If you fill the back of those trays with expanding foam it makes them very strong and ridge they will hold the wrenches and sockets for years and not break , Pete M
Being able to swap your broken tools is key I don't know if its just the Snap-off dealer I have but that dude will never replace a tool with a tool that's rite there on his truck he will order it and make you wait for it and if you tell him you can't wait cuz you need it for every day use like every mechanic out there he just said well if you need it that bad then buy a new one thats when I told him that I won't buy tools from him anymore and I only use him for replacement now I love my Snap-on tools but can not stand the shit head Snap-on dealer that I have in my town
@@hulksmash5-625 He probably does it that way so he can claim all the replacements on paper or something. There's probably some convoluted proxe involved. Sorry to hear that man!
1) Icon is the tool truck quality brand at HF 2) HF actually stands behind their warranty, and doesn't really ask questions. 3) At least for the 1/2" breaker bar, save your money and get the Pittsburgh. $20, goes on sale for ~$15, still has a lifetime, and has been tested against the big tool truck branded competitors... and beat all of them. Look up Real Tool Reviews.
I give all my old tools that I’ve replaced to the local High School, giving back to the future generation is a good thing not to mention a tax write off! Love your videos
I’ve been using mostly ICON everyday for the past year and I haven’t had anything bend, break, or wear too significantly. For the price, they are phenomenal. They will honor the guarantee, my dad broke a screw driver and no questions asked it was replaced, but that’s my only example because nothing else has broken.
@@cgrizzly33 I’ve been using them for about a year doing lift kits and off road builds and even been punishing a chrome 19mm on a big impact and I haven’t got anything to break or even mess up a little bit. I love tools, so I own a lot of different brands, and I’d consider them top notch
I like harbor freight tools because they what Sears used to be !! walk in with a broken tool walk out with a replacement tool with no hassle that why I've been buying my all my tools at harbor freight 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I only returned a Craftsman tool once, a screwdriver (okay maybe Someone used it as a chisel), This was 40 years ago, and the sales guy said this looks abused. I pointed to the sign over his head that said "Satisfaction Guaranteed" He got me the new screwdriver and cussed under his breath. Only ONE HF return, and no questions asked... Yes, The new Sears... you hit it spot on..
i went to HF with 2 broken racheting breaker bars, some broken torx sockets, and a broken extension (went he-man on some bolts on a rusty truck LOL). told the cashier the breaker bars had stripped teeth. the cashier said ok and in 5 minutes I walked out with new breaker bars and sockets. when I was 19, I bought some craftsman tools to work on my car and couldnt exchange some torx t handle wrenches with twisted tips and a phillips drivers with a cracked tip because "they were abused". last new craftsman tools I bought. everything since was from home depot (husky or milwaukee) or harbor freight.
@@JustinTBraun you said in the video they seem like snap on quality. After you got to use them for over a year would you still say they are on par with snap-on?
I was in H.F. 2 weeks ago, as they were still loading their racks with the new Icon tools. I asked if the 20% coupon can be used on Icon tools, and she said "NO". Don't it figure, you can't use it on the expensive high quality stuff.
Just bought a wrench set. They are a copy of snap-on flank drive 2. They are a little sharp on box end like they needed to tumble another hour. So far I'm impressed. Tray is nice. Did you notice if you flip the bolt down piece over it's a wrench wrack too or would work for one $1800 isnt bad. That covers my 1/4" drive snap-on stuff. Wish they would come out with semi-deep sockets.
In the U.K. we have Screwfix, but they don’t stock a quarter of the lines Habour Freight do and it’s a catalogue shop which you can’t walk round. I know a lot of Americans seem to be dismissive of HB, but I’m green with envy.
Just started as a mechanic for myself been working on cars for friends and family and flipping, I have been using the cheap craftsman tools and stuff like that from harbor freight and I only broke 1 breaker bar when I had a 4 ft pipe on it trying to break lug nuts off a 65 GMC Van and I've shaken my truck on the jacks before trying to break bolts loose they don't beak.
After spending 20 years in the tool business I am seriously impressed. NEVER EVER thought I would say that about Harbor Freight! Tool trucks are in for it!
Overtime Garage Of course they will play it down. What else can they do? The truck pricing has created this opening for HF and they have taken full advantage of it. Perfect timing on their part I would say!
@@craigjorgensen4637 for sure! Its crazy how expensive the tool trucks have got over the years. I mean some of those tool prices are just way out there...
@@craigjorgensen4637 nahh I disagree most guys working on cars tell the tool man to get them what they want and the tool trucks have all the special tools sizes that icon does not thin wall on sockets and wrench boxes which you will find comes in handy in crucial times of clearance different length and style of wrenches racheting also and financing on truck most guys I've worked with had bad credit so they won't get hf to finance them and the tool trucks already have their lower lines that compete with this stuff already that isn't much more expensive at all cornwell blue power 3/8 drive chrome deep and shallow sae and metric with a cornwell ratchet 200 bucks it's damn near the same as the icon sockets with a ratchet and you can get it in 12 point aswell and the cornwell guy will take 30 a week till you pay it off and warranty it so that's where I disagree
Victor Van Etten I agree about the financing. The tool truck guys give credit to people with no credit or horrible credit that no financial institution would touch. They get burned too! I think HF may have no idea just how bad some of these applicants are going to be. Still, this isn’t going to make the trucks go out of business but they are going to be affected big time. Some on the edge may not survive.
Take a silver sharpie or a white paint marker and run across the raised letters on the trays. Makes them much easier to read and doesn't take long to do.
I just stumbled upon this. Great video. I have about $400 worth of icon stuff so far and I went to Home Depot today to grab one thing and walked out with 1/4 3/8 and 1/2 inch drive husky 144 tooth ratchets and I have to say I like the husky ratchets so far. Spent more than I should have today 😂
I remember when I used to be a tool snob. It had to be American made and high end....but then I found harbor freight and now I’ve repented my snobbish ways
You still can get craftsman tools replaced quickly. Just take the broken tool to your local Ace Hardware store. They are the best place for Craftsman tools.
Directional adjusters, Good God. On par with snap on, lol, seriously. I will admit that you are a exceptional person. Most people cannot look at a tool and determine the metallurgy of it. Seriously brother, you have definitely missed your calling. While the Icon brand is a decent tool for the money it is not on par with a Snap On. Of course all the haters love to pile on the truck brand tools. But until you live in that environment for many years, make a living that depends on you tools never failing and your paycheck reflects that. Then you honestly have no clue why a good tool truck owner is so valuable in your success as a mechanicwho gets paid by book time. Are they over priced, well that depends. If you just look at the cost of a ratchet then yes, hard to justify 6 times the cost. But that's not "EVERYTHING" at stake here. From the customer service to carrying a weekly balance, being there every week to service you. Now I am referring to the tool basics, wrenches, sockets, ratchets, hammer, screwdriver, etc. Not necessarily the rebranded items. But even (some) them can be a advantage at times from a warranty and service standpoint. Hell Tekton has kicked Icon tail in head to head testing almost across-the-board. With all of that being said, for a home - semi professional mechanic company's like Icon and Tekton are definitely the way to go. Quality to dollar money spent is pretty good.
I am exhausted just looking at how many packages you have to open, looks like too much work. Also, Talk about having a big boy Christmas.. lol.. great Video and review. love the green tool Boxes. great review,,
I bought a set of their ratchet wrenches in metric and standard about 2 years ago....and I have abused them every day at the shop. 2 1/2lb sledge hits, ball pean smacks, short cheater pipes, throwing them on the ground, and I've tried to break them or ruin them. It takes alot to tear them up. The quality is very surprising...durability is pretty good too. I have only broken the 18mm so far...but that was with a 6ft cheater pipe and not even snap on holds up to that with enough booty in it. The warranty is easy enough to deal with vs chasing down the snap-on or matco truck down or calling them for warranty. 90% of all my tools are Matco, with a few sets from snap-on and warranty for those is a pain....especially since matco doesn't have a route anymore in my area. Same thing also goes for their ICON ratchets. I've been pretty hard on them and haven't done any maintenance or cleaned them at all and they've held up just as good as the stuff from the tool trucks. So I have bought a number of ICON tools for my tool cart to tote around....if anyone asks to borrow any tools, that's what I hand out first usually and some of the other techs at the shop are surprised when I tell them they are harbor freight lol $120 for a wrench set from ICON vs $380+ from Snap-On....The winner for me is ICON for a budget friendly, pretty damn good quality tool. Long term quality from here remains to be seen but still. Any one considering it, needs to atleast give it a try IMO.
Meanwhile in Australia $2k gets you about half that in tools and it looks no where near the quality or attention to detail when compared to our 'budget' tools.
Was about to say, it’s impossible to know right now if they are high quality as Snap On since they just came out. But we’ll know for sure in about 5-10 years. My opinion on it is that, if anything breaks, you have to call and get in line to send something back to be fixed or replaced. Since we have took trucks that come weekly, we can just swap out right then and there for most things. I would hate to have to send in a tool I use regularly then wait all that time to finally get that tool back. And by that time, I would probably have bought something off a truck to replace that and then I just wasted my money on Icon tools b/c now I’m using other tool brands that have weekly trucks.
@@JustinTBraun ohh okay didnt know that. If that's so then that's pretty cool actually but you still have to make a drive over and spend your time and gas money doing that versus a tow truck coming to you. Hopefully the icon tool selection continues to grow because at the harbor freight near me there's really only2 aisles with tools by them.
A little bit about newage Craftsman... They're made in China & Taiwan. The Chinese stuff is decidedly bad, but don't be afraid of the Taiwan stuff, as they're really good. They're bringing production of hand tools back to the USA by the end of 2020. Will you do a review on their new US-made tools next year? They already produce quite a few tools in the US again, just not metal hand tools. About your friend's remark about using the old Craftsman stuff and not being able to get them warrantied out when they break... Yes, you can. Go to either Lowe's or Ace Hardware. They're the 2 main primary official carriers of Craftsman now. They have big walls and sections of the store dedicated to Craftsman tools. I swapped out a couple ratchets here recently.
They may look like the higher quality tools but they aren't the same. Either way you are setup now. Good on you for investing in your future. Good luck brother
I think I heard somewhere that the head for the icon team used to work for snap on. No idea how true that is, but I heard it on the internet so it has to be true
Using the right tool for the job is what keeps your tools in good shape. When people take ratchets to break nuts and bolts loose that are super tight, instead of a breaker bar. Then they wonder why the teeth on the ratchet strip out. Or using 12pt chrome sockets on impact wrenches, and can't figure out why they round nuts off or split their socket. I see people constantly rounding out hex bolts by simply not using the right size hex key or socket. I am not saying this is the reason why all tools break or the job takes longer than usual to complete, but the majority of time people are too lazy to go back to their box or to buy/borrow the right tool for the job. I have learned the hard way as well a few times and have broken snap-on, Matco an Mac tools before. I have used a Pittsburgh tool set from HF on deployments in Afghanistan and not broken one tool.
I have seen a lot of videos about icon tools. I wrench for a living, and honestly, I don’t spend my money on chrome sockets anymore. All I use is my impacts. Let us know how those ratchets hold up over time, they seem well made.
Most ppl, 0 is their life savings. I make 70 grand a year and my life savings is 0. I'm 38. If you are below 60 and have a "life savings" you are either a complete dork, or have nothing to show for all your hard work.
@@JustinTBraun I may not have anything saved but I have just about everything I want. I have many hobbies and collections I can easily transfer to useless cash if needed. Stuff will always be worth something, flat currency may not. 1000.00 now will be like 100.00 in 30 years.
I own 3 cars and they're not the newest cars in the lot. I do it myself when it comes to maintenance and repairs. I've never had a HF tool fail on me. HF has come in the clutch for me. I've recently started buying their Icon tools which are top of the line.
ive never been a fan of harbor freight. needed a tall jack to lift my rzr. stopped by to pick up a daytona jack and was looking at some of the icon stuff. i was actually kind of impressed with it myself. might have to try out a few ratchets
After using the standard size wrenches and sockets for about a month everyday, will you make a video about how the ICON products mentioned are holding up?
Hello sir. How are all these tools holding up today? No there not snap on tools but they are good quality. What icon hand tools I own I've been very impressed! 😀
I’ve noticed Harbor Freight likes to cops a lot of other tool companies tools! Their low pro jacks are the exact same as Snap-on and they even attempted to sue Harbor Freight, their big half inch impact 1200ft/lbs is the same as DeWalt’s......
Nice Haul! Harbor Freight has always been a direct importer from China fwiw. I think you get more with Texton and comparable quality. Gearwrench is even a bit nicer on some things I think too. They are usually Tiawan or China. You should do a comparison of that in a future video. I think Harbor Freight Icon is not quite the deal folks may think it is . Just a thought. The Icon are much nicer line than Harbor frieght of the last 25 yrs tho. Tekton is just a smaller importer but importing some really nice stuff and making some of their stuff in USA too. I'm a Makita cordless fan myself since 2005 I've used the same 18volt Lxt Sytem Hard ! but Dewalt and Milwaukee have lots of fans too. Makita is about to introduce their new 40 volt line which will work with all the old 18 volt stuff from the last 15yrs as well and uses a adaptor to charge 40 volt in the old 18v chargers! There is a reason why Makita never had to redesign their 18 volt Lithium system and Milwaukee and Dewalt had to. Dewalt did 3 or 4 times whjen it came put ! LOL
Also we cover it no matter what we dont ask snap on does and one the companies i worked for was was denied warranty cuz they said was used wrong it was impact socket. We dont care i wont lie i ask how just to see how well it was holding up so i can tell other customers i did have return but was used well beyond its use. But i still replace it and i only buy harbor i stand by my products
The difference is that today I could get close to what I paid for my Snap-On wrenches and sockets 20 years ago and I've been making money with them for 20 years! LOL
Some channels are pure shills . Given tools to make videos who don't even have a mechanic job or real garage. At least your buying them, trying them and actually use them for real repairs. I can respect an opinion from someone who invest their money because you took all the risk
Ha so funny, a few weeks ago I bought the icon swivel 3/8 ratchet and it was 35 bucks. I remember thinking 'wow this is quite the splurge, I'm really going all out right now.' Then ya'll buy EVERY icon tool lmfao
I think it’s funny how he said drop a comment on what we all thought for price, when he literally just said it during the intro 😂😂😂😂 uh I think 1800 dollars 😂😂
Overall, great review. You're setting yourself up for all the haters who are brand whores to Snap-On and truck brands but who cares. Every penny you save over the truck brands is more tools you can buy. Lifetime warranty is Lifetime warranty. I still have most of my snap-on tools that I bought years ago, but to get them replaced when they break is a major hassle. And it's not straight replacement with Snap-on any more either. Mostly it's repair or replace with a reconditioned piece. And its not always a direct replacement. I have a torx driver set with the long shafts and when some of them needed replaced, all that was available were the short shafts. Not the same or as useful as the long shaft drivers. Again great job guys.
I think I'm done with youtube right now. Its not your fault I've just been on for hours... guess i'll hit thumbs up for last vid I watched even though i'm only 4 mins in.
thanks for the like lol. but i'm still on youtube. Its like I have a complex where I MUST watch ALL of youtube. OH and since this isn't the last vid I watched tonight, I guess I better take my like back. Lol JK
I use HF at home snap-on at work im not a tool snob but icon just cant handle big rig work flow but to anybody just starting GET WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD just remember you get what you pay for with tools
Boys about those differences in the gear wrench lengths you'll find working in tight spaces the shorter wrench will be better of course you'll also find theyre will be times you will need something even shorter
Fyi, as long as 2 parts or 2/3 of the manufacturing process is done in a specific country, they can put "Made in xxxxx." So a tool could be made in china, but as long as certain parts are made in US. Those manufacturers can legally put "Made in USA." LV ans Gucci all out source eveything to China. There's only certains done in Italy, and they can legally put Made in Italy. Even though only certain parts are done, not made in Italy.
The only thing I'd like to see is them laser etch large numbers on the sockets and color code recessed stripes on the sockets also to mark metric/SAE. NOT skipping sizes is H U G E!!! Agree with you on the 3/4 in quality.
Hello again Overtime Garage Now that you've got the Icon tools and have been using them. Was it worth the money? I thought maybe you'd do a review etc. I 'd like to know what you think. As I need to replace my old Craftsman tools. I do have some Mac, Snap on but mostly Craftsman tools. Anything that you would do differently if you had known before buying the Icon? How do they hold up on the job.
That sounds really good, But have you broke anything to try the warranty? Is like the old Craftsman/Sears way just turning then into Sears/Harbor Freight, and getting a new tool? No hassle's? No hoops to jump through etc?
i am not going to lie but this Icon box presentation tools feels premium !!! but they are not cheap !! more expensive than Huskey,Duralast,Crafstman ..
