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Ice climbing fall 

Jon Murua
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@barryodonnell4860
@barryodonnell4860 3 года назад
Everyone is always so quick to chime in with loads of criticism. Blah blah blah... It may not have been perfection but the man never claimed it was. It is an honest account of what happened to him that day and a good learning tool for those new to the scene. I especially admire how calm the man remains in spite of the few that cant resist criticizing. I really enjoy your videos John and many more do as well. keep keeping it classy my friend.
@clinical_caliber
@clinical_caliber Год назад
you’re cringe, there’s nothing wrong to point out what went wrong to educate others.
@akaTheDevil
@akaTheDevil Год назад
Not sure if he remained calm. He was pretty tired and getting frustrated when his tools when biting and the ice was cracking. Totally understandable though .
@MyGoogleYoutube
@MyGoogleYoutube Год назад
It is literally impossible to over emphasis the level of risk for leading ice. Granted if you want to risk your meat like that and you're not going to put your belayer at risk or SAR at risk to come cart you out of the woods - do what you want. But if I was the belayer for this cat on that day I wouldn't have belayed and blankly said you're not ready to do this.
@Terminator37819
@Terminator37819 3 месяца назад
@@clinical_caliberand you’re a fucking dick. Let’s see you do that
@boss7229
@boss7229 2 месяца назад
Why ice climb? Have you ever had a ice cube and pick at it? What happen? It's cracks/breaks. So, why ice climb?
@user-ky4jp8jf2p
@user-ky4jp8jf2p Год назад
Thanks for keeping this up. It takes a big man to do this so others can learn.
@quentinrf6506
@quentinrf6506 2 года назад
So funny to see all these criticism like "hire a guide and do two/three additionnal season of top rope climbing on ice" while few years later your projecting on couloir nord direct and other very technical stuff like that ahah. Keep going on and, more important, take care :)
@dallzerz
@dallzerz Год назад
You could tell how pumped the guy is with the last few desperate strikes! We’ve all been there
@freakyfrosty4277
@freakyfrosty4277 3 года назад
Where's Soap when you need him?
@theblenderinyourkitchen2
@theblenderinyourkitchen2 5 месяцев назад
"Break's over Roach, lets go"
@Thrusthamster
@Thrusthamster 3 года назад
Wow I remember watching this video back in 2017/2018, and when I rewatched it now I was noticing all the mistakes (also that you use the same axes as I do which was partly why I clicked). Then I check the comments and it's a video by Jon Murua himself! Damn, goes to show how far you can get in 3 years with dedicated work.
@jonmurua
@jonmurua 3 года назад
Haha! I have improved quite a bit since then, but I still have a long way to go. Cheers!
@Thrusthamster
@Thrusthamster 3 года назад
@@jonmurua How long have you been climbing?
@jonmurua
@jonmurua 3 года назад
@@Thrusthamster 5 years now
@ShyGuyShow
@ShyGuyShow 18 дней назад
Right at the top!
@scottreed5937
@scottreed5937 6 лет назад
Your feet blew out because you climb relying too much on your tools. You were more or less fine on the body of the flow, but when you got to the top out and your sticks started dinner plating, you were forced to put more trust into your bad foot placements and they blew out. Get good feet. 1 swing 10 kicks. When you looked down right before you fell, you can see a gap between your boot and the ice. Those points were barely in the ice at all. Your points should be fully planted, kick a bunch until there's a nice chopped out hold for the whole front part of your boot if you have to. Do whatever you need to do to get good feet.
@kelly333334
@kelly333334 9 дней назад
Yes my conclusions too. I always make sure my feet are rock solid, no pun intended. Coming from an ice climber with 5 years experience.
@camilocarrillo2132
@camilocarrillo2132 2 года назад
Thanks for posting, great educational content! Do you still climb with leash?
@jonmurua
@jonmurua 2 года назад
I only use the leash in alpine terrain where dropping an ice axe would be a big problem
@FabioMochettaz
@FabioMochettaz Год назад
It happened also to me and mt friend three weeks ago…. Part of the game. The important is to not been hurted.
@moritzh7118
@moritzh7118 4 года назад
And 3 years later you climbed beta block super? Or is it somebody else we are watching here?
@jonmurua
@jonmurua 4 года назад
😀 that's right! I have trained quite a bit since then, but I have still a lot to improve
@jodomo4279
@jodomo4279 Год назад
@@jonmurua Awesome man! Just curious, were you leading pitches on beta block super?
@jawadalinaqvi9265
@jawadalinaqvi9265 4 месяца назад
The only failure is losing your life which he didn't because he had built the safety anchor. As of climbing great job keep it up and never give up you are already doing great your foot placement of the front points is remarkable. I don't see new climbers using the front points of their crampons so effortlessly, so great job.
@nickbattaglia9770
@nickbattaglia9770 3 года назад
Man everyone posting sounds like your typical elitist "your gunna die" ego trolls. As if no exceedingly proficient ice climbers have ever fallen or hung on lead, ridiculous it happens. Love your videos Jon, way to bravely show both your mistakes and successes on here keep it coming.
@jonmurua
@jonmurua 3 года назад
Thanks for your kind words Nick! I've improved a lot since then, but I still have plenty to learn
@robglazier4648
@robglazier4648 3 года назад
Actually ice climbers who know what they are doing will tell you to never fall on a lead.
@peteragurkis3590
@peteragurkis3590 3 года назад
@@robglazier4648 what are you supposed to fall on then (I know nothing about ice climbing)
@telestix6606
@telestix6606 2 года назад
@@peteragurkis3590 rock climbing (never ice climbing)
@telestix6606
@telestix6606 2 года назад
Your comment speaks to strong lack of understanding of the risks of falling on ice. a 2m (6 ft) fall on ice could easily shatter an ankle. Ice climbers don't fall. What happens is your crampons catches and the rest of your body keeps going. ankle snaps As for hanging yes totally, I believe Jon has improved a lot since this day but as a 30 year ice climber I could see the fall coming long before and with that in mind he would have done well to hang. His feet were weak, his tool placements were weak etc... So he should have gotten a screw in hung, rested and then moved up. This would give him lots of strength to kick until his feet were in and solid and warm his hands up so he wasn't doing the dead arm swing seen right before the fall. Accident = an unforeseeable event that results in injury. As a long time ice climber this was not an unforeseeable event it was pretty obvious. Though I have seen a lot of ice climbers sneak through this stage as they topped out.
@wellsee2297
@wellsee2297 2 года назад
Thanks for posting
@SileDevil
@SileDevil 5 лет назад
Is there any special parts that allow you to use the x-all mountain without hammers?
@vertikalohigh9583
@vertikalohigh9583 3 года назад
Yes, it´s called angle grinder ;)
@jonmurua
@jonmurua 3 года назад
Those were dry tooling picks, not ice picks; they came like that
@dvmir917
@dvmir917 3 года назад
Are those the Cassin Eghen? How do you find them on mixed?
@jonmurua
@jonmurua 3 года назад
Those are the Cassin X-Dry. I found them terrible on ice, but that's probably because I was a beginner back then and because of the dry picks instead of the ice picks.
@jonmurua
@jonmurua 3 года назад
By the way, you can check my videos for Beta Block Super, Pinocchio and Scotch on the Rocks. My partner uses the Cassin All-Mountain and he loves them for every terrain except for pure dry tooling.
@dvmir917
@dvmir917 3 года назад
@@jonmurua I heard the All-Mountain are very lightweight, but I do mostly mixed than water ice, so I went for a sturdier one. Cassin are impressive though.
@jimf671
@jimf671 2 года назад
Climbing ice is easy ... ... compared to climbing off the top of the ice! 🤣🤣🤣
@Canning723
@Canning723 Месяц назад
LOL! 1:03
@curvenut
@curvenut 2 года назад
your error is that you barely use your crampons, you did not dig them into the ice. So your leg are virtually useless. I usually kick into he ice 3-4 times on each crmpons in order to get my foot stable. When I swing an ice axe, I always have 3 solids points into the ice. Like in rock climbing, always have 3 solid point of attachment to the wall before doing the next move
@z12316
@z12316 6 лет назад
Yikes! Glad you didn't get hurt. Like others have said, I think you probably need another full season of top-roping steep ice before leading WI4 (or even 3's tbh). Everything about your technique looked very shaky and like you were just barely hanging on. If you keep this up, you will be seriously injured at some point, there is no question about that.
@maxe2820
@maxe2820 2 года назад
I led my first WI4 3 days after holding ice tools for the first time. To each their own comfort level, but you will have xyz is utter bollocks. One might get hurt or not. Mountaineers tend to have a different comfort level from boulderers or top rope ice garden dwellers, but that's the nature of the game. I'm an anxious person myself but all of the over the top safety fetishists I encountered on my mountaineering journey stagnated and never became somewhat capable alpinists
@dallzerz
@dallzerz Год назад
Shakey is called being pumped. Nothing to do with technique.
@ericwilliam868
@ericwilliam868 6 лет назад
Dude you need to get professional instruction. You should not be leading ice. Any competent ice climber can tell you after 5 seconds of watching your video that you are not ready, and that this is downright dangerous. You are very lucky you didn't get seriously injured, and that your screw actually held. From watching your other video, you need work on your screw placements too. Go hire a guide
@NathanielBannish
@NathanielBannish 4 года назад
There isn't a lot to be said about this that hasn't already been said. Don't take leading ice lightly or bad things will continue to happen.
@jhondiick4202
@jhondiick4202 3 года назад
He felt 2 meters down😂🙌
@Kate-kr5qz
@Kate-kr5qz 6 лет назад
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