Idumea by Millikin University Choir.

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@brianboru2762 2 года назад

For those curious about the subject of the painting. A few folks have mentioned it's called recognition by a European Artist who went to the states during this time period. What's going on here specifically is a fairly common situation during the American Civil War which was a true brother war which is where the term Civil War comes from, a derivative of sibling war. Not Civil as being civilized or Civil as being polite. Back to the painting. The Confederate here has approached this body and realizes it's his younger brother. This happened a lot during the Civil war with relatives fighting on different sides, Lincoln's wife had brothers who were officers in the Confederate army. One record I remember is a Union soldier who was next to his officer when they routed a group of Confederates, one of the closing actions of the fight was the officer pulling out his pistol and plugging a young confederate at point blank range, the last thing the boy managed to croak out was "father" meaning the officer had just given his son a gang-land style execution. These sorts of horrors and tragedies happened all over and during the war.

@richardrelocation8961 2 года назад

The incident that you mention happened at the Battle of Malvern Hill (July 1, 1862). One SGT Driscoll was ordered to shoot the Officer leading a company of Confederates charging and firing from a clump of trees. The Officer was SGT Driscoll’s son. SGT Driscoll was overcome with grief and was later killed charging at the Confederate lines.

@JohnnyReb Год назад

Two of my ancestors who were brothers fought the opposite sides. Both survived the war. James Pierpont author of the timeless Christmas song "Jingle Bells" fought for the Confederacy. His father was a union regimental chaplain.

@JohnnyReb Год назад

For those wondering about the painting it's "Recognition" by Constant Mayer. The story in the painting is a Confederate soldier during the Civil War turns over the body of a fallen Union soldier to discover...it's his brother.

@caledonianamerican41 Год назад

Cheers, from RI

@maxwellandrews8169 Год назад

i sang this in high school choir and my god i wish i could do it again, it is one of the most powerful works and being in the middle of it hits different

@__seeker__ Год назад

Lyrics: Charles Wesley Tune: Ananias Davisson 1 And am I born to die? To lay this body down? And must my trembling spirit fly Into a world unknown? A land of deepest shade, unpierced by human thought, The dreary regions of the dead, Where all things are forgot? 2 Soon as from earth I go, What will become of me? Eternal happiness or woe Must then my portion be: Waked by the trumpet’s sound, I from my grave shall rise, And see the Judge, with glory crowned, And see the flaming skies! 3 Who can resolve the doubt That tears my anxious breast? Shall I be with the damned cast out, or numbered with the blest? I must from God be driven, Or with my Saviour dwell: Must come at His command to heaven, Or else depart to hell? 4 O, Those who wouldst not have One wretched sinner die: Who didst Thyself my soul to save From endless misery Show me the way to shun Thy dreadful wrath severe; That when Thou comest on Thy throne I may with joy repent. Amen.

@mikemanners1069 15 дней назад

how many idiots are going to repost the same lyrics.....

@GrowLLLTigeRRR 7 лет назад

Lyrics And am I born to die? To lay this body down? And must my trembling spirit fly Into a world unknown A land of deepest shade Unpierced by human thought The dreary regions of the dead Where all things are forgot? Soon as from earth I go What will become of me? Eternal happiness or woe Must then my portion be Waked by the trumpet's sound I from my grave shall rise And see the Judge with glory crowned And see the flaming skies

@Mark-ig5xn 7 лет назад

Powerful hymn!

@007mia7 5 лет назад

GrowLLLTigeRRR Is this song about the descendants of Edom? Biblically Idumea usually refers to the descendants of Edom. Thx

@danielmckinney1305 3 года назад

@@007mia7 Not quite, Idumea is merely the name of the tune that the hymn "Am I born to die?" is sung to.

@jonshiveley5237 2 года назад

@@danielmckinney1305 Yep

@mikemanners1069 15 дней назад

how many idiots are going to repost the same lyrics.....

@mikemanners1069 7 дней назад

“In your hands, my dissatisfied fellow-countrymen, and not in mine, is the momentous issue of civil war. The Government will not assail you. You can have no conflict without being yourselves the aggressors. You have no oath registered in heaven to destroy the Government, while I shall have the most solemn one to ‘preserve, protect, and defend it’.” Lincoln’s First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1861

@guido7095 5 лет назад

Verse 52 says, “In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”

@ShoutsWillEcho1 7 лет назад

And am I born to die? To lay this body down And must my trembling spirit fly Into a world unknown? A land of deepest shade Unpierced by human thought The dreary regions of the dead Where all things are forgot Soon as from earth I go What will become of me? Eternal happiness or woe Must then my portion be Waked by the trumpet sound I from my grave shall rise And see the Judge with glory crowned And see the flaming skies! And see the Judge with glory crowned And see the flaming skies!

@mikemanners1069 15 дней назад

how many idiots are going to repost the same lyrics.....

@countkilroygraf8816 5 лет назад

OAKLEY!

@gigipeedee 3 года назад

delete your channel

@dudeofdixie 3 года назад

I can't stop listening to this. I feel it in my bones. Thank you for making and posting this.

@ajtreeves 3 года назад

I'm in loooooooooove!!!! I almost couldn't stand it...Oh, my heart!!!!!

@andrewmull8954 4 года назад

Me and my choir were gonna sing this amazing song, and then quarantine happened and we never got to do it and it’s disappointing

@brandonalbro3408 3 года назад

Well, that's going to be one hell of a performance, your choir will probably sing it more from the heart instead of singing it from a the hymnal after what has been going on.

@brianmowry689 2 года назад

My choir and I*

@StormsandSaugeye 2 года назад

I still remember this from the movie Cold mountain. such a haunting song. Great job

@mikemanners1069 15 дней назад

For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment. Isa 34:5

@crystalmatrix3910 3 месяца назад

i performed this song in middle school as part of the advanced choir, and i recently rediscovered this song after forgetting what its title was for nearly a decade. im so glad i found again cuz its still gives me the same chills.

@marklee6316 6 лет назад

Americans don’t have the grand tradition of the chanting like the Catholics and orthodox do in Europe. But this is the religious music of our people, made by us and for us. It is our heritage.

@libertyordeath5630 5 лет назад

Much better than that sanctimonious crap the catholics call music anyways...

@fja3245 5 лет назад

Can't it be "both-and"? Can't both (and other things) be beautiful and transcendent in their own ways?

@garrygilmoreseyes486 5 лет назад

Is this song American though? Thought it was Anglican

@007mia7 5 лет назад

Mark Lee Idumea refers to the Edom correct? The people that descend from Esau? Is this what the songs title means? Thanks

@Medulle38 5 лет назад

Petite merde de dégénéré saxon: tu vis dans l'enfer, reste s'y. Pauvre type, pauvre âme, tu peses pas lourd... Misercordia domini!

@annjones3186 7 лет назад

The best version of this song I have heard yet!! Great job.

@fishofgold6553 4 года назад

Ann Jones, Have you heard the rendition of this song used in the film 'Cold Mountain'? In my opinion, that's the best version. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XIkPyUecsnI.html

@Vingul 3 года назад

Check out the one by Doc Watson.

@alyoshakaramazov8469 4 года назад

3/2 time and pentatonic minor to delight the soul. I found this in an old copy of the Sacred Harp and was trying to sight read it as I have never heard it performed.

@sapat664 2 года назад

Voices of angels.

@caledonianamerican41 Год назад

Amen

@spaceorbison 6 лет назад

As thou didst rejoice at the inheritance of the house of Israel, because it was desolate, so will I do unto thee: thou shalt be desolate, O mount Seir, and all Idumea, even all of it: and they shall know that I am the Lord.

@anthonyshenigo7736 5 лет назад

SpaceOrbison Excellent!

@chaboi7 4 года назад

Please, please explain...this has been one of my life's most important journeys, I need to know the significance of this song with it's title

@TheUnknownCountry 4 года назад

@king bibibear, the words were written by the great Charles Wesley in 1766, the tune by Ananias Davidson in 1816 and is found in the Sacred Harp hymn book. There are many others in there and they are the most amazing, moving and profound music I have ever heard in my life. The words of course describe Wesley’s and I’m sure our own uncertainties about what comes after, and where we all will be on that Great Day. Wesley was an Arminian in his doctrine which emphasized human responsibility in accepting God’s Salvation, and one could in theory accept it for a time and then “fall away” and reject it, hence the uncertainty. As to Idumea and the Bible verse above, it refers to the Land of Edom in the Bible, where the descendants of Essau lived. The old story goes that Essau was cheated out of his inheritance by his younger twin brother (debatable) Jacob (Israel), and they were bitter enemies after that and always Jealous. Idumea later became the city of Petra. King Herod was an Idumean. Anyway I thought I’d answer your question, I hope it is satisfactory. It is a very profound song and Sacred Harp Singing hold ms a special place for me.

@chaboi7 4 года назад

@@TheUnknownCountry thank you...I bought a copy of the original kjv of the bible and it has a graph/family tree in the beginning linking the Romans and Europe to esau so I was wondering what's up with that because when I read about future prophecy in the bible it speaks alot about esau, so much that I've embarked on this journey.....imho its one of the least talked about themes in the bible

@TheUnknownCountry 4 года назад

@king bibibear hmm, that is very interesting. I love the KJV, one of my ancestors was a translator. Thats a very special copy you have. I haven’t heard about the descent from Esau, but I know that the Romans also, and the French Kings claimed descent from the Trojans. It was the height if the Reformation and there was a lot of competing claims of legitimacy going on. There was also a claim called British-Israelism, which became widespread in the 1600s that the British (Irish, Scottish, English,Welsh and I guess the Bretons too) are descended from ancient Jews from the tribe of Judah who fled to Ireland after the first fall of the temple and brought the stone of destiny which was the stone Jacob used as a pillow when he saw his vision. According to legend a daughter of one of the last kings of Judah married into the Irish high kings, and that blood line passed into Scotland, and to King James I & VI of the KJV, something the Translators probably took into account. At the top of the title page in the original (I have a facsimile copy), you can see the hebrew letters spelling Jehovah, no other bible had that. The stone was used in the coronation of the Scottish kings, and still used today, though it is now called the stone of scone. Claims like that were common in the Late Mediaeval and Early modern period, but you can’t help but want them to be true. There are several ancient Irish books that trace the genealogy of the kings of Ireland Scotland and England back to Adam. Maybe the future prophecy’s of Esau in the Bible could be something to do with the Palestinian-Israeli conflict as well? I’m interested in prophecy myself. There is certainly something coming true.

@JohnnyReb Год назад

On the plains of Manassas they foolishly believed it'd be over quickly. In the cornfield at Sharpsburg, the frozen fields at Fredericksburg, and the mountain side of Kennesaw they fell like leaves in the autumn. At Gettysburg they were cut to pieces by hot iron. At Franklin they froze to death. At a place they called "The Wilderness" they burned. At Shiloh a place of peace was desecrated by war's cruel and heavy hand. At Murfreesboro friend and foe alike sang together. Within a day over 7,000 voices were forever silenced. At Chickamauga the river ran red for miles. Well deserving of the name an ancient people gave it. "River of Death". They died in the mud at Petersburg and they starved at Vicksburg. At places known as Camp Chase, Andersonville, and Elmira the Devil laughed. Satisfied or perhaps bored the archangel of death claimed his last harvest of souls at Appomattox... *And folded his black wings til the next season of harvest.* **1861~1865 LEST WE FORGET** Blue or Gray may they all rest in peace.

@caledonianamerican41 Год назад

Amen

@gwencurry3405 5 лет назад

Does anyone know anything about this painting?

@adiofhiowfawjfjalwdfjk1300 5 лет назад

It's "recognition" by a painter named Constant Mayer en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constant_Mayer

@granthawkins8956 10 месяцев назад

It is enough to say that a dead fly brought me here... somehow.

@paulstrength8574 6 лет назад

Stop and think about what the words are saying! Powerful!

@chaboi7 4 года назад

What do you get from all this?

@chaboi7 4 года назад

And what does the title have to do with the song? Thanks in advance

@tomsmith1803 3 года назад

I'm not a native-english speaker,but I'm attracted by this song.

@caydenb4324 3 года назад

They are saying so fa la

@coolbob5781 3 года назад

Guys the line “And am I born to die” should give a big hint at what this song is about

@DarthMercanto 3 года назад

I'd love to know the name of the portrait used in this video.

@KlimSanquine 3 года назад

Recognition de Constant Mayer.

@moitoboi2970 4 года назад

Masterpeice

@Mark-ig5xn 8 лет назад

What is the group singing this version? Love the song, just used to the acapella version.

@loganvoorhis 8 лет назад

+Donatus Magnus This is the Millikin University Choir. The album with this recording, "Hearts All Whole", is on Spotify.

@Mark-ig5xn 8 лет назад

+Logan Voorhis Thank you very much!

@charlescrowell4615 6 лет назад

the far and destinate country, from whose Bourne no man returns

@HamPilgrimBL 3 года назад

Quite a haunting hymn.

@dlee3710 9 лет назад

Idumea or, Edom fought with Israel and was scattered and enslaved. Here the north and south comparison is apt. Religion, through song and prayer is man's failure to apprehend what is beyond himself. That does not mean we are all duggers or palins. Their public failures can only reflect the truth that it is God who reaches for us, not the reverse.

@watupbrooo 6 лет назад

David Lee dude, that’s the best and most informative comment I’ve probably ever seen on RU-vid.

@CelticBearWoman 6 лет назад

David Lee, Edom did not fight with Israel, but against it. Edom was always oppositional to Israel, even in the womb before birth. The Lord told the mother, Rebekkah, "two nations are in your womb." (they will go separate ways--not together.) Edom ("Red") is another name for Esau, who was born with red hair covering his body with his fraternal twin brother Jacob who was born smooth. Edom, the firstborn twin, sold his birthright (and therefore his position as firstborn) showing "he despised his birthright." Any judgments that came on Edom's descendants were by their own choices to stand against Israel. This is recorded in the Bible in Genesis, the Prophets, and the New Testament.

@MartinBuzora 6 лет назад

I think this was a misunderstanding with words. Pretty sure what Gabriel Grills meant above was that Edom fought with Israel, as in, fighting against each other. Like when you try to avoid a fight with a spouse and say, "I'm not going to fight with you." :)

@dlee3710 5 лет назад

@@watupbrooo im just a wretched sinner, but thanks

@oldmangimpsuit 11 лет назад

nice song

@caledonianamerican41 2 года назад

Beautiful part of American history

@MrEpeeFencer Месяц назад

Half the nation razed to the ground by a tyrant to the point where parts of it haven't recovered to this day, and probably never will. 600,000 dead directly from the war, and hundreds of thousands more dead indirectly, not to mention all those who were permanently maimed. And then to rub salt in the wound 160 years of racial strife that could have been avoided if the abolitionist movement had just been allowed to end slavery organically instead of what that tyrant did. I wouldn't call it "beautiful".

@chako380 7 лет назад

красивая картина! Еще бы знать автора.

@ГеоргийБолотник Год назад

Констант Майер, вроде, автор этой картины.

@sufficientgrace8375 7 лет назад

Wow !

@soupertrooper3864 6 месяцев назад

Ya'll should listen to this Sacred Harp style... this is good but it's much better that way

@philipians1635 10 лет назад

whats the painting KlimSanquine

@KlimSanquine 10 лет назад

"Recognition- North and South" by Constant Mayer.

@russhowerton6805 10 месяцев назад

There's not a more beautiful song.

@kingkoi6542 2 месяца назад

Agnus Dei by Samuel Barber Te Deum De Angelis In Paradisium by Gabriel Faure Hymn of the Cherubim by Tchaikovsky My sinful soul by Sirin choir Five variants of Dives and Lazarus by Ralph Vaughn Williams ...Just some other titles that are amazing!

@garrisennielsen8673 9 месяцев назад

Houses are better together than apart

@Inurwalls4everandever 7 лет назад

Singing this song in choir can't hit those high notes (alto)

@fasiapulekaufusi6632 3 года назад

Charles Wesley's hymn

@thenightlamp1 2 года назад

Current 93

@nyle3290 6 лет назад

Idumea/Rome

@chaboi7 5 лет назад

I thought idumea was all of europe?

@AltaAnastazYah 5 лет назад

@@chaboi7 rome and its spawned descendent nations; Europe and America.

@chaboi7 5 лет назад

@@AltaAnastazYah the bible sure does have harsh words for end times idumea

@Ikenna1901 4 года назад

😭😂

@AltaAnastazYah 5 лет назад

From these comments most ppl dont know what this song infers. Wow..they are blinded and lost. 😏

@user-nj1zu2nf1x 5 лет назад

What a useless comment. Why dont you share your supposed knowledge... I'll wait

@bryanm5140 4 года назад

It means edom will be judged in the end times for being the wicked in the bible.

@chaboi7 4 года назад

@@bryanm5140 the question is "who is Edom"?

@bryanm5140 4 года назад

Yea.If they knew what the song meant they wouldn't like it.Or would they??????

@bryanm5140 4 года назад

@@chaboi7 idumea is Roman for Edom.

@justforever96 7 лет назад

My God, what have they done? They've ruined Idumea! The original Sacred Harp version is far better. This is like someone's attempt to "improve" on it, but they didn't. I'd like it a lot better if not for the fact I must compare it to the original.