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I wish the Nightflyer would night-fly off into a sun. Ironically. You can do better, SyFy. 

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No.
Really.
I'm not kidding.
It's that bad.
Most photos came from the SyFy / Netflix series.

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@JanRademan
@JanRademan 3 года назад
The designer missed the clear oppurtunity of making each dome spin around its own axis as well.
@michaelpettersson4919
@michaelpettersson4919 3 года назад
The look like they could and the animators just forgot....
@voidstrider801
@voidstrider801 3 года назад
@@michaelpettersson4919 Could have been budget or time constraints as well, or the animators could have forgot/overlooked that detail, the latter feels more likely.
@jangounchained5279
@jangounchained5279 2 года назад
That would deny it's centrifugal force ? Maybe ??? 🤷🏻‍♂️
@HalIOfFamer
@HalIOfFamer 2 года назад
What for tho?
@foisopracurtir6389
@foisopracurtir6389 2 года назад
@@HalIOfFamer Whynot/for completness sake(with complete = these spining cups in a amazement park)
@Jorjgasm
@Jorjgasm 3 года назад
My problem with the design was that having flat habitats on a centrifuge will lead to a sloping gravity effect inside each dome, where it actually feels like being on a hill.
@0nkelD0kt0r
@0nkelD0kt0r 2 года назад
It honestly would not be that much of an issue if the ring was larger but with a ring this small you'd have what feels like a 20 or 30° slope on two sides of the domes. Additionally I think that ring is way too small anyways. The speed you have to spin to reach 1g is too high, so the crew would likely experience cognitive and other physical problems when inside the domes.
@selectthedead
@selectthedead 2 года назад
also my first thought when I saw the flat domes
@hellothere_1257
@hellothere_1257 3 года назад
If you look at 4:30 it actually kind of look like the domes are attached to the ring via giant hinges, and are supposed to swing outwards while the ship is under thrust to be in line with the rest of the gravity. That hinge mechanism would also explain why they are only attached on one side. My guess is that this ship is a typical case where the the designers put in a lot of thought to make sure everything makes sense and gravity is consistent throughout the ship, and then the show runners just either forgot about it, or deliberately ignored it because because they thought the ship looks cooler with the domes folded in and spinning.
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 3 года назад
"And that's when I lit them on fire, your honor."
@osmacar5331
@osmacar5331 2 года назад
@@SacredCowShipyards yeup, and this is why am going to write a sci-fi novel that actually does shit right, because apparently am one of the few that damn well can, even go into the pitfalls as well, cause, even if you where to make the perfect warship, you will have bullship to deal with
@agravemisunderstanding9668
@agravemisunderstanding9668 2 года назад
Still put the domes on the back of the ship and add some kind of protection so that random bits of debris don't take out the the entire food production
@sharpfang
@sharpfang 2 года назад
@@agravemisunderstanding9668 probably if you don't have sci-fi forcefields, any shielding is futile and it's much wiser to use a "self-healing" material (say, a sticky liquid caked between two layers of organic glass, that will solidify shortly after it's exposed to vacuum), And just accept any micrometeorites flying right through, and causing some relatively easy to repair damage.
@Fluffinator129
@Fluffinator129 2 года назад
Exactly what I was thinking.
@fyrrydr4g0n
@fyrrydr4g0n 2 года назад
I kinda remember this series. Yeah, it sucked. What really killed it for me was when that probe came back full of flesh and started bleeding all over the place. After that I had to be falling-over drunk to finish it and see where it crashed.
@pancake_crab4457
@pancake_crab4457 2 года назад
Something, something. Ghost mother's personality steals a body, the flesh probe is genetically the weird scientist guy's flesh, the ship almost explodes once or twice, mother tries to escape, scientist guy takes the pod instead and travels into the alien thing and winds up back home with his family (or my headcannon is he's in a coma because he hit his head or something). It was dumb and trope-y.
@Zoie3x8
@Zoie3x8 2 года назад
"lets just keep skipping through the crazy" im totally stealing that. :D
@grayeaglej
@grayeaglej 2 года назад
This is yet another fun example of "Design by Committee", and whats worse judging by the cameras, AI issues, and so on that Committee consisted entirely of Hollywood Executives and one Art Student Intern. O.o
@SupaPoopaScoopa
@SupaPoopaScoopa 3 года назад
Regarding the front of ship, absorbing kinetic energy is highly likely to be majorly developed by the time we are exploring space with ships like that. Still though I agree, we'd still want a craft to be as robust as possible under all seen and unforseen conditions. It's almost a certainly we'd be aware of other species in space by then too... Some would argue we already know. The odds are not all other species will react friendly.
@noahdoyle6780
@noahdoyle6780 2 года назад
Oh, Battletech. I love you, but 'zenith and nadir points' aren't trojan points, and going from a solar polar orbit to the plane of the ecliptic takes a lot of ∆v. Like...A LOT.
@si2foo
@si2foo 2 года назад
too be fair the domes in some shoes look like there supposed to be able to fold out from the spinning ring at the attaching point so they could stop spinning it to switch to thrust G but they would be incon vient as hell
@alandavis5820
@alandavis5820 3 месяца назад
Basically this ship would have been much better suited as a space station than anything meant to travel anywhere but low orbit.
@eljcd
@eljcd 3 года назад
"It looks cool" For a TV show, that's all is needed, it doesn't have to make sense. The only exceptions I can think of, are the ships from "2001, 2010, and the Expanse". In novels, the reference should be the Rama series from master Clarke. By the way, suscribed. I love to be witness of a good rant, and some time has passed from the "Star Disney" movies... Oh, the rages! The hate! The betrayed feelings!...Good times.
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 3 года назад
This channel is practically a salt mine, for a variety of reasons.
@rogerwilco2
@rogerwilco2 3 года назад
No, it should still make sense in universe. If the ship doesn't make sense in the universe the story is set in, it is stupid.
@promethius357
@promethius357 3 года назад
Domes to let in the light of deep space...well, maybe they can grow food and make air when they're near Earth orbit and pointed at the sun?
@colinsmith1495
@colinsmith1495 3 года назад
I want to know why their NUCLEAR REACTOR has a COMBUSTION CHAMBER?! That's like the British reactor in the 50s or 60s that had a legit chimney!
@lanebowles8170
@lanebowles8170 3 года назад
Well, it could be a Nuclear Salt Water Rocket (NSWR), as they do have combustion chambers after a fashion. However, while I have never heard of this series until now, I very much doubt it.
@franohmsford7548
@franohmsford7548 3 года назад
Reminds me of the ships in the 1970s Sci-Fi Masterpiece - Silent Running :)
@hughsmith7504
@hughsmith7504 3 года назад
Looking at some of the shots, it looks like the domes are meant to flip out when under thrust, didn't happen, but maybe someone at least tried?
@Asgard961
@Asgard961 3 года назад
Based on the structure, it really seems like the domes would be able to flip out, but then you have a giant glass shield in front of the ship, which has all the critical, life sustaining equipment inside it.
@Cyberpuppy63
@Cyberpuppy63 3 года назад
@@Asgard961 You forgot to add-in the radar, and the magnetic - field deflector array produced as a wave front in front of the ship. It keeps charged particles, as well as in-bound metalic rocks from wrecking the ship. Or just say there's an invisible disk tether in front of the ship. It was (is) not seen by the audience, so you can go whine about something else.
@Orinslayer
@Orinslayer 2 года назад
Indeed, otherwise you'd just make a giant ring.
@judgedredd2039
@judgedredd2039 3 года назад
A ghost running around in the AI? So you are telling me that the ship has a... Ghost in the Machine... ah ah ah heh.
@brianreaver
@brianreaver 3 года назад
This ship is a "No OSHA compliance" nightmare
@gjsncr
@gjsncr 3 года назад
Yeah, the design is dubious. There should be a rotational hub in the middle of the ship. The center stack should be microgravity (unless you're under thrust).
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 3 года назад
Only one life pod? With one seat? Sounds like a 19th century White Star cruise.
@selectthedead
@selectthedead 2 года назад
I don't know if anyone pointed this out yet, but the glass on the domes is literally useless! Someone might say: But the Plants need light! Then I reply: Yeah Stupid, but they will not get it from our Sun while we travel through deepspace to a new liveform! The light intensity from a sphere like our sun decreeces by the power of 3 the further away you are, so you would nee additional lights to feed the plants enough UV Light for photosynthesis. Also why would you want it to be glass anyway!? The unfiltered cosmic radiation cannot be good for the plants as well as the gardeners.
@richardhart9204
@richardhart9204 3 года назад
Cigar or elongated seafaring-shaped space ships (no liquid water to traverse in space) with doodads hanging off them are always a bad idea. Furthermore, space is packed by the cubic millimeter with thousands of dust particles that are cruising at an average speed of 25 miles per second, so ships like the one featured in this video, traveling at least 60 miles per second to generate 1G, would either suffer constant serious damage or be completely trashed after just a few days. Google an image of the nose section and window plates of the space shuttle after just a few days in space to see what I mean.
@krispalermo8133
@krispalermo8133 3 года назад
In short, .. a 1mm cubic mass of a milligram of iron dust speck impacts with the kinetic energy of aircraft anti-tank ammo. And that shows Star Wars imperial T/I fighters have to have some form of navigation deflectors and structural integrity fields to hold itself together just taking off from Earth at 12km/8min per sec. Let alone of what ever fiction speed they are list to have from the pass thirty odd years of table top role playing games, novels, and blow bull cut away tech manuals used as fan base cash grabs.
@orange_light_pictures
@orange_light_pictures 2 года назад
So there's a Ghost in the Ai A Ghost in the Machine as you said. Now... where have I heard that before!.
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera 3 года назад
I have to correct something: Transparent aluminum DOES exist. It's not science fiction. Transparent aluminum is called "optical sapphire", or if you prefer, optically-clear corundum. It's the same stuff rubies and sapphires are made from -- Al2O3 -- but without the impurities that give those gemstones their color. It is frequently used for watch faces because it's incredibly scratch-resistant and very difficult to shatter.
@SallinKari
@SallinKari 3 года назад
Sure, but we're not really in a position to mass produce it large quantities to make large windows out of. So near future scifi stuff would be large sheets of transparent aluminum.
@noahdoyle6780
@noahdoyle6780 2 года назад
Wait, that's the bow, not some sort of fusion drive magnetic containment system? Oh.
@MoriShep
@MoriShep 3 года назад
The dare was a good call, you are good content sir
@RipRoaringGarage
@RipRoaringGarage 2 года назад
Maybe thats why my scifi failed? The title is NOT the main ships name....It could also just mean I suck.
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 2 года назад
Think of it as practice and try again.
@attackofthecopyrightbots
@attackofthecopyrightbots 3 года назад
its alright it got cancelled years ago so its fine, leave it in the dust and let it be forgotten. don't put attention to it or they'll make a season 2
@attila535
@attila535 3 года назад
Whoever desinged this things should have his/her engineering diploma revoked.
@AdeptPaladin
@AdeptPaladin 3 года назад
The domes would only be experiencing any kind of "gravitation" lateral to the rotational forces when the ship is accelerating. If the ship is simply coasting, the rotational forces would be all that is felt. It's still a dumb design to have it at the front of the ship. Or at all. The design implies they are using the sun's natural light to fuel photosynthesis.. but there's no guarantee that the orientation of travel would be towards the sun. Something, I would argue, absolutely stupid. Stars are hot and known to kick out all kinds of EM radiation to play massive fuckery with electronics. Accelerating towards a star would be like driving towards the centre of nuclear blast, you only guarantee your own death while the car's computers go nuts and prevent you from changing direction. Or worse. If the ship has enough energy to accelerate to a reasonable fraction of C, it has enough power to fuel a modest hydroponics setup, or at least simulate an internal green space with the use of UV lighting, screens for the outside view, paired to a set of hull mounted cameras to make it feel 'real'. It'd be safer, more effective, and absolutely just as conducive to mental health as that setup.
@BartJBols
@BartJBols 3 года назад
You could also have the habitation pods at 45 degrees out and accelerate and turn both at 0.5 grav. the pods would have downwards full gravity down and the ship has half gravity down.
@jonny-b4954
@jonny-b4954 2 года назад
I'd assume you wouldn't use the domes when under thrust. And you'd use them once you've thrusted up to full speed. Not that that's smart.
@kiithsomtaaw2433
@kiithsomtaaw2433 3 года назад
why the ship look like a buzzsaw for Wolfenstein the new order
@Peacich
@Peacich 2 года назад
Have you read the short story that this show was based on? I actually liked it
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 2 года назад
I confess I haven't.
@quazar5017
@quazar5017 3 года назад
"Naming the series after the ship seems to be a predominant thing in SciFi" Star Wars Episode IV A New Hope -> Death Star One Avatar -> Venture Star Stargate SG1 -> Ha'taks & Death Gliders Dr. Who -> Time And Relative Dimensions In Space Independence Day -> City Destroyer
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 3 года назад
Discovery. Deep Space 9. Battlestar Galactica. Voyager. Elysium. Serenity.
@jeebuschristos8423
@jeebuschristos8423 3 года назад
@@SacredCowShipyards Now now... Serenity was the movie... not the series...
@chrisbaker8533
@chrisbaker8533 3 года назад
@@jeebuschristos8423 Firefly, the class of the ship, was the original name of the series.
@mikestanmore2614
@mikestanmore2614 3 года назад
I can't watch Nightflyers. It aggravates me too much.
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 3 года назад
It was... decidedly unpleasant to watch. Not because of its paltry attempts at "horror", just because it was a horrible show.
@mikestanmore2614
@mikestanmore2614 3 года назад
@@SacredCowShipyards Well put!
@davfree9732
@davfree9732 3 года назад
It looks like a coring drill.
@drahcir8402
@drahcir8402 2 года назад
In BattleTech grav-decks are turned off when ships are under trust.
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 2 года назад
The Argo indicates they don't have that tech.
@NemoConsequentae
@NemoConsequentae 3 года назад
Terrible ship design in the series, but also completely unlike the one in the original movie/novel. Except for the psycho Mum/AI in the computer controlling everything. That is from the original. And really the central part of the plot, since it was the growing relationship between the 'Captain' & the passengers that set off the AI.
@TDBoedy
@TDBoedy 3 года назад
LOOK! REACTORS ARE HARD! Lifeboats? I mean in interstellar space? Mehhhhhhh. LAck of auxilliary craft - yeah that's an issue unless you never intend on landing on a planet - or just aren't doing exploration. For a spooked out hauler.liner it makes sense. Maersk cargo ships don't have a bay full of speedboats after all. They just burn their bunker fuel and get where they are going eventually. Maybe one of the faults in designing interstellar ships is assuming them to be too much like ocean going vessels - I mean the Nightflyer is basically a mishmash of concepts that aren't thought out very well. I mean the things that look stupid like the single life pod are just that way because the writer needed it to be to create the tension. Weak writing is the culprit.
@Awol991
@Awol991 3 года назад
Cargo ships are guaranteed to have the support of pilot vessels, and tug boats at all ports.
@witherwolf3316
@witherwolf3316 3 года назад
Okay so I'm horrible with physics but if there's one thing I learned from helicopters it's that if the propeller is spinning the rest of the craft wants to as well, needing the tail rotor to counter the rotation. If you were to launch a ship with one area spinning wouldn't the rest of the ship attempt to as well? We can assume they have some equivalent but I would like to see it.
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 3 года назад
I'm /sure/ this is all hand-waved away through some kind of zero-friction bearing that the rotational section is riding on, even though thrust from the non-rotational section would make that /very/ complicated. It's also plausible that the non-rotational section has station-keeping thrusters that give it the counter-torque necessary to not spin. The upshot is it's /still/ stupidly overcomplicated, only worse now.
@kedrednael
@kedrednael 3 года назад
That could be countered with thrusters. The reason helicopters need constant counter trust is also because of the air drag the blades create. If a helicopter would spin its rotor in space then the rotation would not become worse over time. If the rotor has constant rotation, the main helicopter body would as well, when you stop that main body rotation it stays like that, with the rotor still rotating.
@kedrednael
@kedrednael 3 года назад
I thought of a bigger problem: I think this craft would try to flip end over end when the domes are spinning, like this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1n-HMSCDYtM.html (dancing t-handle in zero G). This would be extremely hard to prevent with thrusters. It would need another spinning thing somewhere.
@marlonlacert8133
@marlonlacert8133 3 года назад
Sorry but you could have Squed the pooch on this on! If the domes open like a flower. Then 1g thrust would open them strait on. And close up as craft goes bellow 1g.... As for structural ability, you mostly need to look a sheering strength... ALso this sounds like the Writer cannot write worth shyte. As they took a good ship, and pooched it very badly.. As the Graphics make it clear that the domes should swing out like a flower..
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 3 года назад
Somehow never did, though.
@markfisher7962
@markfisher7962 3 года назад
Also, the glass dome thing would make ~some~ sense when they're near a source of light, but zero sense in an interstellar ship. Less than zero, actually - think of Pluto.
@Awol991
@Awol991 3 года назад
The ship design is not from SyFy, this is all from George R. R. Martin.
@kedrednael
@kedrednael 3 года назад
@SnappyJon He wrote sci-fi before fantasy, nightflyers is from 1980. Btw the holographic/robot/clone in a vat captain was even weirder in the novella.
@dalekkiller
@dalekkiller 3 года назад
As ship designs go it is a crap design. I would fear to be near the ship.
@beaker2000
@beaker2000 3 года назад
Not only was the ship design utterly stupid, the show was utterly stupid.
@bartlester1667
@bartlester1667 3 года назад
Why do people design ships like this I think it's only to make them aesthetically pleasing you know it's like one of the problems that I have with Star Trek federation ships is the bridge yes let's build this hulkingly big starship it's several hundred meters wide and long and let's put the bridge on the very tippy tippy top and put it under a dome they won't fire on that no they wouldn't dare I would if I was designing a Starfleet ship there would be no dorm on top the bridge would be completely built inside the middle of the damn ship you know why to protect it I'm sorry people do not think when they design starships for TV series they want to make them look good but they don't want to make them practical the only practical ships are from the expanse are from Babylon 5 and a few other TV series with Earth has made their ships practical with the exception of the drive system to the ships on the from Stargate ask you one they're pretty well what a standard Navy ship should look like in my opinion and why is it people want to design these massive ships and have glass where you can actually see them I'm sorry I would design a ship with no windows if you want to see outside you can turn on the screen or something because the idea of looking outside and outside of window into space is insane because you're going to possibly get killed
@jafleming0409
@jafleming0409 2 года назад
This is the kind of shit that gets thought up when you believe/impliment in diversity, equity, and inclusion hires on the creative staff.
@alaeriia01
@alaeriia01 2 года назад
You know full well that was racist. Yep, I know the dogwhistles too, and I'm calling you out on it.
@M6nst6r6
@M6nst6r6 3 года назад
Funny thing, the first ship that came to my mind, when you criticize Nightflyer at first, with actual functional design was Argo from "Battletech" and moment later you brought it yourself!
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 3 года назад
The concept can be done right-ish. This is not that.
@downix
@downix 3 года назад
I was thinking the same thing, although also had the jumpships from Battletech come to mind as well, as most feature a similar feature.
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 3 года назад
@@downix The Argo is on my list.
@truckerallikatuk
@truckerallikatuk 2 года назад
@@SacredCowShipyards Hello, this is Comstar. We would like to apologise for the misjump, the diversion of your jumpship and the jamming of your comms... etc... See "Why Tex should not write video games"
@Wildbarley
@Wildbarley 2 года назад
The reset button being in the reactor housing is like the most 40K grim dark turned grim derp thing ever.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 2 года назад
Except in 40k the solution is usually to tell techpriest "no, we can't make someone sacrifice their live to glory of Omnissiah, find another solution"... at which point techpriest would sigh and reveal that he has remote control of the reset and can do it at will\/(-_-)\/
@Wildbarley
@Wildbarley 2 года назад
@@TheArklyte 40K warp reactors are refueled by teams essentially sent to their death. Staggered of course, so that as folks melt from the reactor output the next poor sods are still slowly managing to push the fuel closer to the reactor. It’s functionally pretty similar to having a reset button inside a reactor. Lutein has a grim video about it.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 2 года назад
@@Wildbarley let me guess, another example of new lore going for retroactive grimderping? Yeah, I kind of stopped caring about GW's "official" take around 2014-2016;)
@Wildbarley
@Wildbarley 2 года назад
@@TheArklyte Star of Damocles was written in 2007 my dude. I read back on release. And it’s consistent with rogue trader lore from 90’s white dwarf issues.
@Peacich
@Peacich 2 года назад
Just send a servitor. I don't see a problem
@David-tl6lv
@David-tl6lv 3 года назад
They're clearly hinged, so my guess is that the animators didn't get the memo from the concept artist/ship designer, the writers didn't want to work gravity changes into the script, or some executive didn't like how it looked and vetoed it. Given the described plot contrivances, my money is on the writers fucking things up.
@xhagast
@xhagast 3 года назад
For something F-ed up check O'Neill space stations. In Gundam they were used extensively. They even showed what happened when they were punctured during battles.
@rogernummerdor
@rogernummerdor 3 года назад
@@xhagast Sorry man, O'Neill space stations are fine. That windstorm mess sucking people out into space is pure Hollywood lies. Even with a fairly huge hole it would take months or longer for one of those suckers to decompress to dangerous levels.
@90lancaster
@90lancaster 3 года назад
It actually looks like the design document has them tilted at 45 degrees when under thrust and 90 degrees inward when coasting and they never stop rotating the ring they are mounted on - rather than having the bass of the domes facing rearwards and the glass facing forwards and NOT rotating when under thrust... the 45 degree thing would work and but it would require almost as much annoyance to people in the domes when they change thrust state - moving the domes angle when they change course might be useful too. but that sure is a lot of moving parts. I suppose a giant armoured umbrella cold have been mounted on the front to protect the domes from radiation and such too. It looks like SeaQuest DSV and an Argo ship had a baby to me.
@xhagast
@xhagast 3 года назад
@@rogernummerdor Actually what you say makes it make sense. The time would be used to repair the hole. Making the concept viable.
@GreatGodSajuuk
@GreatGodSajuuk 3 года назад
@@rogernummerdor The only instance of a colony collapsing due to combat that I can recall was Heliopolis in SEED (a bad series) and even then it was kinda due to idiots blasting the central support structure with anti-ship weaponry until it catastrophically failed. In all other instances a hole means that people near it do get sucked out but otherwise it's just a declared emergency and everyone shelters because of ya know, the giant robots shooting eachother INSIDE the colony. Colonies themselves in UC timeline at least are so sturdy that they get used as improvised orbital impactors.
@simonmultiverse6349
@simonmultiverse6349 3 года назад
7:50 "How big is your engineering crew and how good is their life insurance?" If servicing the engines is fatal to the crew, the only crew you will get will be those with weird psychological disorders. That could make for an interesting plot.
@bjornthefellhanded5655
@bjornthefellhanded5655 2 года назад
The Imperium of Mankind has a funny solution to that Problem called Servitors
@carolynallisee2463
@carolynallisee2463 3 года назад
So, what I thought was the stern was actually the bow? That really isn't a promising start!
@seand.g423
@seand.g423 2 года назад
I mean, tbf, if they _did_ have the greenhouses in the stern... with the Drives... that would take a _Helluva_ boom, even _without_ considering reactor placement, so...
@colinmoore7460
@colinmoore7460 3 года назад
Kind of remind me of the "space garden" ships in "silent running".
@johnfairhurstReviews
@johnfairhurstReviews 3 года назад
My first though on looking at it, too
@derekp2674
@derekp2674 2 года назад
@@johnfairhurstReviews Me too :-)
@carlosandleon
@carlosandleon 2 года назад
Good movie, that
@b1gbird001
@b1gbird001 2 года назад
@@carlosandleon rest in peace little drone...
@kazoosc
@kazoosc 3 года назад
when I first saw this ship, I assumed the ring of domes were at the stern ... some sort of containment/propulsion system
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 3 года назад
That would have made so much more sense.
@alaeriia01
@alaeriia01 2 года назад
Same.
@Krahazik
@Krahazik 3 года назад
Never seen the series. But looking at the pictures of the ship, wow. Love your review and i would agree. Compress that ship into a cube and recycle?
@johncunningham4820
@johncunningham4820 3 года назад
IF , big if , the Domes could gimbal outwards , like a Daisy Wheel , and the Rotation reduce , the system could work . Reset Button INSIDE the Engine . Obviously designed by a Shiny Arse , rather than an Engineer . L O L !
@ShadeSlayer1911
@ShadeSlayer1911 2 года назад
That reset button was clearly designed for a dramatic character sacrifice.
@fuzkek9135
@fuzkek9135 3 года назад
This is even worse than you think, that spinning section wouldn't just spin by itself. It would impart an opposite motion to the rest of the ship, so you'd have the whole thing counter rotating. Eeeeeven better still, bodies with spinny bits with uneven distributions of mass, in zero-g 'flip'. (video from the ISS showing this funky effect: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1n-HMSCDYtM.html) Suffice to say, the ships design wouldn't make it out of earth orbit. (well perhaps as a debris cloud maybe)
@Thurthof5
@Thurthof5 3 года назад
when spinning up the ring, the ship would probably negate its rotation by firing rotational thrusters. But this reminds me of the Avalon (Passengers, 2016): in the film, when power fails, the ring stops rotating (why would he?) and gravity in the ring section drops to zero instead of just dopping slighly because some momentum would go to rotating the shaft of the ship.
@energeticcreeper7969
@energeticcreeper7969 2 года назад
i imagine it will make it out of earth orbit, just not in the direction it's supposed to
@Awol991
@Awol991 3 года назад
Epic fails are many. They are afraid of dark matter but have no problem cruising through the corona of a star at full speed. They can slow down enough to land on a planet and speed up again, but needed a star for a gravity assisted speed boost.
@gaius9240
@gaius9240 2 года назад
I’ve never seen the show but I’ve read to story by George R Martin and I thought you enjoy a few details from the story that may not been covered in the show. The ship was custom designed by that crazy lady who infected the ai of the ship. Maybe this explains some of the nonsense features. The person leading the expedition to meet the new race was considered kinda a cook if I remember correctly and did not have a lot of funding which was why this weirdo ship was chosen! Thanks for the amazing content! Keep up the great work
@agravemisunderstanding9668
@agravemisunderstanding9668 2 года назад
I love how this sci-fi ship that basically represents the whole of humanity, has reactor design, safety and management at the same level as Chernobyl.
@nicholasvogel9783
@nicholasvogel9783 2 года назад
when I first saw this ship I honestly thought it looked amazing, then I went what do you mean those aren't mining drills on the front.
@danamoore1788
@danamoore1788 3 года назад
The domes are. . . cute. I get the general idea it has been suggested before. Nice clear domes so sunlight comes in for the plants. This would be great if this was a space station in a specific orbit somewhere. Normally I see a video trashing a scifi ship I want to argue. But this sounds like a train wreck. No a train wreck would probably be a more sound design.
@xbrsq
@xbrsq 2 года назад
Yeah. At least a train wreck originates from a good design.
@nobodyimportant2470
@nobodyimportant2470 3 года назад
If the ship was shrunk down and the domes replaced with cutting heads I might see the design as an asteroid mining ship but even then it wouldn't be a very good one.
@alankohn6709
@alankohn6709 3 года назад
1. Mummy please make the bad ship go away. 2. The captain in the tube reminds me of the 'Ship that Sang' books not a bad read. 3. Holy mummy issues Batman what's this Evangelion
@colinmoore7460
@colinmoore7460 3 года назад
2. The brainship books by Anne McCaffrey.
@alankohn6709
@alankohn6709 3 года назад
@@colinmoore7460 thank I could not for the life of me remember the series name
@arcadiaberger9204
@arcadiaberger9204 3 года назад
What it reminds me of is the *_Valley Forge_* from *_Silent Running,_* one of the few SF spacecraft which is more *_BADLY_* designed than the *_Nightflyer._*
@adriansue8955
@adriansue8955 3 года назад
Knowing Nothing about this Show. Just looking at the ship, visually it reminds me of Valley Forge from "Silent Running". With the domes inverted. I wonder if the design is an homage. Hmmh, that one might be worth tearing into at some point. I assume Valley Forge had some kind of space magic gravity generation...
@colinmoore7460
@colinmoore7460 3 года назад
Who designed it? Clearly a descendent of the guy who designed TITANIC.
@jasonshirrillmusic
@jasonshirrillmusic 3 года назад
or std the Discovery is pretty stupid looking with all the holes
@wilemelliott
@wilemelliott 3 года назад
Good centrifuge designs in Dream Pod 9's "Jovian Chronicles" where they are gimballed to reorient while under thrust [and rotation is stopped for that]
@JasonGillmanJr
@JasonGillmanJr 3 года назад
Also... how long are their trips? I mean, newtonian physics fuckery aside, you run 1G for a year and you're gonna be hitting C
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 3 года назад
If I remember right, it took them ~9 months to get out to where the Volcryn were passing by. No attempt was made to flip-and-burn to decelerate and match ET's speed, though. So, basically, Einstein would have been a right proper /bitch/ by then.
@capscarlett7859
@capscarlett7859 3 года назад
Those rotating domes are going to be a bitch when flipping.
@spankeyfish
@spankeyfish 3 года назад
Earth Force destroyers remind me greatly of the Leonov from 2010: The Year We Made Contact
@AlhazredsGamingGoo
@AlhazredsGamingGoo 3 года назад
Supposedly, the artist who designed the Omega-class destroyer copied the Leonov's rotating section as a joke expecting someone to notice it, have a chuckle and change it, but no one did.
@Krahazik
@Krahazik 3 года назад
With that outtro statement, have you ever played Star Citizen. Might be fun to hear your thoughts on some of those ships. Morphologus does reviews on Star Citizen ships, but he's comming at them from an architectural background. Might be fun to have the opinions from a navy background.
@Hoigwai
@Hoigwai 2 года назад
I'm just thinking of the structural stress of having combined forces on the supporting arms of those domes. I see them snapping off in a catastrophic way.
@earlware4322
@earlware4322 2 года назад
Absolutely. This monstrosity should have torn itself into a million pieces the first time they fired up the engines with the domes (and the ring they're attached to) were spinning. (Or thw other way around.) Whether the domes were extended outward or not.
@timogul
@timogul 3 года назад
I was completely unaware of this series, but god, that is an awful ship design by any stretch. Even if for some reason I *wanted* to do that mess on the front end in a somewhat plausible way, I would have had a Secondary ring in front of it that the domes were locked into on the other side, and then some sort of an impact shell in front of that, protecting the entire ship from things in front of them. The domes would be designed to spin around that center while the ship was free floating, but would rotate on their own axis to face forward when in burn. It would be like a really massive Ferris wheel. I guess there is some point to that, if you really wanted to maintain gravity regardless of speed, but chances are you would still lose proper gravity fairly regularly due to necessary changes in speed and course.
@Voltaic_Fire
@Voltaic_Fire 2 года назад
"What if we hit a micro asteroid, Captain?" "Don't worry, we've got glass in the sideways gardens, I hear that's pretty tough."
@katenunyabizness9221
@katenunyabizness9221 3 года назад
So essentially it is part Valley Forge, Red dwarf, discovery one, made out of unbeleivabulium...
@sebbes333
@sebbes333 2 года назад
10:45 -ish. Why not dump biohazards through the combustion chamber of the engines? Instant incineration, instead of semi active whatevers floating around near the ship. Yess, it could be a structural weakness... (like everything else on the ship already isn't? ;P ) but you could construct it somewhat like torpedo tubes on submarines, where the ocean can't flood into the submarine. similar the "engine plasma" (or whatever) can't flood into the ship that way.
@shayminthedoctor9663
@shayminthedoctor9663 2 года назад
Jesus Christ, I thought you were joking when you said I could better. I legitimately could make a better sci Fi universe than this holy *shit* Don't even wait the 24 hours before cubing this one, you'd be doing them a favor.
@parandiac
@parandiac 3 года назад
I’ve never heard of this show/ship, but it looks fantastically dumb. So since you mentioned unobtanium, which version was better: The Core or Avatar?
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 3 года назад
At least in The Core the unobtanium actually gets used, which, granted, is damning with faint praise. It looks like the Avatar version is a room-temperature superconductor that basically explains... all of their available technology, but that's never actually articulated in the movie. I do like how the Rebel Galaxy game has "obtanium", though. As the flavor text goes, "apparently it wasn't that hard to find after all".
@whirledpeaz5758
@whirledpeaz5758 3 года назад
What's the point of a transparent dome over a hydroponics section when it's artificial lit and you are out of range of star light for the plants?
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 3 года назад
"Reasons."
@Fix_Bayonets
@Fix_Bayonets 2 года назад
No surprise that George RR Martin was the writer who specializes in medieval stories. Also the "Designer' is the the evil woman trapped in the ships computers.
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 3 года назад
When space sci-fi so blatantly ignores physics, it turns me off immediately. I can forgive a little "I guess so" in the depiction, and even miracles lite artificial gravity over this turkey.
@foisopracurtir6389
@foisopracurtir6389 2 года назад
By 8:30 I'm strongly suspecting that it isn't a ship, it's a overcomplicate offering dish to some supernatural entity
@theldraspneumonoultramicro405
@theldraspneumonoultramicro405 3 года назад
the design is *PURELY* for the sake of someones idea of "cool" oh, and lets not forget "plot" thats why you find a reset button for the engines inside the engines instead of in the engine room related to that particular engine, thats why you see ships in series and movies have fail safe features and various other vital features located inside the deadly reactor instead of outside it where its not deadly, thats why there is no protective gear to protect the crew when they have to go inside on a guaranteed suicide mission so they can save the ship, it's all down to terrible writing as they attempt and fail hard in creating a "dramatic" scene where someone has to sacrifice themself for everyone else.
@captainstroon1555
@captainstroon1555 2 года назад
It's sad that there went a lot of thought into the design to make it look realistic but it all falls flat because filmmakers are apparently allergic to understanding physics.
@SacredCowShipyards
@SacredCowShipyards 2 года назад
All too common a problem.
@DS2CV
@DS2CV 3 года назад
What is the point of the transparent domes? If they're to get starlight for greenhouses, then the glass parts should face outward, right? Why do they face one another? 🤷
@RetroRobotRadio
@RetroRobotRadio 3 года назад
I believe in the novel the ship was built by the captain's mother. She created a sex switched clone of herself to be her partner/son. That is the current captain.
@agravemisunderstanding9668
@agravemisunderstanding9668 2 года назад
The only way they could get away with this is if the domes only rotated when the ship wasn't under acceleration, like in orbit or in a just floating along at a constant speed, oh wait you mentioned that
@berserkasaurusrex4233
@berserkasaurusrex4233 2 года назад
This show sounds like someone read Revelation Space but skipped around a lot.
@darrenpaches3731
@darrenpaches3731 3 года назад
Nightflyer "Look at the domes I have." STARLOST "Hold my beer..." (1973 CTV)
@gawainethefirst
@gawainethefirst 3 года назад
SILENT RUNNING “Hold my granola…”
@tomhoni9642
@tomhoni9642 3 года назад
is plot gravity a thing yet? ^^
@SlinkyTWF
@SlinkyTWF Год назад
Against my better judgement, I watched this series. A couple or so decades ago, there was a low-budget film called Nightflyers which was based on the same story by George RR Martin. It sucked as well. Martin should stick with fantasy.
@Tristan3D
@Tristan3D 2 года назад
Also: I would only use windows to let light in, when I am 1.) Being near a bright lightsource and angled to catch all that light (like with a star), or 2.) Don't have fusion to light my own candle. So this makes truly no sense: Having glas domes rotating in this manner instead of a Torus that is directly perpedicular to the centrifugal force (like with an O'Neill Clyinder) is supoptimal to say the least. Having actualy domes on an interstellar spaceship, that spends most of its travel time far away from any pertinent lightsource that could shine through the domes, makes no sense. I mean, sure, it's sci/fi, but this is a weak argument because: Even sci/fi should adhere to the most basic principles of physics. It's ridiculouse much like it is with the TV show "The 100", in which they travel with an interstellar spaceship to other starsystems to do what again? Oh yeah, to "drill for oil", because "Earth is bone dry". Okay... so they build a fusion engine to get oil from another starsystem. That checks out. ;) Apart from the fact that Titan has whole lakes of hydrocarbons, which dwarf every oil deposit Earth ever had, it makes no sense to create a fusion drive (and let's be real here: When you have a drive on board, and assuming you are not using antimatter or something equally exotic, then they have to use fusion to go to other starsystems roundtrip style in less than 140 years) just to get oil from distant stars. So, I would say: The TV show "The 100" should be your next target for a new video :)
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 года назад
Speaking of Thrust gravity, maybe some battletech stuff? The Egg carriers, the special ship from the HBS videogame (I imagine you'll be annoyed at the gravity blocks being complicated on hinges, those things failing actually can be a random event you get), or the Leopard and how so many video games give you a Leopard and forget it TOO has only thrust-gravity? Oh holy shit you actually do cover the HBS Argo!
@ericblevins6467
@ericblevins6467 2 года назад
Ironic. Fox squashed the best space series ever made (can't really call 'Firefly' science-fiction)...and SyFy runs with this nonsense? This series made SG1 seem like the acme of logic and reason, which it was not, though it was a decent enough series...I suppose. I guess I never really got used to McGyver pretending that he was Kurt Russell.
@TrogdorBurnin8or
@TrogdorBurnin8or 2 года назад
You could have a nice landscape in the domes of terraced cliff-side city, like Morocco, Hong Kong, or Pueblo Bonita. Spectacular views. It would be interesting if the doctors eventually dictate that you have to achieve 1G average gravity, but also had portions of your ship that would require manning in microgravity, so people rotate in and out. I maintain that the primary thing you have to account for with 1G thrusting vehicles is whether the universe incorporates their status as projectiles of mass destruction, as planet-killers. "If everybody has this tech, and can achieve relativistic impacts with ease, how are there any inhabited planets left?"
@mackenziebeeney3764
@mackenziebeeney3764 2 года назад
Major spoilers!! When I realized it was using thrust gravity and rotational gravity **at the same time** I had the exact same thought about where the floor would be in those. Namely that it was rotating *while under thrust* I don’t know what those rotating elements are made of but they are nigh indestructible for how much shit they get put through. I do like the creative undermining of expectations the first scene made it look like a typical survival series and the one dude goes crazy and kills everyone. And then the artificial hologram made me think he is the ships AI and is dealing with other shit but then he’s a person and his mother is the problem AI but then he’s an Android but then he’s a test tube baby and the show just really subverts expectations in a really interesting way. I do have complaints though. Several. The domes at the front are one. The crazy AI meter hijacking the physical body of someone is like ???? How tf?? Even an artificial organic approximation of a personality should not be able to do that, let alone a computerized software program, idgaf how advanced it is. I could buy that the tech Lonnie can die if she’s unplugged, I can buy that since it is her brain interacting with the computer, that can be traumatic at best and brain damaging or destroying at worst. But the computer hijacking the organic makes no sense.
@jasonshirrillmusic
@jasonshirrillmusic 3 года назад
Typical of today's movies that are total nonsensical bullshit it reminds me of the beginning of Aliens 1986 when LT. Ripley says to the inquest board "What ", did IQ's just drop sharply wile I was away"? it seems that nobody reads or reviews or even sits down and brain storms in any scientific and logical manor beyond "Oh that's sound cool let's run with that". This is why today's movies and TV show suck and are only vehicles for political morality lectures telling us that we all wrong instead of good stories that entertain us. fans are abandoning beloved franchises in droves because of the woke and non cannon bullshit forced down out throats as if we are all total morons that cant realize that we are being fed a bunch of shit.
@CuAnnuvin
@CuAnnuvin 2 года назад
Mech-Warriors: Yay, Argo! Maintenance Crew: Who the actual eff designed these stupid ass, hinged living area pods!
@Tristan3D
@Tristan3D 2 года назад
There is more stuff in interstellar space than you'd imagine. Actually, whole starcluster masses of material flies between the stars. It's not a lot of stuff flying freely around like in a planetary sytem, but it's enough that, if you travel with a significant percentage of the speed of light, it would accumulate. Even just one hydrogen atom per squaremeter would add up to tons of hydrogen colliding at relativisitc speeds with the hull of your ship after just a few hours of travel. The friction would turn it into a plasma and it would spew out terawatts of radiowaves in the direction of travel. So, yeah... very bad news for the domes in front of the ship. They're pretty much done... they get grinded down.
@tonygreenfield7820
@tonygreenfield7820 8 месяцев назад
Oddly enough, this version of the Nightflyer is its second incarnation. There was a movie version of the story long before the series was made. The ship design was completely different although no better in terms of aesthetics. It looked like a partly melted flatiron with the handle removed. The movie was much better than the series however.
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