Ice Cube Responds To Tony Yayo’s Claim That Biggie Was Better Storyteller Than Him 

Ice Cube is very humble. Allow me to retort. The "Conversation" about "Storytelling" in Hip-hop starts with CUBE. 💯

@big_dinero7942 This ain't about 2pac and Biggie. Stay focused. This is about the ability to tell a story. Make your argument. Based in logic please.

@bigduninero. 🤨Why NY peeps always brags what do you mean story telling starts from NY and who told you biggie was humble? Biggie humbled distanced himself from the guy who housed him took him to shows when he was in prison for a crime he really did not do? He was humble when he chose to diss a dead man? He was humble when he couldn’t talk it out with him while alive? He’s humble when he went to radio calling for snoops and co to be gunned and chased out of ny? All this was how big was so humbled🤫

@big_dinero7942 I said Ice Cube was humble. Like most Biggie worshipers, you wanna give him that title too. 🤣 Best everything! As for storytelling, the conversation starts with Ice Cube because he's arguably the best to ever do it. FYI.. I can tell you don't really know Cube's catalog like that. I've heard every Biggie song ever made at least a hundred times. I'm probably more qualified than you to speak on this. You haven't made a compelling argument using examples. I'll give you "One More Chance." Then I'm going in on you with "No Vaseline." Lol

@big_dinero7942 "Clearly" humor is not your strong suit. One more chance and no Vaseline was aimed at you as a play on words, goofball. I'm over qualified to give you this work. Notorious Big; while he was an excellent word Smith, one of the best to ever do it, he never used that to expand beyond telling stories about himself as a King Pin drug dealer, NY Gangster, being a playboy, being rich, or being broke early in life. Ice Cube; by the time Biggie was on the air with his debut album, Cube already had 5 legendary albums that gave him the crown for the art of storytelling. He's made songs about the hood, hood cats, drug dealers, convicts, ex-cons, gangsters, gang banging, being broke, being rich, economics between the haves and have nots, racism, police brutality, sellouts and uncle toms, strip clubs, interracial dating, troubled youth, traveling, black empowerment, Jim crow, slavery and the kkk, being a boss, giving away our culture, standing on principles, etc. I could keep going but I don't need to. Biggie never touched 95% of that subject matter. Thus, he could never be a better storyteller. He was a good storyteller and that should be enough for you as a fan.

Ice T did

@@thunderouso6662 ice cube did too

Hello

Whoo Kid is a part of G-Unit also and they're all from the tree of Eazy-E and Dr. Dre so it's all family at the end of the day.

Ice cube can’t f with biggie let’s be honest

@@alexprovence9379why better than biggie

😂😂😂😂🤣😂😂😂😂 bro stop it 😂😂😂

Has nothing to do with raps. Making a song about a story is completely different than a script.

​@NavAK_86 Ice Cube wrote Today Was a Good Day long before he started writing movies so yeah

That’s a dumb ass logic, so Stephen king a great storyteller in rap too? So dumb.

​@@lwrncjmsAnd biggie wrote warning long before ice cube picked up a script also

@@ericharris2860warning and Juicy don’t even compare to it was a good day, or summer vacation

What else would we be talking about Ice Cube? Shout out to John Singleton 👀

@big_dinero7942 yeah like I said before. Rakim , slick Rick and KRS1. Are the golden standard of storytelling. I’ve listened to no Vaseline and the other albums and tracks people tell me to listen too. I didn’t get a reply value out of them.

@big_dinero7942 you and I both. Not even close. I’ve tried to listen to cube, not saying that he’s a bad rapper, but we need to slow down with the cube over biggie thing.

Exactly

Unparalleled until Pac & Biggie dropped. oh wait Rakim had already dropped! 😅

@big_dinero7942ce Cube is top tier and one of the all time great’s. To me Nas is my favorite story teller and is in my top five of all time. KRS ONE is also probably in my top five but bro it’s even hard just to make a top five. Certain MC’s have already surpassed Biggie in my opinion. He didn’t have that much solo material and both Ice Cube and BIG ghostwrote for group’s. That alone is extremely hard. To state that Ice Cube is basic or does not belong on someone’s top list is crazy. He does deserve his flowers and I personally would not be mad if someone has him on their top five but again it’s all about preference. To me in a way it depends on the era that we are talking about. Because every era has their top five in a way. I think everyone need’s to respect if it’s Biggie, Cube, Nas, KRS ONE, etc. Everyone has a certain influence and do keep in mind that BIG only really had a couple of album’s. In my opinion Jay Z and Jadakiss already surpassed Biggie but then again that is just my opinion. Anyways Peace and Love and long live hip hop.

My summer vacation Lil ass gee Steady mobbing

@@mfjudge9212 A Bird in the Hand Alive on Arrival Ghetto Bird Once Upon A Time in the Projects Robin Hood We can go on and on with Ice Cube’s story telling.

​@@mfjudge9212Exactly, I just mentioned all these songs in my comment. He's also not over glorifying himself to sell the narrative.

Today was a good day was a story

Roll All Day, Color Blind, Black Korea, Look who’s Burnin, Doing Dumb Shit, Who Got the Camera?, Higher, Down For Whatever, You Ain’t Gonna Take My Life, The World Is Mine, Gotta Be Insanity, Ghetto Vet, Now I Gotta Wet Cha, Natural Born Killaz, AmeriKKKa’z Most Wanted, When I Get to Heaven

Who’s the Mack was a classic nice storytelling in that one also

My Summer Vacation is a movie off of other niggas lives so you still wrong. Cube wasn't selling Crack in St Louis

@@e.r.g.thegod3905 💯

Facts. Summer Vacation, never get with a girl from the projects,today was a good day.

@@pharoah504💯 Ghetto Vet! Can't Fade me!

Completely irrelevant to rap

Damn. This a hip hop take if I ever read one.

And thank you!

IDK bro story to tell, gimme the loot, niggas bleed, get money. BIG was a very visual emcee in general and flow is critical in rap so I’m giving the 👑 to BIG he’s better overall at rapping and that absolutely counts. Cube sounds like he’s reading from a notebook a lot of the time and his rhymes are also generally very basic although thought provoking. BIG used more poetical elements which made the visual interpretations more interesting and vivid he REALLY WAS the rap Alfred Hitchcock. Bro said “sweat trickling down ya cheek / ya heartbeat sound like Sasquatch feet, THUNDERING shaking the concrete. Then the shit stops when I foil the plot neighbors called the cops said they heard mad shots.” . Ten Crack Commandments You literally see Jake whipping rock and the girl snorting it all up sucking off and cooking steak and if ya don’t ya blind and I grew up in NYC during crack BIGGIE captured the time period precisely in a vile of musical crack. Cube and Friday is dope but without the movies he wouldn’t be as big and there wouldn’t be a comparison. We haven’t heard this comparison because there really shouldn’t be it’s apples and oranges Drink Champs is stupid overall especially when they try and compare art like just let it all be great. If anything cube and NWA is foundational to BIG it’s symbiotic like we don’t need to compare them really. Only in Black Music do they try and tear one artists shit down so another’s can be held higher it’s wack. Biggie is one of the top 5 lyricists of all time DOA simply off the compression factor. Even if you want to compare Cubes storytelling BIG did all that in 3 years and 2 albums the only other storytelling MC with a track record like that is Slick Rick. You can’t really compare cube to either one the trajectory of they careers are completely different. Rick went to jail at his peak and Big Passed. Cube got more fame from Friday than ANY prior album he dropped although they were considered classics it’s the whole NWA and no Vaseline plus linking up with Public Enemy’s production team that got him some clout but let’s be 100% nobody was EVER comparing Cube to REAL NYC lyrical dudes like Kane, G Rap or even Grand Puba at the time. BIG got all those comparisons and still does and it’s for a reason. Cube is dope and creative but he’s not better than BIG by a long shot BIGs stories are intricate cubes play out like see Jane run. Fuck DJ EFN for even Making the comparison like seriously who TF put him in position to even have a public opinion like that? NORE??? drunk moron who barely remembers elements of the questions he’s asking. Shit like that is killing hip hop. BIG came and went like a supernova cuz that’s what he was they really need to stop shitting on his name and legacy with these lame and inaccurate comparisons.

Slick rick children's story also

Stan - Eminem. Genius.

Slick Rick and Rakim

Rick Da Ruler

@@kbtitan2464 see you understand. Lol

I'll give that to Slick Rick, and Biggie, nor Cube, is above Slick Rick as it relates to storytelling.

Biggies music is ass 😂

I agree

Nas

@@Coco-de2ei yes nas also

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Got Damn thank u man! I’m from the Midwest Ohio to be exact. Somebody wit some sense on here. Nas is up there too

How were they different eras when they literally both had albums in the 90s ?

@@SupaNovaDomino nwa's first album dropped in the mid to late eighties Biggie came out in the early 90s

Ice Cube’s has music in the 90s …Big has music in the 90s.

@@toyz8ntus Big and Cube is a terrible debatable topic. Big and Nas makes more sense. And in that case Nas is the one. You wanna compare cube with someone from the East. Maybe Kool G Rap

Biggie was grossly overrated

You smokin that Cali weed

Smoking cali weed would be a lot better than smoking that NY garbage zouk weed. I didn’t know yall still smoked crack and weed mixed together? That would explain Why yall think Biggie is a better storyteller than Cube. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

😂😂😂

If u not a bigggie fan just say that I’m from ny and nas is my favorite rapper but as far as storyteller it’s close ! But I tired to listen to cube just couldn’t get into his shit!

Not even close? Just say you don't like Biggie and leave it at that. You sound ridiculous. I'm a New York nigga that listened to all of Cube's albums and he is nowhere near the storyteller B.I.G. is. What's Cube's best stories? My Summer Vacation, Ghetto Vet, Today was a Good Day, Once Upon a Time in the Projects... what else? Those shits don't compare to Warning, Gimme the Loot, Everyday Struggle, Somebody's Gotta Die, A Story to Tell, Niggaz Bleed. Shit, Real Niggaz do Real Things is over all west coast beats and it shits on any story Ice Cube has.

Cube been dropping projects. He also did that project with Snoop, E-40 and Too $hort

Everything corrupts is fire and recently new along with mount Rushmore

No he doesn’t… everything since “I Am The West” has been trash…

I definitely agree

I agree. Both are definitely top 5 in that regard.

Tripping, don’t come close to cube

I got Nas over both of them

30+ year career and a pioneer vs a 2album career what are we even talking about

Ok and one of biggie best songs is a story telling song you never heard of the warning?

​@@ronm3034cube is better drops mic 🎙️

@@devantethedcguyreactstoo252 that’s not a mic drop wtf lol

@@ronm3034 The Warning was a single? It plays on the radio?

@@ronm3034but did he drop a triple double

2nd… AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted was the first.

​@@thegreatcanadianhustle8348was about to post this

Was gonna check that too 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I know what you mean Death Certificate is a Classic..👍🏾

Dope classic album. Not better than Ready to Die though.

Yeah but you're comparing basic nursery rhymes from Cube to Big's more technical lyricism and flow. His stories had more lyricalness to it. Cube rhymes only the last word of every bar. Too simple.

@@NavAK_86 That's a foolish statement on your part. Yes, Biggie was more "Lyrical Miracle" but that doesn't make him a better storyteller. In order to be a great storyteller, you have to connect with the listener and get them to relate to what's being said. That's why the best storytellers use simplicity and don't over complicate the message. Also, Cube did mult-syllable rhymes as well. Hip-hop has evolved to value that more. It's a nice technique that pleases the ear, but it will never and should never be more valuable than the message or story being told.

Cube and Ren write most of the songs if not all

Slick rick

Ice Cube doesn't have records like "I Got a Story to Tell", "Niggas Bleed", or "Somebody Gotta Die".

Ya'll have ALWAYS BEEN the biggest HATERS smh

😂yeaaaaaah😂

East coast rappers will always be biased. Cube has many songs that make you visualize what he's saying as well as Big but Damn! Cube got Big beat. Especially about the movie shit lol.

I got mad respect for ice cube, I used to recite his rhyme all the time in school, being a new yorker everybody wanted to be a rapper and I you to say cube rhymes....and everybody though I made them up. That's how nice cube was. BUT saying ice cube was better than biggie is historically insane 😂😂😂 I just wanted to give respect to cube bcuz I respect my g.

@@realone6138you just mad we created it. Go make your own genre if y’all do nice 😂

That doesn't make you a better rapper.

Biggie DIED two albums in. Of course Ice Cube is gonna have a bigger catalog 😂 what are we even talking about?

I wonder why?

@@3rdGenerationCancerthey talking about being a story teller.. big don’t come close to ice cube..

​@@johntimothy9757Cube's catalog is bigger based on his classics AMERIKKAS Most Wanted, The Predator, Death CERTIFICATE and Straight Outta Compton > Ready To Die and Life After Death, That's The Point

Of course. Ice Cube wins hands down. Biggie is very overrated

@@jamalrussell3865you really said overrated? Nah, slow down.

We love Biggie even more

Do not never forget, he was not Influenced by ice cube He was influenced by snoop To be precise With you

​@@mikeakabighomie7159That's a lie

​​​@@mikeakabighomie7159Lies Ready To Die and Life After Death Copied Death Certificate

Where are you ppl getting this from? Who told y’all that lie?

That's cap no where did it say biggie was influenced by cube nobody was talking bout cube when big come out an plus what top five is cube part of big is on every top five plus topping charts

Ju 😂

“Children’s Story” is probably hip-hop’s most popular storytelling song.

If you was a biggie fan you would have said. It biggie got the warning, I got a story to tell, beef!

Man ice cube had at least 6 Storytelling Songs on each Album. Hell "Alive on Arrival " on his Death certificate Album kills this debate.

@@ronm3034bro you can be a fan of someone and still think someone else is better at a specific thing. Jordan is better than Steph but Steph is still the better 3poimt shooter

Midwest checking in. Thank u man! Thank u for telling the truth!

Bullshit.. technically advanced my ass and cube had way more stories than today was a good day

Yup. You get it. Same with somebody’s got to die , such vivid painted pictures with incredible wordplay/scheme. Big was just different

@@TeeJayYuki Wasn't even thinking about that one when I posted, but yeah another amazing story. Big really mastered storytelling.

Biggie's abilitiy was insane, specially as a storyteller, now that being said Cube was so ill as well i think both deserve equal amounts of respect

No! Ghetto vet is way better story than ‘today was a good day ‘

Today it was a good day.

You need to listen to gimmie the loot 💯

@@ronm3034 Been listening to it for the last 20 plus years bro. I’m a fan of BIG and Ice Cube, they are both incredible artists 💯

You Can’t Fade Me as well

My summer vacation

You can tell a New Yorker that Tony Hawk is better at skateboarding than Biggie. They will school you on that one time Big did a kick flip without busting his ass.😂

He does it to everyone except to 50.

You try to brought a reason plate into a passion dîner !

Oh yeah? Tell me his best movie he wrote? I’ll wait 🥷

Damn why they wanna stick me for my paper- biggie

​@@ronm3034that's a good one, but does he have any stories about other people, or one where he's not the King of NY? Not saying he doesn't. The only one I can think of off top is that sad song he did with 112.

@@LowerEastSidePR I would put that one in the "King of NY" category. Tying up NY Knicks basketball players and smashing their broads??🤣 If that's the one you're gonna hang your hat on, Cube won hands down. Not even close.

juvenile big facts he walked everybody threw the Nolia I'm from uptown

They too young bro, they don't know about that classic Cube. And how groundbreaking Amerikkkas Most Wanted was!!!

@@Prince-233 🤷🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ smh damn shame

Biggie Was Lazy, He wrote Niggas Bleed In Over 13 Days, Pac wrote harder songs than that in the same day

He still can’t fuck with ice cube ever !!!! And 2pac mopped him On hit em up 😂

@big_dinero7942 😂😂😂😂!!!! Right!!!

Fuck no

Cube could never make an album like makaveli.

You bugging biggie don't have not one song better than Brenda has a baby when it comes to story telling big just did it more

@@almightytre3730 Makaveli is not a good album

@@javidspencer3563 Me & My B!tc# Warning Gimme The Loot Somebody's Gotta Die Niccas Bleed I Got a Story to Tell Stop playing

I say Biggie , Ice cube is great story teller

Somebody’s gotta die? The Warning? I Gotta Story to Tell?

I’ve listened to Cube and no sorry. (41 here).

Color Blind has the best intro verse of all time I swear that's Cube's best verse, the delivery alone is 🔥🔥🔥

I’m 45, and I got Cube all day. Death Certificate is one of the best conceptual albums ever. Cube got more range in subject matter and was way more intellectual. No contest to me. Death Certificate > either Big album.

38 & Krs One…Ice Cube …Scarface …Slick Rick…Pac & Biggie were amazing storyteller! Honorable mention: NAS

Ummm Common dissed ice cube and the westside connection. I'm not going to give you the backstory, but gor you to be so confident in being wrong i just had to say something

@@donmacmilly Read what I said

@@Meechonomics I did. You said not 1 east coast rapper fueded with him. Common dissed ice cube and westside connection. Like i said u wrong

@@donmacmilly Like I said Common is from CHICAGO, that's Midwest not East Coast.

@Meechonomics Common would not be looked at as a mid-west rapper at that time. He would be looked at as a east guy

There’s a reason why he still lives in 50s garage

​@@lionzilla2173 Why are you lying?

Jay Z Meet the parents. That song is top on the line story telling.Underrated. AND HE WROTE IT IN HIS HEAD