If Dr. Eggman Decides to Stay as Mr. Tinker (Comic Dub) (ft. OngakuVA) 

Anytime! You did absolutely amazing, Tyler! Looking forward to working with you again as well!

DUDE YOUR EGGMAN IS KILLER \m/ Sounds so professional and you hit everybeat perfectly !

That's SICK 😱u sound like Mike Pollock 💯

It's Tinker. Mr. Tinker. But yes, you played him well.

You nailed Eggman's voice and your performance was great!

"That you are. If you will excuse me I am gonna see Belle. You know, your sister otherwise known as THE ONLY KID WORTH MY TIME."

He has an AI so he isn't mindless.

Metal Sonic isn't mindless.

"Father. How could you."

He said MINDLESS machines. Not works of art.

Maybe he could be one of Sonics friends

@@dalaxdercrisper957 What?

Even better, it could've been a straight-up mainline story. Edit: I stand corrected. Issue #12 had me at with my pants down.

Could be in play in the Phantasy Star timeline. Remember, everything is cannon to Phantasy Star, including moments like this and Memes. Seriously, the Sanic meme is cannon. Crazy right?

@@JustVince7810 SEGA is too lame for that

But he doesn’t want to cure cancer! He want to built his Eggman land!

@@shadowclaw7210 WHY NOT BOTH? If he's GOOD Eggman now, he could build eggman land and give a free cancer curing pill to everybody who visits

I mean, the robotization PSA they released as part of the marketing for Sonic Forces kinda implies he can do that (Note: Eggman is not a medical doctor. If you are unsure if robotization is good for you, please consult an actual doctor on the matter)

@@shadowclaw7210 EGGMAN LAND, NOW WITH THE CURE FOR CANCER (50 cent fee applies for the cure, no entry to the park required.)

@@shadowclaw7210 I see what you referenced. Lol

People that remember Julian Kintobor from another timeline: "Don't worry, we're used to this."

The 1% who said Jim carry Don’t I exist?

He changed his name to Eggman to fuck with sonic canonically

@@user-uw9io4hl5g wdym? The name robotnik was used for the American games so sega of America can use it and they did use the term robotnik for generations

@SparklingJam Yeah my bad. I was thinking of the name used in the Archie comics

That would at least not be lame, it would use a flaky premise of Eggman to drive a better plot through Starline. This here is a very good production, but it just throws out every reason Eggman might have to be Eggman and reduces it to "he was evil for evil's sake", just to make him "good for good's sake", in an equally flat way. What, "people appreciate what I do"? How does that spell him remembering ANYTHING about being Eggman, except there was nothing to remember? Oh yeah, and "I have a life I actually like", so Eggman all this time is SIMPLY hiding some self-hate or some other convenient psychobabble handwave? These kinds of explanations, like "boys pull your hair because they like you", and "people are being mean because they're just hurt inside." That's just the usual, constant parade of flimsy excuses, that exist to be widely applicable without having to consider any details, or make INTERESTING STORIES about the details. You could swap them randomly. Starline for example is being mean BECAUSE he likes Eggman, and some other character might pull a girls hair just to spread his own misery. These explanations are not RELIANT on the symptoms, they're just allegations that people want to believe in to make their world seem black-and-white. And it doesn't even make a person good, just tribalistic in favor of only few ACCEPTABLE personalities. Not unlike the tribalistic American sentiment today. Interesting stories come from the grey areas, like how do you handle Eggman, how does Belle handle Eggman, when there IS a reason he is Eggman, and he LIKES it? And everything in Eggmans characterization DOES stink of him loving to be who he is. He IS an egomaniac, to the core of his PERSONALITY. You can't just write that off as him "remembering" other ways to be, and now his temperament is completely upturned. Mr.Tinker worked better because it WAS an exception to everything Eggman loves, or KNOWS, since he DID forget being Eggman. It's like the HAZE of not knowing what Eggman knows MAKES you good, so what does that make Eggman? Correct, instead of GOOD? There CAN be a good Eggman by all means, but that requires what actually good people do: some work to find the good potential IN the character he already has. Without Eggman's character, I wouldn't even REALIZE Belle's character, and the excellent story depicting having a bad father, in a child-friendly context. I think that's better, than having feel-good stories for adults or children.

@@sboinkthelegday3892 after watching the video again, I agree with what was said in the comment.

And in terms of the metal virus arc. Robotnik would even be forced to have to reveal to sonic and tails he remembers we used to be so he can help them create a cure for the virus.

@@sboinkthelegday3892 Or... for a more compelling story, Eggman's brain has been scarred physically in a way no amount of reasoning or emotions can really fix, where he can remember, but something in his head broke and his behavior went for an U-turn and ONLY after healing (from the use of the Chaos Emeralds as the miracle gems these are), he'd go back to his true self, his original self (not healing may sound like an opinion, but this negligence can ultimately can cost Mr. Tinker's life anyway, because brain damage be like that... also, if the Emeralds are used to cure him from the Metal Virus, it _could_ happen without anyone knowing and everything would proceed normally after the Metal Virus)

Agree, if he can't bring back his idol, he will become the idol. Starline has so much potential and he is a master plannen, although he is a little bit of arrogant and naive

I like this comment, he would be unstoppable compared to the normal eggman

Yeah, Starline would be playing ball out of his league 10 times over if he tried to make a name for himself as a villain. And Eggman would be the only person who could figure out a reverse to the metal virus, making any attempt by Starline a failure out of the gate.

A epic way would also be Mr Thinker and Tails teaming up and defeat one villain(like Eggman Nega) while Super Sonic defeats another villain.

your right eggman as a protector would be amazing!

By this logic, imagine how much better Metal Sonic would be if Eggman actually had the time to sit down and improve him some more

Does this even makes sens ?

​@@DreaguiVII Yeah; Eggman could still be himself, but that doesn't mean seeing to conquer the world through fear and destruction. For as evil as Eggman is, he's still a genius who's always ahead of all other engineers and scientists of their world. Almost literally, the amount of good he could do through his intellect alone is limitless!

Only problem with that, is Metal seemingly has a Consciousness Yes, it's digital but he became the Metal Overlord to beat Sonic lost and choose to go to the Eggman base He wasn't sent the Instructions to go to the Base, he did it on his own. Metal is not Mindless he's the Perfect AI in a Powerful body

@@shelbybayer200 también es posible que metal Sonic acabé traicionando a starlight para ser el sucesor de eggman

Two ideas that came to mind… 1. Instead of Metal being reprogrammed (not sure that’s possible), maybe he has his equivalent of a whatever motivated him to become the villain of Sonic Heroes. We know in the games that Metal Sonic is an ever-evolving, ever-improving enemy, that has an insane copy ability. But the most terrifying thing that Metal Sonic has copied over the years, were other people’s personalities. If Metal came to the realization that “if I’m so powerful, why do I have to work for Eggman?”… That could seriously become a problem. It could be an “JLU Amazo” scenario, where Metal initially sided with Starline, and goes on to copy the abilities of all of the main heroes… It’s when Starline tries to boss him around that the trouble REALLY starts. 2. A story like this could actually give Belle more of a front seat in the story. Since her “Dad” is there, she might not feel as bottled-up around others. I imagine when she’s around Mr. Tinker, it brings out the best in her. Heck, in this AU, maybe she actually considers learning how to fight? I imagine Tinker would be hesitant, cause he’s not an evil inventor anymore… But after some prodding, he does design some non-lethal combat upgrades for Belle, so she can protect herself. Heck, maybe she’s the one who finally goes toe to toe with Hyper Metal Sonic?… Ehhh, scratch that, Sonic’s likely the one to finally bring down Metal.

@@flashtyb Not a bad idea! 👍

I would expect that there would be one comic alone from the consequences of Eggman having his Memory back. Because Shadow is not the only one wanting to see him pay just remember the debate the Chaotix had. And Mr. Tinker proposing the punishment of basically Community service. Helping rebuild and Repair of what he has destroyed.

Sometimes, being brought back down to reality from the heights of megalomania can bring clarity some cant see, or have seen so much it doesn't faze them until they see it in a scenario like this. A surprise it may be, but a welcome one always.

@@mr.reborn5518 snap back to reality -eminem

I mean, Eggman being mature was normal back in the SA2 days.

I did he chosen a better Life he found Love

He is a very old man now. Ageless, like most characters, but OLD. Old and...in the end, tired. The mania and drive is faded/fading. He finally doesn't need or want the world.

Fat Chance.

With Sonic Prime we might see Mr Tinker again

I wonder if we'll have a clash of the 2 realities

Darth Revan had that arc too

There was a Detective Conan movie with a character like that.

Fleetway Super Sonic had that arc up till the final issues of the comic.

Magneto from Ultimate universe for example.

Old habits die hard. When you live your life consumed by rage or hate or spite or whatever it is. It always comes creeping back. Its honestly a very realistic take that depends on execution. It doesn't matter how good they had it eventually nothing changes the corrosion the past deeds have dealt to a villain sometimes.

sadly, this wasn't his true self really, but rather a twisted personality of sorts, which in itself is enough to make it less wholesome

@@Eldoofus yes and no. Mr. Tinker is the good within Eggman that was given the opportunity to be realized however brief that opportunity was. It was no mere illusion.

@@andresmarrero8666 The Eggman we know is how he really wants to be, losing your memory doesn't change what you are

@@Eldoofus It is not simple amnesia, the good within Eggman was given a chance to be realized and that side didn't wish to be buried again.

@@andresmarrero8666 then why did he *choose* to be evil?

🤣

Belle: Because I'm his REAL daughter. And well, I'm not crazy, like you. Starline: RrrrrrraaaaAAAAAAAAARRGH-

​@ceecee6521 Man this feels different after Sonic Frontiers Dlc

@@ceecee6521Starline got that Archie Robotnik mental meltdown from issue 200

A poetic way of saying it, and I couldn't agree more.

@@mr.reborn5518 Same here.

That was beautiful. 1000/10

what a beautiful comment!

Perfect

This likely would have happened if Eggman hadn’t forgot about his time as Mr tinker at first.

Thing is when Sonic confronted Eggman in the zombots arc and questioned why he didn't want to go back to being mister tinker Eggman actually pauses at it for a while. Because that is an actual possibility that he might've accepted.

I honestly think one of the reasons the Mr. Tinker persona vanished so quickly is because he hadn't had any truly memorable experiences as Mr. Tinker to really cling to. Everything Mr. Tinker did was just Eggman bleeding through into the more friendly persona, even the creation of Belle in a way. One idea I keep running through my head... what if, instead of just leaving him ignorant in the village, they had decided to educate Mr. Tinker, and tell him the truth about what he'd done, and what he'd done? None of the aggressive hypno/shock therapy shit to try and bring his memory back, just _teach Mr. Tinker about his past._ Let Mr. Tinker form his own opinions about the horrors he's unleashed on the world. Let Mr. Tinker develop his own feelings about it. Add some mental and emotional strength to the Mr. Tinker persona so that when the Eggman memories come flooding back, there is something there to resist going back to the old Ego and Megalomania. The meek humbleness gave way immediately, but what if all that pride had been met with the horror and revulsion of already having been told about what he'd done? Instead of just going "oh yes, that's what I was doing, BACK TO IT", it would be his old memories stacking onto the _new_ memories and experiences and feeling about his old deeds, and his old ways. Mr Tinker was meek, and afraid. But after being told about his old self, he's terrified and horrified and disgusted by what he used to be. When the memories come back, he realizes firsthand what he used to be like... but he's a new man now, and can choose to be better than he was. And now that he has his old memories back, he understands his old ways better than ever... and has the courage and confidence of knowing _exactly_ what he's capable of, to potentially even lend his assistance to permanently undoing the remnants of danger presented by his old assets, Mr Tinker becoming arguably the Restoration's greatest asset in cleansing the world of what remains of the Eggman Empire. I can dream.

Yes, it would have been nice. Still waiting for EVIL EGGMAN BE EVIL YOU CAN'T DREAM OF NICER REALITY fans come and throw their temper tantrum even here. Considering that even surrounded by robots if Eggman doesn't have meaningful people in his life, even if he has his empire, he will die alone and people will destroy his empire and remember him as manchild and tyrant, that would be his legacy

I can't help but hear that voice as Liquid Snake from MGS1.

But starline has no canon voice-

OH U MEANT IT LIKE THAT

30 years *and* potential brain damage

Sadly it's non-cannon.

In the Riders universe, he made Robotnik Corp and MeteorTech to help people but there's really not alot of details about those two companies, there's a few details and hints giving us an idea what sort of help they're offering but not enough to really understand them fully.

Keeping in mind this was also the first time he experienced true happiness.

reminds me of that kids next door episode where its revealed the "arch enemies" of the KND are actually brainwashed former KND members and no matter what they do both sides know they cant be saved making the sadness more apparent when they inevitably fall back under the brainwashign controll in the end. it shows the heros and villians never were destined or assured to end up on the sides they did.

Wait, what did dr. Eggman do to Ukraine??

I have no idea how you managed to bring up Ukraine in a *Sonic the Hedgehog* video.

Unnecessary politics brought to a videogame/comic video, which does not have any parallels to real life.

Let’s keep the war and political talk on videos where it’s actually relevant to the video, yeah?

Yeah I wish we could have gotten more of mr tinker

Then stares somberly, almost as if he wished to have never awoken.

Mr. Tinker laughs maniacally after seeing his new ice cream machine works and proceeds to give ice cream to the children.

@@ROLITO-G-243 Secret button on the back that turns the ice cream machine into a ice cream launcher

​@@goodboi1725well, that sounds fun after all

@@goodboi1725I mean, ice cream snowball fights?

@@conwool2609 Most effective during the summer season. Quite a good distraction for the occasional foe.

Imagine he reprogrammed metal to be like his son

@@captainakumya9522 maybe something like gemerl

Belle and regrogramed metal sonic: siblings! siblings! Siblings! Siblings! *Does the sibling dance!*

Perhaps he gave Metal the choice of what to do. It would make sense as Tinker.

It would be a great character arc for metal sonic because he could learn more about what it means to have free will and could have him be on a journey to find his purpose.

an Eggman tails hybrid... with a mustache, welp I'm having nightmares

Agree

A Sonic What if...

This... this is IDW

WAIT THIS ISNT CANON?! God dang, these fans are fantastic at creating wonderous work!

That's the Sega Mandates for you. Can't ever be allowed to stray too far from status quo.

Me, an intellectual: *Dr. Robotonic*

He really so be giving off the Pip Pip the doodle doo energy. Hopefully Sega sees it and goes "You know what? You guys are onto something." And that becomes his Canon voice.

Why, those other Villains could be his motivations for world domination at that point. A 'Peace by the Sword' concept, where in one of these villains destroyed the village he worked so hard to protect, causing him to come to a conclusion that the people need a protector beyond sonic.

​​@@andrewhornbeck526hat would have been so good for Eggmans' character. That is a disturbingly brilliant character development. Even with the return to the status quo, there is forever a change for the IDW Eggman.

It’s a new continuity but think about it he’s been doing this for almost 30 years

Better than saying "Sonic I am your father". And choosing to stay at the Death Egg as it explodes...

@@stewiegriffin8002 that's...oddly specific Stewie, did you dream that of you and Brian again?

No... Maybe...

@@stewiegriffin8002 I'm still haunted by your Brian Stewie puppy's Stewie

Yes I would like to see a follow up

It depends. Orbot and Cubot would definitely be loyal to Mr Tinker but I can see them sticking around with Starline to monitor him, working with rouge to spy on him kind of like how they spied on the zeti during the metal virus arc.

Well according to IDW, it isn’t really an alternative version, just a kinder personality when he loses his memory after Sonic Forces.

@@TempestGhost Kinda makes ya wonder if that part of him still exists.

@@ceecee6521 Well in one of the issues during the Metal Virus series, Eggman did show some liking to being Mr. Tinker and wondered if he should have chose that path.

@@TempestGhost He should have because I'm willing to help Shadow kill him.

Yeah me to

Yeah

Well probably not, since it was eggmans idea. If eggman did decided to stay as mr tinker he would have never thought the of the virus and never created it.

@@UntalentedBrick I think he already had the virus before the war. By the time Starline got him back to his old self he already had a backup plan that is the metal virus

@Caleb Vela The character cleaning the window looks like her.

Why can't you have sonic without eggman

@@alphanalghali1081 Well, Eggman is his most iconic, reoccurring villain. I mean, yeah, there have been others, as well, but who else would be Sonic's nemesis?

@@devonmcdaniel1176 not to mention they kinda have a similar relationship compared to Batman and Joker but with less civilian deaths.

I feel like it would start off with working with starline who would take on the robotnik title as opposed to eggman since he doesn't look like an egg at all. After a set point, he has Metal Sonic attack Windmill village. Results in him being defeated by either the town OR Sonic is called in to help by Mr. Tinker. He would shock them by saying he's going to fix him up, only to reveal he's going to reprogram him to remove his evil directives, as well as upgrade him. I'd take inspiration from "Sonic The Hedgehog: Breaking The Code", giving him a holographic emitter to make him look more like hedgehog like, as well as giving him a voice since this Eggman would actually be open to feedback from those working with him. Course as you suggested, one bit of programming would persist... His dislike of sonic.

But then they'd have to make a new world conquering villain to use for future games and that's hard work.😩

@@mill2712 Maybe Starline could be the new main antagonist?

Well i guess still sever him as his master "mr tinker" did create him

His best

I like to imagine he'd meet Belle and be absolutely floored by how sweet and clingy she would be as a little sister.

TRUE!!!