The humble beginnings of one of the most influential franchises of all time. Pokémon Red and Blue Iceberg. Let's dive deep into this very special topic.
The Professor Oak battle should have been a real part of the game. It would have been a cool twist and its good that he ends up training the starter who is left over.
Not only that imo they should have it be a battle for every pokemon game going forward. A battle you unlock by catching all the pokemon so far. Not specifically just Oak though. Each game adds a new professor so adding a battle with each of them for completing the pokedex would be a nice reward ontop of the shiny charm. That and it makes any future remakes even more sought after, as both new and old fans would want to fight the professor of one of their fave games for the first time!
I really think he was meant to be the champion because the animation in the beginning of the game; the one with Nidorino & Gengar, has been revealed throughout the years to be Agatha and Oak’s fight. It made perfect sense for him to be the final boss and I suspect that he was fully intended to be until late into development when Game Freak realized that Blue’s arc…just kind of abruptly ends. No closure. Nothing. My theory is once they realized this, they swapped him out for Oak as the final boss!
The "Mew Glitch" (where you fly/run from a battle then encounter Mew) actually can be used to encounter any Pokemon, it's just based off a detail of the last pokemon you encountered. I suspect people found the glitch, and then just experimented until they got pokemon they wanted to encounter from the glitch.
I remember being a kid and seeing Mr.Fuji in Pokémon Crystal with all the baby Pokémon sprites somewhere outside ice cave. I remember telling friends about it at school and one of them telling me you have to be in ice cave at a certain time and a secret exit will unlock and it’ll take to to Mr.Fujis house where you can pick an extra baby pokemon. Looking back this was a dream or something but man did it feel so real.. I legit still have memories about it
Regarding gen 1 mistranslations, the problem was that translators had to translate names without context. For examples, to translate pokemon moves, Game freak sent to the translators the English name of the pokemon moves without telling them they was Pokemon moves. This gave birth to hilarious Pokemon moves names in other languages. For instance, in Italian, the name "pound" for the move was translated into "libbra", which is the weight measure. The move "counter" was translated as "contatore", which refers to an counting instrument.
Another interesting theory is the one about how butterfree and venomoth were accidentally switched in development. Butterfree’s design shares a lot more similarities with venomoth’s pre-evolution and vice versa. (I still like the way it is now though lol 🦋)
There are a lot of theories about swapped evolutions in gen 1. As a couple lines final evolutions look like other lines. Another example is the dratini line, and the Magikarp line. People have theorized that gyradose and dragonite were swapped as the snake like body of dragonair looks like gyradose. And vise versa. Cool stuff
I don’t think the veno butter theory holds up I think u can chalk it up to one guy making all the original designs and just reused features(by the logic nodoking and ryhdon could be switched) I think a more compelling theory is that flygon was switched from the bagon line obviously the name but the shiny color is the base color scheme (roughly) to bagon’s
The *"Raichu went and evolved"* dialogue is translated text from Japanese Blue in which the trade in question was Kadabra for Graveler and the same thing happens after the Poliwhirl-Jynx trade in Cerulean City (it was Haunter for Machoke in JP Blue.) Basically, the international games used the script from JP Blue and the original trades from Red & Green but the translators failed to check or alter the dialogue of these two NPCs. The dialogue was corrected in FRLG to *“Has the Jynx/Electrode I traded you grown any stronger?”*
I tried to watch another RU-vid channel do these Pokemon icebergs, about gen 1, and it was painfully obvious that they didn't play gen 1. It's cool to feel the nostalgia in your voice and anecdotes about growing up with it.
Some early Pokemon names were actually used in the anime in some languages, Aria and Ariala being the most noticeable, but Parasyte and Kokoon were clearly used as well. At least now that translation oddity is explained.
I will always maintain that I once accidentally went to glitch city. I was messing around with safari zone, left, then went into that poke mart or poke center (I forget which one is right there), then i walked out into glitch city.. I didn’t have missingno or had done anything weird with the game. It was maybe my 3rd play through of the game.. Then many years later I watch a video on glitch city. I was like “well damn..” 🐬
They gave mew away at the mall tour they did. Back in the 90's. We played a 3 round set and you got the mew before the tournament started. Each round won you got a badge. So in less words. Mew was given to thousands of kids in the US.
2:03 the "music" is actually in the game. It's different channels from a song. This one is the Celedon City harmony. I used to love hearing all the different parts of songs from the game broken down when I was a kid.
To elaborate on two particular points: The reason the old man says their "Raichu" evolved is because the Pokemon you trade him was changed from the japanese release, but the text was left the same on the international release. I don't remember off the top of my head which Pokemon it, but it shouldn't be too hard a search. The infamous "Buy it or die" message supposedly present in the first Kanto remakes has been proved to actually be from a ROM hack that literally just added that line to the game. It's believed that it was done so it could be shared on the internet as a legit ROM, and considering that the message is, again, infamous on the community, I think it worked.
I read that in the Blue Japanese version the original trade was a Kadabra in exchange for a Graveler, and they are indeed Pokémon that make sense they evolve that way. So, all in all, it was an oversight. Greetings!
Surprised there wasn't anything about the Mother series on there. You could make a whole separate iceberg with all the connections that series has with Pokemon.
The soundtrack is to nostalgic, like heartbreak that them times have gone. I remember the first time I played pokémon, I was addicted them and I'm still addicted 😊
Pokemon orgins pretty much confirmed the red kill's blue's raticate theory. His nidoking kocked blue's raticate out a ss anne window and threw it overboard. It drowned in the sea. I also feel like x and y confirms the pokemon war theory too lol.
There is in fact a glitch you can perform to aquire mew in red and blue version. It has to do with battling specific pokemon (with matching spec stats to the mews hexadecimal id) running into specific trainers and before the exclamation pops up hitting the start button and using either dig or teleport to cerulean city then going north to nugget bridge, and boom, as soon as you step on the bridge you enter a battle with a wild mew.
That's precisely the Mew glitch. You can do it with different trainers and depending on some factors you can get other unobtainable Pokémon like Gengar or Alakazam.
It's not called the Mew Glitch, which you may already know. It's called the Trainer Fly glitch. And yes, you can use it to obtain almost every pokemon in the game, there are a few exceptions such as Kangaskhan that cannot be obtained this way. @@RealEisenBerg
17:20 frankly, I'd consider didyouknowgaming's video on the topic pretty bad. They don't actually disprove any of the evidence for the theory, they simply said that a bunch of Pokémon weigh the same, and that it has never been confirmed by anyone apart of Game Freak...but again, this doesn’t disprove it from being true. There's a bunch of things that are "canon" within the Pokémon games without Game Freak outright confirming its canonicity. One most notable example is the entire Pokémon timeline tweet that was quickly deleted and never acknowledged again
Moltres in Victory road is actually an example of good design, even though it might seem like an total opposite. Legendary birds are high level and are hidden in the places you usually can't reach if you only follow story. At the time you reach Moltres you should be a high level enough to catch him and finding him pretty much tells you that there's more to find in this world than regular pokemons you've seen before. Thanks to that you should get the idea to come back to previous routes with all your new abilities and look for the places you've missed m
Did you know that one time, a child died after listening to the lavender town theme? He haunts the games to this very day. If you find him, he will bury your character alive.
I feel like Moltres was meant to be hidden away in the last room of the Pokemon Mansion where you get the gym key. Would have been a perfect spot, I wonder why they moved to Victory Road
Mew was handed out for free at mall tours in the US. Toys R Us also had a scratch off ticket Mew giveaway where you could win a Mew trade from a cartridge that the store was given. This giveaway was limited and probably wasnt well known because every Toys R Us i went to basically gave me the whole stack of tickets and i got close to a 100 Mews
It wasn’t just the thing about the fossil being selected, it’s was more that the luck of the draw would have it that every time they had to get a water type Pokémon they fluffed it- and the game kept going, and struggling against everyone when they really badly needed a water Pokémon for the type advantage… including the Flareon who became known as the false prophet because when everyone was praying for Vaporeon and the water stone to be selected the meddlesome chat input the directions to select the fire stone instead. And all our hopes rested upon Omanite(Omastar) the Omen finally sent to save us from dying repeatedly on Cinnabar Island in the Fire Mansion against Blaine. It came along just when we needed it the most pulling our collective asses outta the fire (literally) so that we could continue the game finally.
I ran to my collection of topps cards and found a fixed version of Peacemaker Pikachu but found a Here comes trouble... card that used the Buru/Pikablu names, very neat thank you!
I will point out that there was actually 40 pokemon cut from Gen 1 as Mew was added to the game after the decision to cut the roster down to 150. thanks to a leaked prototype build of japanese blue we actually do know what 40 of these pokemon would have been! Some are thanks to interviews/the satoshi tajiri manga meanwhile for the ones that have existing data in the leaked prototype it is just the backsprites that exist in game.
amazing video, but on the unused tracks at 26:20 it is used for the clefairy dance in Gen 2. It’s just difficult to trigger the event. Correct me if i’m wrong
I remember hearing about Bill's garden in gen 1. Apparently, if traded the Raichu to the trainer (don't remember where) & revisit after beating Elite Four, he would say "The Raichu you traded me just evolved". If you then went & spoke to Bill 100 times, he would take you into the garden & give you Pikablu... 🤦🏻♀️🤣
The Secret Garden from Bill is actually accessible with Save/Surf glitch, (Look up next to water, save and close game, then turn on gameboy and use surf and will pass through wall) but pokemon you will find in this area are common ones.
Bills secret garden is accessible with gameshark walk through walls code. Turn off right before you enter the location, and you end up in a glitch city with crazy levelled pokemon. Another additional urban legend was that if you took one of these dratinis over lvl 100 and raised it from level one (when you use it in battle it would revert to lvl 1) all the way from lvl 1 to lvl 100, it would evolve into Yoshi. It did not.
Moltres is in plain sight im Victory Road so you see it and it makes you aware of the birds. For the remakes, everyone already knows the birds, so they gave it a special spot
the Japanese lavender theme IS a but different, I have a copy of Green. What they removed is some of the higher pitched tones that occur at the end of the sequence because some kids wearing headphones experienced headaches. And they really do get high pitched. I can see how they could develop a headache if they had headphones in.
@@mcam96kids can hear higher frequencies as our hearing degrades as we get older. As an adult I'm very sensitive to high frequencies and can't play old games on a CRT but that's due to a mixture of sensory issues.
@@wyleFTWCan confirm. I also played Japanese Pokemon as a kid, and when I got to Lavender Town, Blues dead Raticate stuck a Poke Flute up my no no hole.
9:55 I really think that Professor Oak was meant to be the champion because the animation in the beginning of the game; the one with Nidorino & Gengar, has been revealed throughout the years to be Agatha and Oak’s Pokemon League battle. It made perfect sense for him to be the final boss and I suspect that he was fully intended to be until late into development when Game Freak realized that Blue’s arc…just kind of abruptly ends. No closure. Nothing. My theory is once they realized this, they swapped him out for Oak as the final boss!
Hyper Beam didn't need to charge if it KO'd its target... That's brilliant! A super powerful move that doesn't need to charge as long as its going to KO. I love the idea of thinking, "Im pretty sure this will KO, but can I risk it?"
@@Zanji1234 Yeah, I was saying it would be cool if they intentionally introduced a move like that now. If you click it, and it's not going to KO then it has to charge. But if it KO's the opposing mon that turn them it doesn't need to. It would make some interesting moments and be a unique mechanic that has never (purposefully) existed before.
1:34 Wait, im confused…if that Slowed, Creepy version of the Viridian City theme was never put in the game, how can MissingNo. cause it to play? Glitches really do cause some FREAKY stuff to happen, and Red And Blue Versions were undoubtedly glitchy as HELL, THAT’S why i find it so easy to believe CreepyPastas about the original games…I’m not saying the CURSED or Haunted side of things are real, but who’s to know WHAT oddities could come out of a glitchy, old, tired, half battery-dry copy of the original Red Version?
The truck was fake too , mew only was available with an event in the 90’s in toys R Us . The other meth is the trick with the slowpoke trainer before bills house
No one has covered surfing pikachu in yellow version, gen 1! People tell me it’s fake but I know I actually did it and am shocked not one RU-vidr has made a video to show the real urban ledgers 🌊
As a kid I knew the missingno glitch. When it started to corrupt everything thats where it gave me panic as a kid 💀 like yo, leave the hall of fame alone😂 I had to restart the whole game at some point. Which was a struggle because I felt like I did someone unique. I think I also did the whole flying within the safari zone, which resulted in glitch city and the game becoming unplayable. Ah yes the mew under the truck. It was like a ritual to me, that part had to be done or else I felt missing out on it even tho nothing happened ( no golem, no level 100, no hm strength ) but still... I remember also the rumor of a super rare silver ryhorn in one of the caves, the one around the elite 4 I believe. This whole iceberg is one big recall trip 💀
15:55 reading the descripiton I totally understand why some people got headeges or so. Just play that part using headphones and you might experience it as well because some people have a hard time listening to binaural beats but the effect only works with stereo headphones/ earphones. When using headphones with binaural production the sound isn´t in your ears it´s in your head like Dolby Atmos or so.
Not getting Mew for completing the Pokédex was such a missed opportunity. Also I’ve yet to hear what the explanation for MewTwo was going to be if there was no Mew.
Mew was always going to exist even if it were confined to Gen 2. Mew was the 1st trademarked or copyrighted Pokemon from what I heard. Regigigas was Gen 4 despite the Trio it rules over being Gen 3 & then Gen 8 added 2 more members of the Regi group. Still agreed it was a missed opportunity to not get Mew as a completion reward.
when i was a child playing pokemon blue, I always made a point of trying to leave lavender town before the soundtrack drops the ear-shattering frequencies. I didn't realize that it affected more people than just me! wild
35:59 that message actually existed, but only in some ROMs of the game you could find online. I know it, because I got that message many years ago when I played the game on emulator and while using cheat codes to get the event-exclusive tickets.
@@RealEisenBerg I would say it was added by the person who extracted the ROM. iirc in The Cutting Room Floor they asked about this message, and they could not find it in the game files.
sorry but "Ghost moves against psychic will always miss" is completly wrong O_o were did you get THAT info from!? Gen 1 just had THREE Ghost type moves: Confuse Ray (well it confuses but didn't do damage), Lick (which had AMAZING 30 Base Power) and Night Shade which did Damge equal to your level (so the damage was fix). So you had ONE Damaging move that could be affected by the weakness (Lick). The Problem: ALL 3 Ghosts were Poison as well...which were weak to psychic. Also most of the "errors" in the combat like "not charging Hyper Beam" was fixed when you played the game on PokemoN Stadium 1. I also saw in a different pokemon Video on youtube that TV Tokyo actually aired Pokemon Battles with Gameboys, unfortunately i can't find the video anymore
@@Ammut6 i just don't find the video anymore. It was some kind GEN 1 Battles video and then they showed the Battles of TV Tokyo in their Pokemon Show. Mostly kids of course.
Koffing and Weezing’s prototype names managed to get a chuckle outta me since those two cities are even more toxic now, in more ways than one, than they were back in the 90s! 😂
