You couldn’t even buy the fabric for 200 much less cover labor for that amount. I have no idea what people think when they find insane listings like that.
In the back of their minds they know that Western economies are benefitting from the relatively cheaper labor costs of Asian and South East Asian countries. In the misty glow of their imaginations, not only could they possibly absorb maybe a little glamour from these gowns, but maybe, just maybe it might all be true. Additionally, most people rarely shop for elegant evening wear on a daily basis, so pricing is a vague factor when you are looking for that once in a lifetime dress. Throw in the fact that ready-to-wear is so limited in sizing and choice for other than average body types. That said, I have seen some pieces from some sites that have been unbelievably well made and ridiculously priced, go figure!
I also think people don’t realize how expensive it can be to make one dress or outfit… I’ve made a few dresses and basically the starting amount is like $200 unless you’re getting thrifted fabrics
People don't realise just how much fabric you need. It's just like knitting/crochet where most think you can do a full sweater with a single skein. Only once you've made something you realise just how much is required to make a full piece. Plus they don't even know material costs and think you'd maybe pay 20 to 50 max. The only way to fix that lack of knowledge would be to make a life skills course in school mandatory or something where you have a project to make an item.
Yes thank you! As a dressmaker I see this all the time! People wanting haute couture or avant-garde dresses at Walmart prices and then get mad when it's not what they received in the mail, what do you expect!? That kind of craftsmanship takes a lot of time and not to mention the cost of fabric, beading or embellishments. If you want to look like a work of art you got to be willing to pay that price.
@@leahowlett5525 Certainly!! After college (please know you don't need a degree to become a dressmaker a career diploma/ certificate can help build your skills just as much if not more!) I did some alteration work for about a year at a local tailor shop in my city and that helped with building clientele but in 2017 I started my own business which in the beginning was easy to do as far as getting a business permit for a LLC and a Sales and Use certificate. Once you have those things there are so many routes you can take as far as becoming a dressmaker, in my case evening/formal wear is my specialty and something I made my money doing since high school. It first started with just doing commissions and that help build my clientele even more and my manager at the tailor shop loved what I was doing so now we're partners and I've been doing it ever since. If there is anything else you would like to know I'll be happy to answer all your questions :)
I totally agree with this. I'm a men's tailor by trade/pattern maker and I see people come to me all the time and they want these ridiculous alterations on these hideously cheap garments they shelled out $200 or $300 for and I usually will recommend a relatively economical remedy for their atrocious garment. Better yet I offered to custom make them custom-made pieces that are tailored to their body with high-quality fabrics for a slightly higher price but I try to keep my pricing fair as possible for labor and material. I've worked for many years in fashion industry and I can tell you it's amazing how people will shell out money for garbage for clothing but they purchase on the internet but they will complain till the cows come home about having something that is bespoke in high quality made just for them.
When a dang seamstress/dressmaker/queen of fabric is telling you to avoid scam dresses when she can make a wage off of poor decisions?? Now that is a pure heart right there🙏🏼💛
That or she doesn't need the bother of explaining that she can't fix the unfixable. Those scam dresses are so shoddily made it'd take a water-into-wine miracle to turn them into something wearable.
I saw a “what I wanted vs what I got” video of a dress that had macrame layer over the skirt and what they go was the macrame design literally printed onto a 1 layer skirt. It’s frustrating how scam websites use the original designer dress as the listing image and then use mediocre materials and/or methods to make their knockoffs.
Yep nail on the head sis! It's so easy now to use cheap fabric and get a design printed on it to give the same "look" but that fabric will never have the same texture or stability as the real stuff and it will show heavily in the construction of the garment.
All of these look like versions of dresses featured on Beyoncé’s Renaissance tour for the first 30 minutes of her show. Stunning. I would never think I could even get that in the mail lmao.
My mother was a seamstress for Pauline Tregere! The care, precision, beauty of every stitch take hours and days and weeks. A couture dress is truly a piece of art and worth every penny. I laughed when I read $200. Maybe starting at $2,000 and even that would be suspect!
anyone who buys a dress that looks like those for less than $500 has never sewed as much as an apron or a potholder in their life ... people... decent fabric would cost more .... lordy
if anyone wants anything close to dresses like these, you need to get in touch with a GOOD african dressmaker. My aunt is a dress maker in nigeria and she used to make some of the most stylish and extravagant dresses like this for my ex-aunt.
I also have no faith that these dresses are even fitted to those ludicrous dress forms. I usually smell dress clips with those impossible seamless curves
@@ah5721 EXACTLY & WHAT DO U THINK ITS GOING TO LOOK LIKE ON YOUR BODY!!! OMG IT SHOULD BE A LAW AGAINST ALL THIS FALSE ADVERSTIING!! OMG IT IS AT LEAST IF U BUY IT IN THE USA!!!!
@@momonie4It is. They're taking photos directly from designers, making cheap knockoffs, and selling those as if they're the same thing. But these websites can just shut down, change their business name, and set back up as something else. And, they're usually shipping from places like China, so there's really nothing consumers from the US can do about it. Just be aware: you get what you pay for.
@@momonie4 they really should be long because it’s getting ridiculous that I go to search for anything anything whether it’s fashion makeup jewelry or OMG if I want a freaking job let’s not even talk about the jobs and be very careful who you talk to on Facebook!!!! It’s getting really really ridiculous and pitiful. We have the scammers selling pictures of things and stealing other peoples designs and selling copycat dollar tree versions, and then we have the resellers who are buying things at affordable normal prices that we could be buying them at as well at stores like Walmart and Macy’s and Bealls outlet and they are buying everything in bulk and selling it for every ridiculous amount so we are getting scammed all across the board and it’s ridiculous and what it is. I get it it is people need money. We all need money, but what we’re doing is hurting the economy. We are not helping our people we are hurting themand allowing people to get hurt OK I’m sorry I’m done ranting. I’m talk texting so that’s why it’s so long.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I am mad OK I’m feeling very emotional right right now😂😂😂😂
Those sites will never go out of business because a lot of people never want to pay a fair 😅price. I use the expression "People wanna fly first class on bus fare"... When I first started out in dressmaking, I would get insane requests on fabric, style and when I gave them the cost of materials only, they'd say stuff like, 'I saw a similar style on Facebook for less than 10% of what you're telling me!" That's why I only do RTW now...😅
Fast fashion culture had made people think that everything is cheap. Most of the public have no idea how much time, money and effort goes into making dresses like these.
My grandma made my dresses and coats and the saying goes”what is sewn with love will never tear”. I’m sure your daughter remembers everything you made with extra love.
I was coming to say this. He must be one of the most ripped off designers for this type of scam website! I truely think he might be our generations house of worth or midcentury dior or even thiery mugler without the recognition.
@ maja1084- Hi might be a gem for the work that he does, however, he’s too stuck up and the attitude “ I’m better than you “ in fashion industry is not gonna work. No connection, terrible attitude, that in USA doesn’t work. No one gives a rats behind what you do, ones they see his not so down to earth persona. No one wants to work with someone with that attitude….for the god sake he acts like he is Elon Musk.
Same. I've made some nice costumes and dresses, but the (sale) cost of the fabrics, thread, zippers/buttons/etc, and other material cost at least $50 for each. Plus, hours of work. If it's a well-made outfit that looks anything like the pictures they advertise, it's going to cost a lot more than what Temu advertises.
I can’t believe people are still trying to buy apparel from these sites thinking a $1000 dress is ever going to look decent when made for $15 and sold for $150. This scam has been happening since the dawn of time but it really needs to stop.
When it comes to beautiful, detailed items, such as these dresses you just posted, and even things like cakes, hairstyles, nails, whatever, I’m always amazed that people really believe they’re going to receive the exact same look for super cheap pricing.
@@ania7930 Yes, you’re right, some people may not know what to look for. It’s sad that it’s always someone out here trying to scam other people with false advertising, so unscrupulous.
First two dresses look like they belong to a couple of fairy queens. Last two dresses look like pieces of art. I would love to see them all on people, freaking beautiful!
I agree! As a dressmaker, I tell you, fabric like this is very expensive. Minimum $100 a yard. It takes a minimum of 4 yards to make a dress like that.
I bake cakes and have the same conversation with customers. If someone is offering you a cake for that price, run!!! You can’t even but materials for that cost, and the time to make such a cake tells me the person offering to bake the cake is not a professional. In the end, the old adage you get what you pay for is true.
I have to agree with her. I have priced fabrics and these dresses are made with expensive fabrics. There is no way you could buy them ready made for $100-300. The quality would not be there.
Yep on average depending on the type of fabric is going to be it's $50 or more per yard and depending on the cut of the dress that's two to four yards right there so that's easily $300 or more being spent just on fabric, hell even more of your adding lining.
Yes! I think most people are so used to fast fashion prices, they have no idea how much things *really* cost when all people involved are paid for their time, labour, and skill.
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There is absolutely no way these gorgeous dresses would only cost $100 or $200. Look at the fabric and beading and other details. Very labor intensive.
Those dresses are absolutely gorgeous! It's hard to understand how people would believe dresses that are this beautiful could cost $100 or $200 , they are missing some brain cells.
I’d change that to the thousands nit the hundreds. You and I know well the cost of the fabric, construction and design that goes into such dresses. People should just think and use their senses. Even the feel of expensive fabric is different from cheap, the way it drapes, even the colours are so very different.
Ugh thank you so much. People severely lack discernment... As a custom bridal designer, the inspiration photos we are sent with AliExpress budgets just make us shake our heads. These dresses are Valdrin Sahiti gowns... He dressed Beyonce several times for crying out loud 😂 what would make anyone think they can get the same thing for even $1,000?
Yep, couture dress making that runs thousands of dollars per garment. LOL If somebody says you can get it for a couple hundred bucks, don't believe the hype.
Fr, especially since these dresses look like they're custom made to fit the customer. It's not going to look right if you're careless and order it in the mail.
YES!! 80's child here. As much as I love both of the movies and the original song, I have to admit that this version might fit even better. Hollywood may not agree. However, as someone who's grown up in Army/Navy city on the Texas Gulf Coast, I would love to introduce this version to any Navy pilots training here or in Kingsville. Wow! Another great cover, Dan.
I know exactly where to get them because I've been in love with his designs for a year and nobody can replicate it because they are so detailed and specific that they are tailor MADE for your body. These dresses you can get for like 900 euros or less for black Friday. If anybody's wondering who it is who makes them it's Valdrin Sahiti
That yellow one is magical. I don't know what you charge, but I've seen the miracles you perform. If they can order the cheap dress and pay you to fix it, I am guessing it is still cheaper than paying for the originals. You need your own fashion line because your creations are usually better than the original vision.
Adding to this, nothing guarantees that an expensive one from the internet is the real deal. Also, be conscious of your body type. Just because the dress looks amazing doesn't mean you will feel amazing in it.
That is the main thing I never can understand. They have just seen some photos from the website, and that beautiful dress, which they wanted & bought…. But even though they claimed to have bought the dress in their own size, I really don’t understand why they actually believe that the dress yet will look just as amazing on them (that had to buy the dress in a size that’s about 10 times bigger than the size of the dress on the photos)! Bc when looking at the photos, that same dress fitted perfectly, but on a very small/slim woman/model that isn’t near as big as the women that order the same dress. And how can any tight dress that contours your body even more, then look just as good on you, when you already know that you only seen an extremely small woman wearing that dress? So please, at least be honest to yourself & admit which size YOU really have & had to order that dress in. Bc we all know how different a dress will look like on a woman in size XXS compared to a woman in size XXXXL 😟 So when the dress finally arrives & they can’t even fit into the dress & don’t even seem to understand why…. Please, admit the truth instead of continuing to pretend. And especially if it was one of these very cheap dresses bought from one of the many cheap China websites, which only sell fake copies of every single item they sell, including a beautiful dress that only costed you so few $ that it wouldn’t even pay for the used fabric in reality. And then these women never seem to understand that those Asian made dresses never are true to size either. So why even order a dress that looks gorgeous on a very slim & fit “model” (& of course they also used photoshop to make the dress on the photos looking even better), bc if they haven’t stolen the photos too, the dress wouldn’t look like the beautiful dress they claim they sell. And we all know it’s IMPOSSIBLE to buy such gorgeous dress for so few $ & yet… WHY?!! 😭😔😟
Oh it is. But international law is complex and civilian won't go to court over 50$ + these shops open and close fast so good luck for tracking them. And something tells me the countries where these shops are from don't care about the law because it is a cashflow.
This is the culture in China, it's normal there. You would buy something like this with the understanding that you wouldn't be getting the exact item in the picture, but an imitation. However, the culture in the US is different.
My grand-aunt used to sew the embellishments and embroidery for Dolce&Gabbana wedding gowns at some point, I also know a family friend who does some of the most complex stitching for Max&Co coats (outside of pockets, decorative hems). They only receive the exact quantity of thread, needles and pearls/sequins that has to go on the garment, not one more or one less. The sole fact that this kind of work has to be done by hand by experts that the brands go searching for all over Italy (I don't know about other places in the world) should be enough to understand that you can't get the same for a tenth of that price. If you want to spend less, just look for simpler pieces, less constructed, less sculptural ones because that is mostly what's increasing the price, most of those things can't be done by machines and require really good fabric.
Trouble is people have absolutely no clue about the cost of top quality, or even mid quality fabric, let alone low quality, or the amount of time it takes to put together a simple garment by hand (and I'm talking with a sewing machine too). I made a replica gown for my own use of the ball gown from the labyrinth. When I first made it I showed it off to the store I got it from, because they too make gowns to sell and they said I could get £2,500 for it, unworn. I was harassed by someone who followed my page because I was asking for half that, when they asked me to make them the gown. Cost me 300 pounds just for the materials. Took three months of 2 hours weekday evenings, 8 hours per day each weekend to make the gown. They refused to pay more than 100 for what they wanted. I did sell my gown in the end, when I was short of cash. I only got 300 for it, but it has been worn. So at least I made the money back 😂
That is an issue also. People don't know the difference in quality between mass produced garments and skilled home made. They expect to pay less than retail. Or they want to pay even less for alterations that will turn a sow's ear into a silk purse for a figure that is well outside the range of average proportions. My mother made costumes for community theatre. When that no longer pleased her, she switched to doll clothes for the very popular "American Girl" dolls. These she sold at the local Christmas Fair and they would go like hot cakes. The mothers quickly learned what she made would come out of a washing machine looking good as new. You might want to think about doll clothes if you need to supplement your funds.
After complaining that a fast fashion site stole her design, a Latina designer got a lot of hate. Ppl thought that charging 500 for a "simple dress, clearly made from a pattern." It was a hand-made silk organza of her own design. If something, it was a real deal. This is the problem with these sites. Ppl think they deserve those dresses for 175. They're not worth that. Even with slave labor.
I swear fast fashion like box store dresses makes people forget how much half-way-decent fabric costs, never mind labor and any other decorative touches. The moment I see the word “silk” listed under the fabrics I know it’s going to be an expensive piece. The only silk anything you’d find for around 200 would probably be a very simple shirt or jacket made of the cheapest silk….and that’s a huge “maybe”.
I make custom stage costumes (mainly burlesque) and evening wear. Most of my business is within the community and they understand the cost of a custom piece. I do sell on some sites, though, where I clearly list the examples show are only the deposit + 10% estimated cost in both the title and description. None the less a few times a year (usually close to Halloween) I get people thinking they can get the whole thing for basically the cost of the supplies and then throw a fit at me about my prices. I'm never rude to them when explaining my pricing, but they will say things like "how do you expect to make money if no one can afford to buy it"... well Martha I've been doing this 20+ years and while I'm not rich I do just fine without your business and getting fairly paid.
@@corvidaegudmund1186YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE NAIL. Places like Shein, fashion nova kinda ruined it for everyone involved: seamstresses/designers AND customers alike. The former can't get work anymore and get their work ripped off and the latter gets crappy quality while single-handedly financing child and slave labor.
Can we say $100-200 A YARD..... and I can use a lot of fabric, especially bridal gowns (20-25 yards for a ballroom gown is not unheard of). I once used over 400 peacock feathers for adornment that had to be handstitched on. The feathers alone were over $500. Yes, I am a professional, and yes, they are going to pay out the nose for my time. It is the almost 4 decades of experience I bring to the table that they are paying for. I have industrial machines and each of those were out-of-pocket, but my clients know my work is high quality.
I live in Bowling Green Ky Home of the world head quarters for fruit of the loom. There r a lot of seamstresses here because of the factory. I have a friend that was a hand picked seamstress for the Fruit of the loom designers. She is retired now n works at home she has more then 7
Seeing machine set up with different stitches so when she is working she all she has to do is leave one n go to the machine that is set up to do that particular stitch she needs. But here
800??? Girl... you outta your damn mind. There's no way to put feathers like that on a dress and not have someone literally living in a cage to make it happen. Don't give money to modern slavery
Yes! I don’t know how in the world anyone could believe a dress like that could be purchased so cheaply. If you do, I have a lovely 1988 Yugo for sale.
I've never in my whole life spent $100 on a dress. Even my wedding dress was made and embroidered by me from old curtains. People are so rich these days yet have zero sense.
Really? Old curtains? You are talented! I'd love to see that. Reminds me of Gone With The Wind where Scarlett wears the dress repurposed from curtains!
Good for you! Similar, I thrift, alter, and sew. But the point here is that nowadays $100 is the starting point for something decent new. Even Goodwill wedding gowns are $75 now. Those pictures are of couture $500-1,000+ dresses, so if you are paying $100-150 that is absolutely not what you are going to get.
I would expect a quality one to be a solid $300 or more. You can find something similar discounted on Saks on 5th or Nordstrom Rack for like $150-$200, but regular price for a quality dress would definitely be $300+
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Those intricate details for less than 100 sounds like a Wish nightmare. No way you're getting a one of a kind formal gown for that price. The only exception I can think of is vintage lace.