If I had my Sim Racing time again, I would save myself £23000!

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In this video I talk about what I would do if I had my sim racing time all over again. I certainly wouldn't do what I did first time around. Below are some of the products I speak about and what I would consider to be good solid purchases.
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@-siberian- Год назад

Probably the most solid advice ever to be given in most hobbies, whether that is simracing or something else. Buy cheap and second hand to get into it, and once you know you want to continue buy the best you can afford/would ever want, don't fall into the continious upgrade path. Most high end simracing stuff will last you years, if not decades, so be smart and buy the stuff you wanna race the rest of your life!

@xXxBo5sANaCxXx Год назад

02:45 DO NOT get these pedals ASETEK FORTE are not TRUE loadcell pedals, they work the same way as potentiometer pedals, they messure TRAVEL not pressure of your foot

@davecamyt Год назад

I suggest doing some research and not basing your conclusions one one video 👍

@xXxBo5sANaCxXx Год назад

@@davecamyt i did, it uses like 10kg loadcell (or so) and a small spring to press it, Dan Suzuki did great breakdown on it, its not a pressure based break pedal Asetek got a lot of backlash for it that they had to make a video about it lol

@davecamyt Год назад

Yes I've seen Dan's video 👍

@mattboggs6304 Год назад

If you've enjoyed playing racing games for years, and think you might like to get into sim racing, I'd say skip the entry level wheel and pedals that you typically find at your local store. Just buy a Moza R5 wheel and pedal combo, or the Fanatec equivalent from the start. Odds are good that you'll want to upgrade from your Logitech or Thrustmaster within a month anyway. That's what I wish I would have done. It might be double the initial cost to you, but paying that upfront is better than paying for a starter wheel and then paying for the upgrade a month later.

@danielBarnweezy Год назад

Amazon Tube frame cockpit + G920 + HP Reverb g2 > Moza R5 bundle + Fanatec LC CSL > SimLab GT1 EVO > traded VR for triple 32s.

@MrJMHP Год назад

Regarding breaks I started with Heusinkveld Sprints witch they were ok, then upgrade to the Ultimate and that was a good upgrade... but finally I went to the VRS DirectForce Pro Pedals and that... Was by far the best pedals I owned and I don't feel any more the need for a upgrade.

@robbown164 Год назад

Heard this off several people and it's very much glossed over in a lot of videos. VRS are adjustable in every dimension, cost the same as Sprints and are often compared to Ultimates as being the better product. For the money I don't know why you'd go anywhere else. I love mine.

@davecamyt Год назад

I've never used the VRS pedals so I can't recommend them. 👍

@Bloekstoff93 Год назад

I can confirm this experience. Upgraded from the Clubsport V1 pedals to the VRS while a friend upgraded to the ultimate plus. I like the VRS much better and the build quality is unmatched for that price. They are unfortunately a bit tricky to get as the sell out very fast for obvious reasons :D

@LucasJodokast Год назад

I started off as cheap as u can get with an old Logitech Driving Force that sat in my wardrobe for 20 years, the 180° sucked though so i got a used G27, combined with my OG Vive its mad, ill probably upgrade the headset eventually but atm its fine for my skill level, looking at getting a sim rig next as my desk & chair is kinda jank

@costafilh0 6 месяцев назад

Spend as little as possible to start and always think about bang for buck end game. Or you'll spend 10 times as much upgrading every now and then and spend more time testing and getting used to new equipment than actually enjoying it.

@Remzly Год назад

A lot of peoples problems with motion sickness or anything similar on vr is just from running it on a less than ideal system. Having a pc with good hardware and decent fps that doesnt fluctuate helps significantly

@RonRon0110 Год назад

I have all of this but sadly I still get sick :(

@tclowes20 Год назад

Great recommendations Dave. One extra tip for anyone who wants to upgrade pedals and needs a sturdier rig is to build one out of wood. Lumber cost me £20 for 14 metres of 2x4. Box of wood screws for £5. Got a driver's seat for £30 from a scrapyard. A few hours of measuring, cutting and screwing later and the rig was more than sturdy enough for a Fanatec CSW 2.5 and CSL elite loadcell pedals. 3 years later and it's still holding up fine. Much more rigid than the cheap steel rigs and easily modifiable like aluminium profile. Saved me atleast a few hundred quid compared to a decent profile rig and seat

@0verfiend Год назад

My F1GT is pretty sturdy, for the thin steel it uses. but I used some spacers to make it so. The figment was not tight without some extra work. About 20 big steel washers worked. I’ve thought about making a sim rig kit people can build out of steel. Similar to the F1GT I have, but with Corten steel panels and the rounded square or rectangular tubing. Somewhere like Coremark metals in minneapolis (formerly discount steel ).

@0verfiend Год назад

It could easily be bolted together with no flex with some solid hardware. Heavier but cheaper than the profile rigs. We use that steel all the time making steel walls. I always tell people a plow truck could hit that thing and the concrete footings will break or come up before the steel gives. Though we pour 12 inch diameter concrete footing that are 4 feet deep and use at least two for every panel. All panel less than 10 ft in length. Where am I goin with this. Wood is just easier and cheaper for people.

@bikerboy3k Год назад

14 meters of 2x4 for 20 quid ? I don't believe that for a second. Where did you buy it from ?

@tclowes20 Год назад

@@bikerboy3k Built my rig back In 2020 during the first lockdown. Luckily have a lumber yard a 5 minute walk down the road from me, I asked how much I'd get for a £20 note and he gave me 14 metres, not sure what current prices are as I haven't needed more since.

@pedroportella3134 Год назад

I bought a brand new MOZA R9 base with the GS steering (1 week of use and enjoying a lot). Watched this video and think: Why not MOZA R9 instead of Fanatic DD? I'm curious about Dave Cam opinion about MOZA R9.

@alexx7430 Год назад

Also gloves are very important and a lot of noobs dont realize that, I only have a CSL Elite and my hand blisters a lot if i dont use gloves

@productconsoomer6645 Год назад

I can recommend Simjack Pro pedals for 300 euros + tax, 3 loadcells, really customizable, clutch has bite point, 200kg brake LC. I started with 2 pedal set t300rs, then t3pa, then tlcm and now Simjacks, they're so much better than the tlcms.

@richardople Год назад

Thanks Dave you’ve literally described a similar upgrade path that I went through it it definitely makes a lot of sense. Thank you for affirming my experience. I’m currently in the process of saving for the VRS DFP wheelbase.

@robbown164 Год назад

While you're there, the VRS pedals are sublime.

@richardople Год назад

@@robbown164 I just saw the review from Boosted Media for the VRS pedals. Definitely have my interest peaked. I was eyeing out the Invicta's or Forte's as well.

@fredsas12 Год назад

I thought the VRS wheel was locked to iRacing account holders only? I was under the assumption that one actually requires an active iRacing subscription to even buy and maintain one.

@jfredett 10 месяцев назад

@@richardople I have them, they are every bit as fantastic as the review suggests. I've been using them for about 9 months now, and just picked up the clutch. I have had zero issues with them, and swapping to the red spring wasn't nearly as difficult as it was made out to be.

@richardople 10 месяцев назад

@@jfredett and @DaveCam, so I took your advice with the wait patiently, save and buy once mentality. I paid in cash for the VRS DFP Wheelbase, Cube Control GT Sport rim and the Asetek Invicta Series-S hydraulic pedals. It's absolutely transformed my sim racing immersion and experience. Thank you mate!

@Sushi227 Год назад

One thing I'd add to the video. Lots of people don't have the space for a full rig, in which case a quality foldable wheel stand is an excellent solution. I've been using the GT Omega Apex with a Moza R9 and Fanatec V3s for about six months now and its been an excellent setup. Don't forget to get locking casters if you're using an office chair, avoid Ikea chairs since they use non-standard sizes for their casters.

@murph1414 Год назад

Or a 2x4 under the front wheels to lift them off the ground 😉

@__m2c__ Год назад

It took me a while but I did find some locking casters for IKEA chairs on Amazon UK.

@BurningBroadcast Год назад

You can also put the rear wheels of your chair into a pair of shoes, which will also lock it in place. Old trick but it's free and works

@Phaucs Год назад

@@BurningBroadcast next level racing also offers the GT-Lite or F-GT-Lite, that thing can fold to about the size of a briefcase and offers the full driving experience of a rig without the cost or inconvenience, i've heard people say there is a bit of forward and backward flex which isn't great for when you're on the brakes but i plan on picking mine up soon from a local shop and with my setup against a wall i don't expect it to be an issue. If it is i'll come back here and kick myself and warn yall

@pulsefiend 15 дней назад

i went with the next level racing dd stand

@brownie3609 Год назад

Really helpful Dave. For somebody who subscribes but has no set up at all yet this has been extraordinarily useful. When I saw the vlog title I thought you were going to come in at around 10k but 5k for a very solid set up makes things very viable. Thank-you

@f15strikeeagle10 Год назад

Why don't you recommend the alpha mini? I've used both and can't see any major difference besides compatibility and simagic having better build quality. I'd agree on the moza wheel bases as they feel quite notchy but simagic alpha mini is the go to IME and has made a lot of friends happy.

@DeltaInsanity Год назад

When you mention Moza bases feeling notchy, which models are you referring to? Because I just got myself an R9 and there's absolutely no notchiness that I can feel anyway. I did JUST receive it though, so I'm unsure if there's been a hardware or software update to address this.

@rod272727 Год назад

vrs pedals are my favorite....more feel than the HK Sprints

@claudiojaramillo5177 Год назад

I might add that for lots of folk who use their pc for work and sim racing (such as myself) a big ultra wide display is the perfect choice in terms of productivity and gaming

@Sushi227 Год назад

Ultrawides are also great for sim racers in small spaces who don't have space for triples (or can't afford them) and don't want to buy a VR headset. Substantial upgrade over a single standard widescreen.

@DeltaInsanity Год назад

@@Sushi227 when you mention ultrawides, are you referring to 21:9 monitors or 32:9?

@Sushi227 Год назад

@@DeltaInsanity To me at least, ultrawides are 21:9, super ultrawides are 32:9

@DeltaInsanity Год назад

@@Sushi227 gotcha. And do you run one of these for your sim racing? If so, how big is it, what’s your viewing distance to the screen and what kind of FOV are you able to use?

@Sushi227 Год назад

@@DeltaInsanity I use a Gigabyte G34WQC, and for the price I'm happy with it. I run a weird FOV since I sit relatively far back, I've had to tweak it quite a bit to find something that works for my setup.

@DeanoDrives Год назад

Here is my advice to anyone with a £1000 budget: - G27 Used, it comes with a clutch and buttons on the h-shifter which can be used as a handbrake for drifting (something that is missing from the later G29 models) - an aluminium rig, it made my G27 feel like a new wheel! So much better than a flimsy desk or steel rig - a vr headset such as Rift S, since going to VR I've never looked back. They are cheaper than triple screens, take up no extra space and you just can't beat it for realism. Only after all of this did I then go for a complete Fanatec setup (CSL DD, shifter and handbrake) You are 90% of the way there with a solid rig, VR and a trusty old G27.

@Deadbeatbeats Год назад

Upgrading bit by bit makes it feel personal imo. I dont understand the people that empty their wallets just to get bored and sell it later. Great video!👌

@Max__apex Год назад

Very real proposition

@stefanpetrov8 Год назад

I somewhat agree except the screens, since triples will need serious firepower which would mean upgrading the PC if you don't have a decent one (1.5K+ Euros nowadays). Think a good wheel is more important than having triples. A single 32" 144+Hz will do fine, I'd prioritize wheel. I feel like Moza have a really affordable ecosystem, you can get all in it for like a grand (R9, CS, SRP pedals). Heard some horror stories with the QR on the Fanatec DD, so am a bit meh.

@hughmungous6417 9 месяцев назад

Where did the $18000 difference come from, did you change complete setup 18 times ? With $5000 worth of gear and $23000 spent, perhaps share what decision lost you the most money. Wow, great video, thank you.

@davecamyt 9 месяцев назад

I changed a lot, time and time again. Each time losing money. 🫤

@hughmungous6417 9 месяцев назад

@@davecamyt New Subscriber today, been watching for a few months here and there. Great stuff.

@FranktheTank92 Год назад

Funny, I did pretty much exactly what u recommend here over the last months :D Bought a used T500RS last year, built a aluminium profile rig over the winter and just recently bought the Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals. And these Pedals are insane, I´m getting faster each day since I use them ( which is only for a few days yet), they are REALLY great.. And Im really on a budget up till now, i bought used profiles from the company my gf works at and was under 300€ for the whole rig including seat.(altough atmittedly the seat could be better^^)

@cgrf45 Год назад

Just bought a used Thrustmaster TMX Pro for $100USD. Also the brake pedal upgrade and Next Level Racing Stand Lite. Total $220USD. After a week I want to upgrade everything.

@benjimc1 Год назад

From my experience I would say a decent rig comes before pedal upgrade

@thereverent117 Год назад

i honestly dont understand why so few people are recommending simagic.. their pedalset is about 700 for a 3 piece hydraulic pedal set.

@tdhitchins Год назад

Noticed the Si Turnbull aluminium rig there Dave. Just bought one of his a few months back, finally got myself a rig! I’d personally disagree with the VR option. I had the oculus quest 2 then upgraded to the hp reverb 2 and thought it was a big upgrade. Close up graphics were very similar tbf but the world or stadium/track you drive in appears much more solid and detailed. Provides a more complete experience with better immersion. But that’s just me

@DADRacingYT Год назад

One point you didn't touch is.. for you.. that 30k that you spent.. created what your youtube channel is today which makes much more than that haha. But very good video to help others out

@iSpike Год назад

🏎️🏁 Brilliantly narrated mate 👍🏻 New Subscriber here. Cheers from Western Australia 🇦🇺🤝🏻

@davecamyt Год назад

Thank you mate 😁

@flourenco30 Месяц назад

Dave do you consider the GT1 Evo the best over the GT1 Pro? I'm in doubt which one should i buy, in my country the difference is about 200/150€. Thank you!

@MrKrampyHands 5 месяцев назад

Yep I had moza srp's and found a broken Moza CRP it was missing all m8 screws and had a broken USB port I fixed them and now I the ot sick load cell pedals that are usually $500 for$200 paired with a 12Nm Moza R12 with all e Moza shifters and handbrake on a Next level racing cockpit getting ready to get a rtx4080 to replace my 3080 that's honestly just fine in 4k and high res VR headsets was using a HP Reverb G2 but just upgraded to a Meta quest 3 it kills the HP running anything on steam VR you gotta run open composite and open xr tool kit to get the HP to run right and the sweet spot is horrible on the HP the quest 3 with those pancake lenses is on a whole nother level and when I am on a monitor I use a Samsung QN90A it was with every penny at the price I paid

@digglerdiggler 2 месяца назад

My first wheel was a Logitech Driving Force GT. This has lasted me 20!! years 😅 Best hardware value for many I ever had

@tehking23 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for this Dave, very valuable information. Do you still stand by the recommendations on the pedals? I was initially looking at the CSL Elite V2, is there really much of a difference to justify the extra £100 or so for the Aseteks?

@Jajaja.. Год назад

I built a simrig out of wooden beams that I still had in the basement. Plus a 43" 4K UHD TV, a G920 and a fighting stick as a button box. But i'm still slow.🤣 I play acc on the series x.

@josephbifulco 11 месяцев назад

I built a 2 by 6 sled with 1 by 8 frame to mount a wheel base…used CSR Elite wheel off Craigslist…CSL Elite pedals new..and a $100 tv from Costco… But Now I’m hooked….God help me.

@MondoRockable Год назад

You want high-end pedals? How about the "Simucube ActivePedal" at $US 5,917.10 (£4,738.41) ... ouch! 😭

@rbdshadow7272 Год назад

What a lad! Thank you for giving us some wise advice that we usually don’t get! Have a great day and know that you’ve helped me and others!

@artursjoblom5142 Год назад

Really good advice in this one m8. Cheers!

@SteelRiverSims Год назад

At what point should we get an 84 litre Mustang? 🐎😎👌🤣

@jackjon7763 9 месяцев назад

I started off with a t150. I’m wanting to upgrade to a fanatec dd. But it’s gonna be about $2000 usd. All in all. Mostly because my cockpit is not gonna survive the direct drive. I have an obutto ozone which was designed prior to direct drive from what I’ve heard.

@stevesiracing1717 Год назад

I budget sim raced from the 90's. Logitech's first force feedback wheel was clamped to my computer desk until the internal cables broke. I must have gone through 4 or 5 FF logitech wheel/pedal sets over 20-30 years. ps1, ps2, ps3, ps4, and a few for my computers. 2 years ago I started realizing stuff like fanatec existed and triple screens were a thing. I wasn't about to do the slow crawl through technology when I was getting back into it so I did the deep dive: DD1, V3 pedals ASR6 frame triple monitors. Since building it I've used it every day except when on vacation or at home sick. Love it. Thanks for all your contributions to the hobby/industry Dave Cam

@TheManxMarauder Год назад

What happened to your rock solid rig RSR-21 ? I love both of mine and they are solid (DD1 user). What’s the resolution on these expensive pedals? I have fanatec V3 and swapped back to right foot braking because my left foot did not have enough finesse, anything more than 10 bit is just (the power of marketing) wasting money. Convince me otherwise ?

@AR-Race 10 месяцев назад

Are the XP1's replacing the Forte/Heusinkvelds on this guide now?

@philt6440 Год назад

The problem with sim racing is TIME. I like to go watch my football team play, play basketball Sundays as well as watch the F1 on the weekend. Sometimes I get in from work 8pm during the week and am just too tired to jump onto my sim rig and then just think about playing it while I watch TV. So yeah, buy a used setup first because you'll probably find TIME a limiting factor. Definitely don't get value for money for my £5k rig as gets used once a week if that which I regret.

@matthewpinfield9445 Год назад

Totally agree there is a cheap way in. Just bought a used RiftS to see if I can handle VR. Upgraded to T-LCM pedals and having a load cell is very nice. Still sub £1k but I already had an old but decent spec pc.

@alpha007org Год назад

I bought TLCM when they came out. At that time, they were decent cheap loadcell pedals, especially coming from G29 pedals. I modded them with 3drap and it transformed the braking experience, so I would definitely recommend looking into that mod. When I upgraded to Sprints late last year, it was a huge difference in immersion, but laptime wise, I could trailbrake with modded TLCM almost as good as with Sprints. So when/if you want to upgrade the pedals, I wouldn't upgrade to Elite 2 or something similar. Save for Sprints, and you will thank yourself later. Regarding Forte Pedals, watch Dan Suzuki video about them. They are "cheating" with their loadcell.

@IsWIM872 Год назад

I think total now 1500-1600€ in 4 years. Still have my old CSL wheel set with second hand heusinkveld sprits. cheap rig wich is ok for now. This was good enough to win my division last season in gt4 :)

@MrKrampyHands 5 месяцев назад

Man I want a csl DD pro just for my PS5 and GT7 one day I'll get the DD+ extreme it'll be awesome

@RyokoVT Год назад

When it comes to VR I have a few recommendations, as an experienced VR user. This isn't a category you want to cheap out on, especially if you are prone to motion sickness. The Oculus Rift S runs at I believe 80Hz, and 90Hz is considered the minimum for a comfortable VR experience. In sim racing especially you want a framerate as high as you can push. The Quest 2 can go up to 120Hz, but you'll potentially be sacrificing clarity, unless your inter-pupilary distance is exactly one of the three available settings on that headset. Then there's the question of FOV. There are some extreme headsets like the Pimax 5K which go up to I think 210 degrees, while something like the Valve Index goes to 130 degrees, if you can get the lenses close enough to your eyes while retaining comfort. The Rift S will get you just under 90 degrees, which you will definitely notice. If you don't mind tunnel vision and you don't mind slightly sickening framerate, AND you don't mind not being able to read anything on the display in the vehicle, then the Rift S is a very good bargain, if you don't mind used as well. My personal recommendation is a Valve Index. Especially for sim racing, it has the best feature set. You can get the headset and light houses individually to save some money if all you plan on doing is sim racing, and you'll get the best tracking as well as a comfortable headset, decent resolution, and very high refresh rate. (The Index can go up to 144Hz) You'll find if you are prone to motion sickness, that it's going to take a while to get used to things, but you will get used to them. Eventually you will develop your VR legs, especially if you're only racing with it, as I find racing to be the most discomforting VR experience, personally. Good luck!

@jasonlanglois7906 Год назад

I would recommend the Advance Sim Racing ASR6 for those of us in Canada over the Simlabs rig. I found the P1X too difficult/expensive here (Ontario). SRG did his usual review of it, and I can confidently say it's worth every inflated loonie.

@roonsky786 Год назад

This guy has spent 608 718,11 South African Rand, that is insane because you can buy an actual race car for that amount of money and still have some change left over. This is ridiculous but tbh, I'd probably do the same if I had the money :)

@TallTaleGael 6 месяцев назад

I just bought the nicest stuff I could afford after playing twice lol. No regrets.

@pauldunningham7640 Год назад

Dave what about the RSR21 you used for a bit. Seems cheaper than a lot of aluminum profile rigs. Is it really any good / comparable. Presumably it's a lot heavier. Would love to hear your thoughts on this.

@TinoushGTR Год назад

I wanted to say why not the Fanatec V3 pedals. They're just €300. So I checked if they are out of stock. They cost €400 now 😱. I payed €300 4 years ago and got the performance kit for free with it. What's going on in the world 😓

@davecamyt Год назад

Yep, I no longer consider the v3s to be a viable purchase with the amount of products out there. the csl elite v2s are just as good imo but a little less pretty 😁

@Ruylopez778 Год назад

This is actually fairly universal advice for most hobbies: 1. start off with a modest investment and see if it's for you. 2. think about how best to invest your money with a long term approach, which means assessing what's right for you and using your own judgement/knowledge. 3. accepting that gear or spending money won't necessarily mean more fun, and skill or improvement is more about experience than gear.

@dan.vitale Год назад

I've been using the "buy once" strategy for a year now - slowly been saving up and buying parts of my rig. Using the golden rule for any kind of spending: "only spend big if you know you will use big". I am space limited, so can't go triple screens, so my item list is as follows: BenQ 34" Widescreen: £600. GT1 Evo + VESA mount: £550. GT Omega seat: £150. Simagic P1000 pedals: £750. Simagic Alpha Mini + GT4 wheel combo: £1150. That totals £3200, for a 10nm setup, triple loadcell pedals with hydraulic brake, and really good monitor. I am lucky that I have a pretty good PC already so I'll be using that to power it. One major reason I went with Simagic gear is their customer service. I have heard a few bad stories over Fanatic in this area, but only good things with Simagic. That needs to be a major consideration. Also, what PC you have to power a rig needs to be another consideration, especially if you’re deciding what displays you need to push pixels too. If you are looking for pure eye candy as well as smoothness, then a new GPU might be needed, and even though the cost of those have come down in the last year, that could easily go from £500-£1000!

@jeffreynelson8083 Год назад

I'm still using a Logitech G27. I guess I should upgrade...

@jojebia1648 9 месяцев назад

dont buy a used sterring wheel. you will get more issues with it then what it's worth. buy a new wheel. second hand rig/monitor stand/even monitors from sim forums etc. pedals for only 600£? bruh

@petepeterson1240 Год назад

and you are going to think your rig is done... ...but then you want a shifter, hand brake, but-kicker, 4th monitor, cub holder, wind simulator, button boxe(s) and a dash board ;)

@mr1k666 3 месяца назад

I did the same thing like you Dave I bought 3 sets of pedals and not happy with either 😂and now I’m not sure what to get asatek invicta or Ultimates + 😂

@ploptv Год назад

I actually got lucky buying a NEW G29 on Amazon years for € 185,- 😊

@usernamefreaks Год назад

Question: I have a Thrustmaster T150 wheel and 2-pedal set. If I want to just upgrade the pedals (let's say the Fanatec CSL Elite LC V2), are the new pedals going to be compatible with the T150 wheel? Do all pedal sets have the same connector that plug into the wheelbase?

@jeffreytackett3922 Год назад

It's odd to me that the first "tip" in a video about how to save money, is to buy a lower-end wheel, and then to start considering upgrades. That is the exact way to NOT save money. Yes, I understand the "may not like it" concept, but out of curiosity, how many people who "may not like it", would be watching this video in the first damn place?

@vladotito Год назад

is simple.... drive g27 as long as you can afford top of the topest.. thats the way how you will save money. I drive g 27 on iracing, come to 4000ir and when i save funds i come to top of the topest, never need to upgrade (read lose money), i am now at almost 7000ir

@ProjectSimRacing Год назад

Great recommendations mate! 🙂🫡

@davevil8750 Год назад

Thanks for the info. However, are there not only a select few setups that are compatible with Gran Turismo 7 and other PS5 racing games?

@lucasbadault Год назад

After 20 days I am thinking of returning my tm300 rs and get a good set of pedal with the moza r9, I scooped up a weehlstand 2.0 for 50 d Euro

@aplomBomb 6 месяцев назад

2024 update for pedals: Grab yourself the p1000 and call it a day XD

@danielsimpson8385 9 месяцев назад

Can anyone recommend a good try screen setup? I was looking at 32" screens. Does anyone know if you should go curved or straight?

@Username_Invalid Год назад

I made a pretty good path in my opinion. I went from g27 for 10 years, upgraded to HE pedals while still using g27 wheel. Added bass shakers “huge upgrade”, got VR, then went DOF seat mover motion, added wind simulation, and finally added Moza r9. So far I am about $5,000 usd in and use Both VR and Super Ultrawide depending on the day. I don’t regret any of my purchases.

@davidq77 Год назад

Hi Dave, I m not totally agree, for me moving to a DD from belt driven whell improved my driving more than my pedals or anything else in my sim, and its not for the torque or the details is all about the precission , Most simracers talk about ho important pedals are, yes and no, if ypu have for example a midrange pedals and belt driven base, i think to move to a DD base will be for me a priority over the pedals, based in my experience, started with a g29 and now im on a DD with a good pedalset and VR so i did som3 upgrades, in my case i wont start with the g29 again, I would start with a fanatec DD, the decond hand market pays well this hardware an its lot better than thebg29 and the experience and driving too. Thanks .

@lickrish3930 Год назад

Well that 100 Euro I wasted doesn't make me feel so bad I think I will stick with my G27 and no rig too they just take up too much space.

@Steve_Greening Год назад

5-6k is far less then what others spend on smoking and drinking, that’s my justification to the other half 😂 also she knows exactly where I am every evening, hiding away in the man cave

@andychicago8295 Год назад

My advice would be, buy a Motion Rig, good VR glasses and a DD wheel. :)

@MrKrampyHands 5 месяцев назад

Good Lord and I thought I spent to much to on sim racing as my roof did I've spent close to 15k and it was worth it

@wdmeister Год назад

I disagree about the pedals. If you get used to your set you can be as fast with some cheap pedals as with high end hydraulic one. Of course, the experience is completely different but lap times are the same. A good wheel is much more important because detailed FFB can improve your consistency.

@lickrish3930 Год назад

Logitech Pro racer and the load cell pedal aluminum rig 2100us done end of story.

@mbf6160 8 месяцев назад

I just don’t trust the quality of stuff in the used market I set my budget at 400 bucks being new to sim racing so the fanatec bundle is nice and I’ll build from there is the plan but I’m not looking to dive in too much more then that

@pault2417 Год назад

Don't forget us desk racers, in which I would highly recommend the Next Level Wheel Stand 2.0, chair wheel tray is key!

@Nymanspojken82 Год назад

all good advice but for me I would start small and upgrade everything down the line. For me its a journey not the destination. If you upgrade 3-4 times you have the experience and the joy of feeling the difference on every upgrade. And if you lose interest on the way you are not down to deep.

@teggsy2165 Год назад

Paid £1212 for Logitech G Pro wheel base and pedals i love them yes the base is big but Good bundle .

@hawkinthepark Год назад

Have you ever compared Fanatec CSL Elite V2 and Asatek La Prima pedals?

@celeroon89 Год назад

I wish my wife would stop nagging about everything beeing to expensive so I could by a proper rig

@tarksable Год назад

"buy cheap -buy twice" applies to a lot of things in life . Sim Racing is no exception. If you buy the cheapest stuff it won't last and you'll end up buying more expensive stuff as the replacement.

@usleadershipareliars Год назад

This is what I did, except with thrustmaster, started with the tmx and bought the t3pa pros, did a wheelstand, upgraded to Next Level F-GT, alls I've replaced in 3-4 yrs is the wheel base to a TX. My next wheel base will be a fanatec, t3pa pro set are amazing built to last.

@ghastous Год назад

£1300 for a pedal set dammmmm these companys sure do know how to overcharge there punters lol

@louisnguyen6038 5 месяцев назад

i have a tgt and a t-lcm and im pretty happy right now, next is a full 8020 rig then dd

@Lauritsen24 Год назад

That seat you are sitting in, is that the Simblab XXL ? Is it any good and comfortable ?

@jean-francoislegault7289 6 месяцев назад

im well on my way to do the same mistakes you did😕but on top of that im the kind of guy that would rather let my equipment take dust in my closet than having to deal with buyers

@stevengeuns Год назад

I have the clubsport 2.5, is the DD 8Nm worth over these?

@ELMASQUELAMONTA Год назад

Before upgrading the pedals I would buy a solid rig, upgrading your pedals with out a solid rig is going backwards

@scottmcdonald9982 Год назад

Oh, and watch out for the import tax on the fanatec gear ...yikes!

@-_-1529 Год назад

Dave, where did you get the seat from and what was it like fixing it to the sim lab p1x?

@fabianrudde1331 Год назад

well seems like i need better pedals im at 2000 irating with my stock thrustmaster pedals haha

@smittyjones8755 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for the info, got a Sim Lab cockpit picked out now. Better value with an integrated triple mount than the other option I was looking at.

@ChrisCheeseBrown Год назад

When selling used you will lose money. Not for the csl dd😂 people are spending mad money on those.

@Fenweekoh01 Год назад

i agree to buy used at the very start. after that though dont be like me and do the leapfrog updates, go for the best thing you can possibly afford so your not just doing constant incremental upgrades and spending 3x more then you would have otherwise.

@wild_lee_coyote Год назад

Your first tip is probably the most important. Make sure sim racing is something you really want to do before you waste thousands in a full rig, that will just sit in your room collecting dust.

@CarlRottman25 Год назад

Best advice I was given: Buy once. Cry once. Lol

@SerialDriver Год назад

Moza CRP is actually almost alone in the mid range 500e for 3 pedals set. Simagic also has a strong offer with they hydraulic set

@CameronGillespiee 8 месяцев назад

now im not saying do this 😂. but i did a similar thing but bought a g29 brand new from amazon and within a year decided i wanted a better wheel, so i told them the usb cable was dead and returned it and they gave me a full refund within warranty

@mcqcjc8409 Год назад

First i got myself used fanatec porsche 911...something wheel. Shortly after fanatec clubsport 2.5 and bmw m3 wheel Then i realised i need rig..quick search i decided to go with extruded alu 40x40 knowing its gonna be my computer desk as well Shortly after i got fanatec csl elite wheel base 5 K hours and 1 belt later the base is recycled i got burned out and decided to put the hobby on hook knowing i will be back cause there is whole rig and pedals left. Now the time has come again. This time i started with cheap Moza shifter and handbrake - i highly recommend them to anyone - brilliant design and execution Just waiting for the moment cause i cant decide.. slightly used one year old simucube 2 ultimate slipped out of my hands - someone else got it. So i was thinking of the simagic alpha u or simucube pro or Asetek invicta which is ,, modernised'' simucube 2 The only problem is i dont really like f1 wheels and asetek has no round ones yet. Btw. Seems like asetek invicta has same slew rate but only lower torque which at 27 is already plenty....i guess the whole idea is to have bigger range so u can drive at constant 10 but still get peaks up to 32/27...correct me if i am wrong.