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iFi NEO iDSD Review, Closer To Analog Sound 

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@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 2 года назад
About to review this dac and you and Thomas only videos review i have watched and bro your on the money !!!!! Wow you just shocked me !! Rich n warm analog musical - bass deep but not the fastest - ( tightness) Not as transparent and clean like my burson but the burson cost a little more great Job !! 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟
@uncletoma
@uncletoma 3 года назад
Compared, at home with my setup,. with D90 (AKM version) and SMSL M400 well, really more refined sound. Seems analog, a litte "vacuum tube". Really amazing DAC in its price range
@avroman100
@avroman100 3 года назад
bought that after you review, totally satisfied
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing.
@xstensl8823
@xstensl8823 3 года назад
about the same price as the Denafrips Aries2. wonder how they would compare?
@justanobody4983
@justanobody4983 3 года назад
From the demo its sounds very near to ifi idac2. The difference i hear is the top end is more pronounced in the neo but it could also be the speakers doing it. As always, the midrange of the neo and idac2 are the star of the show. Im in the market for standalone dacs as i need opitcal, or coax for my cd transport. This is on my short list together with denafrips ares ii and schiit bifrost.
@oscillatingdailyaudio
@oscillatingdailyaudio 3 года назад
I have it and enjoy it. I'd love to know how much better the pro idsd is.
@pew32
@pew32 3 года назад
Great review, I am looking to buy a dac so this is on my list of possible purchases, looks good value for money To
@larsv6144
@larsv6144 3 года назад
Is the preamp any good? Plan to connect it to a class D power amplifier (NAD C298 purifi). I do have the Quad Z2 speakers. Other option is to connect it to my other amp Musical Fidelity M5si.
@ZaxL89
@ZaxL89 3 года назад
Is it possible to use RCA and XLR output at the same time? would be nice to have a subwoofer and active speakers.
@vanoverbay774
@vanoverbay774 3 года назад
I’ve got an ifi Zen Signature DAC and use both the balanced (4.4) and unbalanced (RCA) out at the same time and use one for the sub. Works great! Hopefully that would work for this device too.
@blueskymusica
@blueskymusica 3 года назад
If you can get your hands on one, try a Heed Abacus. Really easily enjoyable and natural sound
@saedamad
@saedamad 3 года назад
Nice.. Good morning from Singapore
@AIOS.83
@AIOS.83 Год назад
Hello. How it sounds compared to Bluesound Node (N130)?
@markd4292
@markd4292 3 года назад
Hi. Did you get rid of your JBL Studio 590s? I am in between a decision of getting either the JBL Studio 590s In Cherry Finish! Rare find! or Forte III and a great price or the Focal Chora 826 or the Monitor Audio Silver 500. I like them all, albeit I have not heard the JBLs, but I am willing to take a chance because I like the JBL "sound". You got rid of your Parasound gear too? I do really like your new Denon. I see their anniversary model in that looks great. I also see a Marantz ruby for half off, and the Musical Fidelity M6 for a good deal too. I also came across a Parasound 2250 v2. Both the Focal and Monitor Audio speakers go down to a low 3 Ohms, my current Mitsubishi DAA15DC amp is rated for 4 to 16 Ohms and I am afraid it won't handle these speakers, but will probably be just fine with the JBL and Klipsch. What do you think? Thank you for the reviews. BTW where did you get the sound dampening behind your gear. It looks great.
@donvito8652
@donvito8652 3 года назад
Which do you like the sonics more on ... the iFi or Tone 2 Pro? Is iFi worth the xtra $cash ? You're saying it's not that good for pre-recorded CD's? Is it better performer than Schiit Bifrost2? It does seem feature-ladden!
@sbalu4
@sbalu4 3 года назад
Expecting your review for LS50 wireless 2 soon.
@lzytek
@lzytek 3 года назад
Great review. Did you pair it with your Verum 1 headphone? How is it?
@klng6397
@klng6397 2 года назад
You mentioned to ripped CD . Can i just connect my CD player to this instead ?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 2 года назад
Yes you can with coaxial cable.
@MisterRedBird
@MisterRedBird 3 года назад
I know this is unrelated to this video but I just watched your review of the Elac Debut B6.2 and wanted to know how you thought those compared to the Klipsch R-51M?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
DB6.2 is better performer.
@nico3641
@nico3641 3 года назад
Hello. Where do you get most of your DSD files?
@ebenezerjebaraj
@ebenezerjebaraj 2 года назад
Is Ifi Neo idsd better than SMSL D300? I understand that both have warm, analogue like sound signature
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 2 года назад
D300 is more accurate in sounding.
@ebenezerjebaraj
@ebenezerjebaraj 2 года назад
Thank you for your response. Based on your review I have placed an order for D300. Should be getting it in another couple of weeks. Will share the feedback. Thanks
@albertccja13
@albertccja13 3 года назад
hi, this unit compared to smsl su-9, in your opinion there is a huge difference in sound quality?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
More forward sound than SU-9.
@junjiexu1124
@junjiexu1124 3 года назад
Mytek liberty dac II and ifi neo idsd . Which is better ?
@massimopuca4422
@massimopuca4422 3 года назад
I bought this model but I have an issue when I play music on a MacBook Pro. The display is stuck on 44kHz no matter what is the sample rate of the song; this however does not happen when I connect the dac to my Android phone or iPad.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
It’s not normal, you should contact iFi.
@jdekong3945
@jdekong3945 3 года назад
nice review
@atoz6552
@atoz6552 3 года назад
Did you try to read the Tidal MQA files Through the USB Player Pro on an Android phone ? The sound is more balanced if I'm not wrong
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
No I do not have android phone, thanks
@klc2578
@klc2578 2 года назад
Yes is a must if you play MQA from android phone, only UAPP & HIBY can fully unlock MQA USB bit perfect output. but try add on the iFi idefender with external 5V to the for your phone output. it helps a lot on power & sound improment.
@johnparkerzabala
@johnparkerzabala 3 года назад
Very much obliged Sir. I’m just a newbie I only use IPhone and iPad. Sir what cables do I need to connect it with? Also Sir it has Bluetooth so can it be connected Bluetooth iPhone or iPad then just plug earphones or headphones? Very much obliged stay safe God bless and Happy New Year.
@christopher1800
@christopher1800 3 года назад
For Iphone/Ipad you would need the ‘lightning to usb camera adapter’, along with the included usb cable. And yes, you could simply stream from your Ipad / Iphone to the Neo via Bluetooth. Be warned though: Apple devices only use the AAC bluetooth codec, which isn’t the best. In fact, bluetooth always uses compression. So if you’d like top quality sound you’d be better off connecting your iphone/ipad with those cables.
@vincent77295
@vincent77295 3 года назад
have a pair of wharfedale evo4.4 but thinking to sell and get wharfedale linton heritage, the bass performance is better with linton much deeper with 8 inch woofer, what would you suggest
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
Any Evo is better than Linton Heritage for me.
@justanobody4983
@justanobody4983 3 года назад
Have the 4.2 and i had a chance to listen to the heritage. The soundstage and imaging are much better in the 4.2. Yes the bass is better in the heritage but overall, ill take the 4.2 over the heritage.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
@@justanobody4983 4.2 is better speaker for sure, thanks
@JogieGlenMait16
@JogieGlenMait16 3 года назад
Basically, zen dac, can and blue mixed into one. Or at least that's what I think. 😉
@kurt120032002
@kurt120032002 3 года назад
I hope not. Zen dac is bright and digital sound. SMSL M7 what was about the same price has a more pleasing sound even with less details.
@trevoC132
@trevoC132 3 года назад
Agonizing over buying this DAC to pair with a Topper A90 Head Amp/Pre-Amp or the Topper D90. Clearly the topper D90 will look better with the A90 and seems to have the better specs/components, but this thing seems to really make people smile. I have an ifi DAC/CAN stack with balanced cables and planar cans on my desktop computer setup and have been happy with ifi so far. Ughhhh, the Toppers look so nice stacked but I fear this may sound better with the A90 than the D90 will in DAC mode only.
@trevoC132
@trevoC132 3 года назад
The A90 when not driving cans will drive a 2x200 power amp to KEF Ref floors.
@laogulaozhao
@laogulaozhao 3 года назад
Do you think it is like analogue sound? Is it good enough to drive Beyerdynamic T1? How do you compare this one with T+A Dac 8?
@klc2578
@klc2578 2 года назад
yes, only with 4.4mm headphone jack output.
@igorpanasonic5862
@igorpanasonic5862 3 года назад
Which USB cable you use? Thanks
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
Audio Technica USB cable.
@rega1039
@rega1039 2 года назад
Hi sir i have a analog integrated amps can i connect this via rca to my amps and connect this to my smart tv and blue ray player as well? Thank you and God Bless
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 2 года назад
Yes you can, also come with instruction manual, thanks
@rega1039
@rega1039 2 года назад
@@Tharbamar, thanks a lot sir
@TheSpiritOfTheWest
@TheSpiritOfTheWest 3 года назад
You look thinner and healthier!
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
Thank you.
@ВасилийТеркин-ь9п
@ВасилийТеркин-ь9п 3 года назад
Превосходный обзор! Так держать! Как он в сравнении iFi Neo vs SMSL SU-9?
@jingsonlua1307
@jingsonlua1307 3 года назад
@tharbamar I'm also interested in knowing the comparison between iFi Neo vs the SMSL SU-9. can you please provide your opinion on the comparison?
@hrvojekant9415
@hrvojekant9415 3 года назад
Excuse me Thomas ...but the speakers on video set up are not Warfedale EVO 4.2 as You put down in the descripions... With the all respects ... Best regards
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
It's fixed, thanks
@quitegenius
@quitegenius 3 года назад
You should try Schiit Bifrost DAC which is basically the same price but it's a standalone DAC. For me it was slightly better than SMSL SU-9. But I'm also interested in this DAC.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
These are all samples, problem with Schiit is no DSD support, which is my main digital music playback, thanks
@rajendrabiswas
@rajendrabiswas 2 года назад
@@Tharbamar how does bifrost compare to neo ? Are both similar and great sounding ?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 2 года назад
@@rajendrabiswas Hi, I have not tried Bifrost in my system to give you right answer, thanks
@rajendrabiswas
@rajendrabiswas 2 года назад
@@Tharbamar would you say the neo is better than black label ?
@vaterundsohnletsplay9914
@vaterundsohnletsplay9914 3 года назад
What speakers sound better the Wharfedale Evo4.2 or the aperion audio verus iii grand bookshelf thanks
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
It depends on your taste Evo 4.2 warm/rich/detail, Verus III detail sound/nicer cabinets/a little forward highs, thanks
@vaterundsohnletsplay9914
@vaterundsohnletsplay9914 3 года назад
Thanks
@sc0or
@sc0or 3 года назад
Hi. Would you like to ask them to test also ifi phono 2 or 3 riaa (+4) mm/mc “portable” pre amp if this is possible pls?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
May be I will ask them if they’re interested, thanks
@sc0or
@sc0or 3 года назад
@@Tharbamar Thank you very much. Because if a company can make a good phono, that means it loves a sound, and their products have something on a background imho
@dajikbatarang1
@dajikbatarang1 3 года назад
What happened to your Elysian speakers?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
They went back to Wharfedale.
@dajikbatarang1
@dajikbatarang1 3 года назад
@@Tharbamar are you still looking for high end speakers?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
Yes, I will have a few coming in for review. I might find one for my next speaker.
@mcjunior79
@mcjunior79 3 года назад
I have here a Luxman L-505, SMSL SU-9 and MA Gold 100 speakers... When I use Luxman with the su-9 I feel the mids region very pronounced! I have tried an iFi micro idsd and liked it more, I think it was a best match... but the iFi Micro lacks some features and I sold it... Did you compare this iFI NEO DSD whit SU-9? Any thoughts? Thank you very much! Congratulations for this excellent review!
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
I did not compare it with SU-9, in my system NEO iDSD was a little more forward sounding than any other DACs I have, I will have comparison review of Loxjie D50 and iDSD in a week or two, thanks
@mcjunior79
@mcjunior79 3 года назад
@@Tharbamar thank you my friend! I'm following your chanel. I'll see the next videos.
@pauls2099
@pauls2099 2 года назад
How does this compare to the musician pegasus?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 2 года назад
Please see comparison video.
@eddiebaby22
@eddiebaby22 2 года назад
nope, it sounds digital as hell. Great demos BTW 👍
@ianorigbo7617
@ianorigbo7617 3 года назад
Good review.. But found the demo track very thin sounding and sibilant.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
Speakers were a little too small for the room.
@1dafirst
@1dafirst 3 года назад
Where to get those panels please
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
Those are all custom, thanks
@ColocasiaCorm
@ColocasiaCorm 3 года назад
This or d90se+pre90?
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
Topping is more neutral, iFi is more exciting to listen, you have to decide based on your preference.
@ColocasiaCorm
@ColocasiaCorm 3 года назад
@@Tharbamar best dac for native dsd?
@ColocasiaCorm
@ColocasiaCorm 3 года назад
Which dac for dsd tharbamar? Of. Everything u tried
@joaquimpato522
@joaquimpato522 3 года назад
Please can you explain the connections you made between the equipment you use. That´s a flaw with all these review videos. Don´t forget not all of us are a Einstein like you.
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
Hi it’s all listed in the video description, thanks
@joaquimpato522
@joaquimpato522 3 года назад
​@@Tharbamar Sorry to insist once again in the difilculty of understanding the obvious connections that are in the mind of the video presenter. How many guys that watch your videos have a Master Degree in HI-FI Audio ? Maby some of us are only hedonist audio lovers, with no or low tecnical expertise in audio hi-fi. Can i sugest, the use of audio connections graphics with nomenclatures in pictures and video, to follow the audio system you use. Maby you will have more work in the edition of your videos, but you will make a differentiation from others (all the same) reviews.
@christopher1800
@christopher1800 3 года назад
@@joaquimpato522 I have another suggestion for you: if you’re going to make a suggestion about anything, do so in a polite and friendly way. People might actually listen then. But remarks like “we’re not all Einstein like you” won’t do you any good.
@dejandavkov
@dejandavkov 3 года назад
Where are 603 s2 anniversary
@Tharbamar
@Tharbamar 3 года назад
I’m working on Comparison review, thanks
@rajasankar1245
@rajasankar1245 3 года назад
I would prefer smsl su 9
@toycelica185
@toycelica185 3 года назад
👍🏻
@OptLab
@OptLab Год назад
I can't relax when I look at this device. It looks like a chinese dvd players from 2000
@lextr3110
@lextr3110 3 года назад
is it a dual dac implementation? hope so at this price.. anybody found crosstalk? what is the burrbrown dac chip used? looking at the board ... and wow it's clearly overpriced
@sc0or
@sc0or 3 года назад
Audio equipment manufacturers measure how it sounds comparing to competitors. If someone who was the first decided to ask 650, and these guys thought their DAC sounded better, they could ask 700 and no matter what was inside ;) Welcome to an irrational market ) And to be better than 90% of them it is enough to add low noise voltage regulators, sample rate refiner, good crystal oscillator, and something better than 5534
@lextr3110
@lextr3110 3 года назад
@Car Guy daddyo haha like if burrbrown design have not been here since ever.. pcm1974 can be implement as only one resistor in the analog output stage.. better be 2 chip thats for sure.. if not YES its overpriced and it should be max 400 even with dual dac.. depending on headphone amp quality.. 5532 is actually quite good in mono config tho..
@christopher1800
@christopher1800 3 года назад
@@lextr3110 It’s strange how all of sudden, so many people come up with this “overpriced” nonsense for a pre-amp / headphone amp / dac which is only $600 - $700. It is, in fact, still a very cheap device for decent build/component quality. You can buy power amps for $50.000 and nobody complains about the price then.
@lextr3110
@lextr3110 3 года назад
@@christopher1800 you can buy a power amp for 5 billions too these dac chips are what 5$ each and they cant put 2 haha.. i think its more than 700$ and this is in US dollars.. in canada it mean 1200$ + 15% taxes... it is costly... you can buy very good dual dac DAP for this price..
@justanobody4983
@justanobody4983 3 года назад
@@lextr3110 dac is not all about the dac chip. Its not just resistors and capacitors. You need to design power stage, analog stage, voicing, etc. after all that you need to cover overhead cost, warranty claims, etc. after all that you need profit. Go ahead and start a company that sells this level of decoding, sound quality, and design then sell it for $100. You will make a killing. Lets see you do it.
@AdiMaco
@AdiMaco 3 года назад
Closer to analogue sound!!!??? Man, ALL SOUNDS ARE ANALOGUE.
@christopher1800
@christopher1800 3 года назад
Obviously, he means the sound you’d get with a full analogue path.
@manardh7387
@manardh7387 3 года назад
Some kind of roller coaster effect from something. Can't tell anything much about the sound here.
@dilbyjones
@dilbyjones 3 года назад
!
@zyghom
@zyghom 3 года назад
not worth 700 ;-( much less convenient than iFi ZEN stack (BLUE, DAC, CAN) less power less extras (i.e. Xbass etc)
@zyghom
@zyghom 3 года назад
@Car Guy daddyo :-) I of course meant: "to me" ;-)
@christopher1800
@christopher1800 3 года назад
This all depends on the (quality of) the components used. Personally, I don’t particularly like those “extra’s”... the Neo is for purists in its featureless setup and sound. Knowing IfI, there’s probably something in there that justifies the price... since they make decent quality stuff for a decent price.
@zyghom
@zyghom 3 года назад
@@christopher1800 "... there’s probably something in there that justifies the price..." - wow!
@christopher1800
@christopher1800 3 года назад
@@zyghom You missed “knowing ifi”. And yes, a lot of this has to do with trust in a company. Name one other device that is “overpriced” in IFI’s lineup.
@justanobody4983
@justanobody4983 3 года назад
The dac alone in this neo is way better than the zen. But i agree, it needs more headphone power.
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