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IH 470 Disc - Blades and Bearings Part 2 

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Flanges are giving us a little trouble but that's not stopping us.

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@mattsmith8890
@mattsmith8890 7 лет назад
i got a 470.this video helped me alot.i got a 986 and 766 tractors. we have a lot of same farming techniques.ur videos help me alot.THANKS.
@boehmfarm4276
@boehmfarm4276 7 лет назад
I'm glad we could help.
@air7etner
@air7etner 3 года назад
I just weld the notches back up and grind flat on the gang axle.... good as new. No need for spacers. Also, I know this video is 2 yrs old but I would've snatched up all the $7 blades. They never go bad in storage.
@danfike3016
@danfike3016 7 лет назад
Good job. You got a deal on those blades breathing new life back into the old girl.
@boehmfarm4276
@boehmfarm4276 7 лет назад
Thanks, we shall see what happens when we go to the field.
@michiganfarming1955
@michiganfarming1955 7 лет назад
good deal on those blades. disk is coming along real good, stay safe man.
@boehmfarm4276
@boehmfarm4276 7 лет назад
No one has suffered an injury on this project yet, but I'll say the corners on those notched blades are sharp!
@michiganfarming1955
@michiganfarming1955 3 года назад
@Abdullah Aiden would you idiots fuck off
@jakeziegler599
@jakeziegler599 7 лет назад
Man then bearings will fight ya! Good to see u use the best grinders around. Looks good
@boehmfarm4276
@boehmfarm4276 7 лет назад
Thanks! Dirt is not the best rust preventer. I wish i had a press instead, but for now, I'll make sparks fly. I don't want anything but a Milwaukee.
@lukestrawwalker
@lukestrawwalker 2 года назад
@@boehmfarm4276 I got a Harbor Freight press pretty cheap... 20 ton sure makes things easier... works well. OL J R :)
@PAYNEKILLER..
@PAYNEKILLER.. 3 года назад
My father would have had a conniption fit with sparks in a hay barn. Man I miss him.
@fredf3391
@fredf3391 7 лет назад
Look like you working on chain gang with that sledgehammer . Part 3 of disk blade replacement you and Brad be dressed up in white and black coveralls with stripes on them after stealing them blades 👏👍👌 I will be waiting
@boehmfarm4276
@boehmfarm4276 7 лет назад
Hahaha, we shall see. But definitely a steal on the blades. Hopefully less sledgehammer too.
@smokeythebear840
@smokeythebear840 3 года назад
If you are scrapping bearing anyway cut away all but the inner race. Heat inner race with a torch to red red hot. Smack red area with a chisel a few times. Inner race will slide right off. It' not necessary to heat the whole inner race. Just one spot.
@lukestrawwalker
@lukestrawwalker 2 года назад
I've welded up axles before and ground them down smooth... putting a 'spacer" in there, unless it's a couple centers cut or broken out of OLD disk blades, is asking for trouble-- using an old race like that puts all the pressure on one spot on the blade, with no backup around it, which will probably cause it to crack or break over time, and make it hard to keep the disk gang tight because the curvature of the race doesn't match that of the disk blade and spacers/end gang "washer" saucer either... Welding them ain't ideal, BUT ya do what ya gotta do sometimes... I had a round disk arbor bolt "axle" snap off about 4 inches from the end right at the bearing one time, and rather than replace a 7 foot long axle for several hundred bucks and have to wait on it who knows how long, I simply used the torch to cut both ends down to a point, then put a piece of small angle iron clamped to the long part and set the short end into it to hold everything aligned, and then tack welded it together, removed the angle iron, and turned the disk gang slowly as I welded up the "V" notch between the two ends... chipped, hammered, welded again, repeated several times, and welded it up larger than it was originally, then ground it back down to size with a grinding disk as I turned it... It came out true and rolled straight and I ground it down *just* enough for the disk spacers to fit over the weld, and put it back together... it's held for probably 20 years or so... Later! OL J R :)
@bryanfoti795
@bryanfoti795 6 лет назад
As a farmer that made a real living working as a paramedic, please invest in some safety glasses.
@roberthall6195
@roberthall6195 5 лет назад
Bryan Foti or even a face shield.
@SoybeanFarmer3300
@SoybeanFarmer3300 7 лет назад
you are getting it done.
@boehmfarm4276
@boehmfarm4276 7 лет назад
Yep, we're getting there. It's turning into more videos than I expected too.
@SoybeanFarmer3300
@SoybeanFarmer3300 7 лет назад
Boehm Farm - mine was a 6 part video series. cousin and I worked on it 2 days. those rusted bolts and heavy parts can really wear an old man out..... you'll get there and be glad you did...
@markhoogendyk879
@markhoogendyk879 7 лет назад
that's a hell of a deal. hope you bought them all
@boehmfarm4276
@boehmfarm4276 7 лет назад
Not yet, good chance of going back this week during the storewide 12% sale.
@jrbpa5775
@jrbpa5775 7 лет назад
When I was about 8 yrs old we had a welding shop in a nearby town close and sell their equipment. Dad bought a hydraulic press run with a foot pedal for 50 dollars. I can't tell you the hundreds of times that press was used. Sure would work on those bearings that are froze on.
@boehmfarm4276
@boehmfarm4276 7 лет назад
I have one on my wish list, that and a drill press.
@lukestrawwalker
@lukestrawwalker 2 года назад
@@boehmfarm4276 We got both at Harbor Freight for not much money... the 20 ton press works well and the drill press works good too, no complaints... we've had both probably 10 years... while you're at it, pick up one of their U-joint arbor presses, it's like a huge C-clamp... works like a CHAMP for pressing out/pressing in U-joints when you don't want haul the whole thing into the shop and rig it up in the shop press... Later! OL J R :)
@Masseydriver
@Masseydriver 7 лет назад
I was wondering if you were pointing the bearing grease zeros toward the rear of the disc, then I saw you guys turn the bearing on the last gang you were working on. To buy those discs through Shoup would be around $30 a piece.
@boehmfarm4276
@boehmfarm4276 7 лет назад
Yep, all zerks to the back. Ew... probably would be better off buying another disk.
@jasonmushersee
@jasonmushersee 7 лет назад
hate doing this alone and i stand the gang up like you do but when the shaft is 96" long things get top heavy real fast. may have to adjust the tongue hitch now to balance the depth of cut and remember to lift the disc on turns.
@boehmfarm4276
@boehmfarm4276 7 лет назад
Yep, It's way out of adjustment now so we could hook up to the tractor easily.
@lukestrawwalker
@lukestrawwalker 2 года назад
Yeah I see why you bought them at that price... for $7 and change a blade, compared to $25 a blade, you could replace a set 3X and STILL be money ahead versus the high dollar blades... SO if you get 33% of the service life out of these compared to the expensive ones, you're still money ahead (NOT including your labor/work/parts to replace them like bolts, nuts, time, etc). Even if you break a few and have to make repairs, well, you're still money ahead. If you were doing a LOT of acres, YEAH the IH "Earth Metal" blades are well worth it because they'll probably outlast "cheap" blades by at least 2:1, so says my BIL and he's run them for decades on his northern Indiana farm, and he's never had one break IIRC, which saves a lot of downtime and repairs particularly in rocky ground, BUT it IS a LOT of money *up front* and a much harder pill to swallow LOL:) We had notched blades on the front of our old 14 foot Ford disk and smooth on back, wasn't really a fan... the notched blades may cut *slightly* better in tough conditions, but they also ride up out of the ground faster in hard ground, and they're more prone to cracking and breaking in my experience (we farm on hard "gumbo" clay soils at Needville and sandy loam or loamy sand at Shiner). We started swapping in smooth blades as the notched ones cracked or broke, and they run MUCH smoother, cut better, and still slice up residue quite well, even tough "woody" cotton stalks! They slice through corn/grain sorghum stalks like butter, rather than "chopping" through it like notched disks. When I replaced all the blades, I went with all smooth blades. Works great. Later! OL J R :)
@ethanlee9441
@ethanlee9441 4 года назад
I see a plasma cutter in your future lol have fun
@pablocopple673
@pablocopple673 Год назад
always lots of cutting and grinding and grease when working on the Disc.....
@bl688
@bl688 Год назад
You want a shock price some of the packer wheels for a cultimulcher.... I need a dozen of the old style packer wheels with 4" centers 80-90 dollars eachv
@boehmfarm4276
@boehmfarm4276 Год назад
Ew
@ghenry85
@ghenry85 7 лет назад
Do you know who made the blades? We have cih blades (made by Ingersol) on a White disc and haven't broke one yet. Less 8 bucks per blade, that's pretty good!
@boehmfarm4276
@boehmfarm4276 7 лет назад
I think I saw something stamped into a blade. I will have to inspect it closer.
@lukestrawwalker
@lukestrawwalker 2 года назад
The Case/IH "Earth Metal" blades will have an emblem on them saying "Earth Metal", those things are the Cadillacs of disk blades... they will hold up and won't break or crack even in severe conditions like rocks... BUT they ARE expensive!!! BUT if you have tough conditions and want blades to last twice as long as "cheap" blades so you're not changing out broken or cracked or bent blades all the time or wearing them out so fast, then the Earth Metal blades are the way to go. For the price he paid for those, even if he only gets 1/3 the life out of them, he's still money ahead with the cheap ones, but that ain't figuring labor and supplies to swap a set of blades in either... Like a lot of things, "you get what you pay for" applies to disk blades from my experience... Later! OL J R :)
@ghenry85
@ghenry85 2 года назад
@@lukestrawwalker very true.
@rogerwilson9361
@rogerwilson9361 7 лет назад
Boehma vice would have been nice nothing like using your feet as one good deal on the disks blades and they can be difficult gangs sometimes.
@boehmfarm4276
@boehmfarm4276 7 лет назад
The vice is in the garage, and I didn't feel like walking up there. This way, the mess of shavings is outside. And I have cut my finger on the grinding wheel in the past, and that was with better holding devices.
@johnathonsheehan3773
@johnathonsheehan3773 7 лет назад
Have you guys ever looked into trying no-till?
@boehmfarm4276
@boehmfarm4276 7 лет назад
Not on our soil. The clay turns into a brick when it dries. I've seen plenty of fields with little pink dots in the spring. And I don't feel like spraying more.
@prestonkerr4421
@prestonkerr4421 7 лет назад
So how many acres do you guys own and how many do you rent?
@boehmfarm4276
@boehmfarm4276 7 лет назад
I rent 99. Dad owns 77, he rents another 20. And we'll bale 60+ for hay.
@joetiller1031
@joetiller1031 7 лет назад
Better carry pipe wrench to the field with you they will loseing up if you get any dirt in between the spacers its all over got to take them apart again.
@boehmfarm4276
@boehmfarm4276 7 лет назад
I'm well experienced with tightening. The replacement axles seem to stretch.
@banditfarmer1900
@banditfarmer1900 7 лет назад
Your going to have to keep an eye on those disk gangs because they will get loose ! IH uses a flat center on there blades so the spools don't have a concave or convex contour to them so your only getting one spot on each side that is holding the blade to the spool . I put IH blades (flat center) on a JD disk because it had been run loose so long that the concave and convex was gone from the spools except for the ends and I used the curved blade on them. Keep an eye on it cause it will ether work loose or they will brake at the spool. So keep a close eye on them. Bandit
@boehmfarm4276
@boehmfarm4276 7 лет назад
I wondered about the curve verses flat. We'll see what happens. I was hoping that the curve would act as a spring to keep the gangs tight.
@banditfarmer1900
@banditfarmer1900 7 лет назад
They will to a point but they may get stress cracks around the spools and if they brake that's ware it will be at. You'll have to keep an eye on it for sure and I hope they don't brake. Bandit
@indianahoosier7113
@indianahoosier7113 7 лет назад
couldn't you have just welded up the worn out spots from the old disc bells ?
@boehmfarm4276
@boehmfarm4276 7 лет назад
The blades are too worn, and the welds would break.
@lukestrawwalker
@lukestrawwalker 2 года назад
Welding disk blades doesn't end well... for one thing, welding 2 inches of steel around a disk blade isn't feasible, and 2) disk blades are high carbon steel-- welding them usually makes them brittle and the weld metal is softer, so they just crack next to the weld... my old man tried welding up disk blades one time that were cracking out around the center and just made a d@mn mess... Once you've gotten the life out of them, it's time to replace them. Later! OL J R :)
@langstonrowe8243
@langstonrowe8243 3 месяца назад
Maybe safety glasses and gloves would be appropriate 🤦‍♂️
@tapertrain1614
@tapertrain1614 7 лет назад
please wear safety glasses. Getting metal in your eye is no fun
@boehmfarm4276
@boehmfarm4276 7 лет назад
It is horrific, I did forget the glasses, the bow with grinding wheels has a couple pairs in it.
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