I Will Quit Video Games If We Lose Physical Discs... 

Hello

Wassup

Better be a man of your word Muta

Crazy.

Your mic is still bugging out btw muta. Help me make him aware of it xD

Pirated*

@@mrfoodskater depends entirely who youre pirating it from if you ask me.

@@randehmarshgames4608 I pirate from indie game developers strictly

Depends how long does it last the physical wear, tare and degredation of physical media some but not all. 😊

Nothing except data and disk rot

100%. This is probably one of the few good things that have come from digital games.

I miss my old Xbox live arcade games, licenses run out

You will own nothing and be happy

And that is why piracy exists

GOG

Older Ps2 Games have Manuals etc

@@hurricane7727 PS3 games used to as well

@@hurricane7727 Older Nintendo stuff like GBA/N64/Gamecube could have maps, manuals, posters, inserts and ads for other stuff, and even sometimes random hardware like headphones or wireless adapters

@@Rspsand07 I know that. I have a Gba but it doesn't work

The game Ogre, a computer version of the board game, came with a real radiation badge. The stickers would change color if you were exposed. First they took our manuals away, then our disks, and now you can't play unless you're online. Shame they don't make LAN games anymore.

I know. There’s so many things that digital just can’t recapture that same feeling that physical can. Looking at the back, opening up the case with the manual and disc inside, looking through the manual before you play the game. All of it is gone.

Bro that was back in the 90s and early 2000s those days are gone lol😂

​​@@dejuanhickman3175hose days are still very much here. I get games every birthday and Christmas still. So do many of my friends and their kids. Physical copies are way cheaper than digital, even at launch. I pay between £37 and £60 for games at launch while the digital versions are £60 to £120. I save a fortune over a generation.

Don't forget the smell.

eshop gift card same thing -nintendo

It'll be interesting to see how things sort out. The "biggest" games right now are free. So in an see one day even AAA titles can go free and just get funded via saas model ($12 a month) or fremium model funded by whales.

Arzzio your comment doesn't stand because by the 3rd month the game comes out they have digital and physical sells...

I do agree with you to some degree , yeah they can lock us out at any given moment, xbox 360 even if we have the 360 game disc we need internet cause the game downloads from the server. It won't play directly, and this is both on the xbox one, s , x, and series x ...

Games should legit be $40-50 BRAND new if they're digital. I don't understand how they still expect customers to pay $60-70 for a digital game when you don't have the physical copy.

It's exactly what they expect. They also expect everyone that's been enabling them so far to bend the f'n knee. As they've done so far.

In that particular case, they'll probably be replaced with gift cards.

@@Anthropomorphici just got sad thinking that instead of getting my kid a game disc in a case i gotta give them a damn gift card

JuSt GeT a GiFt CaRd

You still can give games to people

This is literally how I get video games all the way to high school. My parents always allowed me to get a game during my birthday and special occasion like Christmas. I always had such a goofy look on my face as I continuously look at the box art of the game over and over on the car ride home. It would be a shame that people can no longer experience the joy from getting a nice physical box if games were to go fully digital. I understand the convenience of it. However, nothing beats the feeling of owning a physical copy of something.

Ik I'm 3 months late but Steelbooks still exist however they lost their value seeing as game companies these days don't even ship the steelbook case with the disc inside anymore but rather give u a shitty code that u redeem on ur PSN account or Xbox Account

@@Maverick_Jones45yh this happened with Spider-Man 2

"and knowing it's for you is there." Wat 🤨🧐🧐🤨👁️👄👁️

I will soak to your chairs in love

Yes! Same goes for movies.

REAL

I agree

The market is changing you can't stop that digital is over taking physical.

@@user-ln6nr8xc7xit’s not about the discs, Batman, it’s about the jurisdiction of the discs. It’s about how game companies are allowed to kill them off and make them unavailable at their own discretion

@@celticluna1691first batch of sky nets robots are going to be tracking your location so they can come and rail you without pause for screwing that up

Or trying to save environment

I feel for you, but honestly, movie preservation is a solved problem at this point, the analog hole is unsealable.

@@accountid9681 I wouldn't be too sure on that.

There are so many websites with literally every movie tv show ect for free… hundreds..

Actually, us younger generations have things like the internet and easy access to any quality movie, but ok lol

​@@ShadowMan64572yeah he doesnt know the younger generation doesnt have the money to pay for streaming, its usually the parents that do, I know my generation was torrenting movie all the time.

Good. I hope this happens to everyone that supports digital. Without people mindlessly supporting this wicked system which takes ownership away from the consumer, companies couldn't get away with this bs because they'd go broke. So they would have to give us value or simply perish. All of this is only possible because enough people have bought into the scam and fallacies which is digital media. I hope you learned your lesson. Assuming you're not making the whole thing up. And while I do feel kind of bad because 3k is a lot to lose, in the end you only have yourself to blame. Losing access to your downloads is only one of the nasty effects of digital. There are many more. Normalization of releasing incomplete products, not owning your own purchases, not having the potential to sell or trade your media if and when you decide, being dependent on servers for access, etc. Digital would be fine if it was just an option. But they're trying to force everyone into that realm, for EVERYTHING. All their media. You will own nothing and be happy as they say.

lol who pay$ for music??

@@qna95BThere are some people who would like to support artist. I use streaming to mainly discover new music. If I like an artist enough, I’ll buy their music on CD, if it’s available.

How is that the digital media or the company’s fault… you literally forgot your password. It is your fault 100%… this is pathetic, it like someone complaining how physical goods are horrible because they lost their dvds during moving apartments.

@@qna95B Maybe those who actually care about the fidelity of their listening experience, and/or who don't want garbage advertisements stinking said experience up? That's not free.

Digital media on gaming started it back in the 360/ps3 era

​@@therealjaystone2344But there were games that didn't have digital release There are disk only games on PS3

​@therealjaystone2344 Technically, it's been around longer than that, if you look into stuff like the Sega channel from the 90s which was pretty much a 90s equivalent to Gamepass, and even on the Dreamcast which had DLC this stuff has been around for abit, just only now it's becoming more of the norme.

@@Charles-hy6gpit wasn’t really popular, it became so big during Xbox one S era

@@therealjaystone2344 Also the wii had a digital store as well.

Fax bro

You will own nothing and you will be happy - WEF

You can with disks too. OW2 for example

"buying"? More like renting. The only digitally game you will ever own is the Pirated version

Furthermore, modern games’ dependence on connecting to a online service just to run the game alienates an entire group of gamers that may be located in places with spotty/no connection.

bro just pirate the damn files. aint nobody got money to buy a bluray for every single movie we want to watch or a paperback for every book we want to read.

@@_holy__ghost and what happens when pirating site get shut down. Or what happens if the file deletes. I think it’s arguably more important to just buy it.

@@_holy__ghost As bully has said, what's your solution when pirating isn't possible? You know what is always possible? Popping in the physical copy and using the physical thing in your hands.

@@Ordealux again, nobody is saying physical media shouldnt be available, genius. im just saying its stupid to say that anyone who doesnt buy physical media is an idiot who is willing to give up their ownership rights. thats my ENTIRE point. no other implications.

@@ClonewarswarsClone sure, ill buy it. after ive already tried it (through piracy) and im 100% sure ill like it. miss me with that 'immediately buying a disk of a 60€ game only to hate it after the first hour' shit.

Tbh atleast on xbox digital games go on sale very often. Almost every digital game ive bought was while they were on sale. Sometimes ill even have like $5 dollars left on my account and still be able to buy a great discounted 360 game

Stop stealing from the corporations.

@@Underview yea those corporations employ people and contribute to the GDP. Unless you’re unemployed, a similar corporation is supporting your life. So perhaps… don’t steal from other human beings who are simply doing business.

Is that the original dvd or a pirated resale? Asking because the $15 resale price doesn’t make sense

​@@alphamineron No! It's a original copy of the game sealed. I bought the game for this price during a clearance sale

"You'll own nothing and be happy"-sinister German man Globalization and lack of regulations will be the death of humanity as we know it.

Yep, and it's happening to cash as well

You can side-step all that by only buying DRM-free from places like GOG.

Yee, fuck that shit. If that happens, then i will enjoy my older games and never look back.

Not true. This happens every time storage mediums fall out of technology. It happened with floppies... That became cartridges, and that became CDs and that became DVDs and that became BluRay... The problem is that the overwhelming majority of games are too large to fit on disc medium these days. There is also other infrastructure engineers need to consider, such as the disc reading hardware. There's a reason the PS5 with the disc tray is over a hundred dollars more. These companies save piles of money by the mere removal of a disc, they don't need a subscription model.

I miss multiple discs and mega manuals. I used to read those things front to back before I even played the game.

@@iFaFo_0 It's kind of weird how gaming companies all decided at the same time to stop making manuals. It wasn't even phased out they just vanished.

​@tdestroyer4780 if the game doesn't have a strategy guide chances are it's a soulless and empty game. That's how most games are these day's.

@@artbyddp Exactly the difference between Fallout 1 and 2, and all the others. The first ones built a dark, mature ambiance just with the music and the manuals they put in the boxes. They were literally survival guides for post nuclear times. There was nothing to laugh about, it was serious business and encountering a deathclaw was just game over.

@@iFaFo_0 The game would take an hour to install, leaving you enough time to put yourself in the proper mindset while reading.

It also has a resale value and can be used when the internet has issues or goes out. Soon I think they may get rid of downloading games and have games need an online connection at all times.

There are still very rare cases where this applies

Back then, they had to finish their games BEFORE releasing them.

@@Jukestar THIS! And yes, even back then, there were some bugs, but mostly very minor bugs. There were basically no real release disasters like Battlefield or Cyberpunk, unlike nowadays.

​@KEEYBLADE "Very minor" Vice City had a save point that would break your save. San Andreas had a mission that had a chance to soft lock your save too. But "very minor". I'm not saying this "release now, patch it later" approach is better but holy shit I am tired of this "there were no glitches" revisionism.

@@Jukestar Those are some nice rose tinted glasses you got there. LOTS of games had game breaking bugs before patching was a thing.

Even to 2009-10, sad times this past decade has brought us

There are more than a few games from the 90's that had serious issues out of the box. Some of them got fixed in revised releases (that most people never heard of), some didn't.

I blame the responsibles for making pcs digital only and the people who can buy the physical media but don’t because they can’t just unglue their fat asses from the couch and touch some grass in the way to a gamestop and related

​@@DivianceThat is true, however it wasn't as severe a problem then. Nowadays it seems almost every major release has this problem, but perhaps that's on the consumers too for being complacent over the years.

Action 52 was released in 1991. Bad broken games have existed forever, lol.

And you don't have to always be online to play single player...

​@@SegwayBosskyou don't have to be online to play the digital version as well...

@@wilsonwade6361 you have to be online to download a digital version

​@@SegwayBossk If your not online then you'll have to play the unpatched version of a broken game anyway.

@@johnbishop2536 games shouldn't be broken on an official release. Most games are usually playable day one without patches or other bs to "fix" games because they were rushed out. You probably support rushed and broken games with that kind of logic

Not to mention the worst, niche movies that still aren’t available via digital. Don’t get even me started with the censorship removal for stupid reasons.

YEH1 BRAVO mate, What they Gonna do next, Shut Down All the Cinemas, And only show the latest films on the internet. HA HAA. Joking apart, I wouldn't put it past them though my friend.

Same thing with books.

@@TheoHawk316 YEH! For sure pall, It will come Were already half way there. They killed the book when they brought out the Flipping EBOOK, Don't get me wrong useful for when on the move i suppose, But give me a physical Hardbook any day my friend. The Internet has got a lot to answer for my friend.

YEH! well said, I have 100ds and 100ds of original physical DVDs a lot of them very collectable indeed. I have been collecting them ever since i was in my 20s, I am now nearly 52 years old, good god 52 mate, and i feel it to. Just my rolling stones DVD collection is worth a fair bit, OH yes as well as having a ton of films, I also have a fab music collection. But my point is what your saying you know, From hunting that rear AWSOME find and walking out the shop with a grin on your face, To taking it home and unwrapping it, And enjoying everything it has to offer, Such as the Bonus footage or as you just said the audio commentaries, I miss all that my friend. But sadly I have run out of room anyway, I live in a 2 Bed Flat, And we have a walk in store room, YEH you Guest it mate, It is Chock a Block buddy. So i couldn't buy anymore even if i wanted. But one day we won't see Physical versions anymore, It will be all this Download CRAP. Or Streaming Rubbish, At least on good old DVDs you don't get swamped with ADDS Every few Minutes my friend.

Well Nintendo will keep physical copies

you will own nothing and they will be happy that you own nothing. that's the truth of that sentence.

The only thing that I have now that I can get physical games with is my switch. I let my PC handle all the bigger games. But yeah looking at my steam library isn't remotely as satisfying as looking at my switch collection

Okay. Majority will keep on enjoying video games anyway even if it dies for you.

@@user-tp5yb4hr4wpeople think they know that already, and that they’re okay with it, but oh boy

one thing not many people know, you can actually update your copy from someone else's switch that had already updated their game. You don't need an internet connection. Theoretically, switch can update the games version indefinitely even after the server is gone as long as there's a switch with an updated version of said game

@@goonerOZZ This does not apply to dlc however (why I think DLC backups as .nsps are crucial)

​@@goonerOZZ i remember people were doing that when smash ultimate came out nobody could get in the game

Really? I thought they started forcing them on you at a certain point

​@@goonerOZZyour thoughts on manscapped?

This is also the reason why I do not EVER spend more than 20 € for a game to play on a steamdeck, because I would not own it anyway and it would feel like a waste of money The most I've ever spent on steam is 15€ I think... ONCE

Just because made games cheaper they will not sell you cheaper

@@Kimvanloocke The point is they justified cheapening out on the cases and removing the manuals by saying it would make them cheaper, as if cheapening out on materials would somehow be a benefit to the customer. It was just another bs lie. It's like how they said games being digital would make them cheaper which was also a lie. I remember when games would launch day 1 on Steam for $10 cheaper than physical as the incentive to buy digital. Those days are long, long gone.

@@ZeredHeizien They misled, deceived or simply lied to us to get their way and get away with it its about money and greed

​​@@ZeredHeizieneck digital comic books are usually priced the same as physical comic books. Atleast with physical media and comics you have some resale value. Also have something to watch when the internet goes out. I remember I had the internet out for two days but enjoyed watching my old Blu rays and DVDs.

I can't tell you how many times I have seen a brand new game with a case that is completely shattered and holding on by a thread. Yet there's 30 year old games that haven't even been taken care of and still in better condition

You can just delete and reinstall as you wish as long as your saves or hooked up to a cloud server, unless you just have really slow or limited internet access

​@@tmoney1487 That's such a waste of time...

@@soraxstacy1477we already waste time playing games I’ve a modded Xbox 360 with every game on it took me a week to get every game on it

3 games if your luck had to delete all my games because of the switch pathetic storage capacity when totk was enough to fill the entire storage

@@Boomslayer19 same here actually. Had to delete Ark Survival because it eventually grew to the point of just outright taking up all of my storage on my laptop.

As dude who not really good with tech, I agree with you. I would love to play game offline as always online is never a thing no matter where you are. I bought RDR2 cuz I thought I can play it offline but wow, I surprise there are multiple drm that doesnt even allow me to play offline. I tried and some dude told you need actual internet connection to start the game. It sux

If you ain’t supporting it you don’t really get a say so in “not wanting it to go away”.

@@jaysony8587 I'm confused. Are you saying I'm not supporting it because I'm not buying it?

@@maxraccoon3529 well, yeah. You’re not contributing to it potentially staying alive. Wishful thinking isn’t it.

@@jaysony8587 that's kind of a dumb take on it. That's like telling someone they can't support gay rights because they're not gay, so they're not actually supporting it. That's worse than the take that movies and music goes away because people pirate it. If something is actually going away, then there can be protests and whatnot against it. My digital copies work much better for me as I'm not one who sells his collection and carrying physical copies everywhere just becomes clutter for me. And again, I'm usually only buying when it's a sale, so they're making less than they would on a physical copy

Book are a bit different since there are public libraries about. Something similar for games would be brilliant

Piracy will always exist. Once a movie is on the internet, it can't fully be removed or edited PDF files for books are also free, downloadable, and accessible offline. eBooks and paying for them is just a very risky decision in the long run

​@@Navi1LoI've noticed in my small town's library there's a whole wall of video games (granted only from ps3/wii/ds/xbox360 to current gen and not the whole library for any) and you can just borrow them from there. I hope that system ends up more popular in other libraries because it's a great idea and I've been able to get into games I couldn't have before now

Games would be seperate in my opinion. There is a legit case to make espesially for cloud gaming, the biggest one being is the consumers generally have weaker hardware and don't upgrade frequently limiting developers on what they can do. If people payed a subscription like in WoW but for a cloud based game not only could you insure that you'll have adequete hardware but you'll actually be able to increase you possibilities over time much quicker.

Also companies are starting to retroactively censor books, movies, games, etc due to ESG propaganda requirements from Blackrock and Vanguard. The Ministry of Truth is in full effect.

Same!

​@@baronvonslambertlets be honest this guy hasnt used his childhood games and they already arent working, I wanted to boot up the good old gamecube recently, yeah that console is dead. Physical media will always die very fast...

the only old thing i have is an old modded xbox where i have stored games that i could create copies of games with, but i was never given instruction's how to copy games with the console, i just know the tech has that capability.

I have a few hundred ps2 games

It’s already happened.

Godspeed, comrade.

This is the way. I've been building my game collection on the cheap lately.

just sail the 7 seas dude.

Digital games are mega cheap tho. I litterally have hundreds of games on epic game store and I payed only for 1 or 2.. Also on steam and the ubisoft one, more free games than I ever play and it cost virtually nothing.

Smh if you're gaming on consoles you have no excuse you're part of the problem.

@@joewhitlow5799 I’m on pc, you psycho…

Digital preservation is way better. Files can be put anywhere. Way better redundancy.

@@ctgaming168 muta literally says in the video how you can’t do that for many games…

@@ctgaming168 "Digital preservation is way better. Files can be put anywhere. Way better redundancy." There's far higher chance of a computer or system burning out then a physical copy. I know because take a guess which one I spend more money repairing because there's some sort of breakdown during hot summer days? Currently I can't even play games on my PC because the last breakdown was less than a year ago where my power supply didn't just burnt, but took out my graphics card and a portion of my motherboard. I got the power supply and motherboard fixed, but the graphics card is defunct. On the flipside, I have physical games from all the way back from the 90s that I can pop in and they still work.

You can do that? Wow I must learn this

@@mekhane.broken9678 ImgBurn is good for PS2 discs and anything else DRM free.

@@iaqh Plenty of people access sites that are safe and malware free for roms daily. If you're that prone to malware from rom sites, I can only imagine what's already snuck it's way onto your PC.

@@bruhtholemew The onIy thing I find safe are the surveys you have to do before downIoading stuff, because the survey means it's safe.

Physical games have resale value. You can always sell them if you don't want the clutter. Can't resell digital games.

@@davesantos1413 yeah that's just for me personally, I'm not arguing against people who like having the physical collections, I appreciate and respect the people that do and their collections

Still people have no idea about the technicallity that you literally cant hold a 200gb game on a disk/cartdrige...

@@thechugg4372 I'm sure they can make 200GB Blu-ray discs.

@@thechugg4372 did you even watch the video? a single ps5 disc can hold 100gb now. FF7 rebirth will release on two discs, which means 200GB total storage. so yes, 200GB games can absolutely come on disc

The only way I'll ever see Nintendo stop selling physical copies is if they completely run out of physical stores to sell said physical copies.

@noodleman4555 Honestly, that's a good point.

Back in the NES/SNES days, Nintendo licensed the cartridge production, so they got a cut of the production profits. Thats why they wont bail on physical media, its also part of the reason they stuck with cartridges on the N64.

they never fail to disappoint, but they also never fail to pull a 180 on the rest of the industry so we'll see

Well, pray that one point they disappoint u then.

Sadly they sell you a steel case with a download code or only basic game locking Deluxe digital only

@@Kimvanloocke yeah pretty messed up , considering for standard you get a physical. Who suggested they paying more so let's give them less in the collectors edition for Starfield

Sadly matter of time too many defend digital PS5 was rumerd to be the last disc drive console and the new version will have a removeble discdrive PS6 Digital only possibly i hope not but we have no leverage to stop them only delay perhaps when Sony loses they will again actualy cater to us

@@Kimvanloocke sigh tough times ahead, at least we had right. Feel for future gamers not being able to experience disk game if we lose it.

@@niokyn3367 yes the ones likeminded like us not the fools who think it does not affect them praising companies thinking they do the right thing until they get screwd too but by then all will be lost so much media is lost or even rebooted by haters political activists Star Wars, Star-Trek, Doctor Who, James Bond,....

If it get down to this, I'm ditching console for good and sticking to PC. Not perfect but the freedom PC gives is a lot better than what the other systems allow.

@@tigervalley62 i agree with you.

Lets see you actually follow thru i prefer my steam library for modern classic games are already on physical stop buying games that arent retro and problem solved

​@@tigervalley62real

Emulate the game then.

@alphonsejohnson5601 how is that even a argument on this topic. Ima guess Gen Z?

That makes no sense. You buy a game to play it for its content, not the box.

@@ShadowMan64572 Some people just like collecting and displaying things, is that concept really that hard to comprehend?

@@parchemiarz Most of these comments are going full anti-digital for no reason, and saying a game is more ''proper'' or has more price value because it comes in a box is false.

@@ShadowMan64572 you buy a game for its content, which you should have access to forever. discs on console are the only way to achieve that, understand? the box is a cool bonus, and it literally does add value to the product you buy.

@@treezz6798 I have access to every single digital game I own. Don't even try to bring up the conspiracy theory that aliens or some hidden technology will make digital games go poof. I have them ALL. Lmfao

I made a more in depth comment about this, however stuff like the c-bomb issue does also worry me. While the media can still be played and fully owned, console manufacturers have been proven if they want they can brick your console with planned obsolescence and take away your ability to use said media. Yes I know backwards compatibility exists, but how long will it be before it's phased out, or when consoles just go all digital?

@@hellacia8151 that is an excellent point as well.

Dude, I always open a new game and stare for a brief second before it hits me that, no, majority of games these days don’t have manuals or cool extra stuff.

You are so right I remember everybody Who bought a rockstar game with hang up the map poster or whatever every game used to come with the poster it was so sick

Im glad i grew up as a kid with liitle booklets coming woth games

@@smokedbeefandcheese4144 I still have my gta 5 and rdr 2 maps that are near impossible to fold back to how they were originally, I've moved to PC exclusively so the best I get now is a PDF file and OST for extras :(

@@lilstinker5475those maps were so fun.

This! Physical vs. digital is a smokescreen. What's important is what's offered standalone!

i mean if you arent ethical, you could easily pirate gog games and get them all for free

Reply to unethical gog. As try before you buy, fine. The whole point is to vote with your wallet for companies doing it right to stay in business. Extra unethical to shaft a company that built itself first off game preservation principles. Although, a good part of the reason it is that way, its country is home to many a privateer, so they actively had to compete with being a better service.

@@bipbop3121 no matter what, fighting piracy is impossible. its almost impossible to fight digital piracy.

Yes. Latest addition is the Yakuza Collection for a great price i got 7 games. Hundreds of hours for 33 bucks

Sure if you want to look at things as black and white with no gray.

Blame everyone who bought into streaming and steamdeck shite

I'll never get the "Convenience" argument considering it takes, like, a second to slot a disk into your console.

@@mcoupe69dude mad cause we don’t wanna have a bunch of disc in our room 😹

@@mcoupe69blaming the steam deck is odd. It’s a new console. It isn’t like it was the trend setter for this. It’s just a console made for steam which is a digital platform for the last 20 years. This isn’t black and white. Nothing is

Here Here My friend, Well said.

Well put, agreed, i always get pissed off when I see idiots defending these greedy multinational companies

Game pass is great ive owned it for years now and never have they just removed a game i adored to death and played every day. People make it sound like its INEVITABLE that digital copies of games will be taken from you when in reality its something that very, very rarely happens before you can get your fill of the game. And game pass isnt even a thing where youre paying for every game you play individually, its more or less supposed to be a place where you can try out games before you decide to buy and keep them permenantly. So its not like theyre actually taking anything from you when they remove it off game pass because you never owned that product in the first place. Furthermore they have a whole section of "leaving soon" games so its not like you dont have forewarning or just wake up one day and cant play the game.

Its shovelware if it's not AAA?

Is it though? PC wise sure but I wouldn't say having to delete all my data in order to even fit totk on the switch isn't exactly what I would call convienient

Most of These indie games have more effort put into it then most triple a games one of my favorites jprgs this year is an indie by the name of chained echoes

Damn, you do be calling every indie games shovelware products.

We are already in that world. The game isn’t on the disc anymore so I don’t get what the point is with physical (other than box art or if it’s some sort of special edition).

@@TNTITANgames are on the disc I downloaded a whole 90gb of FF16 from the disc other company's need to stop putting broken games on discs

@@TNTITAN physical media is also environmentally unsound and expensive. there is nothing stopping publishers and seller's to have EULAs that let you sell your digital ownership on (including an downloadable installer like GOG does), gamer's just need to push the point.

@@tede1838 Oh I think there is something. First off developers and publishers will want money when you sell/give away a used game. There also the second issue of what stop a hackers from all of sudden coding “great these games are mine now, the person is now coded to have given me free games”. I don’t want blockchain tech on my purchases.

if you society were to collapse we wouldn't have any physical media as everything would essentially be erased within the cloud. it wouldn't be like fallout where they had tapes and records and all manor of books and magazines and literature, even though some of it was destroyed in the atomic war lol.

Ngl I miss the extra stuff that physical media would come with. Midnight Club 3 and LA came with posters of other games and stuff like the city map or the roster of cars. It was extra stuff. I know that nowadays you can get someone to print that out for you but it was the extra effort that was cool

Yep. Game hunting is fun, at least for me. Sadly, it is not as fun nowadays. Since rarely anyone buy physical copies, the stock in stores has decreased massively compared to the past.

I only really experienced this as a child. I still agree that the experience of buying a physical game is good, but for me, it’s less that the experience was actually that good and more that I miss the way I felt when I was young and doing that.

Wow used the white emoji ofc racists 🙄

@@user-jw2ol3dq2z Bc I’m white?

​@@shaneclarke995 Intel making cheap but competitive GPUs now gives me some hope for that market. I hope their venture is enough to humble Nvidia and AMD.

@@TheAbsol7448 Provided their GPUs are even good though.

Why would there be another videogame crash? We aren't dealing with the Atari 2600 games here friend. Like most people are gonna stop buying games from Steam...

@@jcaesar19871 They are getting pretty good, actually. The actual GPU specs are great, it's the drivers that they need to keep improving.

It wiII never happen, today the gaming industry is too big to faiI, back then when the first crash happened, video games weren't as mainstream as they are today.

Having played NMS at launch and actually enjoyed it quite a bit but also having followed the drama, I feel like Hello Games' situation was probably because of the publisher. Regardless, I agree that the push to digital feels like it allows devs/publishers to sell a game without "going gold" and easily get away with paid early access of an unplayable game. ie : Release a game 3 months early in early access and still make people pay full price but the game only being fully playable or finished (content-wise) 3 months later.

@@Rafroo While that is fair and quite possibly accurate to say it was more of the faut of the publishers, it does not change the fact that NMS's turn-around "inspired" others to do the same along with the trend of digital updates being "required" to fix the base game. That was the crux of my post. I do not think it's that far off to claim that game is a big reason why we're in this mess of unfinished product in the first place. I am pretty confident that Todd Howard himself justified Fallout 76 development by directly referencing NMS even. If I ever do find that article, I will definitely edit this. EDIT: Hmm, I may be misremembering, cause the clostest I can find was an interview 4 years ago between Gamestop and Todd Howard comparing Fallout 76's launch to Destiny's launch. That specific part starts around 12:00 in that video.

No the main problem is you don't really own the digital media. Its linked to your account if you get banned you lose everything.

​@@darrenscott6982 You are arguing differet issues than what I was talking about. EDIT: Not saying you are wrong, but you are off topic.

What's old will be new again. Before you know it, those Gamecube mini-discs and UMDs will be collectors items

absolutely.

I love buying vinyl releases from artists I like (new and old) Sometimes it's a gamble going into the used bin at my local shop but overall it's a nice experience. Plus, a lot of artists also include a digital download for the album which is a plus. Am I ashamed to own the entire New Order discography on multiple formats? Maybe. Is it worth it to have a physical copy? Definitely

Physical disk in hand makes it harder to block access when taken off the streaming service. Digital copies don't save the environment when you still produce a plastic box or a steelbook to hold the download code.

Alot of movies and tv shows never made the transition from videos and DVDs to streaming services, so it's important that we hang onto these physical copies to create digital ones to preserve them from.

Agreed. Used to play a ton of MTG and I had a couple friends who only played the online version, so I got into it a bit even buying some "cards", but it was never the same as having your collection around you physically.

@@TheFos88 I've scanned some of my photos and put them online. I'm waiting for someone to try to copyright strike me and I can say "I have the original NEGATIVE, bitch!" Try that digitally.

@@ScotttheCyborgYeah lots of Physical copies nowadays hold a cardboard disk instead of a regular CD.

Did you actually expect to have some full on deep discussion about this stuff with a best buy employee lmao

@@praetorianplays9945 No I did not.

Zoomers will give you that mile long stare when you tell them their streaming website that they access their streamable media will eventually lose the license to their media and shut down

Tbf, people HAVE been speculating that regulation will come if the adoption rate is high enough that mass outrage will happen upon loss of service. Right now, digital libraries bank on you not caring about your library once the service is gone so that you re-buy your library.

You will also give them that same state when your disc breaks and you lose it anyway...

YEH!, Can you Imagine Getting a Digital Game For Christmas. You Can't Unwrap That Can you LOL.