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I Wore 18th-Century Clothing *Every Day for 5 YEARS & This Is What I Learned (Corsets Aren't Bad!) 

Abby Cox
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I wore 18th-century women's clothing, all day, 5 days a week, for 5 years of my life. Over those 5 years, I learned a lot about my body, fashion in the 1700s - the good and the not so good, and how we can take these lessons and improve modern fashion.
**Trigger Warning: I do talk about body image in this video (as a reflection of my own, long, long journey with my own body & how wearing historical clothing has given me a different perspective on body image) which may or may not be upsetting for some. **
*Ok, so not "every day" but you get the idea...😉
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A lot of these photos of me were taken by the lovely Fred Blystone. You can see more of his photography here: / 1366436863373421
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We like to assume that the people in the past are "stupid" (it's normal human behavior), and one of the ways that we, as a modern society, do this is by judging the past for their fashion trends and practices. We've been taught to demonize corsetry (or in this case, stays) for being restrictive and a tool of oppression towards women, and take pride in our culture of diet and exercise, without considering the issues that can be found in our body-obsessed culture. We praise jeans and a t-shirt, as being "comfortable" but the insecurities that so many of us have about our bodies are put on display in our 21st-century uniforms. We take for granted our modern homes, and how that has made us lazy in dressing for the seasons, resulting (in part) the loss of various types of textiles and weaving technology. I learned a lot over those 5 years, including how to indulge in an Indian Buffet while wearing my 18th-century stays, and I'm excited to share my insights with you. Also, can we just discuss how stupid modern underwear is?? 😉
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*Summer Dresses, 1783, Object Number - J,5.139, Asset Number - 79588001 © The Trustees of the British Museum. www.britishmuseum.org/collect...
*Sheer Cottton Mull Italian Gown, 1780s, The Metropolitan Museum of Art, 17.107.6a, b, www.metmuseum.org/art/collect...
*Kofta, 1760s-90s, Nordiska Museet, NM.0186311, digitaltmuseum.se/01102369100...
*Women 1790-1799, Plate 052, Fashion Plate from August 1796, The Metropolitan Museum of Art Library Costume Institute Fashion Plate Collection, libmma.contentdm.oclc.org/dig...
*Robe a l’anglais c. 1780, The Metropolitan Museum of Art, 1982.291a, b, www.metmuseum.org/art/collect...
*Attributed to Isaac Cruikshank, Cestina Warehouse or Belly Piece Shop
April 16, 1793, The Metropolitan Museum of Art, 59.533.475 www.metmuseum.org/art/collect...
*Stays, The Metropolitan Museum of Art,
2009.300.3330a-d
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*The Bum Shop, Attributed to R. Rushworth (British, active 1785-86), July 11 1785, The Metropolitan Museum of Art, 1970.541.12, www.metmuseum.org/art/collect...
*Chemise, 1780-1800s, The Metropolitan Museum of Art, 2005.368 www.metmuseum.org/art/collect...
*Corset, 1880s, The Metropolitan Museum of Art, 2009.300.3497a-c
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@AbbyCox
@AbbyCox 4 года назад
Hey Everyone! 👋🏻 Thank you all so much for taking the time to watch this video about my experience! I've noticed a lot of the same questions in the comments, so I want to take a minute to answer them here - 🎉UPDATE (Sept 27, 2020) - I've answered your questions about menstruation here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iV2TgwjjhOE.html 🎉UPDATE (June 7, 2020) - I've taken the most commonly asked questions from the comments and have done a video to answer them! You can watch it here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SN3agbKZVP0.html - My stays (18th-century term for a corset) are from redthreaded.com/ - they're a fantastic historical corset company that I adore. (and for the couple of you trying to call me out - my 100% hand-sewn, me-made, reproduction stays are so worn out that they're in retirement, and just because I can make stays by hand doesn't mean I have the time. I'd also rather support a small business that I believe in.❤️Finally, the gown I'm wearing in this video was cut to go over those stays, but if you'd like to see my hand-sewn reproduction stays in action you can buy the book I co-wrote here: www.american-duchess.com/book/american-duchess-guide) ☺️ - While I haven't gone down the menstruation research rabbit hole (cause it is its own subject of study) I am going to do my best with limited access to primary source documentation (which is what I really need to be able to answer this question) to produce a video about what 18th-century women would do. I don't know when this will be, but I will do my absolute best to answer this question, and if I can do some experimental archeology in the process, I will. 😎 (ravenclaws gotta ravenclaw...) - Thigh chafing - so I think that varies from person to person. I never really had a lot of issues with it (and my narrow hips mean that I will never have a thigh gap) because my linen shift would always kind of end up between my leg and absorb the sweat. However, I know a lot of costumers who will wear split-crotched drawers because they find it more comfortable, even though drawers weren't a thing in the 18th-century. Ok! I hope this helps answer some of your questions! Thank you all so much for watching and engaging in this video. I really can't tell you all how much I appreciate it! ❤️
@nette9836
@nette9836 4 года назад
I'm thrilled I came across your channel and enjoyed your historical fashion insights. Thank you so much!
@ericawright411
@ericawright411 4 года назад
Thigh chafing - I use my hair powder as body powder for my underarms and inner thigh and it really helps prevent chafing.
@SavannahBurdick
@SavannahBurdick 4 года назад
The top link for red threaded, is not working when I try to click through.
@makakowsky7042
@makakowsky7042 4 года назад
Great video! You mentioned incorporating the best aspects of this style into modern day clothing. What im most curious about is from your experience what do you feel would be the best aspects of 18th century style to incorporate into modern day clothing? P.s. Go Ravenclaws! 😀
@mrshumancar
@mrshumancar 4 года назад
Abby, thank you so much for this video - can I please ask you more about the shifts. If it's not too personal, does it ever bother you with discharges? Or what about during your period? I use pads, because they don't sell tampons where I live but modern underwear is so not for me because of my sensitivity issues. I want to "shift" (sorry for the pun) to more looser undergarments because I hate bras but I'm just wondering how shifts deal with things like discharge and period stains. Thank you! Edit: Also, HISTORYBOUNDING IS SUCH AN AWESOME IDEA!
@crimson3532
@crimson3532 4 года назад
People: she must of been so uncomfortable Me with back pains: man she must have been really comfortable
@fabielimueller2151
@fabielimueller2151 3 года назад
YES!!! It's my dream to have a corset made specially for me to help back pain and posture.
@crimson3532
@crimson3532 3 года назад
Fabieli Mueller I didn’t know those were a thing I’ll look into those, my main goal right now is to put cups on my corset for the extra support
@jessieboo713
@jessieboo713 3 года назад
Haha me too im like i bet that feels good for your back 😂😂😂
@agees924
@agees924 3 года назад
Same. I made a corset and wear it sitting at my desk. Instant back relief it’s amazing.
@MsSavvy9
@MsSavvy9 3 года назад
Really interesting point... I have pretty extreme scoliosis and I hate my back brace, but it does the job... this might be a better solution. 🤔
@katelijnhovestad8382
@katelijnhovestad8382 3 года назад
Ladies and gentlemen, the RU-vid algorithm has brought us together once again
@mellymel8474
@mellymel8474 3 года назад
Too shay:)
@erikguevara4504
@erikguevara4504 3 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣😅
@maleahjacobs9678
@maleahjacobs9678 3 года назад
😂 yup
@aaanisia
@aaanisia 3 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I was just wondering about that. But it's a great encounter everyone.
@cherryphoenix8134
@cherryphoenix8134 3 года назад
Hey guys.. good to see you here 🤣
@winterfire1376
@winterfire1376 3 года назад
the standard of beauty has moved from clothes to our body
@marzzarella2770
@marzzarella2770 2 года назад
@@Sputterbugz Well back then the fashionable silhouette was the shape but not really the size. Like they didn't really care about whether you're skinny or plus-sized since the focus of the ideal is the shape (like conical or hourglass). I think Abby did a video on this topic as well.
@abbyaustin1804
@abbyaustin1804 2 года назад
I know it was so much better back then
@cor3944
@cor3944 Год назад
NowadaysI don’t see beautiful bodies on the beach, sorry.
@torzimay
@torzimay Год назад
@@cor3944 Every body has beauty, the problem must be your perseption. Or you were just looking at an empty beach.
@vshcvsh98
@vshcvsh98 Год назад
@@torzimayyou have a beautiful soul ya know, you said that quite perfectly.
@Sunny-kl8wy
@Sunny-kl8wy 3 года назад
Me: How did I get here? Also me: I need a corset, linen and wool
@PowerOfLoveTarot
@PowerOfLoveTarot 3 года назад
I want a corset soooo badly
@jenniferelizabeth3996
@jenniferelizabeth3996 2 года назад
Same 😂 I just found this video and I feel like okay can we just go back to dressing like this now? Like please? 😆
@terrijuanette486
@terrijuanette486 3 года назад
When I learned (months and months ago) that shifts and camisoles were worn UNDER the garments that had boning, I began wearing camisoles UNDER my underwire bras. OMG, what a game changer! They no longer hurt!
@joyuna
@joyuna 3 года назад
OMG, I need to try this.
@deborahduthie4519
@deborahduthie4519 3 года назад
I didn’t know that. I stopped wearing bras because of where the wires came to for the size I needed and they’d leave rubbing scars, that were like birthmarks under my armpits. Since going commando, have dissipated. My daughter has a big bust too this’ll will be passed on to her, maybe she’ll find comfort in a simple cammy under her painful wire bras.
@sungbokbessell7853
@sungbokbessell7853 3 года назад
Yes I do this too! I’m so happy I’m not the only one.
@KvDenko
@KvDenko 3 года назад
🤯🤯🤯🤯
@maggiemakgill
@maggiemakgill 3 года назад
I've done this too ... wisdom from the past. 20th-21th century woman are probably the only women in history who routinely wear their shaping/support garments against the skin and they're all made of plastic! I think I lot of the reason women assume corsets/stays are uncomfortable is because bras leave marks and are sweaty sweaty so we assume ... huge bras must be worse right? But because of material differences, shifts, not having shoulder straps and how force/pressure works when you increase the area ... it doesn't work out that way ... The house I live in tend to be cold so I have learned the value of a thin, breathable light under layers for warm and also re-discovered the laundry benefits of that!
@laeggerichs1
@laeggerichs1 3 года назад
I like how you touch on how we in the 21st-century look at corsets as repressive, yet we do many things to our bodies that are far more repressive and controlling and trying to fit into an that very few actually can.
@KAMCmom
@KAMCmom 3 года назад
Agree. Though RU-vid did make me laugh/groan when that section concluded and a commercial for Lean Cuisine was inserted before the next portion of the video. Humorous airony right there. LOL
@kosaragolemshinska
@kosaragolemshinska 3 года назад
Personally, I can't wear underwire bras. I must have tried dozens upon dozens of types and designs but they always sit uncomfortably or straight up cause me physical pain. Luckily, I found bras with an elastic support band, which are actually perfect for me.
@tink6225
@tink6225 3 года назад
@@kosaragolemshinska bralettes are also a good alternative
@nancyanderson2032
@nancyanderson2032 3 года назад
oh yes i had anorexia at 14 b/c i thought i was fat.
@suzan1mal
@suzan1mal 3 года назад
Agreed! I hadn’t really thought it through until I just watched this. Mind blown. 🤯
@MeekaChannel
@MeekaChannel 3 года назад
Girl why are you low key convincing me to wear historical clothing on a daily basis Lol
@Nemokiddy
@Nemokiddy 2 года назад
Same!
@carriemooney6177
@carriemooney6177 2 года назад
Me too lol
@conclavecabal.h0rriphic
@conclavecabal.h0rriphic 2 года назад
^^^ You guys should wear whatever you want, whenever your heart desires. If that’s historical dress on a daily basis, do it!
@nicholelejeune3503
@nicholelejeune3503 2 года назад
Well now that cottage core and regency core are now a thing… I’m 🙏🏻 we’ll start seeing more historical clothing popping up in everyday life
@dntskdnttll
@dntskdnttll 2 года назад
It’s a goal for so many of us watching these videos. Personally I intend to start sewing and learning how to make these things, because not only is ready-made historical clothing too expensive for most people, but size options make it impossible. People in the past made their own clothing (the wealthy had it made for them) so it was always tailored to them…Another foolishness of modern clothing.
@leod161
@leod161 3 года назад
society: "corsets are uncomfortable and torturous" bras: *blackmails people into keeping quiet about them*
@xylypotatohead3947
@xylypotatohead3947 3 года назад
I never wore a corset but it can't be worse than a bra honestly
@Cantmakeupmymindonaname
@Cantmakeupmymindonaname 3 года назад
@@xylypotatohead3947 oh they are so much better. All of my bras have wire jabbed me, but i only had one corset hurt and i bought it at a halloween store (didnt jab me but the entire thing started twisting, only wearn twice)
@Shay45
@Shay45 3 года назад
@@xylypotatohead3947 Corset were made to fit your body individually. Bras aren’t made like that unfortunately. That is why they were more comfortable
@positivelyme5605
@positivelyme5605 3 года назад
Exactly. I’ve never heard of a corset stabbing anyone lol
@Cantmakeupmymindonaname
@Cantmakeupmymindonaname 3 года назад
@@positivelyme5605 stab, not really but if you do get the wrong size (i.e. too small) or bad boning (also usually the wearers falt) the boning can slid into your ribs and get stuck or break your ribs (but if you ask the rib breakers what they were doing,I'm sure they will say bending over to pick something up)
@user-bb8us3tm1v
@user-bb8us3tm1v 3 года назад
The whole segment about how modern clothes aren’t made for mental comfort was so body positive and inclusive and it made me feel so good about myself 🥺💕💕💕
@hemmmm845
@hemmmm845 3 года назад
I was thinking the same thing! It was such a nice surprise
@user-bb8us3tm1v
@user-bb8us3tm1v 3 года назад
haleymalinvernomusic it really was!
@bobbyc.1111
@bobbyc.1111 3 года назад
what do you mean aren't meant for mental comfort?
@Antiikkikauppa
@Antiikkikauppa 3 года назад
@@bobbyc.1111 Historically, your clothes made your silhouette. Nowadays our body makes the silhouette and it's up to the latest beauty standard who looks good in what and who doesn't. Our body is on display all the time because modern clothes have no structure
@elaineabreu282
@elaineabreu282 3 года назад
@@Antiikkikauppa very interesting! You are right, before if you wore the right foundation garments, well you looked like everyone else for the most part. The material, style might be judged but not the person persay. Now it's her body is ugly instead of her dress is ugly.
@carlystorrer8272
@carlystorrer8272 4 года назад
I remember when the live action Cinderella came out and everyone was freaking out over her waistline. They figured they either used CGI to shrink it down, or they corseted her so tightly that her waist was minuscule. I just kept thinking 1) Her waist is pretty small anyway so of course the corset she’s wearing will bring it in more. 2) The skirt had a crazy amount of volume so the optical illusion is of course going to make her look tiny. The lack of common sense was crazy to me, even before I knew anything about the reality of corsets and historical dress.
@justanotherpotato5386
@justanotherpotato5386 4 года назад
She's out of breath a lot in the ball scenes, whereas she looks comfortable with her maid costume. So tight lacing and no seasoning for the ball scenes? Dunno
@alexandersmith4731
@alexandersmith4731 4 года назад
*I'm correcting my statement here a bit, after reading so many news article that confronted Lily on her waist, she didn't do the liquid diet for a long period of time, she did them when she was wearing a corset, keep in mind too the shooting and photoshoot with the gown on is not just a 2 days thing,, the lead costume designer also makes her wear that corset everyday, as they thought it was a ritual, while it's not in a long period of time, she does state she can only have soup when she is in that ball gown, so my apologies on that part, but I am still not wrong on my other statements* She even looks out of breath in many of the scenes(despite her masking it with her expression), as shown in her collarbone and heavy breathing during the ball scene, So in conclusion, yes, she is doing a tight lacing, other aspect of the dress helped to exaggerate the waist image even more, I know lots want to keep the fairytale aspect of it alive but why the director wanted her to have a super small waist is to fit into the word *So delicate you can wrap your hand around it* from the Cinderella story
@LizzardBeth96
@LizzardBeth96 4 года назад
Also the ruffles around the shoulder create volume there, so creating more emphasis on the waist and the hourglass shape
@Butterflier00
@Butterflier00 4 года назад
and not just the skirt...but the collar too... so much tulle.
@ragnkja
@ragnkja 4 года назад
JustAnotherPotato There is historical precedent for lacing the corset tighter under ballgowns than under everyday clothes, so that sounds very likely.
@erinbathie-moore8478
@erinbathie-moore8478 3 года назад
"You can't hide behind modern clothes" That's why I never feel comfortable wearing just leggings outside of home. Because I always feel like I need to cover my @ss with either a skirt, dress, or shorts, or just wear jeans and be done with it... But when I replicate historical clothing (with what I have on hand) I feel comfortable and happy. Yes, my anxiety makes me feel anxious about getting looks, but they clothes themselves make me feel happy. Sitting on the couch with a long skirt just means that I have a portable blanket
@nonyabidness5708
@nonyabidness5708 3 года назад
And to be fair... Leggings aren't pants so everyone should cover their ass, no matter how fit it is, IMO. Lol
@juliee593
@juliee593 2 года назад
@@nonyabidness5708 I don't really understand that, it's not like asses are a menace to society so why is it such a big problem if you can see someone's ass under leggings lmao
@Ri57490
@Ri57490 2 года назад
Leggings are opaque tights (with the foot cut off), they're not pants/trousers. They're meant to be layered under a long garment such as a dress.
@meichuinn
@meichuinn 2 года назад
@@Ri57490 Wait really? I didn't actually know that until now!
@meichuinn
@meichuinn 2 года назад
Yes this! I always feel much more comfortable in my (accessible) historical clothes, it covers me up so nicely.
@meglogan5336
@meglogan5336 3 года назад
And suddenly I want to dress like an 18th century woman! Stays! and full skirts? YES PLEASE
@Yami-ss4xi
@Yami-ss4xi 2 года назад
I’m gonna be manifesting the day where we go back to dressing that way again🙌
@angelwhispers2060
@angelwhispers2060 2 года назад
1890s through like 1919 has some amazing silhouettes that just like bringing down the shoulder puff a little bit no one would freaking know it's a historical garment. When I finish this semester University I'm going to throw it on start making myself some clothes It's called history bounding and I am super into it. watch Bernadette Banner for more information
@piratejoan
@piratejoan 2 года назад
Always have wanted to, as long as i can remember.
@melissamorgello984
@melissamorgello984 2 года назад
Let's make this a thing! I'm totally in.
@bradschulte3244
@bradschulte3244 2 месяца назад
How do I get started on dressing like this? I don’t just want to wear costumes, I want to wear the clothing of the period with the proper construction of the garment. I now have a wood burning cook stove, which I love to use but my clothes are flammable and just the other day, my robe began to smoke.
@emmerlove90
@emmerlove90 4 года назад
oh my GOD I feel this so much about the "mental comfort". I'm a professional opera singer so I often get to wear these costumes and... when those corsets and skirts go on.. man. It's like. Finally. QUIET. In my head. I have never heard anyone articulate this before. Thank you! x
@tdsims1963
@tdsims1963 4 года назад
What company do you sing for? I volunteer for Seattle Opera! Nice to meet you!
@emmerlove90
@emmerlove90 4 года назад
Traci Sims I sing for a few different places! But mainly Opera Queensland, in Brisbane, Australia. So lovely to meet you too! X
@orchidsarepretty1422
@orchidsarepretty1422 3 года назад
Emma Nightingale what’s it like getting to wear these??
@emmerlove90
@emmerlove90 3 года назад
Sofia P it’s wonderful to step into a different era, sooooo much fun! They are heavy and can be a bit cumbersome, so it does take a bit of getting used to but I love it.
@orchidsarepretty1422
@orchidsarepretty1422 3 года назад
Emma Nightingale id love to dress like that! What periods do you dress in the most?
@austynjane5500
@austynjane5500 4 года назад
I actually wrote my thesis on how we in modern-day mock people from the past for their lack of reasonable clothing, yet our society is starving ourselves so that we can fit an impossible ideal. Thank you for sharing this message much more eloquently than I ever could.
@gamegrunt8739
@gamegrunt8739 4 года назад
Austyn Rose They starved themselves back then too though.😐
@Mhidraum
@Mhidraum 4 года назад
And lets not forget all the cutting, and injecting modern beauty standards often require... Some of the women (the Kardashians are the worst example) people look up to don't even look vaguely human anymore!
@BlackCroft666
@BlackCroft666 4 года назад
"My ImPoSsIbLe StAnDardS" Sorry but healthy weight is not impossible. Some have to gain weight to achieve it and some have to lose weight. And the designer clothers in all those fashion shows are just the extreme and very expensive and sometimes totally unwarable in normal life.
@Mhidraum
@Mhidraum 4 года назад
@@BlackCroft666 A lot of them are not supposed to be reasonable though... Haute Couture is often supposed to be more art pieces than wearable clothing. Like Alexander McQueen said: "For me, what I do is an artistic expression which is channeled through me. Fashion is just the medium." I recommend looking into the stories he wanted to tell with his designs and collections. It's really quite fascinating.
@mariamatedei
@mariamatedei 4 года назад
@@BlackCroft666 have you heard of Brandy Melville
@lindatavella7267
@lindatavella7267 2 года назад
I used to sing opera in stays and I loved it. I could breathe just fine and as a larger bosomed woman, I loved how “sturdy” I felt. I never needed to worry that anything was shifted and that I was exposing too much. Things stayed where they were supposed to, thanks to the stays. I totally feel you on the “private body” part of the 17th century clothes. Gosh. You nailed this. Well done!
@briannas1615
@briannas1615 2 года назад
Fellow opera singer here too! I loved wearing the corsets, sometimes it did half the work on stage for me so I could focus on the technique and my acting.
@julesr677
@julesr677 10 месяцев назад
I love the opera!
@sayrewilkin-dalby619
@sayrewilkin-dalby619 3 года назад
Wow, every meal I've ever skipped for a bigger thigh gap heard you so loudly at around the 8-13 minute mark 🙏. What a bizarre realization that we used to use clothes to sculpt a figure and now we place that burden on our bodies themselves. Kind of heartbreaking. 18th century clothing for the win.
@TempestPhaedra
@TempestPhaedra 4 года назад
the point she makes about our transition to letting our clothes give us a nice shape to expecting our bodies to fit that shape is really interesting. I've never thought about that before.
@jeanettemullins
@jeanettemullins 4 года назад
There's an episode of the Dressed podcast that opened my mind to this. Once corsets/stays went away acceptable bodies went to being ones that could keep the fashionable shape without any help. A lot of the ideas of acceptable bodies are still so tied up in Victorian morality even though I don't think we are really aware of it.
@LadyLocket
@LadyLocket 4 года назад
It's a good point, in prints and sketches from periods like this when the ladies are dressed they have the over-exaggerated waists and figures. However, when you see the more bawdy or comedic ones with half or fully naked ladies (and men) they are drawn rounder and plumper. So even back in the day, the were not trying to hide that the cloths change the natural form, nor did they expect the ladies bodies to be naturally shaped like that without the clothing. Fast forward to now when people obsess over a small blemish, is the thigh gap wide enough and my waist tiny enough on photos, just shows how sad a state "beauty standards" are now.
@Chanie787878
@Chanie787878 4 года назад
I never thought of it either. It's an interesting commet on society's expectations.
@rebeccaclark2614
@rebeccaclark2614 4 года назад
Yeah, mee too!
@AK-jt7kh
@AK-jt7kh 4 года назад
While I haven't explicitly thought of it, I have had that gripe with modern clothing. I prefer vintage clothing like vintage sundresses because they have a form to them. Modern clothing just kind of looks terrible on almost everyone. The shirts are like trash bags and the pants are like plastic wrap. It really only looks good on teens, but adults wear this stuff. It's really a shame you can't find clothing that helps give you a nice figure these days. It's like our fashion has devolved to the point we're wearing, essentially, underwear.
@mjlCrane
@mjlCrane 4 года назад
Oh man, concerning body shapes and fashionable silhouettes, I was just thinking about this the other day - how we are still obsessed with having a fashionable shape today as much as 300 years ago, but these days we expect our *bodies* to conform to that shape, or try to change them, rather than using our *clothing* to create a shape. And here we are deriding our ancestors for forcing themselves into corsets and such, while not questioning our own unhealthy diets and expectations of body image...
@taritangeo4948
@taritangeo4948 4 года назад
Body shape issues 400 years ago? Make a bumpad! Bosy shape issues now? Get ready to spend a fortune on being cut up and stuffed with silicon like a chrismas turkey. I said it before but, having multiple plastic surgeries turned into a status symbol. Where there was lace and silk now are scalpels and injections.
@TomRiddleMeThisSpock
@TomRiddleMeThisSpock 4 года назад
In modern times we have the same ability to buy our body shape through clothing additions. There are butt pads, bust enhancers and shape wear to move the figure into the "right places." Getting plastic surgery instead of buying specialized shapewear is a conscious choice.
@taritangeo4948
@taritangeo4948 4 года назад
@@TomRiddleMeThisSpock consious choice under patriarchy is like ethical consumption under capitalism.
@Faby07aleixo
@Faby07aleixo 4 года назад
@@TomRiddleMeThisSpock not really, because woman are told we have to look like this naturally and using shapewear is "lying".
@dhaliadestrange
@dhaliadestrange 4 года назад
Honest Question: How does one feel when they aren't wearing the optical illusion clothing? Because from what I've sort of understood from psychology and body image is the more we resist our natural shape with things like spanx or Photoshop the more "wrong" we can feel when we don't have those things...
@girlwithoutpearlearring
@girlwithoutpearlearring 3 года назад
When people talk about learning from history they always mean that we mustn't repeat our ancestor's mistakes. Studying history made me realise that the opposite is far more important. We're always going to make mistakes and even the ones that our ancestor's made because humans are just as greedy, stupid and ruthless nowadays as they were back then. What we really need to focus on is what people in the past did well and what alternatives to our modern way of life and our modern mindset history presents. So many solutions are already part of our cultural heritage! We just need to learn to look at it from the right perspective.
@jenniferelizabeth3996
@jenniferelizabeth3996 2 года назад
Yessss👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 100%
@girlwithoutpearlearring
@girlwithoutpearlearring 2 года назад
@@jenniferelizabeth3996 Happy, you agree 😇
@Jackjohnjay
@Jackjohnjay 2 года назад
Yeeessssssss
@DragonriderEpona
@DragonriderEpona Год назад
As a fellow historian I agree. There is so much we have forgotten but actually could learn so much from it or adapt it to fit our needs and problems.
@debbylou5729
@debbylou5729 Год назад
Or we can stop referring to ‘we’ when it really means ‘you’
@CobraFang10984
@CobraFang10984 3 года назад
Love the idea of literally never having to go out and buy new clothes because I either lost or gained weight. Just keep all the same stuff and just adjusting it to fit whatever is going on at the moment.
@jlammetje
@jlammetje 2 года назад
it sounds really nice, I just don't believe it will be that simple for everyone. It will depend on where you tend to gain/lose weight.
@kellyfloyd9506
@kellyfloyd9506 3 года назад
I don't know why anyone would think that people in the "olden days" were dumb. After years of reading books on pioneers and rural life in many different cultures I am filled with admiration and fascination for their intelligence and ingenuity. Technology has advanced, not people.
@zztopz7090
@zztopz7090 3 года назад
Technology advanced yet their architecture is superior.
@laurenknicely9832
@laurenknicely9832 3 года назад
Do you actually have any recommendations on good books about pioneers/rural life because I'm interested! 😅
@catelynh1020
@catelynh1020 3 года назад
Technology advanced, yes, but i think the thing that people have the knee-jerk reaction to is actually the unknown dangers they faced. Like asbestos seemed like such a good idea until it became known that it was damaging. Arsenic or other poisons in makeup. Rapidly growing cities with poor waste management. Hygiene being as important as it is in regards to medical aid and cross contamination. Humans are very good at surviving, which is how we've made it this far, but i don't think that anything should necessarily be said about changes in intelligence. Your statement is correct that it is not the people who have advanced.
@amycortez3289
@amycortez3289 3 года назад
Lauren Knicely I recommend “Oh, Pioneers” and “My Antonia” both by Willa Cather. Beautiful books about the pioneers in the American Midwest. Also “A Lady’s Life in the Rocky Mountains”, I forget the author, is amazing. It’s a British lady’s actual journal as she traveled through Colorado in its founding days. I have a hard time reading nonfiction, and I couldn’t put it down.
@laurenknicely9832
@laurenknicely9832 3 года назад
@@amycortez3289 Thank you so much for your recommendations, they sound wonderful! I will definitely pick them up! :)
@Jailyn
@Jailyn 4 года назад
This one of those things I would've never clicked on if it wasn't quarantine but I ain't mad at it lol
@AbbyCox
@AbbyCox 4 года назад
I’m not mad about it either. 😂❤️
@musiikkiiia
@musiikkiiia 4 года назад
@@AbbyCox D9zp9
@RCHL_pr
@RCHL_pr 4 года назад
Hahaha same! Pretty interesting actually
@SMCasts
@SMCasts 4 года назад
Lol!!! Me too, and damn sure didn't expect to have my mind shift about body comfort...
@singsongsign1525
@singsongsign1525 4 года назад
LOL same. But its nice
@SergioMartinez-he5fq
@SergioMartinez-he5fq 2 года назад
I wear 19th century clothing almost everyday. I feel so comfortable and happy in it. I put on my frock coat and top hat and walk to the park or wherever. I love that you explained that it's not a costume anymore, it's just our normal clothes. I encourage people to wear historical clothing. I'm glad videos like this exist.
@abigailclark5863
@abigailclark5863 3 года назад
I have respect for this woman. After listening to this video, it makes me want to go out and buy an 18th century corset. I am very self conscious of my body and the idea that I don't have to be is inspiring. The idea that I could wear comfortable, stylish (I tend to prefer old fashioned clothing better anyways) clothes that don't fade or tear in a years time actually sounds pretty nice. I feel like a lot of today's fashion is made to not last so that we as the consumer have to go back and buy more. Whereas, the old stuff was made to last through the harsh weather and conditions. This is one of those videos that you wish you could like more than once.
@daniellerose7579
@daniellerose7579 3 года назад
Probably unpopular opinion: I honestly wouldn’t be mad if this went back to being the norm🙃
@holi117
@holi117 3 года назад
I would agree, but i think i would sweat a lot lol. I struggle with sleeves, let alone fitted sleeves 🙈
@bfbvouabeorbvoaervure963
@bfbvouabeorbvoaervure963 3 года назад
Danielle Rose I personally would most enjoy if there were no “norm” and everyone could just wear whatever they like without being judged.
@themurrrr
@themurrrr 3 года назад
I think my back would love a corset. My boobs too.
@spacewolfcub
@spacewolfcub 3 года назад
I’d like it as a valid option. Mostly I would like mass media to stop force feeding us one single ideal and embrace beauty in more forms.
@scarlett_eve9324
@scarlett_eve9324 3 года назад
Holly Smith Most clothes made on the 18th-17th century were made out of cotton, which is quite awesome since it stays cool in the summer and gets hot on winter.
@Sylvi3D
@Sylvi3D 3 года назад
Oh so much yes. I was trying to explain to a friend years ago that getting rid of corsets and girtles and the like wasn’t freeing because now we were expected to alter our bodies to fit a shape rather than just our clothing. And bodies are harder to tailor.
@ladyofnoxus6733
@ladyofnoxus6733 3 года назад
And more expensive.
@Call-me-Al
@Call-me-Al 3 года назад
@@ladyofnoxus6733 and far riskier
@ScienceDiscoverer
@ScienceDiscoverer 3 года назад
@@Call-me-Al We don't have that level of nano technology yet!
@kathymcel
@kathymcel 2 года назад
it might be expected by some for women to be a certain shape but that doesn't mean we have to fall for it. Why did we have to be that shape with a corset then or by dieting or surgery etc now?? We do NOT.
@dinerwaitress
@dinerwaitress 2 года назад
There are tons of ads for gaining and losing weight from the same time as corsets and girdles. There was still a fashion and an ideal based on how the physical body looks. It's fine not to go along with it, but it exists.
@MPam1619
@MPam1619 3 года назад
While I don't wear 18th century clothing, as a Muslim woman, what you've learned about comfort truly resonates with me. This is because I dress modestly (or wear long, loose clothing) every day of my life. In the summer I prefer ankle length, cotton, empire waistline dresses and a silk head cover next to my hair with a cotton outer scarf (called a khimar). And winter typically means woolens and corduroy (depending on the local weather). I love my Islamic style of dress and wouldn't trade it for anything. It's truly liberating to not live as a slave to fashion dictates that are not conducive to female dignity much less physical and mental health. Thank you for your video and commentary.
@446wasmynumber
@446wasmynumber Год назад
not live as a slave to fashion ! are you kidd ing ! you live as a slave to a false violent religion and thats ok ? so you may aswell wear fashionable clothes 🤷‍♀🤦‍♀
@cor3944
@cor3944 Год назад
Maybe you are not a slave to fashion but without it you miss the code of “communication” and to control it. So, who’s the slave?
@sabsain2399
@sabsain2399 11 месяцев назад
Slave to fashion? You're literally doing fashion dressing yousef like that. Not to mention, hijab is also fashion lmao??? Have you not seen the brands and clothing lines? Do you think any woman showing her ankles or shoulders has less dignity and poor mental health?
@Raven-cd4oy
@Raven-cd4oy 5 месяцев назад
@@cor3944 ⁠​⁠ Just because Muslim women dress in a way that is different to the western world does not mean that they are not expressing themselves. Just because their clothing does not read as “fashion” to you does not mean that it is without appeal in their own culture and that they are communicating nothing by the clothes that they choose to wear.
@shannonrickard8605
@shannonrickard8605 4 месяца назад
​@@Raven-cd4oy💯 I'm not sure why some people seem to think that the only style of dress that allows people to "be themselves" is modern, mainstream, American clothing. I would argue that by choosing to wear traditional and/or cultural dress is in itself a way to express yourself and "communicate". So many people seem to think that Muslim women are so oppressed and miserable being forced to dress modestly and cover their hair or face; it's impossible to conceive that they would enjoy and choose it for themselves. Almost like the mindset of corsets back in the day...
@Nemo-Nihil
@Nemo-Nihil 3 года назад
So out ancestors were like "well we can't change what we got to work with, let's just add things and tweak this and that to get what we want."
@teacheraprilrogers
@teacheraprilrogers 4 года назад
As a historian I agree whole heartedly with you. People were not stupid. They were very smart in so many ways. Natural fibers all day please.
@somethingwithbungalows
@somethingwithbungalows 4 года назад
Mimi C Panama hats and boater hats were really nice tho! They were everywhere back then.. for some reason.. yet everyone now doesn’t really acknowledge em at all. I’ve seen people wearin’ fedoras and on really rare, special occasions, top hats. No boater hats though.. never in my life have I seen someone actually wear one lol One of the many pictures with the hats is the one with Houdini about to go in some water.. idk what it’s called but ye
@jennyhuaracha1824
@jennyhuaracha1824 4 года назад
@@mimic7118 maybe so men would look taller- their own optical illusion?
@ilianagrenwalt8290
@ilianagrenwalt8290 4 года назад
I watched this video with my 2 year old daughter and she said, “She’s a princess!” With so much excitement.🥰
@mathonamoore123
@mathonamoore123 4 года назад
Aww I hope, you told her that she's the real princess?! Is she too young to watch the last Cinderella movie? I loved it. I loved Ella Enchanted too but I think, that has a scary, dragon in it, it may upset her. X
@ilianagrenwalt8290
@ilianagrenwalt8290 4 года назад
Mathona Moore I remind her everyday!🥰 I am so happy you brought those two movies to my attention. I will definitely introduce them to her! She loves dragons, so she may enjoy.❤️
@mathonamoore123
@mathonamoore123 4 года назад
@Iliana Grenwalt, My apologies, I always forget, it's not' Ella Enchanted' just 'Enchanted.' I am sure there are more Cinderella movies but I loved Amy Adams, that played her in it. Most of ' Enchanted' (2007) is benign. Google - Enchanted the dragon scene - first then, you'll understand me. It is scary, loud and dark but most of the movie is lovely. I'm 46 and I have seen it, many times. Lol it takes me away to this fantasy land. I love ba boys but 2 years old, is a really adorable age. Your girl must be so cute. I know, she's a baby but if you watched the movies with her and chat with her about the lovely dresses and their colours,shoes etc I'm sure it won't harm her. You just switch over if a bit isn't suitable but you know this. Enjoy her beautiful baby because my only baby lol is now 6 feet 23 year old young man. The years flew by. Oh, I'm not into comedies but I liked this 'Hot Tub Time Machine.' If you like the 1980s then you'll like that. God bless xx ps. Search hard and you will find it free on line. It takes a few good trys to get it.
@melissas.5814
@melissas.5814 3 года назад
My 3yo little girl said the same thing 2!
@ilianagrenwalt8290
@ilianagrenwalt8290 3 года назад
Melissa S. It’s the cutest thing!!❤️
@nixeradicatus
@nixeradicatus 2 года назад
When I was in high school in the nineties I was a goth, and I was telling my older cousin who was a professor, that part of what I liked about gothic fashion was the callbacks to Victorian clothing. I told her I adored the gowns are would wear THEM if I could. She said, "Why can't you?" That stuck with me. (Although the answer was, I can't because it's Tampa Bay and it's 110 degrees here on the reg.) But the moral remains.
@nekodromeda
@nekodromeda Год назад
It's helpful to remember that Victorian women wore their dresses throughout the British Empire - including the tropics. It's doable with the right fabrics and construction!
@Sara-cp7de
@Sara-cp7de 3 года назад
I’m a Muslim girl and I totally understand how much comfort to cover my body, I felt her when she said you don’t know what my body looked like, yea go girl😍
@temmiepet4183
@temmiepet4183 3 года назад
Same!
@ScienceDiscoverer
@ScienceDiscoverer 3 года назад
But your religion takes this on totally cringe and mad level. It's not good at all! Free yourself from this brain virus!
@python3389
@python3389 3 года назад
@@ScienceDiscoverer from how hard i laughed my lungs collapsed
@adlirez
@adlirez 2 года назад
@@ScienceDiscoverer wut do you mean? They just cover their body with their choice of clothing, what’s so bad about that if she’s perfectly okay with that and even likes it?
@adlirez
@adlirez 2 года назад
@@python3389 oh hi Python I’m pretty sure I’ve seen you before in another video
@izabelacieniuch3664
@izabelacieniuch3664 3 года назад
I'm recently starting to embrace my love of vintage clothing, and even though I cannot really afford to dress in a fully historical fashion, nothing ever made me feel so good and confident like wearing an ankle length skirt does. Modern clothes make me think thoughts like "Does my butt look good in this?", "Are my legs skinny enough for this?", wearing a long, full skirt is just "I have an amazing peace of clothing on me, and noone should care what's underneath". This is the true feeling of empowerment and comfort 😊
@jenyj89
@jenyj89 3 года назад
I generally wore jeans to work but if I wore a dress or skirt it was long. I worked with all guys (an Environmental office) and one of them asked me why I always wore long skirts. I just told them it was because I usually sit like a guy and I can’t do that in a short skirt...but I can sit like a guy in a long skirt. I’ve never been a real girly-girl. LOL
@gauridevi2
@gauridevi2 3 года назад
Cannot agree more💗
@desijeanlang658
@desijeanlang658 3 года назад
@@jenyj89 I'm a lover of pants and longer skirts myself. For the same reasons. The way you sit in a shorter skirt/dress is so important. Pants and longer skirts = peace of mind.
@MoonshineBeauty
@MoonshineBeauty 3 года назад
well said and that's the reason why women in Islam are empowered and not oppressed...yes I know for western people a Hijab or long headscarf and loose dress is again one step further, BUT ... the idea behind it is the same...making the woman comfortable in her way she is looked at and protecting her from being just a piece of flesh for display....
@desijeanlang658
@desijeanlang658 3 года назад
@@MoonshineBeauty for this reason I will be revolutionizing my entire wardrobe as time allows, making more and more traditional Indian and African wear (long, loose tops with pants underneath) going forward.
@RestingBitchface7
@RestingBitchface7 3 года назад
True story: I started wearing shifts, stays, kirtles and pinafores as daily wear sine 1998. I make all of my own clothes. Never looked back.
@rachelward2005
@rachelward2005 3 года назад
I want to make the switch to making my own clothes and I really like the style of the 18th century. How long did it take you to get good at making your own clothes?
@DanSwerdlove-wb5jl
@DanSwerdlove-wb5jl 3 года назад
@@rachelward2005 yo I’ve been sewing for a little bit, I think you should just dive right in! You can buy fabric and clothes cheap at op shops to practice with and alter, it really helps! The sewing tutorials on RU-vid are great, I’m sure you’ll be decent in no time
@shariejackson2691
@shariejackson2691 3 года назад
@@rachelward2005 Another recommendation that I would add beyond using things from the thrift store is to talk a lot about your interest in sewing. If people know that you're interested, some will be happy to help you learn, and people will often give you sewing related items (fabric, thread, etc) that you can practice with!
@l2516
@l2516 3 года назад
Please make videos about this..Your story why you wear these clothes, the clothes you wear etc.. You sound like a really interesting person, can I follow you anywhere on socials)))
@MioHasMoe
@MioHasMoe 3 года назад
That’s so interesting! I’ve loved the 18th century since I was a kid and have always wanted to dress that way. I’m teaching myself how to sew but I’m worried about how people would look at me honestly. I’ve settled on wearing vintage style for now but I might go out and see how I feel once my outfit is finished. ☺️
@leob9347
@leob9347 3 года назад
This reminds me of the traditional German clothing "dirndl". When I get to wear it at an event I immediately feel like a reeeeeal woman. There is not one woman in the world who would look dumb in a dirndl. Change my mind 😂
@beatsg
@beatsg 3 года назад
@@imakestuff3881 true, Polish folk costumes also super fun
@Ri57490
@Ri57490 2 года назад
I Googled 'dirndl' and all the images look weirdly sexualised. I don't think I would want to wear that in public
@leob9347
@leob9347 2 года назад
@@Ri57490 maybe try "classic Dirndl" or something like that. It's true that the Dirndl is often sexualized. But there is no women that doesn't look good while wearing one
@Ri57490
@Ri57490 2 года назад
@@leob9347 I would still feel too exposed wearing that because of the connotations. I think comfort for women is more important
@meeeka
@meeeka 2 года назад
Yet my German first husband told me that wearing a dirndl would be grounds for divorce. That only stupidly ignorant peasant girls and old women would think that means of dressing were attractive. Stupid boy.
@baileysmith5015
@baileysmith5015 3 года назад
This was SO EYE opening as someone who struggles with body image and is also passionate about fabric and clothing. The fashion industry has SO MUCH to improve on.
@FarmhouseAndFelines
@FarmhouseAndFelines 4 года назад
Main difference to me : Clothes were also made to fit the body, everything was actually tailored to one's unique body. Now it the opposite, our bodies have to fit the clothes. As a tall woman, it is a running gag, any short dress looks like a tunic on me. I am used to 3/4 sleeves because I have no choice. Getting to sew my own clothes is empowering in that matter. Tailored, fit clothes are the epitome of comfort. And don't get me started on natural material...My kingdom for a Yard of linen/silk/cotton/wool !
@alexismontez4230
@alexismontez4230 4 года назад
I have the opposite problem that all 'knee length' skirts are actually calf length on me. I have given up and just make them myself
@virginiadavidson7862
@virginiadavidson7862 4 года назад
Yes--modern clothes here, but I sew my own. Made my own dresses and skirts which I wore every day, and which fitted my own individual body shape, personality, artistic taste, and so on. No need for historic clothing for modesty's sake.
@helenawanders5213
@helenawanders5213 4 года назад
Yes!!! And nowadays it feels like it’s too expensive to get your clothes tailored whereas back then it was most likely the norm! Really wish we could just go back to that time where clothing was that way and money didn’t play a huge part
@Amanda-kw1vi
@Amanda-kw1vi 4 года назад
I feel for you! I'm only 5'6 and shirts are forever short on me! Not so much in the torso so much anymore but always the arm length!
@theirishcailin333
@theirishcailin333 4 года назад
I'm only 5'9" and have long legs but I hate when long leg now is 31/32" where I buy my trousers/jeans !! At least shorter people can get things shortened which I know is a pain but unfortunately we can't add a piece of material on to make them to make them longer
@thecrazystaymaker340
@thecrazystaymaker340 4 года назад
I really identify with the "mental comfort" in period clother. Whenever I put them on, I just feel beautifull and that is not something I get from modern clothes. Like you said, with the stays and all the padding and rumps, I can kind of hide in them and that is what I love
@beckstheimpatient4135
@beckstheimpatient4135 4 года назад
I feel that comfort even with just normal 'vintage' clothes from my grandmother. I feel like even a 50-year gap makes a HUGE difference in how much pressure I feel to look a certain way. I'm very skinny petite person, like Audrey Hepburn with a somewhat wider waist, and modern clothes are NOT designed for my body type. At all. Pants gape at the back because I have no bum, or if I find some that fit my waist then they're too tight around the crotch or too short. Shirts expect me to have a ridiculous amount of boobage to fill them in, and all bras are either padded or offer no support at all. Vintage either fits 'out the box' or can be tailored to fit, because quality clothing allows for alterations.
@glasslinger
@glasslinger 4 года назад
There are plenty of beautiful modern clothes! Of course don't look at walmart for them!
@shannarheault5804
@shannarheault5804 4 года назад
@@glasslinger I think the reference is not to the beauty of the modern clothing, but how the person feels in them. Most modern clothing is made to fit a specific size range and height, and if a person does not fall within that range, which most people do not, then that person will not feel comfortable or beautiful in that clothing regardless of how beautiful the clothing might look on a mannequin/model/clothes hanger. The fact remains that until around 100 years ago, the standard of beauty was based on the clothing and its manipulation, not based on the size or shape of the body under the clothing.
@maxwellgarrison6790
@maxwellgarrison6790 4 года назад
I concur as a man. When I wear historical clothes, or the full three-piece suit (which I wear everyday, and consider almost historical garb), I feel handsome and masculine, and you cannot see the actual shape of my chest, or the size of my arms, etc.
@thecrazystaymaker340
@thecrazystaymaker340 4 года назад
Modern clothes, no matter how good they look, will never make me feel as beautifull as I do in period clothing.
@damascus9876
@damascus9876 2 года назад
Not only does historic clothing make my body fit whatever shape I want it to without fail, it makes my own “ideal shape” completely customizable to what I want to look like and that is so low key powerful it’s crazy.
@annelyle5474
@annelyle5474 3 года назад
When I was younger, I used to wear a long skirt with a genuine Edwardian petticoat (plus modern tights in winter), and I was sooo comfortable whatever the weather! Makes me want to go back to that way of dressing 😀
@allied3406
@allied3406 3 года назад
One of my dreams has to always been wear a dress and a cloak, so I could walk away from an argument sassily😂
@MissRaex
@MissRaex 3 года назад
Same. xD
@suzannehartmann946
@suzannehartmann946 3 года назад
DO IT
@samhart4205
@samhart4205 3 года назад
Life goals right there 😂
@minastar8602
@minastar8602 3 года назад
Omg yes!!!
@jkm6112
@jkm6112 3 года назад
Wow! You must have a lot of arguments.
@debraturrall9050
@debraturrall9050 4 года назад
I'm always shocked to see people in their 18th C clothes, and then see what they look like in their modern clothes. Somehow I find 18th C clothing more flattering to most of us.
@workedfriday
@workedfriday 3 года назад
"Throw down at the Indian buffet" is a mood.
@MrKONEWKO
@MrKONEWKO 3 года назад
The point you made about being comfortable knowing that no one knows what your body really looks like was so interesting! You are so right about that avoiding the crazy (and always changing!) standards we have today. Such an interesting thought.
@e.urbach7780
@e.urbach7780 4 года назад
The point you made about body image and the fact that you could have the fashionable silhouette no matter how much you weighed, etc. is something that I've also discovered while wearing historic costume, and it's one that the patrons at the museum I used to work at, would always have a really hard time believing. I will *never* look good in modern clothing, because I've never had a fashionably thin figure, plus I'm too short, short-waisted, etc. for the ideal for any decade that I've lived in. BUT when I wear 18th and 19th century reproduction clothing, I look like I stepped out of a photograph or illustration from the time period, and it's much more flattering! Plus, it's all fairly adjustable in a way that modern clothing isn't, especially 18th century clothing where everything is laced, tied, and pinned on. There is just so much flexibility! Also, I'm totally with you on wearing linen next to the skin, and wearing corsets or stays instead of bras! Much better!
@natashabenjamin4222
@natashabenjamin4222 4 года назад
E. Urbach I think bras are the worst invention ever
@sarahk5412
@sarahk5412 4 года назад
On the topic of adjustable - I loosened my stays on the fly one day, without undressing at all. Can't do that with a bra!
@taritangeo4948
@taritangeo4948 4 года назад
@@sarahk5412 bras are ridiculous, they have that one inch of size difference that becomes irrelevant in half a year as elastic band streches out and becomes useless.
@cloakedbook
@cloakedbook 4 года назад
Really interesting. I have long wanted to make a corset/stays and try wearing them as everyday support for the girls. Might just have to do that now.
@River2500
@River2500 4 года назад
@@cloakedbook as someone with large boobs and small frame, stays/corset takes their weight from your shoulders to your torso. The relief my shoulders feel is so surprising!
@igiveup6611
@igiveup6611 4 года назад
This makes me want to dress in the 18th- 17th century clothing... even more than I already did.
@Niknakchikshak
@Niknakchikshak 4 года назад
Me too! LoL
@Floweroftheprairie2720
@Floweroftheprairie2720 4 года назад
Same
@evonnagale3045
@evonnagale3045 3 года назад
Ditto
@margaretgibson27
@margaretgibson27 3 года назад
Yep!
@rebekahsquires2073
@rebekahsquires2073 3 года назад
Me too!
@yasminflower7
@yasminflower7 3 года назад
Loved your explanation. I'm a Hijabi Muslim and I totally get what you mean by mental comfort in wearing certain clothes. I'm blessed I don't have to wear tight clothes. But a lot of people just don't get it and love to belittle how we dress. And I agree that it's the over exposure, internal modifications and procedures that are actually the difficulty. x
@kayrakaya4719
@kayrakaya4719 3 года назад
Nobody "has to" wear tight clothes...
@McShival
@McShival 2 года назад
@@kayrakaya4719 eh sometimes uniforms disagree 😔
@sabsain2399
@sabsain2399 11 месяцев назад
Nobody really likes tight clothing plus no one is forced to wear it either
@betajoovey
@betajoovey Год назад
Back in 2016, my friends and I took a roadtrip down to Colonial Williamsburg-we stopped in at the milliner's, and you were extremely helpful answering our questions about the physical details of colonial clothing! Two of my favorite facts you shared with us: stays creak in warm weather, and an untucked kerchief ("getting a draft") is a pain in the ass. I just stumbled across your channel seven years later, and knew I recognized you from somewhere!
@JessicaOrban3606
@JessicaOrban3606 3 года назад
Wow the lack of "mental comfort" because our physical bodies are so exposed....never thought of it that way 🤯
@Sleipnirseight
@Sleipnirseight 3 года назад
And yet... The Powhatan indians who were actually native to the Williamsburg area wore next to nothing. They were actually dressed appropriately for the extremely humid climate. Powhatan women had exposed torsos yet weren't burdened with the wide sweeping body image issues Abby claims exposing one's body creates. Something isn't adding up here....
@eyeseehere
@eyeseehere 3 года назад
@@Sleipnirseight I'm amazed that you've managed to compare the lifestyle of the Powhatan tribe women to the typical average lifestyle of women today. Two completely different things. Their society was *so different* to our own, it's not adding up because there's nothing to add up between those two. And just because you haven't experienced the whole "lack of mental comfort" thing doesn't mean other people haven't. Like yeah, be you, dress however you want and be comfortable, but also let other people do the same. Some people are okay wearing exposing stuff and some people prefer more modest stuff, and both of those are okay.
@Sleipnirseight
@Sleipnirseight 3 года назад
@@eyeseehere One, never said it's not okay for people to wear what they want. Two, I never said whether I prefer to dress "modestly" or not. Three, Powhatan women of the Colonial era are relevant as we are discussing the clothing of people living in that region during that specific time. Abby is the one extrapolating those specific circumstances to modern day and making claims that dressing "immodestly" is bad for people's self esteem, and that hiding your body with clothing leads to better confidence and better mental and physical comfort. I'm simply pointing out that these statements and reasoning are fallacious, and limited in social and historical scope. Traditional Powhatan clothing is simply a counter to her specific historical extrapolation.
@Sleipnirseight
@Sleipnirseight 3 года назад
@@scara_escape_artist In this video, Abby equates English colonial beauty standards and neuroses to modern ones. So yes, I absolutely agree with you that it's inapplicable to modern times.
@jayaom4946
@jayaom4946 3 года назад
@@Sleipnirseight They had a completely different culture and different standards. The culture & standards of 18th century western women are similar to modern western women (which are the modern women she's talking about) because we (speaking as a western woman) developed from this culture. Those are the comparisons she's making. There are plenty of women today in other cultures who have completely different ways of dressing and totally different standards but that's not what she's going over here.
@lauraelaineallen21
@lauraelaineallen21 3 года назад
I love wearing a corset because it's the only time I am not thinking about "is my belly jiggling?" No. No it is not.
@NyxieLove22
@NyxieLove22 3 года назад
As you wear a corset can I ask a question? How did you first get into wearing a corset like I wanna try wearing one but idk where to start or how to do it
@lauraelaineallen21
@lauraelaineallen21 3 года назад
@@NyxieLove22 You can get them from about seven million shops online varying in prices from about $50 to $500 depending on quality, style, historical accuracy, etc.
@MissAspka
@MissAspka 3 года назад
I like high waisted jeans for this reason. But if I were less lazy and less time poor, I’d probably appreciate corsets for the same result!
@heatherwills3404
@heatherwills3404 3 года назад
@@NyxieLove22 I buy my corsets from Orchard Corsets (www.orchardcorset.com/) and so far have been very happy with them. There are a bunch of other places you can buy corsets from (and if you are willing to drop some serious money, have one custom made to fit your body), so feel free to do your research. Orchard Corset also has informational videos on their website (Corsets 101) that explain a lot about figuring out what corset is best for you, how to waist train, season a corset, etc. The videos obviously promote their products, but if you're curious about modern corsets it might be helpful to check out.
@marinarudneva8319
@marinarudneva8319 3 года назад
Maybe we should just relax about having a belly instead of trying to fix it with either clothes or dieting? Sounds like the same things to me, both not accepting our bodies as they are.
@SingingSealRiana
@SingingSealRiana 3 года назад
I really like the practicality of historical cloths. They are adaptable in size and you can add layers for added warmth. Breathing fibers, thoughtful cuts . . . I realy like that
@tracygoode3037
@tracygoode3037 3 года назад
As a knitter and sometime-sewer myself, I have fully learned over the years the truth in your statement that you learn the value in the work that goes into something custom made. I knit socks for enjoyment, because God knows I can go to Walmart and buy a pack of 10 for the amount I spend on the wool for one pair--and, those I can throw into a washing machine and dryer without fear of them shrinking. But, what I don't get from them is the satisfaction of putting on my feet something that fits ME--not my sister, not my husband, not my children, not 20 million other people. Me. So, I gladly hand-wash them and pamper them and feel sorry for the people who will never know what it's like to have a pair of custom-made, fitted socks--and who likely wouldn't appreciate the labor and effort involved to begin with.
@lesliekinder7909
@lesliekinder7909 Год назад
I know this is a two year old comment, but, putting in my two cents now. I so agree about the socks and gloves and knit garments that fit ME, that I wear until they get threadbare in places, and mend. I love to knit them, and I love to wear them.
@Darumapyon
@Darumapyon 4 года назад
That part about beauty standards versus body standards blew my mind
@AbbyCox
@AbbyCox 4 года назад
I love how you phrased this! 😍
@Elanoranime
@Elanoranime 4 года назад
It fits so well, right? Your phrasing is really fitting. Beauty standards change. With a changing body standard you fall in and out of fashion. Which is so weird. Suddenly you're in when you have been out all the time....That concept is so weird.
@user-hy5ee2xt6z
@user-hy5ee2xt6z 4 года назад
as a woman who wears a full veil, I can say in the summer when you wear loose flowing clothing, specifically in light colors you won't be hot at all. When the sun directly hits your body you become hotter, wearing tight clothing traps your body causing you to sweat and overheat more as well. the trick is to wear loose and breathable clothes because when there's wind even the lightest of wind it will flow between your legs cooling you off from underneath.
@charlottekey8856
@charlottekey8856 4 года назад
Yes, I have always heard that the loose, thin, long robes worn by people in desert climates made a lot of sense, protective and kept the air flowing. Not so sure about how they'd be in a climate with a lot of humidity though.
@kangaruri2157
@kangaruri2157 4 года назад
Wait, really? I always heard that looser clothing made you hotter because of the airflow heated by your body. Maybe I should wear looser clothes this summer instead!
@user-hy5ee2xt6z
@user-hy5ee2xt6z 4 года назад
YoRHA No.2 Type B i’ve been wearing looser and more modest clothes all my life due to religious reasons but there was one point in life that I was giving up on myself and started dressing like a ‘normal American’ and I was sufferingggg in the heat lool. It makes sense that less clothing would make you cooler but for some reason it did the complete opposite.
@talosheeg
@talosheeg 4 года назад
@@user-hy5ee2xt6z that's because most of our "normal american" clothes are made out of polyester mixes, so they're like wearing a plastic bag! When you wear those instead of natural fibers, your body gets hot soooo fast
@leonamay8776
@leonamay8776 3 года назад
I don't wear a veil. But I mostly wear loose linnen clothing in light colour when it's hot. Palazzo pants, light skirts, blouses, linnen blazers, kaftan dresses etc with sandals or leather shoes. It's so comfortable! Especially when I add a wide brimmed hat. (which is also really good to avoid photo damage due to UV exposure, btw!) What I'm trying to say: I absolutely agree with you!!
@jeremyjub9147
@jeremyjub9147 3 года назад
This blew my mind. I'd never thought about old-fashioned clothes that deeply, but I can see they're more practical in a lot of ways. I've been trying to get hold of wool and cotton jumpers for years now, the winter is cold: acrylic is everywhere! And I do feel exposed in skinny jeans. Finally someone said it! Thanks for this.
@stormyjlb
@stormyjlb 10 месяцев назад
“Throwdown at the Indian Buffet” is the best title for a book, film, or album. It needs to be made!
@beckstheimpatient4135
@beckstheimpatient4135 4 года назад
I gasped when I saw the linen summer dress! You NEVER see dresses like that in period movies. I understand not seeing them in museums (they're definitely more delicate and unstable than silk brocade), but I wish I would see them in movies! You always see heavy dresses even when scenes are in summer :(
@AbbyCox
@AbbyCox 4 года назад
I know right?! A sheer summer gown in a gorgeous golden hour wild flower filled scene on a gentle hill would be 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@beckstheimpatient4135
@beckstheimpatient4135 4 года назад
@@AbbyCox I've just made a linen shift recently (needs smocking) which I fully intend on wearing this summer, with just a skirt over it. Living the natural/vintage life. If the lockdown lets me...
@southerngothic4619
@southerngothic4619 4 года назад
Do you happen to know if anyone has recreated the white cottage dress from 'Marie Antoinette'?
@crazy4beatles
@crazy4beatles 4 года назад
@@southerngothic4619 it's called a chemise a la reine. There's a video from a show called A Stitch in Time that shows a recreation from very fine cotton muslin, plus some very cool research and background on it. Bernadette Banner also made a video with her interpretation of it.
@figs449
@figs449 4 года назад
What is the time stamp?
@emiliesmith9917
@emiliesmith9917 4 года назад
I was reading a kind of uninformed article about 1840s clothes and they talked about how the all-around brims on bonnets were a "moral check".... and I was like.... "It's not that deep. It keeps the sun out of your eyes."
@pinkrose5796
@pinkrose5796 4 года назад
Common sense goes a long way. Too bad some people don't have it!
@EBGBeee
@EBGBeee 4 года назад
I love hats for precisely this reason. Can't remember the last time I carried an umbrella, and I don't need sunglasses if I'm wearing one.
@foxInGloves
@foxInGloves 4 года назад
Haha too funny, although at that point many people were still being forced to follow the old testament with women having to wear head coverings. So glad we've moved on
@DaisyTea1
@DaisyTea1 4 года назад
🤣
@pinkpanther776
@pinkpanther776 4 года назад
And off of your decolletage to stop the skin aging!
@starfire925
@starfire925 3 года назад
The modern body image has been one of the reasons I am never comfortable in modern clothing. It is also one of the reasons I have always wanted, and still want, to try out supportive undergarments like corsets. imagining not having to worry about the way my body looks sounds amazing!! This video confirmed my suspicions/hopes :)
@deebraun7488
@deebraun7488 3 года назад
I have a Midwest 1890's dress that my cousin made for me. It is my favorite outfit and the most comfortable thing I own. I noticed many of the same things you talked about when I dressed for Silver Dollar City. The protection offered by those fashions is unparalleled! Here, in Missouri, we've got ticks and prickle patches that catch on jeans but not those dresses with the ruffled hems. Sheer brilliance!
@autumscott391
@autumscott391 4 года назад
One thing I don't like about modern clothes for women there are NO POCKETS. Were there pockets on or in 18 century clothing?
@natmorse-noland9133
@natmorse-noland9133 4 года назад
Yes! Women had these large pouches, essentially, that they'd tie to their waists under their shirts. Then the skirts had slits in the sides so they could reach the pouches. You could carry a lot of stuff in them!
@snazzypazzy
@snazzypazzy 4 года назад
They had *giant* pockets. Seperate from the skirt, tied around and worn over the petticoats. You could reach them trough the splits at the sides in the over skirt. I think we see hers at 0.42, the stripy part.
@josy6364
@josy6364 4 года назад
Yes right my jeans all only have fake pockets it's so annoying and men wonder why we are always carrying handbags 🙄
@stiaininbeglan3844
@stiaininbeglan3844 4 года назад
I tend to buy winter coats with lots of pockets. Purses are nice when you don't WANT to be wearing a ton of clothing, but I don't always want to carry a purse. Which leaves my jacket to put everything in because if I stuff my jeans pockets it looks ridiculous with the bulges front and back.... Pouch under puffy skirt. I like it.
@marenquaranta2134
@marenquaranta2134 3 года назад
Yes! I have talked about this before! Rich or poor, nearly every dress had hidden openings in their skirts where they cod access large pouches that they would tie on their waist under they're petticoats.
@kallandar13
@kallandar13 4 года назад
Abby: Shorts are made by satan, satan invented shorts, and I will stand by that Me: you know, she has a good point
@beckstheimpatient4135
@beckstheimpatient4135 4 года назад
From a female perspective, having something covering your crotch is a good idea sometimes. I won't go into details, but they're there more to protect the rest of you from your crotch, rather than the other way around.
@AbbyCox
@AbbyCox 4 года назад
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@christinapapp7143
@christinapapp7143 4 года назад
@Elizabeth Day I'm a woman who likes to wear men's boxer shorts. When I was younger, I work them under both jeans and dresses. Loved it. I don't wear them now because I can't find them in 100% cotton. Getting ready to make historical undies for modern wear.
@Butterflier00
@Butterflier00 4 года назад
I wear bike shorts under every single skirt I have (modern skirt) because my thigh chaffing...it just BAD...
@kallandar13
@kallandar13 4 года назад
TehMomo I wear leggings for the same reason (but also for modesty’s sake)
@Marf_FD
@Marf_FD 2 года назад
That is such a great point, clothing used to be custom to a person's body. Now with fast fashion, the norm is altering your body to fit the clothes. Clothes are there for us, not the other way around. My dream is to design and sew myself a capsule collection over the next few years to replace most of what I have now.
@mariearchambeault145
@mariearchambeault145 3 года назад
This fashion def needs to come back As women I feel we've all dreamed of having the wrapped waist, puffy skirt, flower field, sunset, moment. Let's just do it My hair isnt gonna be wrapped tho sorry.
@donotfret
@donotfret Год назад
I think us men would appreciate it as well
@sabsain2399
@sabsain2399 11 месяцев назад
​@@donotfret ok..?
@eleanor7
@eleanor7 3 года назад
The thing I always thought smart about clothes from back then. That they made clothes to last. Where they couldn't run off to the nearest mall to pick up some new pants if they went out of style. They took care of their clothes and choose material and styles that they could use and wear for several years. I miss when clothes were more practical and reliable. Where a good quality shirt could get a lot of use out of it, instead of a lot of fast fashion that starts to deteriorate pretty quick. One of the things that really bothers me, is how much of old clothes fill up landfills, when we should find better ways to recycle and upcycle things.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 3 года назад
You can have anything made on Etsy. It's not horrifically expensive. One good shirt should equal several cheapies. I bought a gorgeous kitsch apron (flamingos and all!) And leg warmers. As well as a Yip Yip (it's from Sesame Street) catchall. Just make sure you find someone in the country you live in. Customs charges can kill you and take a very long time to arrive. Nevdr mind returns
@kertelas4272
@kertelas4272 3 года назад
Be mindful of the fact that these clothes were very expensive and hand sewn. You can still buy long lasting clothes, but are you able to afford them? Now you can buy 10 t-shirts for a low price and have some variety instead of wearing few dresses whole month. And since nowodays clothes are cheap and mass produced you can buy another one next season. Back then if you weren't an aristocrat you would most likey have 3 or 4 hand sewn, plain dresses, and that would be it.
@eleanor7
@eleanor7 3 года назад
@@kertelas4272 Sadly no I can't afford something that is hand sewn. But for the most part my closet is hand me downs, thrifting, and trying to use my clothes to the last man standing. I do have to do a bit of fast fashion because my body is hard to fit and I admit I am a bit too round for my liking.
@goldengryphon
@goldengryphon 3 года назад
@@eleanor7 It's okay. You actually can probably afford to buy a custom piece. Custom clothing isn't that far out of what you pay for clothing, overall, in a given year. There's a difference between "hand sewn", "custom", and "handmade" clothing. Hand sewn clothing is fabric that is sewn together by someone with an immense amount of patience and takes the time to stick an actual needle, with actual thread through a length of fabric - by hand. No machinery more complicated than a scissors is used in the putting together of the pieces. This is way outside the price range of most people. The clothing, provided the fabric was chosen with the same care, will last forever, effectively. Handmade clothing is more loosely defined. It can mean anything from "Sheep to shawl", all done by the same person or a team of talented people to someone who adds trim and skirts to ready-made t-shirts for "t-shirt dresses". It depends on where you're looking and what your local area steers towards. University towns, touristy places, and places that have a large population of younger people will trend more towards the quick fashion, and less towards anything that involves a lot of time and/or personal skill. You can still find people who will have varying levels of skill in those places (the person who showed me how to choose patterns and sew "to a picture" was in a university town and was a godsend), but you may have to look for them. Custom clothing is just that, clothing that is made just for you. It uses your measurements, fabric choices, style decisions and you get a thing that is 'made' just for you. It's cheaper than hand sewn, can be cheaper than handmade, but it is your decisions made real. Do not, please, try to get a tailor (usually someone attached to dry cleaner, these days) to make you a custom garment, if you haven't seen their work in such a way. People get comfortable with certain types/styles of sewing. A person who usually hems skirts and pants, and can do minor repairs on a made garment may not feel comfortable making something from scratch. A person who normally works with bridal satins and taffetas may not be good at wool plaids or doing something with a sheer cotton gauze. It's all in what they do most, what they enjoy making, and what they are willing to do for a paying client. Piece goods, fabric and trim, can run the list of quality as well. Quality fabric from good quality fiber, is the most expensive part (for me at least) of any sewing project. Next would be the fastenings and supports (boning and buttons and trims). When you look at Etsy shops, don't be afraid to take close looks at the hems and/or trims/buttons/laces you see. Be aware, also, that Etsy is starting to lose cachet thanks to some of their newer policies. You may have good luck checking through different online small shops (if I knew any names I would share. Right now, people are either working through Facebook or some other mass media type, while they look for other outlets). DOing a general search might turn up something/someone close to you. Be safe, have fun, and just enjoy that you have options. You don't have to buy cheap stretchy denim while dreaming of a lovely wool skirt. You can save up a bit and have a lovely wool skirt. If I can do it, you can do it.
@MorganDonner
@MorganDonner 4 года назад
Oh my goodness, yes to everything! Can we please go back to corsets and shifts now?
@AlaskanCookie
@AlaskanCookie 4 года назад
Morgan Donner Yes please!
@pitepaltproductions8933
@pitepaltproductions8933 4 года назад
Morgan Donner agreed
@123marksalot
@123marksalot 4 года назад
moda dunyam 01 why not?
@charlottegury1243
@charlottegury1243 4 года назад
@moda dunyam 01 why not?
@katherinemorelle7115
@katherinemorelle7115 4 года назад
moda dunyam 01 do you mean uncomfortable? Because I’m far more comfortable in a corset than I am in a bra. They’re a godsend to those of us who are big busted and/or have really bad backs. Wearing a corset means I can sit up in my wheelchair for twice as long! And I feel better about myself, as well as having this mental comfort having all my squishy bits protected. Corsets and stays are awesome! And I’d go back to a corset over a bra in an instant!
@spadesgrl
@spadesgrl 3 года назад
My very own sewing machine is coming in in the next couple weeks, and I've made the leap to learn how to properly sew because of Abby, Cathy, Bernadette, and other historical dress experts! This video specifically blew my mind with how I looked at clothes. I CANNOT wait to finally sew my own (historical looking and/or cottagecore) clothes 💖 THANK you Abby for opening my eyes!!
@chrissiestevens1001
@chrissiestevens1001 3 года назад
Wow! The mind boggling points you make about body image, weight fluctuations and us being on display in our modern fashion are so sensible!
@ThriveLiving
@ThriveLiving 4 года назад
So interesting! Especially the part about how modern clothing puts our body on display and the commentary about corsets. I actually can't stand our modern clothing and feel as though we have lost a certain art in our quest for 'comfort'.
@amandamckevitt7890
@amandamckevitt7890 3 года назад
I could not agree more with you!!!!
@stephaniesanchez7321
@stephaniesanchez7321 3 года назад
Do you think though that the art of clothing is still very prevalent but only among the wealthy? I’m wondering if 17&18th century poor women thought their clothes were art pieces ? Also, maybe makeup is “making up” for that loss of art thru clothing and is not affordable for rich and poor ?
@rebekahsquires2073
@rebekahsquires2073 3 года назад
Carolanne Wright yes! 🥰
@leonamay8776
@leonamay8776 3 года назад
I do think we lost a lot. But it's not about comfort or practicality imo. Nice (tailor made) linnen trousers, a blouse, wide brim hat and woven leather shoes. That's the epitome of comfort on hot summer days imo... They also showcase skill and craftmanship (or womanship, I guess🤷‍♀️🤔). A clingy polyester dress with heels? Incredibly uncomfortable in comparison. The loss is imo probably due to about fast fashion and consumerism, tbh...
@isabelle2850
@isabelle2850 3 года назад
@@leonamay8776 exactly, and the struggle is, where to find those linen pants that fit your body shape, that you feel comfortable in and not fat, that do not create mental discomfort and you know will resist fo years, not for 2 seasons? Where to find affordable wide brim hats that are not fast fashion made and that will give you this sense of peace and ownership and happiness?
@emilymastronardi564
@emilymastronardi564 4 года назад
Thinkin about how really baggy clothes like what Billie Eilish wears is the same but opposite
@seachelle7222
@seachelle7222 4 года назад
I thought about that too..
@julierose-onkka5011
@julierose-onkka5011 3 года назад
Your commentary on modern expectations of body image as it relates to the past and how clothing was an equalizer is one of the most powerful messages I have heard. Thank you so very much for this message. I have been on the journey to acceptance of my body for a while. This just helped me make a full shift in how I will cloth myself in the future. Not corsets every day ( I work in healthcare, that won't be logical), but I certainly won't continue to judge myself against standards that are so restrictive.
@sherrifarris8878
@sherrifarris8878 3 года назад
I did Renaissance Fairs off and on for decades and my favorite part of the day was putting on my stays and taking them off again at the end of the day. Because I was a vendor, I really appreciated the back support and was perfectly comfortable in the long skirts all day. In fact, if I go back to that fair as a guest, I feel weird if I'm in 'street clothes'.
@pauladavitt2744
@pauladavitt2744 4 года назад
I’m so glad I’m not the only one that thinks bras are the root of all evil lol.
@SnappyDragon
@SnappyDragon 4 года назад
My las bra shopping trip involved asking the poor salesperson for "as little 'bra' in my bra as possible".
@ragnkja
@ragnkja 4 года назад
Bras have to fit the wearer, just like any other structured foundation garment. I only have a few bras in my current size, and one of them is hell to wear for any significant duration, because the underwire gets poky at my sides. My best bras are sport bras, and they’re actually corded, so I get some of the same support I’d get from underwire without having any potentially pokey metal under my bust. The only problem is that they’re visible under just about any V-necked top, so I mostly wear them under clothes that are not décolleté _at all._
@craftingweirdo6498
@craftingweirdo6498 4 года назад
bras are the root of all evil. They cant really be adjusted to the shape of the wearer and pushup bras just hurt.
@ragnkja
@ragnkja 4 года назад
costumes and cosplay Yeah, a bra either fits or it doesn’t. There’s no way to make an ill-fitting bra (the vast majority of them for most of us) into one that fits, and underwire just exacerbates any and all fit issues.
@DivaAvgusta
@DivaAvgusta 4 года назад
Whilst I agree that stays or corsets make more sense for supporting breasts, I am going to stand up for bras. Even up until the 1970 bras were custom made for the wearer - there were off the shelf models of course, but every town had at least one seller of custom girdles, bras etc. If you try to manufacture bras industrially you need to have 90 sizes just to cover the average woman and because that is expensive, the lingerie industry produces a limited (cca 20 - 25 sizes) range and demands that you make your body fit that. And this is where the pain comes from. Bras - especially for larger cup sizes are a very highly engineered product, so you can't just size up your pattern, but have to complexity re-design it every 3 sizes or so. The depth of the cup, the projection, the height of the wings, the curve of the bra bone, the width of the back strap, the position of shoulder straps, the list goes on and on. So you actually need more bra to make it comfortable - more types of wires, more seams, more parts - but made in the correct way to fit you. And you are not going to find that in a department store anytime soon.
@christianaweber6349
@christianaweber6349 3 года назад
We're taught to believe that women in the past were subjugated by their clothing.(corsets) But I believe today's modern clothing is more of a problem. Bras are a nightmare, at the end of the day, you just want to get rid of it, because no matter how well it fits, by the end of the day it pinches, and rubs. My biggest peeve is today's heels. How do you walk in them? I used to wear stilettos, and run for the bus, and after my toddler. Now I see platform stilettos, how do you ladies walk in them? My stiletto days ended after the first time I hurt my back!
@lesliegann2737
@lesliegann2737 3 года назад
I'm older now but even when I was young I never felt comfortable in high heels on so many levels. I always felt like a bent over stork. Some women can wear them, some can't. Bras - my favourite clothing pet peeve. I call them my 'harness'. They don't seem to want to make bras that are light weight yet actually covers up the nipples properly. If you're a bigger size (body/boobs) good luck finding a comfortable bra with coverage. I'm even a little surprised that throughout the decades someone hasn't come up with a better idea. If anyone knows of any let me know lol.
@BreGrant98
@BreGrant98 3 года назад
Bras and heels are the worst! Legit cannot walk in any kind of heels and I feel like an ostrich wearing them. (Although they are kinda nice when you need to reach a high shelf) And bras. Oh my God, bras. My size is a 38J, so yeah, expensive and hard to fit. And no amount of lift can hold them up enough to where I don't get a buildup of sweat under my boobs that doesn't dry until I get home and take it off! Don't get me started on the back/shoulder pain, either. I wonder if a corset would actually relieve any of the pressure.
@rebekahsquires2073
@rebekahsquires2073 3 года назад
Leslie Gann exactly!
@rebekahsquires2073
@rebekahsquires2073 3 года назад
Bre Grant it seems like it would since it would be more evenly distributed almost like a back brace maybe ...
@alias201
@alias201 3 года назад
@@BreGrant98 apparently its much better. They don't put stress on your shoulders, so it's like a built in shelf for your boobs. I go braless as much as I can, but with an Ecup it's really difficult in public. My posture is so much better without a bra. My back carries my boobs, not my shoulders.
@catherinegraybarnes
@catherinegraybarnes 2 года назад
I really loved what you said about taking pride in the way we dress as a society and learning to value clothing that was sewn by hand. I spent some time in Ghana, and the woman I lived with there was a seamstress. It was so hard to come back to fast fashion in the U.S.!
@aislingkenny3894
@aislingkenny3894 9 месяцев назад
The things about your comfort in your body in historical clothing resonates SO much with me! I'm converting to Judaism and a few years ago I decided to start covering my hair for prayer, then full time, then started dressing modestly in general to what I'd call "tznius but clearly gay" standards. And my GOSH my relationship to my body has changed. I still have my own style and look and feel good and attractive, but my body and my hair isn't on display and I'm so much more comfortable in myself. Especially with my headscarves - you can play around with the style SO MUCH to achieve different looks without doing anything to your body at all. Just the way you wrap or pin or even fill in the fabric (you can get shapers to add volume) can change how your face shape looks to a crazy degree!
@postscriptciara
@postscriptciara 4 года назад
I want to join your historical dress movement.
@MsTrumpetChick1
@MsTrumpetChick1 3 года назад
Count me in
@PrincessNiq
@PrincessNiq 3 года назад
I'm totally in
@helainarogers1457
@helainarogers1457 3 года назад
I'm in
@agnosopher1072
@agnosopher1072 3 года назад
Same
@Joie-de-Vivre33
@Joie-de-Vivre33 3 года назад
Me too!
@vegandemon3259
@vegandemon3259 4 года назад
People weren’t stupid in the past, everything we have now is because of them. And ofc i meant to good things, we learned from their mistakes too.
@RD-kg5zt
@RD-kg5zt 4 года назад
Well I mean that's true but somehow they managed to forget pretty much everything the Roman's had like aqueducts and stuff😂
@thenottherecow3599
@thenottherecow3599 4 года назад
such as racism..
@thenottherecow3599
@thenottherecow3599 4 года назад
i know what you mean, but that statement can be a bit.. unfortunate ahah
@hedgie58921
@hedgie58921 4 года назад
R D thing is about aqueducts- some still work in Europe today! People there kept using the technologies - and a big part of the Renaissance was rediscovering the philosophies and technology that was made then
@josiec9249
@josiec9249 4 года назад
@@thenottherecow3599 Also the idea of not being racist. The Mennonites were a big part of the underground railroad in the 17 & 1800s
@carlynsykes6053
@carlynsykes6053 Год назад
I love how you explain the mental comfort the corset gives. I have definitely experienced that feeling too but have never been able to order he feelings into such sense! I have also practiced the forward lean and ditching the modern underwear. Plus wearing just the shift at the end of the day is SO comfortable! Loved this whole video, thank you!
@katrad333
@katrad333 3 года назад
After purchasing a faux wool coat and realizing, the reason it doesn't breath is that it was polyester. I have been on a mission to build a wardrobe based on wool, cotton and linen. I have been removing polyester lining, interfacing and padding from real wool coats, jackets, skirts and pants, using cotton or linen as a base layer. And yes, sans modern underwear. Now I have lots of breathable and more comfortable clothes, which are more modest. Anyways, your video was terrific. So full of enthusiasm and wonderful insights. Thank you.
@PowerToolsnPearls
@PowerToolsnPearls 4 года назад
2 things: 1 - can we get rid of fast fashion??? 2 - can we get rid of plastic clothes??? Is that actually the same request???
@sarahk5412
@sarahk5412 4 года назад
With you to a point - as a dancer I really love my Lycra/spandex. I've worn dancewear without it before and ugh is it ever hot, scratchy, and misshapen. And for some people, "fast fashion" is all they can afford. But I would suggest on a consumer level that we utilize our local thrift stores!
@PowerToolsnPearls
@PowerToolsnPearls 4 года назад
Sarah K I think I keep our local thrift shop in business lmao. I used to teach ballet. Lycra and spandex are forms of latex. I know because I’m very allergic to latex. It can easily be sourced naturally. Banana and Kiwi are two fruits with the highest level of natural latex. It’s actually plastics which are hot, don’t breathe well, and are scratchy. Poor quality wool is often a skin irritant and just as I am allergic to latex, I know many people are allergic to other natural fibers. I agree there’s definitely a place for man made fibers. Hospitals couldn’t function without them. The bacteria level would be insane. There MUST be disposable and hypoallergenic materials. I’m not anti-progress in any way. I do believe a bigger return to natural fibers and avoiding fast fashion disposable items would help lower the cost of better clothing as there would be more of it. Even peasants could afford casual linens and farmers traded for wool.
@leonoraluz
@leonoraluz 4 года назад
I only wear vintage clothes from 2000 on and I prefer cotton, wool, silk and linen to artificial fabrics. I also exchange clothes with other women and use my sewing machine to better fit them to my body. Old clothes are well tailored and the circular economy is a way to stop consuming. We can use and reuse clothes indefinitely.
@mariak9079
@mariak9079 4 года назад
Vintage isn’t 2000 on! Vintage is 80’s at the latest and really before.
@sarahk5412
@sarahk5412 4 года назад
@@PowerToolsnPearls I said dancewear /without/ Lycra or Spandex usually feels hot and scratchy, mainly because they make it out of synthetic fabric instead of natural fibers plus stretchy stuff. I know disposable medical stuff is important (and I have issues with wool, too), but I would love it if I could get more 100% cotton (or linen or silk or bamboo) items, especially sweaters.
@sirenelectric143
@sirenelectric143 4 года назад
I love what you said about the “mental comfort.” I just started dressing vintage, I tend to gravitate more towards 1930s-40s For me the mental comfort comes from feeling fashionable yet people not be able to see every curve or outline of my body. When I dressed modern I constantly would avoid groups of guys or would feel myself kind of shrinking into myself when I was in line somewhere or walked by a guy and could just feel their eyes on your body. I also grew up in the ghetto side of LA so the catcalls and unwanted attention (from grown ass men might I add) started almost as soon as you hit puberty. Dressing vintage gave me the confidence to walk into a room or by a group of ppl and not feel like a shrinking violet. Now if they stare it’s most likely because they aren’t used to seeing ppl dressed like me instead of staring at you for how you look physically.
@uschilou
@uschilou 4 года назад
1930s is my jam! Silk, florals, bias cut. It just skims the body and is so comfortable!
@taritangeo4948
@taritangeo4948 4 года назад
When you dress vintage you show off your clothing and when you dress modern you show off your body.
@AbbyCox
@AbbyCox 4 года назад
❤❤❤❤❤❤
@KoriEmerson
@KoriEmerson 4 года назад
I’m a late 30’s early 40’s girl too. And I feel a zillion times more put together, more presentable than I ever do in my modern clothes. I put on jeans for the first time in 6 years... Eww.. They force fabric to go places is was NEVER meant to go. Low rise jeans need to all go away as do skinny jeans. BLECH
@denisegore1884
@denisegore1884 4 года назад
I wear 1930s style and a lot of it knitted. People recognise the elegance but it doesn't look 1930s until the hat and gloves go on. Modern "fashion" just looks cheap.
@Itsjustash04
@Itsjustash04 2 года назад
I've always said I wish we could go back to wearing capes/cloaks as a way to stay warm over modern coats. They are so beautiful, look so comfortable and honestly look like they would keep you much warmer in the winter.
@lindseyragan3987
@lindseyragan3987 2 года назад
Love the freedom of your body part! I never thought about that!
@brittanydamico4493
@brittanydamico4493 3 года назад
Watching this just made my longing for wearing this clothing SO MUCH WORSE
@jeezursilly5252
@jeezursilly5252 3 года назад
Its kinda sad how we can't dress like this without being getting stares or looked at.
@l2516
@l2516 3 года назад
@@jeezursilly5252 maybe all of us who secretly want tp dress as this (like me for example) should start to wear it all together so that it will become fashion again
@spookyladlawrence7061
@spookyladlawrence7061 3 года назад
@@l2516 IM SO IN
@jacquelynkingery7419
@jacquelynkingery7419 3 года назад
@@l2516 I have always wanted too! I think I will start! Who cares what everyone else thinks!
@l2516
@l2516 3 года назад
@@jacquelynkingery7419 honestly I think in a few years I will too.. We will make it fashionable together:D I just need to start building my wardobe
@kwinters9898
@kwinters9898 4 года назад
Shoes first corset second. I learnt that from my cybergoth days..
@heatherwind
@heatherwind 3 года назад
Yup yup -- stockings before stays!
@hbanana7
@hbanana7 3 года назад
I want to dress vintage and I’m looking for exactly those things! Can you explain why shoes first?
@luthy_1
@luthy_1 3 года назад
@@hbanana7 you can't *really* bend that well with your corset on, so always shoes first. Ps: that also apply to petticoats.
@willowtabby4926
@willowtabby4926 3 года назад
@@hbanana7 yep, as Deborah said, you can't really bend all that well in corsets, certainly nowhere near as well as what you can in modern clothing. This is because of the boning and other structural support elements in corsets. While it makes them great for posture support and enhancement, which can help with back pain and similar and can be why some people choose to wear them, it can come at the cost of waist flexibility. While you should be able to still bend at the hips (which is what you should be doing anyway) the removal of that waist flexibility can have an impact. So, anything that you would typically use lots of waist bending (or twisting) for can become more difficult. Are there any corsets available that have less of an impact on it? Maybe, I don't know. I don't *yet* have a full-on actual corset, just a couple of long-line bras that I occasionally wear. But, even with them, even though they end at the bottom of my ribcage, I can tell you that even *they* have an impact on ease and comfort of back-bending. Although some of that could well be because curving the back while bending can bunch the abdomen up, which can result in it pushing against the edge of a long-line bra
@hbanana7
@hbanana7 3 года назад
@@willowtabby4926 Thank you for all the replies! As I live in an Asian household, putting shoes on before the outfit will be a challenge. Also I misunderstood the first statement. I thought it meant you start with shoes first when starting your journey of wearing period clothes. ^_^;;;;
@GeneNerd
@GeneNerd 2 года назад
I think the peace of mind aspect was very interesting and revealing. I never really thought of that aspect, but it makes total sense. Amazing work Abby.
@inmay4446
@inmay4446 3 года назад
I was not expecting this to be as meaningful as it turned out to be and I am very glad that it is :)
@drhelenloney1426
@drhelenloney1426 4 года назад
I realize that even as late as the 1970/80s fashions were designed to wear with a girdle. We've forgotten that we didn't have to have a perfectly smooth contour, because your girdle, panty hose and torpedo bra sorted all that out.
@beckstheimpatient4135
@beckstheimpatient4135 4 года назад
Yup, and now we have pushups and spanx. Shapewear is still very much a thing today. But in the era of the influencer somehow those are no longer acceptable so people are modifying their bodies to get that same look and it is scary AF. Then again, in the era of the nude dress (Marlene Dietrich did nude illusion, nowadays it's mostly just nude), shapewear would be too visible. Personally, I'm all for empowering women to show skin, but if you say showing skin is good and then shun those who show the 'wrong' type of skin...?
@drhelenloney1426
@drhelenloney1426 4 года назад
Rebeca Stanca I agree, it’s a slippery slope. I grew up in California in the 70s and 80s, and I was in despair because even underweight, my hips were still too big and stuck out in shorts. I remember trying to buy jeans in high school, when GAP first started doing jeans for hips, but you had to have a tummy as well. So I looked crap no matter what I wore. And who can miss the blatant hypocrisy of the cult of tanning? It’s desirable to be the colour of mahogany, oh, maybe not for everyone 😢 A rebound would do us some good.
@drhelenloney1426
@drhelenloney1426 4 года назад
And it freaks me out to see people turning to the knife and drugs to change their appearance. I don't want everyone to look the same, and I don't want to look like everyone else.
@downinthevalley9757
@downinthevalley9757 4 года назад
Plus shape wear is like 100% polyester so if you want to die of heat stroke (or move to Canada I guess?) you can have the fashionable silhouette... Sort-of..
@saifai
@saifai 4 года назад
Having seen some poorly modeled dresses in magazines, I still stand by the fact some dresses today are STILL designed to be worn with a girdle or corset. Spanx just doesn't have the right form for some dresses.
@nicerice8439
@nicerice8439 4 года назад
Honestly the whole reason I got interested in historical fashion was because I noticed the further back in time you went the more practical clothes became
@anaerobic
@anaerobic 3 года назад
Also on the topic of sun protection - can we stop normalizing sun burns? Why is it 'extra' to wear hats or gloves in the sun, or even a long sleeve shirt when it's warm, but it's normal to walk around turning red and developing skin damage?_?
@TheVerdantGryphon
@TheVerdantGryphon 3 года назад
Excellent video, thank you! I’ve also spent a lot of time in historical clothing and agree with many of the things you say. I do find that stays often give me a backache and so have drifted more towards medieval clothing, but I heartily agree about the mental comfort of not being seen the way one is in modern clothes.
@21stcenturydani68
@21stcenturydani68 3 года назад
Wow, I always felt the same about the “mental comfort”. It’s the same with Indigenous and African tribes who wore less but just a different reason. In the west they had the comfort from creating a new silhouette and covering their bodies, while in the other cultures the had the comfort because no one was saying that the bodies were gross and the concept of fashion was totally different to what it is today. Really well done video, i’m a little late to the party. 💕
@leahcolleenworley5963
@leahcolleenworley5963 3 года назад
The bit about how we've "evolved" by not hiding our bodies, but what we do now instead (starting at the 7:00 mark) is mind-blowingly astute. Thank you for pointing that out!!
@thepianoplayer3013
@thepianoplayer3013 2 года назад
Lives in the north and here we also have to adapt to the weather. You have a wardrobe for every season.
@SuperTracilee
@SuperTracilee Год назад
This is fascinating! Thank you for sharing not only the clothing, but all the lessons that came along with them 😊
@tarotdreamseverythinginbet350
@tarotdreamseverythinginbet350 3 года назад
The comfort you feel while wearing your clothing is exactly how I felt while pregnant. I never felt more comfortable in my life. My round belly was my round belly and that was that lol I loved it!
@plenix1044
@plenix1044 3 года назад
Me too and I just realized it reading this
@mm0901
@mm0901 3 года назад
Same here! As someone who always wished I had a flatter stomach and hated that I had a “pooch” all the time, I felt total fashion freedom with both of my pregnancies, and wore form fitting things that I would have never worn otherwise!
@kimdavid4406
@kimdavid4406 3 года назад
So true!!!
@sophiarubens54
@sophiarubens54 4 года назад
so jarring to hear someone dressed in 1700s clothes saying "spill the tea!" but i'm so here for it lolll
@AlexJReil
@AlexJReil 4 года назад
But they did spill the tea back then.... into the Boston Harbor.
@rose191991
@rose191991 4 года назад
😂
@sophiarubens54
@sophiarubens54 4 года назад
Alex J. Reil very true 😂 i was just talking about it as a colloquial expression tho lol
@EugenieHeraty
@EugenieHeraty 4 года назад
Not to mention the tattoo!
@tinkeralexander5639
@tinkeralexander5639 3 года назад
You are a brilliant woman. When I was doing ranch work, I dressed in a more traditional cowboy fashion, because I couldn't control my climate. One piece long johns and heavy leather gloves were fantastic in cold wet weather. A full brim hat keeps the sun off. It all made sense to me. Im very glad you took the time to explain how the clothing worked for the climate in a way I could never expressed. Thank you for your thoughtfulness and fantastic communication abilites.
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