheap down summer sleeping bag that fully unzips into a blanket, it compresses so small and weighs so little. I’ve never had a cold night with my set up but I’ll tell you what, I love my cheap down summer bag more than anything and it’s not even branded, I’ve battered that thing and it’s still going strong, I just love it. It’s been through the washing machine countless times and comes up lovely every time. I don’t even remember where I got it!

@Sunsetspanish 16 дней назад

I have a zenbivy 10 degree and I love it! I look forward to nights in if

@tomlovesdiy 26 дней назад

Good that you have solved your quilt vs bag. I've always (55 years) been a sleeping bag guy. My hammock camper buddies convinced me to try s quilt. I bought the REI Magma 30 on sale. 850 FP down. Better than my DIY bags - 700 FP. So I dropped about 6 ounces. I use a Nemo Tensor R4.2 rated pad. On a recent hike, I used a Nemo Tensor R4.2 rated pad. And I put an extra insulating pad under the Tensor. I was cold at 40F. I was wearing a wool base layer, T-shirt, sun hoodie, and wool socks. Had to put on my Decathlon hooded puffer. Temp got to 34F. I wasn't cold. I've slept in 34F with less clothes and been warmer in my DIY bag. Maybe I need to spend $350 on a custom quilt to get a comfortable night in a quilt. But I'm not going to. I'll just keep using my bag. Tom Loves DIY.

@fuffydingo 27 дней назад

I have 2 UGQ quilts, a 0° and a 20°. Never going back!

@BackcountryExposure 26 дней назад

Rad!

@nicksam5518 26 дней назад

I tried a mummy bag a few times in my youth- hated my sleep, woke up claustrophobic, just miserable experience. I saw my 1st quilt on a RU-vid video.. & I knew I found my people. I now have …4, maybe 5 quilts? 40* UGQ, 25*EE, and a zenbivy light. I also keep a few apex options ( I live PNW, rain & wet gear is a concern, & winter layering works better w/ 1 being apex). I LOVE my zen ivy style, & I swap out options regularly.

@david_onthetrail 27 дней назад

You scared me with the start, I just purchased my first quilt. Then I kept watching and I think I will be good because I ordered a wider and longer quilt and my pad is rated at r4.2. I'll see how I do this year.

@NealBenson 11 дней назад

Love your videos bro!

@BackcountryExposure 11 дней назад

Thank you!!

@Fizzyfuzzybignbuzzy 27 дней назад

I’m still on a Paria thermo down 15 quilt. It works well I pair it with an added down blanket to cover me to help eliminate drafts and to add warmth. I’ve also found the klymit v sheet fits over a recharge XL pad so I’ve kinda made it into a wanna be zen bivy system. I would love to get into a zen bivy system next it looks like it fits my style perfectly.

@kellyjohnson3617 27 дней назад

I love my sleep system. I have a great thermarest pad and bandit quilt. I have the open foot box so I can use it 3 seasons. Cinching up the toe box when it’s gonna be a cold night. Open it up when it’s warmer. It’s great quilt. You are right. Make sure it’s big enough. I have a zero degree mummy sleeping bag but it was too warm most of the time for me. If I opened it up to cool off I’d end up getting too cold then have to turn on the light to figure out how to zip up the sleeping bag again. I also got a light weight sleep sheet. That also helps me with controlling my body temp and avoid drafts.

@rodoutdoors 27 дней назад

My first quilt was a 20 deg HG quilt in Wide with 2 oz overfill. Paired with a Tensor and a down hood, it keeps me toasty in the Winter. I just picked up a 40 deg and using it for 3 seasons now. I don't get drafts with the pad straps.

@juliomb1 26 дней назад

My first quilt was a UGQ Bandit 40* and I got the Dynamic Tension Control. I’ve never had to strap that quilt down and I’ve never had a problem with drafts. Just love it.

@BackcountryExposure 26 дней назад

That is awesome!

@countrygirl63baker64 25 дней назад

❤😂🎉🎉🎉 That was really helpful, because I still cannot pull the trigger on a quilt......yet

@jpriddle 24 дня назад

Hey there, Devin. This is excellent. It can be a really tricky concept to grasp about pad vs bag/quilt insulation. So easy to blame one or the other for sleep issues. I almost think it just has to be learned vs. taught? I agree about the quilt size in general. But to get super tech-y for a second, I believe the draft reduction design elements play an even more significant role. For example, my first quilt was from a company that used a fairly simple baffling, edge cut and pad strap design. Even as an overstuffed wide quilt, it was very easy to drafts and cold spots. After a couple more attempts with similar designs, I finally got ahold of a used Katabatic quilt, but it was standard (narrow) width and 6’ length (I’m 6’ tall). There are four features that made this the most comfortable and versatile quilt I’ve used. 1) Catenary cut elastic edges (similar to the Bandit), 2) Differential cut baffles 3) Trapezoidal footbox 4) pad attachment system with hooks on the sides of the quilt in addition to clips on the edge. These all worked together to keep the edges of the quilt against the pad and the down from being compressed by my shoulders and hips. With all of that working, the reduced interior volume makes it more efficient to warm up than a larger quilt. It sounds like UGQ is employing a lot of the same “tricks”, if maybe a little differently. But this is a huge mouthful of technical nerdery and all has to be executed well by the designer and manufacturing. So the short answer is, like you said, buy a bigger quilt. 😂

@BackcountryExposure 24 дня назад

Thanks man! I think that's the process for a lot of backpacking gear. Learned in the field. I really need to look hard at a Katabatic quilt. Many have shared similar comments about them. Thanks for sharing all of that! Love the nerdery, ha ha!

@wstewart5532 27 дней назад

I am not a quilt user but keep thinking about it. Watching the video, and the evolution of side protection to reduce drafts, makes me think quilts are maturing full circle back to what a sleeping bag provides. A wider sleeping bag seems to provide what those last 2 quilts provide. Not 100% but darn close. Right now I still feel like a wider sleeping bag will give me what I need for cooler weather. But am still wondering about a quilt or even blanket solution for warmer weather. I'd love to see a video about warm weather options, something for when those warm/hot spring/summer/fall days still have a cooler night where you would like something to spread over you but the ability to kick your legs out or lay half-under something.

@vinceimp9581 27 дней назад

Ever since I got a sidewinder 20 sl I've been more than comfortable with it and just a nemo tensor down to around freezing and into the 20s with a liner. At the end of a long hike it just seems to finicky for me to use quilt systems in a tent vs the sidewinder I just get in and zip up. I do like a quilt when its warmer and use it like a blanket with no straps or anything, also in a day hammock if is a little chilly.

@summittaedae2323 27 дней назад

I still want a good heavy quilt tor my hammock set up. We be don’t be have good options in Scotland. If I can ever afford a Canadian holiday I’m going over with an empty suitcase. Canadian and American outdoor gear is next level quality.

@BackcountryExposure 27 дней назад

You’ve got some rad retailers over there though that are adding more US brands! Valley and Peak?

@filmic1 12 дней назад

Quite a survey. Thank-you. I don't know if you mentioned if you were a cold or hot sleeper? I'm a HOT sleeper and constantly sticking my feet out of the bottom of my sleeping bag and/or venting, be it a light Penguin summer or my COOP Swan Mummy. I just bought a MEC Talon 0ºC Quilt to go with my short TR Neo XLite. Whereas my wife was a very COLD sleeper and required two sleeping bags if it was a late summer early fall.

@SummitSeeker546 27 дней назад

I’m a side sleeper and the reason a mummy sleeping bag doesn’t work on cold nights is that when you roll to a side your upper shoulder and hip press up against the down compressing the loft and creating a cold spot. I have a properly sized UGQ 20° wide quilt that I use with a silk liner. I love the liner because it adds some warmth, keeps the quilt free from body oils and dirt, and prevents my body from pressing against the quilt thus compressing the loft. It also dramatically reduces the draft factor that some complain about when using a quilt. With my custom UGQ I added 1oz of down to the closed footbox and a draft collar. I also carry a Thermarest Z Lite Sol closed Foam Pad (cut in 1/2) to use under my Thermarest NeoAir Xlite 25” wide inflatable pad. The closed foam pad gives additional R value to the already decent warmth of the Xlite. I have had this system down to 0° and stayed warm wearing just a pair of shorts and a tee shirt. No need for wool socks either. The closed foam pad also acts as my sit pad, gear dump pad for when I unload my pack at camp, yoga pad, vestibule door mat, star gazing pad, etc. This system has worked beautifully for me in the shoulder seasons when temps at night can typically dip into the teens. Warm and cozy… 😴 💤

@asweat2483 27 дней назад

I have a similar set-up. Do you mind sharing which silk liner you use? And is it designed for quilts or sleeping bags? Bc I see a lot for sleeping bags but have yet to find one for quilts. I have a liner for my Bandit but it’s not silk. Silk sounds nice lol

@SummitSeeker546 27 дней назад

@@asweat2483 it’s the Cacoon silk liner. It’s made for a mummy bag but it’s got a boxed footbed. It’s long but normally I just pull it up to my chest or if it’s cold I’ll pull it up over my shoulders. Even though it’s a mummy shape it’s still roomy for me. I’m 6’ 185lbs. I love it. When it’s warm out I’ll sleep on my quilt in just the liner. Works great! 👍

@LaconianConcepts 27 дней назад

I’m a side sleeper… and a properly sized and shaped mummy bag is the EXACT reason I prefer a mummy bag over a quilt (unless it’s warm weather then I can use either that or a quilt). I think what he says right in the first minute of this video hits the nail on the head for a good experience in ALL sleep systems - not just a quilt. At the end of the day… you do you. I still prefer a bag (my bag anyway) and you can prefer a quilt. Lets use whatever gets us outside!!!! See you on the trails

@truepaulesko 25 дней назад

As a side sleeper I am 100% in the sleeping bag camp. I have wide sleeping bags from WM and cumulus, and they work very nicely for people who moves a lot

@asweat2483 25 дней назад

@@SummitSeeker546 Awesome! I will check it out. Thanks so much.

@horsedog713 27 дней назад

Thanks for this info. I’m currently trying to decide between the Zen bevy flex pad and the Nemo All season pad. Which has been more comfortable in your experience?

@BackcountryExposure 26 дней назад

Both are excellent options. For me, the Zenbivy pad is more comfortable though.

@dmn3773 26 дней назад

It's worth noting that if you're a larger or broader person, you might not find a quilt as comfortable as you expect. I'm also an active sleeper, but being broader, I've found quilts to be more of a hassle than a benefit. Summer nights are manageable with a few drafts, but for fall and winter trips, getting a good night's sleep takes more effort. Thanks for the video!

@jjmcwill2007 26 дней назад

I'm a big guy too. It sounds to me like an Extra Wide/Extra Long quilt may work better for you.

@dmn3773 26 дней назад

@@jjmcwill2007 it does not, but thanks for posting.

@azclaimjumper 27 дней назад

I've never been interested in quilts/hammock sleep systems. Hammocks in the backyard are the only ones I've ever stretched out on in hot weather when shaded. The tent in the background is a look-a-like, wanna be Hilleberg Enan, but it ain't - The Enan pole is inside a sleeve. Warm Regards from nearby Reno, Nevada

@jonathankobbe6073 27 дней назад

I think the main point in this video is in the positioning of the pad attachment points and not the size of the quilt. I've owned a very light quilt, the Thermarest Vesper 20 for over a year now and i am very happy with it even though TAR's equivalent sleeping bag, the Parsec weighs almost 1.5 times as much as the Quilt. I absolutely love the freedom of movement it provides over a sleeping bag. Even with it being a normal size (I am 178 tall, so 5cm/2 inches from the max for this quilt, but i also would advice people over 180/5,11 to take the larger one). And it provides comfortable warmth right to the advertised point for me. I think that is due to the extra baffle tugging inside from the pad attachment points that apparently block out all prossible drafts. Now i am just one person and other peoples experiences might vary but i think its logical. I've seen a lot of people complaining about drafts with quilts that attach on the end and i can totally see it. This would be my main condern in buying a quilt. Of course a bigger quilt will not be less comfortable but it will be heavier and less warm and i my experience comfort was great with a fitting quilt already.

@InimitaPaul 27 дней назад

Careful with that Vesper, mine ripped at the V leading into the foot box and I woke up in an expensive down wonderland and it wasn’t even 6 months old. UGQ’s are much more durable for not much more money.

@jonathankobbe6073 27 дней назад

@@InimitaPaul that doesn't sound good. I've been wondering why no one seems to use them in the US. But since i'm from europe the options are more slim. I also think they have a good warranty but i am not quite sure. Do you know if this is a coomon occurance? The fabric is crazy thin, i am definitley very careful with it. But of course a rip can happen no matter what. I think some other quilts actually feature 7D materials so i figured the 10D would be ok 😂

@InimitaPaul 27 дней назад

@@jonathankobbe6073 I’m in Europe too (UK), getting the UGQ Bandit through customs cost a small fortune. What happened with mine was side sleeping in the fetal position and then stretching out my legs as I switched position and catching a foot in the V while anchoring the upper part of the quilt to the pad with my body, but being half asleep I pushed into it not realising what I was doing and that’s what did it. Completely my fault and it’s not something I’ve heard anyone else mention but that V is very fragile, it really didn’t take much force at all to rip it. They are lovely and warm though, I used black Gorilla duct tape to seal it (huge rip) and it’s now my couch quilt, works great on the La-z-boy. The duct tape looks terrible but it’s on the bottom so not really visible most of the time.

@jonathankobbe6073 27 дней назад

@@InimitaPaul i think/hope that i don't move that much when sleeping, i'll have to look at that spot. Maybe it's even possible to preamptively strengthen it somehow, idk. Thanks for the heads up anyway. What how much do you have to pay on top for imports? At least for tents it's 33% on top to germany 😵‍💫

@InimitaPaul 27 дней назад

@@jonathankobbe6073 Damn! 33% is crazy! I thought 20% was bad, no wonder you don’t import from the US. Good luck with the quilt, for the price Thermarest charge for a new one it would be well worth running a few more stitches through the V with some more substantial thread. Best of luck bro.

@hikethat401 27 дней назад

Still can’t beat HG for price vs quality. If you sleep on the ground go for the wide quilt.

@lundiboy8 27 дней назад

I've never had an issue with my quilts just because I always got bigger than what I was supposed to get anyways. I am 6ft3in 210lbs and move alot while being a side sleeper. For comparison. My EE 0 degree quilt 950fill is Long/Xwide and custom made for $605 and weighs 34oz. A zen bivy setup for my size and their lowest temp setup option (10 degree limit temp) comes in at $928 and weighs 41oz. The EE also packs down smaller than the zenbivy quilt and sheet combined. I've never had a cold draft in my quilt in the single digits and I was plenty warm. You can use their pad straps in any way you want to prevent drafts and hug your body so I get all that and 20 extra degrees of warmth for a better deal. I am sure something like the zen bivy is comfortable but I don't have issues with my current setup.

@margyg 26 дней назад

We have had our UGQs custom Bandits for 5 years now. We have had many expensive down standard sleeping bags. We will NEVER go back to a sleeping bag. WE both say the UGQs are the best bags we have ever had. We love the flexibility to put a leg, legs,, body etc out as needed to self regulate temperature. The quilts have allowed us to use our quilts in all but the warmest weather.

@_Chris390 26 дней назад

How about for very cold weather?

@margyg 25 дней назад

@@_Chris390you can get wuts in different temperature ratings. As long as you have an appropriately insulated sleeping pad and properly sized quilt. If it is cold you can also add a clothing layer like wool leggings & top. UGQ also let's you add extra down to the foot box area if cold feet is an issue for you. Laying on compressed down in a full enclosed sleeping bag doesn't provide insulation either.

@ddff5242 25 дней назад

Did you get the wide or extra wide on their website?

@BackcountryExposure 25 дней назад

For the UGQ I got the Wide, the 60” width.

@woodchip2782 27 дней назад

Does that pad fit in the TarpTent that I see behind you?😊

@BackcountryExposure 27 дней назад

That’s the Moment DW. It does, but it’s tight.

@drytool 27 дней назад

Have you looked into false-bottom sleeping bags like the Cumulus Aerial?

@BackcountryExposure 27 дней назад

I have. Love the Cumulus products.

@Askfornate 26 дней назад

I was thinking my grandma’s red white and blue knitted quilt. 😂

@edduff875 27 дней назад

Western Mountaineering Megalite works great and I sleep in my stomach. Weight about the same as this so why change

@_Chris390 26 дней назад

GramXpert eLite. Also don’t get any quilts with an sewn closed footbox. Should open up totally flat if you want to use it that way.

@BackcountryExposure 26 дней назад

I love having a sewn footbox. I don't tend to be in temps though that warrant opening up my bag/quilt completely like a blanket.

@TheOlsonOutfit 27 дней назад

1:55 incidentally, I can get away with a narrower top quilt in a hammock because the underquilt curves up on the sides.

@Supes_Outdoors 25 дней назад

Why don’t they just make a big/wide bag with a false bottom…meaning just like a 15D bottom with no down or anything so there are no drafts? Simplifying the whole thing while keeping it light. I’ve seen a few false bottom bags but the still looked a little to narrow. I’m leaning towards the WM Terralite because it’s a big wide bag and only weighs 2lbs. I currently have the Nemo Disco 15 which I love but it’s just over 3 lbs. I’m a side sleeper.

@BackcountryExposure 25 дней назад

I think the Big Agnes Diamond Park is within that realm, and also the Sierra Designs backcountry bed and cloud.

@edwin8808 27 дней назад

We forgive you Devin Indoors!

@jantomaszrogala4230 26 дней назад

Ha, the main complaint from the quilt users is that sleeping bags are constricting, well not for everyone, I love the coziness of sleeping bags and actually sometimes sleep in them at home on my bed and if I'm too hot I open the zipper. Just the zipping up my bag gives me feeling of warmth and comfort, while sleeping in the quilt(which I have done many times) is either constant struggle with drafts or restlessness from fear of getting one, so we are all different 😂

@davidcooper8390 26 дней назад

Great advice. Prioritize function over weight savings.

@BackcountryExposure 26 дней назад

👊🏻

@DerekMellottphoto 26 дней назад

Big Agnes catching blows.

@BackcountryExposure 26 дней назад

Just telling it like it is.

@PrybarCommando 27 дней назад

I just sleep in a burlap sack. It’s good enough for potatoes, it’s good enough for me.

@jbullfrog81jw 26 дней назад

I feel quilts are for hammocks. When I'm forced to ground camp I want a full bag.

@BackcountryExposure 26 дней назад

yeah we all have different preferences based on how we sleep and where we live too. :)

@Jonsoh811 21 день назад

So… basically fit and function are essential… isn’t that pure logic? As a side sleeper that tosses and turns, it’s the whole reason I use l sleeping bags. Not a narrow style mummy, but one with extra space. Result is that I can toss and turn, no drafts, less weight than any comparable sized quilt and usable at a wider temperature range by using it as a blanket or a bag.

@BackcountryExposure 21 день назад

It is logic, however, within the backpacking world, the weight of gear has become such a hyper focus for people that they forget to prioritize function first.

@IvanGorbenko 27 дней назад

doesn't it looks like for you that this system is now just a wide sleeping bag?

@BackcountryExposure 27 дней назад

You could argue that’s the case. Ha ha.

@IvanGorbenko 27 дней назад

@@BackcountryExposure Also, do you think the weight of the quilt will be the same as the sleeping bag now? Because this weight will be distributed on the sides instead of the back.

@IvanGorbenko 27 дней назад

@@BackcountryExposure One more question: Do you know if any RU-vidrs are selling some of their equipment after they have done reviews on it?

@blueneet84 26 дней назад

People immediately blame the bag/quilt if they get a cold sleep. I did and it was my pad!

@BackcountryExposure 26 дней назад

👍🏻👍🏻

@mikePNW 27 дней назад

Sleeping bags are way too confining for me. Will never go back.

@jamicrawford6729 27 дней назад

So, basically a loose fitting sleeping bag and not truly a quilt

@BackcountryExposure 26 дней назад

🤷🏻‍♂️ if someone 6’ tall and 250 pounds gets into it, does it then become a quilt?

@syindrome 27 дней назад

Tha quilt is heavier than an Alpinlite and is still missing the hood!

@BackcountryExposure 27 дней назад

It’s a good thing weight isn’t my primary concern. 😁

@lyndapayne1680 27 дней назад

I got a Wiggy bag made for a fat lady. Can roll around easily in the mummy shape.

@MattyOutdoors 26 дней назад

realistically, I don't think quilts will work out that well for active sleepers. Even with a wide quilt and pad straps, active sleepers will be exposed to drafts

@BackcountryExposure 26 дней назад

Guess that’s where zenbivy shines with the sheet system.

@MattyOutdoors 26 дней назад

@@BackcountryExposure 100%.

@johannasolesbee5647 27 дней назад

I completely disagree with you, it's a shame that it didn't work for you, I love my Quilt 850 from UGQ 0 degrees and I used the measurement chart for the length and width to cover my head, I also ordered the straps, I'm always toasty even though I'm moving all night and I use the thermarest 6.9 mattress, I would die in a sleeping bag 1 because of the weight 2 claustrophobia and not being able to move.

@BackcountryExposure 27 дней назад

Totally respect that, and appreciate you sharing that perspective. Sleep is subjective and different for everyone. These are the changes that have made the difference for me.