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Sir Can you charge Around Rs 600 to Rs 800 and mentor for around 15 minutes so that job aspirants will get more useful insights related to their career❤(through Video Call)
@@hyderabadeducationandphilan777 I don't get time to do 1-1 mentoring. There are more than 80+ requests that I need to attend right now & not able to get time to them. So not taking any more requests
Studying in Germany and you are on your own to find the job, make connections, apply hundreds of jobs nothing is spoonfeeded here. The University says we are here to give you quality education not a job consultancy company.
I did MBA from tier 3 bschool in 2009, couldn't land a job because of Lehman crash. After 15 years, I am earning very well infact much better from the ones who grabbed offer from campus. It is how you play with your options and choices you make. I am not ashamed to admit that being MBA helped my profile picked out of lot many applicants. But at the end, it is your skills , hard work and the LUCK. Just because I have tik tok now i cannot abuse my bachelors degree done in different time. Hope people get it.
Sir i am currently doing my computer engineering and im planning to go for an mba by preparing for cat so would you really recommend doing an mba or rather get a job right now
@@vishalkanwar2333There is something called Brand, Maybe today Most of see Btech as something that We can easily Got to know through YT. But If someone is from IIT errespect os his Branch Any manager treat him like a Gem.
Doing an MBA from top 40-50 b-schools is going to shape you professionally as well as personally competitive for the market. Otherwise rest B-schools are a waste of time and money
As an IIM alum, I can tell that while the job market fluctuates, the RoI from a good MBA cant be judged by 1st years CTC, its a lot more benefits that you reap in the long term and not just immediately monetary
Education and Employability are two different things! Employability has more to with mindset, driven by overall mental well-being. Report shows 18-24 as the most vulnerable and help needing segment across all socio demographic cuts!
Completely one sided opinion for the following reasons: 1) Not considering colleges like FMS and IITS. Focus is only on ISB and PGPX (Not even core MBA program of IIMA) 2) Scaring students in the name of elections. What if it is favourable, equally beneficial right? 3) Future prediction for 2025: What if any other pandemic or natural disaster comes or any or anything else happens. Maybe you are not even alive in the next year lol. You should never lose an opportunity on the basis of predictions that makes no sense. 4) Bad ROI for MBA then let’s talk about medical and engineering these days. IITD kids are settling for 10 LPA so students should stop studying and doing their undergrad as well? Also, ROI is not an year thing. 5) And the market was really down last year. So maybe you should make a video on why people who did MBA last year will fail in getting good career.
I agree with you on having holistic/long term view of doing MBA rather than fluctuating market conditions. Would just like to correct on one point: only the one-year programs from ISB, IIMs are considered MBA by global standards. All rankings you see for FT, QS, Economist are given for the 1-year program. The two year program are graded as MIMs. The rationale behind is obvious today- an MBA without good experience on your resume is only theoretical and not a great learning experience.
I agree phele muje log bole Btech Mt kr private se abhi BMS kr raha hu mumbai mein and planning to do MBA Lekin yeh keh rahe MBA Mt Karo UPSC ,, SCC ki taiyari karne jao Toh PRASANT JI kehte hai kyu time waste Kr rahe ho......akhir kare toh kya kare very confusing .....
@@RajYadav-ej6uj wahi naa agar kuch karne ke liye motivate ho to itne sare videos mil jayenge aap ko confuse karne ke liye aap kuch soch bhi nahi payenge... Esliye khud se hi analyse kare aur apne interest ke according field choose kariye.
Your videos are an eye opener and give reality check which is much more useful than watching videos talking about 45lpa for freshers in faang and getting false motivation
Great insight, To really opt for an MBA degree if are moving from an individual contributor to managerial or leadership roles , Present Market has lot of uncertainties. saving for a rainy day is top priority.
1. Top B-schools struggling to place their students: True, the job market is tough right now, but the brand value of IIMs pays off in the long run. Even during COVID, the top IIMs didn't face significant difficulties and are still thriving. Despite lockdowns, SP Jain, IIM l , FMS and many other top B-schools have released placement reports for the current batch, and while there may be a slight decrease in placements, it's still decent enough to kickstart careers, with opportunities for growth in the future. Also, ISB is the only school charging over 40L in fees, and he only mentions this college as a reference. Mind you, the average fees of any IIM or B-school is around 25L, with an average package of 30L+, so you're still getting better ROI. Plus, you pay fees for 2 years and get a salary for as long as you work, not just for one year, and you also get incremental increases. Furthermore, if you're continuously mentioning the top few colleges of ISB, then mention FMS, which charges only 2L in fees with a 30L+ package. Show both sides of the coin, buddy. This is blatant manipulation.
Sahi baat hai,,,,,in mba waale chutiyon ko bas topic chahiye video banane ke liye, pure video ka koi crux nahi hai, bc market hamesha bura hi rehta hai,,,to koi mba na kare,,,,,chutiyapa kar raha h
Pavan, your diligent research and insightful contributions are truly invaluable. The depth of your analysis and the clarity of your findings have the potential to steer countless students away from potential missteps in their academic journey. Your willingness to share such valuable information is not only admirable but also greatly appreciated. Thank you for your significant impact in guiding others towards informed decisions.
I am from one of the old IIMs. And i do not recommend people to go for an MBA unless its very low cost-high reward one like FMS, JBIMs or you belong to a rich family so student loan wont be a concern
Completely agree with the point of having more than 50% freshers in the classroom. It adds no value in learning if your peers have never been in the corporate or have worked by themselves before joining a master's degree.
yes it is true that the pl,acements are going down due to slow down, but keeping in mind the rate of growth of India, when US comes to previous situation (which is probably within 5 yrs), the need of MBA would increase drastically.
Hi Pavan, I cannot completely agree with one of your points that if the placment situation in Tier I B schools is grave now, the situation in Tier 2 and Tier 3 will be even worse. I would say the supply demand chemistry of Tier 1 colleges are fairly different from that of Tier 2, Tier 3 colleges. The profiles that the company come for in Tier 2 and Tier 3 colleges are different. A few examples can be IT Business Analyst, Sales profile in BFSI or Operations job in BFSI. Basically a role far away from the word "strategy", "M & A" bluh bluh. Such roles cost less and hence company will be able to offer. Also such roles are available due to organic businss growth of the companies even if there is no major expansion happening in the companies. But once kick started with such role and profile, the individual from Tier 2 and Tier 3 college has all possibilities and resources available in the universe to help him throttle through professional career. In a era of information, an individual from Tier 2 and Tier 3 college can avail all kind of certifications, short term courses to enrich and equip himself along with his ongoing job role. Career is a long journey and the storm of Tier 2 and Tier 3 event in a candidate's life may not work act as an eclipse all throughout his life. Obviously hard work and availing the right opportunties can wipe out the eclipse of having a degree from Tier 2 or Tier 3. I have many many examples is what I can say. I am just sharing my experience as one the perspectives. But many thanks for our informative video.
MBA from a good college does work wonders , all influencers shout ROI ROI ... it's the dumbest thing ever ... You pay thru the 2 years , you earn for 30-35 years after that ... Not everyone has super skills without a formal higher education , not all can get into FMS or jbims or IITs, .... Return on investment needs to be calculated over years and I haven't heard of anyone in this entire world from a tier 1 or top tier 2 college ever struggling in life for job, money or career opportunities ... Coupled with hardwork , MBA can help you reach miraculously high in your career and your life ... Period.
To summarize 1. Placement Issue 2. Job type and satisfaction 3. Low work experience 4. Less practical learning skills. And make more networks with your classmates in your college. Basically experience nahi ho aur skill nahi ho toh mat karo MBA even top colleges arent able to do the right placement to students just on the basis of their marks.
See, it's totally based on your perspective... If you want to bet then you can and if you want to drop 1 or 2 year its totally upon you... No one know what will be the situation after 1 or 2 years... Maybe we can see a huge spike or maybe more decline it's your choice... The people entering 2022-24 doesn't know these going to happen because at that time situation was different things were good... So what if entering in 2024 or 2025 will end good ??? It's on you... And one more thing i want to highlight... If you come under top 25% students in the class you are still getting around 25-30lpa which is not bad... Once the situation make u-turn you'll get back on track asap... It's totally your choice... I am going inside in 2025 no matter what... I will work my ass off i will get myself in top 25% i will do whatever i can to get highest possible opportunity ❤
Dude. 80% of seats in IIMs are reserved so how can you say they are finding it difficult to place the batch it's because of the tough job market. It's all because of reservations and undeserving people flooding the IIMs. Also, I don't think that IIMs value work experience as eventually selection is decided based on your GD and speaking skills, not your knowledge or intelligence.
If someone plans to take MBA why not take it now? The content of the course expense same in future. If you say don't take MBA ever it has some meaning. what to do if you are 3 years experience already..
Sir, how can i become a ceo or coo of a multinational company, by which stream or course should i choose, as a career conultant can you give me some right advise💯♥️
I have completed by B tech from India and MBA from Philippines. By virtue of my journey I can say that what ultimately matters in the long run is the "skills" that you develop. Hence think about how MBA would help you gain those skills and be where you want to be in life. Don't just blindly get into an MBA degree (especially for highly sucessfull engineers).
@@penumarthikasi2387 it is highly contexual and depends on which path that you take after MBA. If you are building a job/ career you need the hard and soft skills in that area (e.g. Analytical skills, Market and competition analysis, Customer interviews and insights). Similarly if you are taking a entrepreneur route you would need to understand/ craft how to create value proposition, manage money and team (basically business and product building skills)
@@productmanagementbyutsav3069hey brother , i have really intrst in buisness and entrepreneurship, nd im confused now to wht to do , i have neet exam i go there nd do my entrepreneurship journey ghere or go to iim bodh gaya with education loan nd make netwrk nd learn skills nd create wht ever buissnes i creat wht i do please help me ,
Doing an MBA without any work ex is seriously the worst thing that Indian b schools can offer to ANY incoming student. The learning would be uni directional with next to zero input from the students.
@@neelbhalani5559 Based on what I have experienced, a person should have at least 2/3 years of hard core hands on technical experience + min of 2 years of team management experience before opting for MBA That way he/she gets maximum out of the course in terms of awareness about what actually works in the real world vs just bookish knowledge that most no experience MBA's provide.
@@main_stream_media_is_a_joke If I take job experience in a mechanical field and then if I pursue MBA, will I get a chance to work in IT Industry? Or I'll be placed according to my past experience domain fields mostly? Also, if someone has work experience from IT, will he get the advantage after doing a MBA to work in the IT industry ?
@@neelbhalani5559 Working in mech or any industry for that matter will give you a basic hands on experience that is invaluable in the long run. Make sure that along with your core tech skills(mech) you also develop team management skills(that will happen when you have at least 3+ years of tech experience) With that background i.e tech + team management skills, doing an MBA will greatly help you to absorb what the course is trying to teach you. Moving to IT after your MBA (with your mech background) - the best option is to take up a consulting role initially and then ease yourself into IT. An IT guy with an MBA will at least have more exposure to IT as compared to a guy with a mech background but the pivot that you are talking about is absolutely possible.
being a 2024 grad job market kharab job nahi lag rahi h, ms wale dost bol rahe unhe bhi job nahi mil rahi, mba nahi kar sakte right now cause iim can't place there students, toh kare toh kare kya freshers
Students can explore sector specific course like Master of Hospital Administration ( MHA) from Tata institute of social sciences, which gives great ROI and stable career
Sir, is public health good option from TATA Institute of Social Sciences in terms of placement and career graph for a Non-medical candidate? Please reply sir!
Okay .. My counter argument is , although the immediate situation is bad.. after couple of years you can easily reach to high end of 6 figures to even 7 figures if you have an MBA esp from schools like ISB & IIM ABC. You'll get access to opportunities which is not available to just about anyone. So in the long run your ROI is going to be good.
It's about adding value. I have around 5.5 yoe and work at a US based software company, make about 50 per annum, and I feel Software Engineers directly add value to the product. On the other hand, a lot of PMs and PGMs in my team can't even write the stories properly because of lack of in depth understanding of the product. If a few PMs and PGMs are let go, it won't have much impact. However, if ANY software developer leaves our team, it would seriously affect the project
I have about 6 years of work experience and am planning to pursue an MBA for the 2024-26 batch. I have offers from 2 B schools as of now. Would it be a wise option to pursue MBA at this stage?
Hi Pavan, I wanted to let you know that I really enjoyed your video. It was great, especially in comparison to what many others are saying about pursuing an MBA in the current job market. However, I noticed that there is a key issue that needs to be addressed in your argument. You seem to be confusing PGDM courses with PGPX/ISB courses. In PGPX courses, there is no issue with work experience. However, in one-year courses, the problem of career pivoting still remains, which is why people who want to pivot into different domains usually look for options outside of India. Another point I want to highlight is that while it is true that the job market is not in great shape right now, and placements are down compared to last year, what options do freshers (from lower tier colleges) and those with 1-2 years of work experience have in such a market? If they have a good job option in hand, then they should definitely continue with their job. However, if they don't have such options, doing a PGDM makes sense. You only do your MBA once, so making an informed choice is key. However, one shouldn't disregard it just on the basis of the current job market. Look at it from the current graduating batch's perspective, they entered into an MBA during a stellar market, yet they are facing trouble right now. So, everyone should do their own due diligence before making such a decision. It is indeed true that the current job market is in a poor condition, and it is also true that top colleges are still offering a 30 LPA average package. The choice is yours to make.
Even in PGPX, it is the case. People are not getting the right opportunities they were receiving in 2022. I talked to people doing their PGPX as well!!!
@@PavanSathiraju Yeah, I'm with you on that. PGPX folks don't really need to do an MBA at the moment since they have the opportunity to keep working in comparatively better roles. But for PGDM students, it's a bit more complicated because the other choices aren't all that great either.
@PavanSathiraju If I take job experience in a mechanical field and then if I pursue MBA, will I get a chance to work in IT companies? Or due to my past work experience I'll be mostly placed in some past work ex related companies. Also, a person who has work experience from IT has advantage to work in IT company after a MBA?
👏This is the most pragmatic video I've seen in contrast to the popular advice nowadays **When the market is down, invest in your higher education.** 👉Someday make a video on how you research any subject so well and explain it flawlessly! Sir, btw, you also know Indian students abroad are facing a lot of challenges from hate crime murders to tough job prospects, Why don't you make a reaction video to Soch by Mohak Mangal's well-researched video on Indian Students moving abroad video?
all points are very trivial, its still worth it to do MBA considering your college is well known and reputed! You go to any other country and do MBA, you'll face the same issue, yes, regarding the expereince req I can agree but it doesnt matter in the long run!
So what's the solution? What should a fresher do? You mentioned the job crisis and good opportunities after masters, but what about those who graduated from tier 2-3 colleges? This video reeks of manipulation. LET ME GIVE YOU A SUGGESTION The whole world is facing recession, making it the perfect time to pursue your masters. These 2 years, you don't have to settle for low pay or undesirable jobs; it's the ideal time to further your education and be prepared for the market and placements when you join in 2026, when the situation improves. And hey, buddy, we don't pursue MBA just for a fat paycheck; it's way more than that. So stop deceiving people. Jai Hind.
It was insightful... thanks... even the short term management courses offered by IIMs are taking the shares of job market for professional as they're already in field
In India, very few people get jobs after A commerce degree. Even Bulge bracket banks that hire from good colleges, mostly offer ops roles. While you can certainly excel in a capacity in those roles, exposure might be limited. Do you think that will have detrimental effect on the B- school applications for international school, even if the work ex is in, lets say Goldman? How can we make up for it. A lot of people are alos from good front end PE VC roles
Agree with you but what i am seeing in the market is fresher from good b school in India earns more than 3,4 year experienced professional who has more skills and have more impact on project. I personally observed in my team that IIM guy who makes same ppt and doing same work gets paid 2X more than my other team mate but in actual that experienced team mate (not from IIM) gets lot of appreciation for his good work and more project value addition. Brand Matters !!!
Great Research! Work ex is indeed an overlooked aspect when it comes to Indian b schools and it will definitely have an impact during recruitment(for someone who's trying to make a pivot) especially during the downtimes which is clearly highlighted in the video. One more important point mentioned is the increase in class size. One may look at this as a positive aspect thinking that now we have a lot of people to network with. That is true to an extent, but recruiters can't give a job to everyone
But sir, what if one is an older candidate (>31 years) and have everything riding on mba and its subsequent placement? Would you suggest the same? What if market doesn't improve even after 1 yr / after 2 yrs?
Why we need mba if a good engineer, or statician can take up product management, or financial management job. Mba is a degree and this era of where knowledge can be easily acquired, doing mba does not seems worth in long run
Sir what if i have completed my graduation in different strem but i have work ex in different stream , will this work ex get counted in admission pocess ?
After cing this video and comments i was confused iam 2023 passed out batch currently iam preparing for cmat i wasted 1yr to do mba..... Iam still confused should i have to do mba or not
Sir, can we interpret it as Tier 1 colleges are getting less offers then maybe Tier 2 & Tier 3 are getting more offers as the higher salaries are demanded by Tier 1 colleges ?
@@PavanSathiraju You are way more senior and experienced than me but the thing is top IIMs ( old ones) struggling with placements are totally flawed ... What is going wrong in 2024 is that as always IIMs call limited companies to their campus and due to market situation they hired less if compared to normal circumstances hence people end up getting unplaced, but all it will take is call more companies and they will be placed with equally good package The same might not be true for baby IIMs and other MBA colleges
wahi na nhi pta itna experience hone ke baad bhi iim tags ki bezzati kar rahaa hai itna bhi market down nhi haiiiii bhaiii iim tags ki izzat vizag mai bhi 15L + GYA market down ke baad bhi@@tarun4905
But sir job uncertainty is there all over the world right now. Not everyone can afford an MBA from abroad. In that scenario, all those who are doing IPM mat coaching for 5 years BBA MBA integrated programs offered by IIM indore, Ranchi, Rohtak, IIM bodhgaya, lucknow and all, what should they do now ? Continue doing IPM mat to pursue BBA MBA from the above mentioned institutions? They also costs you 40 plus lacs. Pls advice. It may help us . Thank you
Nowadays everyone wants to do mba form IIM. There lots of mba already and in long run they dont prove fruitful to the companies. High pay for the work that can be done by some one who has a bachelor degree too
Best do marketing job after mba. Later develop relations with customers. Afterwards start own business and sell products needed by same customers to them and enjoy life for rest of life expanding business. Get one driver. Car. Travel for few years like hell for your own business and game set. More you travel more fast you collect funds back and rotate and grow MBA degree to learn tricks , by 30 start own business. Finish mba by 26. 4 years work for company in sales.
Pavan, I am 23y old. I wanna get a MBA degree from IIM so that it can work as a safety net for me, as i wanna start my own startup moving ahead. Current I am working as a Software Engineer, I fear that if I delay it by another year then I am getting old to start a company.
you want to start your own startup but don't know how MBA is going to help you ? For StartUp, one needs an idea that can click, not a certificate paper.
What are your views on FMS Delhi? Let's say if one can afford even top IIMs too but has to decide between both. Would FMS still make sense for him/her?
Hi Mr. Pavan, Can you make a video on 10+2 level education in India. How to prepare for a career in engineering without these coaching institutes. How can today's kids and parents navigate this nightmare!!
I think its not the responsibility of the college to place the students. Its the place you get knowledge and great connections. This is what is been followed around the world outside India.
Hello sir there is an online programme called Global Governance Initiative (GGI) which provides 1 year or 6 months MBA course and claims that many of their students have been recruited by Companies like BBM ....but I have no idea how legit their claims are ....should I go with that paid course ? ....please can you make a video on this topic bcoz students like us cannot end up investing so much money & time on a vague course
okay so my persepective to the roi battle is completely different let's suppose you pay something around 24 lakhs pa for your mba and u bag a 28 lpa who the hell thinks it's a bad offer like why are we running over getting the roi in the same year like even if i pay 30 lakhs and get a job of 30 lakhs forget 1 year the next year u cover the amt you invested and now after working for 2 years if you feel like changing the company u would look for a little higher package and shift where is the problem like why do we want offers which are like 18 lakhs fees and a package of 48 lakhs like okay that's a great offer but in my opinion something like a 24 for a 30 is also quite good so i don't think so mba is bad as an option
I can help you with this. I know a real estate broker who offers you Flats and Villas with less than half the amount you have quoted, that too in Hyderabad
Australia education system is big scam, don't come here they will charge you 80 lacs to give you no job at the end of mba course. I have spoken to so many students, they are depressed.....
I recommend anyone who's serious about mba and planning to go to top b-schools. Dont watch it, it will make u confuse and will bring all the negativity in ur preparation. People need to understand, Education and employability is two different things. We grow constantly in life after MBA, eventually end up doing somthing good in life. I prefer to skip this shit, cus i know it will f**k up my head.
1) MBA is a business degree. If you can't calculate your ROI & just say "We will do something good in life anyways", you need to reconsider your choices. 2) Understanding multiple perspectives and taking an informed decision is what you will learn in MBA. If you ignore perspectives - not sure what you will learn from your classmates!!
@@PavanSathiraju I haven't seen the video yet!! The title itself is scary. Imagine a person working hard to get into a top b-school, working his ass off only to see a video which probably says IIM can't make ur career. This is the kind of negativity my mentor adviced me to avoid. I understand, this might be an eye opener, but most people like me, it will be a scary one. When everything is on the line for that person. You need to choose a better title than this.
@@dibakardakua Arey dude.. Watch the video!!! You can't avoid something and comment on it! You will find more nuanced perspectives once you watch the video carefully. You are deciding like that friend character in Sanju movie - reading the headline. But there is a "?" at the end:) And you will realize the nuance!!
@@PavanSathiraju okay sir!! I will watch it when I'm not tensed. If not in 2024 what about 2025 or 26 or 2027?? Is it going to be same forever? IIM cannot make career forever?
@@dibakardakuaMBA from a good college does work wonders , all influencers shout ROI ROI ... it's the dumbest thing ever ... You pay thru the 2 years , you earn for 30-35 years after that ... Not everyone has super skills without a formal higher education , not all can get into FMS or jbims or IITs, .... Return on investment needs to be calculated over years and I haven't heard of anyone in this entire world from a tier 1 or top tier 2 college ever struggling in life for job, money or career opportunities ... Coupled with hardwork , MBA can help you reach miraculously high in your career and your life ... Period.
Sir AI coming in tech field which reducing man power so ultimately reducing manager position and this will increase by time so as a 12 th pass ehat should I do .
What is your objective for doing that program? Is it placement? Is it just getting a brand tag? Or something else? Once you decide on the objective. Talk to some current students or recent grads and see if you can fullfil that objective!
@@PavanSathiraju hope you didn't mind the cmnt❤️ you are way experience and knowledgeable than me. 🙇🏻 I understood the Overarching point you are making and it's of immense value for MBA aspirants like myself. Thank you!
So what about people who want to pivot their careers. What should they do if not mba. Specially when they are freshers.. because i have legal experience but i want to get into finance what do i do.
Just when I decided to study for CAT 2024, seeing the job market is bad even for IITians(yes the placement season got FUBARed this year ), this video popped up. 😶
