sam barrett - I completely agree. It’s a shame i only discovered Shameless just recently. Amazing amazing storyline and portrayals by the actors. I am in awe and mesmerized by Cameron and Noel’s acting. So convincing and pure.
cum-fart /@Ryan Thomas Debbie was excruciating to watch the earlier seasons, but I personally think she’s one of the best actresses on the show now. I literally would skip scenes whenever she pops up lol now I’m turning the volume up and rewinding just to see some dirty Debs
Yeah but him pushing for mickey to come out was. Especially since he was pushing for him to do it in front of his homophobic father who raped his son and made him watch, he was aware the whole reality of the situation and that's definitely due to his mental illness. I believe the show runners talked about this
For those saying Ian’s manic episode was too much or dramatic. He has Bipolar 1 disorder which means his manic episodes are much more elevated than someone who has Bipolar 2 disorder. He did an outstanding job displaying this debilitating disorder. But as someone who struggles with it I have to say watching it can be somewhat triggering because of how well they did displaying it. But Cameron Monaghan is an amazing actor and deserves tons of credit.
Agreed, most realistic portrayal I’ve ever seen, and true to the debilitating conditions of bp. Anyone saying it’s overdramatic needs to widen their knowledge of bipolar disorder (yes, even if you have it). My manic episodes are just like Ian’s, they’re the scariest shit I will ever have experienced and they don’t need to be dramatized to be dramatic.
How did you deal with it? I didn't realize the parallels I had with him until I saw this and it crushed me. I was literally running miles and miles and partying just like that then crashed real hard literally bed ridden for no reason and it ruined my life.
I somehow identify with Ian, I also runaway from home but it wasn't somethig that I planned or anything I just disasioted from reality and just walk and walk and walk and didn't knew SHIT... I was found passed on at a park in my city... before that I was really just... a mess I party a lot, drank a lot, smoke a lot, but I was a cheerleader, I was in the choir, I was in theatre, I was straight A's student... I thought that I wanted to be a doctor. After the mixed episode, everyone at my school knew... it was horrible... I was then really depressed. It's all cool now but everyday is a fight... but that's life for everyone ...
BxGirl Blazin' I thought they did a really good job, I have two male friends who are bipolar and when they are manic, it's very similar to how they act.
The only thing I didnt agree with was showing him on lithium. People who take it have thier fucking skin fall off. I would know my mother has it and took lithium
I've never seen a more accurate depiction of this illness... It's something I've struggled with for my entire adult life and I've never seen it in media this way.
*aepr84* not at all. I'm not bipolar though I have suffered from chronic depression. Anyway, as a teenager I was in a psychiatric hospital for nearly a year and was exposed to many sufferers of bipolar disorder. Some of them do get really manic. This was a good representation.
I think I appreciate this show's way of having someone with a mental illness be regular person struggling with something difficult instead of like with some shows that have them snap and become criminals and murderers. That is highly inaccurate as those of us with mental illness only commit 6% of crime, but are 11 times more likely to be a victim of violent crime than the mentally healthy population. Portraying the mentally ill as ready to snap at a moment's notice and kill someone is not helpful and only serves to make lives even more difficult than they already are. It really pisses me off that writer's are so lazy as to use it as a go to in their storytelling.
when you have bipolar you usually have manic episode (unusual hyper activity, feeling like you can do anything like your on top of the world, having alot of confidence, and so on), and then it usually follows by major depressive episode--like what Ian was having in this video
Jasper Barulo It's not an easy thing to deal with. I know from experience. When I wake up, I feel like the most beautiful person on this entire planet, but than a few moments pass and I start to get heavy, my once hyper mood now somber. It's frustrating. At one point I'm super loud and bubbly, than on the other point I'm super quiet and depressed.
First of all, love your profile pic. Marina is one of my all-time favorite singers! Second, I'm not bipolar (at least I highly doubt it, never been diagnosed or anything), but I know what that mood shift is like. Maybe mine isn't exactly the same, but I get 1 positive or happy thought and it's SO SO suddenly just DROWNED out by so much negativity. And the thing is, I have to focus on absolutely nothing but that one positive feeling with EVERYTHING I've got or it goes away. Do you know how difficult it is to grab tight onto something that isn't physical? It sucksss. I don't understand
It's hard having unmotivated feelings/moods. You don't know If you wake up the next morning feeling like you are on cokaine or If you wake up wishing you didn't. It's also a heavy topic to talk about, normal people can't relate and it makes it so much harder to go through it alone.
@@Project32HMT32 There are multiple forms of bipolar disorder. If you have it, it sounds like either a ziklothymia where you are basically very moody for a while (going up down, up down, wake, tired, and so on), bipolar 2 where you get manic (hypomania) features for a while then an extended depression (often a major one), or you are in the mixed spectrum of type 2. It's hard to sometimes exactly pinpoint what form one has, what can be clearly called is type 1, because the fullblown manic phase is very lifethreatening and obvious. You totally lose control which you most often dont do with a hypomania.
6:48 this scene is so perfect because it shows that Fiona knows exactly how to at least attempt to help with bipolar because of her mum. And it also shows that she is an amazing big sister. I have so much respect for Fiona istg
The attempt to help is beautiful, but I also advocate letting the neurochemistry run their course, when it HITS, it’s extremely difficult. We are almost as in non control of our bodies as Manic. This time it’s just a dead blank feeling and no energy. I am medicated so I can’t really remember which of the two, I am, I believe one…extreme bouts of energy followed by a dramatic crash. Until the meds kick in, and begin regulating (if episode is caused by going off treatment ) or the meds begin to level you off. (For cases of deregulation of mood despite treatment/ it happens/ a particularly powerful circumstances triggers can imo overwhelm the meds) Damage control and love is the best thing, just have patience till the brain finds an even footing, constant vigilance in case of self harmful behavior as these can escalate to suicide almost in one thought. And find ways to outlet the mania to good or less destructive ways, like if they wanna pursue pottery or some random career, allow the exploration as much as possible . It’s not Likely you will talk them out of these anyway
I kinda knew something was up when Ian finally came home and he was talking with Fioana. The way he was acting just wasn't fitting me, Ian usually was calm and chill he was the less insane Gallagher. So seeing him act like a ball of energy and so pumped just gave me a weird feeling...
@@peysullyy1057 yea he did really well as jerome and jeremiah i feel like jerome is the energetic and happy version of ian but psychotic and jeremiah is the really calm and slow version of ian
This show educated me so much on what bipolar disorder is. If I'm honest, before I knew I was quite ignorant and didn't realise It was such a major mental healthy issue and effected people in such a way. This is what i love about shameless, it shows people the truth, even if it's disturbing.
me tooo , i though (and i strongly apologize for what i'm about to say) that people with bipolar disorder were crazy and just changes mood all the time but it's not that at all it's deeper than that and much more
Same! I had an ex who would get extremely manic and be immersed in these crazy projects for days. He wouldn’t sleep, he’d talk just like this, always full of energy. I never saw the depressive side, I’m not sure if that’s always part of the disorder
@@ameliafoley9569 im bipolar and i suffer more of like what ian does the busyness and hyperactivity and the rush to get up and go then out of nowhere i crash and i sleep for a week straight and dont eat anything and don't talk.. idk the exact name but bipolar disorder can be either just the depressive shit, just the manic shit or both..
I’m glad the show is helping people understand it more... most portrayals are really unrealistic and frankly offensive to those of us who actually suffer from BP. I was young when I was diagnosed (15) and it felt like everywhere I looked it was awful, hurtful characters, and since I was so young it made me feel like everyone thought I was awful and hurtful because that’s what they were watching. Ian’s portrayal is so great to me because it shows the raw awfulness of the disorder without making Ian himself seem like a bad person. Besides that, they really went hardcore with symptoms, and it hurts to watch but it’s the real shit.
There’s someone out there for you . I have bipolar disorder and OCD and have been with the love of my life for the past two years about to be three . Mental disorders don’t stop because you are in love but it definitely makes you feel better that you aren’t alone when you feel that way in your mind .
I am also bipolar. I have been with my husband for 9 almost 10 years. He has been through with my manic and severe depressive episodes. It takes a lot of work but it can be done.
Ian is so good at playing a bipolar person. I'm bipolar myself and I relate so much to his struggles with anger, depression and the hypermaniac episodes.
As someone who struggles with bipolar disorder II (the depressive type) the last thing we want when we are depressed is for people to be hounding us to get up. We want to be left alone. BUT, please, please, do not leave us alone. You can only do so much persuading, I understand, but after a decent amount. leave us alone while still being around. Maybe make us at least lie down on the couch. We may not be able to get up, but we might. Make us drink water, try to have us eat. Again, all this persuasion may be futile, but it helps, believe it or not. And as annoyed as we may be at the moment, when we start to feel better again, believe we will appreciate you forever. Even if we are no longer close.
NGC4622Spiral This is so true. I also have Bipolar II. I've got it pretty severe too. It hurts, seeing the way I impact myself and the people around me..
I like how they even delve into it deeper throughout the season just because he’s taking the pills doesn’t mean he’s magically cured I love how the show really gets it right
yess, i see a lot of people saying that him blowing up a van or the gay jesus thing was out of character, but the way i see it, it kinda reminds you that he still IS bipolar after all.
@@milastefanovic4538 she ran away and abandoned Liam. She left Debbie in a similar position that Monica and Frank left her in. She is so much like them. Given I understand leaving a toxic situation is what's best for you but it was really wrong of her to abandon Liam like she did knowing how dysfunctional her family was... Fiona did the same shit her parents did to her to Liam more than once.
the knife to the throat, the quick decisions, the constant look for a thrill and adrenaline. not wanting to get out of bed, telling people to leave you alone, no food, just laying there. I relate he did an amazing job portraying this illness
@@SweetSword Ian was the one who said that in the pilot episode when Fiona saw him sitting in the living room trying to throw spitballs into passed out Frank's mouth. I don't recall Mickey ever saying that.
When I first saw Ian’s bipolar I thought it was dramatic, but after seeing someone (my sister’s boyfriend) throw his bipolar meds out the window, talking enthusiastically about all his business ideas, buying things, getting paranoid that the government/FBI was following him, that my family was working for the government agents going after him, run away to California, point a gun at random people, get pulled over for reckless driving in New Mexico, getting arrested for threatening a cop with a firearm, and attempting suicide…I think Ian’s actor did a great job.
Kye face you will feel better knowing its because if bi polar i remember hating myself for years thinkin im just a weirdo but since i figured its bi polar i somehow feel more normal lol
he plays it so well, that feeling when you are on top of the world and everyone else feels like boring old farts is so relatable and then the crash sleeping for days having people tell you to get up when you are just drained Jesus, he definitely did his research.
i suffer from bipolar disorder 1 and watching this is literally like fuck this is how I am when im manic. after hearing the shit I did while manic its awful. then the depression hits like a fucking train
i have bipolar type 2. thats exactly how i`d act during extreme manic episode. it does get alot better over time and with age if u accept it and open to treatment. it takes a very long time to get meds just right. but it does get alot better with good care and a good support system. my whole family has it. i got hit with it at the age of 22. i`m 33 now and doing way better. under close care. it took me 8 years to get my meds right. i had seizures from too much serotenine from bad meds. it takes a very long time and close care from doctor`s. that is if u have a good doctor.
I've been researching bipolar disorder for a few months and I started noticing something was different about Ian when I was watching the show on Netflix and I came here to get some more info and this is really heartbreaking. What I adore about this show is that it's realistic to the point and it does not glamorize mental illness. I read somewhere that men start with a manic episode. That might very for some people.
As someone who suffers from bipolar it's heartbreaking to see how accurate he portrays someone suffering from it. Some days I feel like I'm on top of the world and I can do anything, but some times I can lie in bed for weeks and not move. I wish more people could understand what it was like. I feel so alone sometimes.
Mickey is one of my favorite characters of the show, Noel plays him so well, I love the sense that he’s a wise guy, a tough guy but has a heart deep down, he just arcs so well in the outline of the series and of course isn’t able to do this without Ian
this show really got me when Ian was diagnosed as Bipolar. I was diagnosed years ago and thanks to this show, i felt like for once it was accurately depicted and didn’t make me feel so bad about myself. i used to be embarrassed, i would isolate because my family would tell me i was “crazy”. This show showed me to accept myself for it and get the help i need. And to all those out there dealing with it as well, you are not crazy, you are not a bother, you are important and loved. getting help can be scary but i swear it’s worth it.
OMG its legit the same for me my family calls me a crackhead crazy Irritable its so dumb im just as likely a person and im trying to be a better person improve myself
Cameron Monaghan has true talent. He put a lump in my throat in the last two minutes. The transition from his happy and excitable attitude to his depressed state reminded me of one of my family members who also suffers from bipolar disorder. Pure and beautiful talent
I’m so happy that they ended Ian’s character with him understanding his disorder, and finally becoming happy and content with himself. Being bipolar is not easy and sucks everyday. I really love the character development. Hopefully I’m next.
As a gay male with bipolar disorder at 20 years old this is the first time I’ve ever seen myself portrayed on screen. It was an emotional rollercoaster for me, but brought a lot of healing🧡
My little sister has bipolar mania with (manic episodes). The way Ian plays this is to a tee how my sister is during a manic phase. The highs are extremely high and the lows are devastating. Great acting. Made me tear up thinking about the time we found my sister walking barefoot in the snow 2 am downtown having sit downs with homeless guys and “tracking a pigeon” that she had a connection with. There’s many more but that 1 stood out.
I've lived with people with bipolar disorder and it's kind of scary how accurate this is but I will say he has amazing acting ability he plays it so well
5:56 the moment when your like LEAVE ME ALONE, but also at the time like 'dont go'. You want to be left alone, but you dont want to be alone.. its conflicting and I totally feel for him. (My mom has bipolar 1 and I have learned how to care for her during these times. (I've also been effected by deppresion a few time) so the way they portrayed bipolar disorder in this show, hit pretty close to home for me.) Tip: never call anybody with a mental illness 'crazy'.
Seeing Ian go through the same thing I did was hard. no one truly understands how draining having Bipolar is. I have type one and these are the kind of symptoms I experienced. So to relate to him and Monica on the bipolar got me in this show. If any of you are struggling reach out to someone. There is someone who is willing to be there and help. I am glad you are still here and your fighting. This world gets harder and harder everyday. I love you all and hope you all are staying safe🤍
i see the birth of joker here HAHAHAH."i have a ton of energy" i can relate, and it's only cyclothymia and it alr sucks so much. manic state freaks me out cause i find it harder to control my emotions but then depressive state ain't prety either. that aside, cameron is so dreamy i cant
When Ian hits the depressive low and he whispers for his family to go away, that hit hard, because sometimes I get so depressed I can hardly talk as well :((
The scene of him in the club when we hadn’t seen him for a few episodes scared me, I didn’t think it was bipolar until he had that depressive episode but I thought he was on a lot of drugs or something.
I don't struggle from bipolar disorder but, watching Cameron act, its making me be in his shoes.. jumping around giving out drinks, punching the crap out of people then staying in bed... depressed, waiting for death to take me seeing everyone I love or loved walk away like into the sunset and never coming back...
My dad was bipolar and this show showed me what it must have been like behind closed doors for him. The fact that him and people with bipolar disorder have to go through this is insane.
It's insane how accurate this is. The emotional highs and the lows. The mania. All of it. The episodes of mania are even scarier because you have your emotional hi which leaves you feeling amazing and like you're on top of the world and then more severe cases having a psychotic break and In my case just feeling amazing and hyper focusing on like everything but then you start to fall which makes you feel normal and then you fall even more into a dark deep depression which makes it feel like you're suffocating with all the negativity by that I mean like Suicide is always on your mind self harm seems like an option to every minor inconvenience. And you can go months feeling great and then bam you're hit with another bipolar influenced hypo or even just manic episode. Mental illness, isn't it great?
To me, Ian is the Gallagher sibling I loved the most. He really just wanted to make his own life. Bipolar disorder is so tricky. Until the meds are right it is a nightmare. I was so glad this show really made his mental health as real as it could be and let him have his dignity. They pulled no punches with his story.
Acting like a person with biopolar sorry if I spelt it wrong anyway acting like a person with biopolar is hard but Cameron did it sooo well he deserves an Oscar
TW// diagnosed with BP 1 manic depressive dis. This is making me cry because the first part made me so thrilled like I felt it all in my body that same rush Ian is feeling, then I started to think to myself.. this is very familiar. I’ve been drinking excessively talking extremely fast trolling over my words, having plans of bleaching my hair getting piercings and tattoos. Lol as I’m writing this out I’m just realizing I’ve been manic this whole past 2-3 weeks. Literally watching the second half of the depression made me cry because my family had to resort to those tactics to me too... I always feel so guilty for seeing me like that but sometimes it’s just so so hard too hard to speak it’s so exhausting and I just can’t move the lack of energy is profound.
when they showed his manic side it made my heart drop because i understood it and it just broke my heart because this is all very real. I had an incredible week. a fantastic fucking week some time last year and i was so energized i wasn't sleeping very well. and i thought yes, i'm finally getting better. but that wasn't the case. i went a month without leaving my room for anything other than food or using the bathroom the morning after it all happened. i wasn't speaking to anyone and i couldn't be outside. i became so sensitive to light (because i'd be laying in the dark for hours) i had to wear sunglasses indoors. that was just a few months ago. I'm 16 and I was diagnosed not too long ago. I still experience mania and it's pretty bad. but recently i started therapy so this is actually kind of motivating me to get better
what a great show, really ,love the characters. As an individual with Bipolar 1, there is nothing more difficult than trying to stabilize your mind during a period of mania. So, it is a great effort for the show that they make an effort to depict a person with a quite serious mental health disorder. Cheers.
2:06 that laugh genuinely scared me the first time i saw that scene. i was so used to seeing Ian as the sort of calm one in the family, seeing him act like this was incredibly sad and confusing. every time i rewatch these scenes i can barely make it through them without crying.
A family member of mine has bipolar 1 and this is absolutely a manic episode. They can last months sometimes. Very dangerous. Most suicides in bipolar people are when they are manic.
Well in mania it’s mostly indirect self inflicted deaths. But it’s the actual thought of “I’m going to kill myself” it’s when depression overlaps (mixed episode) or when psychosis sets in and they get an idea of ‘going to the otherside’.
First time I saw the club scene with Debbie and Lip I just thought he was on something. I didn't start thinking he might be bipolar until he was talking to Fiona in the kitchen, and I wasn't positive about it until Mickey tried to get him out of bed. Great writing and acting, letting the viewer realize what was happening gradually and on their own. This is a frightening (yet accurate) look at what bipolar disorder is like in many cases.
It's hard to find people who are willing to deal with someone with bipolar type 1 or 2. Even though it's a show I'm glad that they showed support from both family and relationships especially between Ian and Mickey
