It's not the expansion card that's being blocked, it's the drive itself. The expansion card serves only as an adapter and it would work if you could harvest a dead internal ssd of an S/X machine. That was patched a while back. The adapters exist for a long time now and can be had for cheap.
Thanks for reviewing this, sucks that it doesn't work reliably. Fingers crossed the accessory people eventually come out with a better decoy and open full M.2 compatibility. The expansion card limitations are the worst part of Series X.
What sucks is the fact that they're still adding 500gb drives into consoles. The Series X could've easily had an 3-4 TB ssd and the Series S could've had a 1tb ssd. I love my Series S but it still feels very anti consumer being forced to fork out an additional $200 if I want more memory.
@@XL3BIGDrizzy He used the *PC* SN530 ssd. You can see version he bought when he zooms in. This version is NOT compatible! It MUST be the *CH* SN530 ssd.
This is a good video however there's absolutely no reliable source for MS blocking this third party adapters via firmware. I think Ben just got one step of the process wrong or a just a faulty SSD. However, the adapter actually works. I've been using an adapter myself with no error messages or any other issue at all for about a month. There are some very detailed tutorials in other languages (I've seen some in Spanish and Portuguese) about how to make the adapter work.
Canon added a chip into their camera batteries and once a bunch of people started buying the cheap knock-offs, Canon used a firmware update disabled all those batteries. so MS could possible do the same. MS is trying to do the Apple memory price gouging. bastards!
Disappointed that the video was a bait and switch I got so excited that someone finally made it possible to use another option instead of having to be strong armed into only using Seagate's option! 😥
He's wrong about third party adapter being firmware blocked by MS. I have one that is working perfectly fine. There are lost of steps in the processing so he could have gotten one of them wrong or maybe got a faulty SSD. But trust me, it still works.
The reason it did not work for him is because he used the *PC* SN530 ssd. You can see version he bought when he zooms in. This version is NOT compatible! It MUST be the *CH* SN530 ssd.
@@ohsnap3457 you just need to buy the correct SSD, the CH SN530. There is a "PC" version that does not work and no surprise that's what he used in this video. I am assuming that the "CH" version is readily available for a good price in China, whereas it's cost prohibitive to export outside of China.
It works you only needs the correct nmve ssd, i'm using one right without problem i use this adaptar with WD CH SN530 1tb SSD, also you need partition in MBR in order the xbox recognized it
What SSD did you use? There is a specific model number that you need to use and there are similar WD cards that are not compatible. Just looked at the video, you got the wrong ssd. It's supposed to be the CH SN530, you got the PC SN530. And just an FYI to those enterprising enough to try this, the correct SSD costs just as much as the official Seagate drive, so this is pointless.
Yep it's the CH what you want.. and unfortunately like you said it's more expensive now, now that the sellers realized it can be used for Xbox and steam console. It was $120-150 last year on eBay, just be sold as storage for surfaces pros. Should've bought it when I had the chance 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@ominousview They do realize if they make them just as much as the xbox one people aren’t going to buy it anymore right? There just gonna buy the flagship one for the same price 🤦♂️
well atleast you know what you are talking about , i was hoping for alternative and its clear that gaming sucks now . even if you buy a decent monitor you still need to research what panel theyre using and what is inside the monitor for it to work , i mean i have bout a few monitors the last few months for my series s , but none of them could beat my old 11 year old tv , the monitors stutter they ghost its a nightmare compared to my tv , the only thing these modern monitor do right is colour but as soon as your character moves say good bye to quality , so honestly idk what we buy anymore
@@DisruptiveUnicorn98k That’s not really a matter of gaming sucking, if anything it’s better it means that you get more options, the technology has gotten more advanced and the market has expanded so you can get a monitor that has what you want specifically, obviously it’s more work but anything thats as important as that should have a little effort put into it, unless you just don’t have to worry about money and can frequently buy a monitor which is nice but not everyone can do that, once they buy one there stuck with it for at least a couple years
@@thepsychicflame I have an 11 year old tv that I bought with or after my Xbox 360 it's 1080p at 60 which isn't much , but then I went and bought a monitor that is supposed to be 165 hz 1440p and HDR and whatever all the bells and whistles,my only issue is , is the laggy images and the rendering that isn't any better than my old tv , and it's really beginning to make me question, because 11 years ago I paid 8000 for my tv my new monitor that is supposed to be cheaper better and all that , only has better colour , I bought 3 monitors this year but idk In less than 3 months so hopefully the 3rd is a charm with the dell that should work with the series s and X lol idk I've never seen Skyrim lag before
I've figured why it did not worked for you, on (1:14) you say the drive has to be the CH530 which is correct but the one you got (1:24) is the SN530 which also clarifies is PC SN530, this drive and the other are not the same, both are PCIe Gen 3 but the Xbox card is supposed to work with PCIe Gen 4, the CH denomination on the drive that works means that the drive has a special IC that makes it work like PCIe Gen 4 but X2 which is how the internal SSD of the Xbox does, it splits two lanes on the internal drive with the two lanes of the extetnal, which the PC SN530 can't do... technically WD does not sell the CH variant as is, but it comes inside some computers and even some xbox series S (512GB variant of the same drive) also, the enclosure I got came with a paper that said you would have to set the partition table as MBR using Disk Genius but I don't think the use of that specific software is necessary... but I can tell you that if you use the CH drive it still works... technically Microsoft has no reason to patch this... the enclosure has no chips nor ICs, it's just a connector change (from NVME to CF-express wich is aconnection for some cammera drives) and theres actually a couple of drives that can pull the PCIe Gen 4x2 trick this ones tend to have the same controller and memory chips as the originals so... what they did is actually very ingenius, they used standard connectors but a weird configuration... it's too bad that chinese people figured out the whole thing... but that's why whe need more competitors that can make this card... which iv'e seen it's probably very close to happen.
@@dmadking3817 That's possibly a limitation of the regular sizes of the official flash memory, some say that the CH530 doesn't work with the 512GB variant, which might be due to the same thing
@@dmadking3817 I haven't confirmed that myself, you can try getting the CH530 on the used market, I don't know how these people get their hands on these drives but it tends to be quite cheap, I also have seen some long enclosure on Aliexpress, also unconfirmed but maybe that means that chinese people have figured out how to make it work on any drive, it is supposed to be a trick on the drive's ic, so nothing prevents to have an intermediary IC that could even pull that trick on PCIe Gen 3 drives as the speeds xbox's and seagate's drives are pretty much as good as those due to using only 2 lanes... Unfortunately due to the chip shortage it may take long to actually have competing official drives from another manufacturer, but although not easy, we have a way to pay less, hopefully it doesn't take long to figure out how to use any drive....
You shouldn't format in the first place, that's what you did wrong. I've been using mine more than a year and no problems or whatsoever. I mean, my SSD was brand new, the requirement to format only applies to used ssds, not brand new from the factory.
Você utilizou o SSD errado, o modelo correto é o CH sn530 1tb, como você mesmo apresenta na imagem. Porém você adquiriu o modelo PC sn530 1tb, não é compatível.
Yet your still spending unnecessary money on something you weren't trying to buy in the first place to get these things working which could be patched by Microsoft. It's better for people to go bitch at Microsoft about this stuff on Twitter to get an actual response from them.
I am curious how long the storage contract with Seagate will last. I have a 1tb card and when it first released a fast gen 4 nvme cost as much; however, a gen 4, 2tb nvme that will work in a PS5 costs only a bit more. I understand the plug and play benefits, but most Xbox owners don't transfer storage, but keep it plugged in.
I like these little cards, but the larger gen 4 nvme cards have really started to come down. Even if an adapter was made for these longer cards it would also require a separate PSU or would require a usb port for the extra power draw.
@@sjneow Yep that's the biggest problem - the lack of utility. M.2s can be used in so much more than a PS5, but CFexpress has very limited usability outside of the current Xboxes and some fancy digital cameras. That does not bode well for competition.
Yes to be honest I noticed even add a new patches to block in even external drives to having different type of controller mods yes I mean he's like a PlayStation 4 on your Xbox specialized patch
Hopefully we see a more reliable “official” off brand expansion. It’s ridiculous because the expansion is almost the same price as the entire series s console. Even with a Samsung SSD I’m still running out of room every time I install anything from gamepass. I have to either transfer a non exclusive title or just delete something. The architecture is just too fast for anything USB, I guess.
I’ve just been using my 4tb seagate hard drive from my old Xbox one, for newer games that have the XS in the corner they have to be played from an ssd drive so if I don’t have space I’ll just transfer it still takes awhile and is definitely annoying, but all my old games that haven’t been updated work just fine. That’s crazy how much the official ssd drives cost maybe one day but for now I’m chillin with my old one still got hella space transfering the games is still annoying but faster then downloading directly
I hate proprietary technologies like the Seagate Expansion Drive. It costs so much money for no other reason besides profits. The 2tb could be mass produced for 35 bucks and sold for 120. Not 200+
I've seen people claiming its working for them, they format it on MBR format on windows, but i think your adapter is a bad one, you should try with a real CFexpress nvme adapter, not saying the one from seagate, just a real CFexpress adapter.
This mans eyesight must be wild. But he makes good videos. Keep it up. Like bro I had never thought of the last bit before until I saw this. Great idea
Is that still working? Will it work for series x? The biggest problem with official extension card is, when the next gen came around I would be able only to throw it away, because i would not be able to connect it to pc or anything else
I honestly wish xbox would allow this considering with Sony you can use almost any nvme. 1tb m.2 is around 89$ right now. But the xbox version is still 200? Also I always had a 4tb hdd on my xbox one x ... 1tb is nothing for space with today's games .. I'd like a 4tb or more.. seems stupid to swap storage drives trying to remember what's on what...
When it comes to buying those kinds of “expensive” things, I prefer buying it off of eBay since well.. eBay can be quite cheap from time to time! (Literally, a xbox one X is like 100 bucks from eBay.)
I hate when companies spend money on R and D to make u buy a product they unnecessarily changed to make u have to buy it from them at an inflated price. This is the Playstation portable system with a special memory card all over again.
Hi, what make of NVME adapter you use? My one a SP PD60 and not recognized by xbox one s or xbox series x as a usb 3.0 drive, however the adapter itself is USB 3.2
I don't understand why Microsoft would limit the Xbox to these stupid expensive Seagate expansion drives. They priced themselves right out of the market out of the gate, no one I know is willing to spend nearly $200 (or more) on expandable storage.
When I first insert it into PC, it doesn't automatically detect it. I followed the SSD enclosure instructions. In Disk Management the only format options are ExFat and NTFS, not GPT.
Im trying to make content with my xbox series s, but all my recordings end up not as super good quality. i heard from someone that if you have the expansion card you will be able to record higher quality videos with your xbox. is this true?
Made a big show of using the correct CH SN530 and then used a PC SN530, sigh 1:26 --you're not sourcing a CH SN530 for less than what you can buy the WD Black expansion card for now, game over.
You may have messed the process at some point, I have the drive and still works no problem, I actually have reformated and still works the same, as a note, the card must be in MBR partition table and not GPT
Same here. I've been using a 1Gb Western Digital CHSN30 with the adapter for about 2 weeks now with absolutely no issues. My Xbox Series S is completely updated. So I wouldn't go and judge it has been disabled by Microsoft so quickly. However, there's a lot of steps to get wrong and that's what might have happened to Ben.
I bought a 1tb Samsung T7 external SSD for around $130 for my Series S. Granted I can't play games Series X/S optimized games off of it but it's great for storage. Also transfers very quickly back and forth to the internal drive (something like 2.5gb per second)
1:25 maybe the issues your having is that your not using the recommended NVMe ssd for full compatibility. It’s supposed to be the CH version. Not the PC
You could use the tools to format the drive on your pc to make it compatible for Xbox. I know it sound the same as formatting on the Xbox but I see several folks running compatible cards currently.
Yeah.. sea gate and Microsoft are greedy as fuck. Who wants to pay 400$ for 4 tb of storage ? That’s more than a series s console. Absolutely ridiculous. You can get the same amount of storage in an external hard drive for about 60 dollars. It’s all about how much money they can possibly take from us.
@@Boba_Fett1980 not even the worst part. If you have a series s, you can't even load a some games on an external hard drive. Yeah it will be slower but atleast let us play on it.
@@fernandovazquez1916 I know. And the newer games do not need fast storage to run. If they do, then why do they run just fine from my external hdd in my gaming pc ? 🤔🤔 no issues at all. It’s all about money
@@fernandovazquez1916 literally the only difference it makes is in loading times. It does not affect performance or fps at all.. and they act like that’s the case
Kindly reminding that those official expansion cards have custom controller chips. Also - you didn't format this SSD, you only initialized it xD Basically M$ have some things in mind for keeping their disks safe af. I will give you all a hint - this expansion card uses standard CompactFlash Express plug, and yet no-one talks about that ;)
