IJN Mutsu - Total Firepower Escalation [War Thunder]

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The ship that delivers not just sharply stamped holes through thick armour at range, but it actually hurts. I had fun, that is all that I can say. Might change soon (TM).
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@zwang7050 6 месяцев назад

Naval before alpha strike updates feels like shit cuz shell damage is arbitrary, now it feels absolutely OP, killing BB with 1 salvo of secondaries rounds should not be happening....

@penclaw 6 месяцев назад

We all knew what gaijin touches and calls a fix is..

@gandalfderfette3105 6 месяцев назад

Yeah it’s to much now

@karldergrosse-333 6 месяцев назад

I can tell the changes will be good, if tuned down some.

@WigSplitters 6 месяцев назад

Why is it bad it just makes for an easier grind

@ronaldmcreagann6343 6 месяцев назад

@@WigSplitterswhen it isnt happening to you. It’s also just dumb in general regardless, because balance should be a thing.

@MarshFlyFightWin 6 месяцев назад

Personally I'd love to see the sisters to Graf Spee. As each were different depending on there configuration they're put in the game for Deutschland/Lutzow, and Admiral Scheer

@tangohotel2599 6 месяцев назад

Deutschland and Lützow are the same ship btw, they renamed her because of fear of having a ship named after Germany sunk

@MarshFlyFightWin 6 месяцев назад

@@tangohotel2599 Yeah that's why I had her two names with a slash to show same ship.

@Leonid_Brezhnev1 6 месяцев назад

What for?

@danielzaba9913 6 месяцев назад

Naval is broken. It takes literally 2 shells, to destroy a coastal vessel, any vessel, and not even big shells, just 15-20mm. Yes 20mm, not 200.

@ErdenizSANLAV 6 месяцев назад

Kinda seems insane adding this now out of the blue. 16 inchers with a reload equaling the fastest firing capital ships to boot. Together with how insane the damage model got this patch, and with a lineup of other very powerful ships waiting should this thing die, anyone besides Japanese players at top tier will be at best "also ran" for some time I guess. Dunkerque for French would be a more needed and less crazy inclusion in my opinion. Or Repulse as a tech tree equivalent to Renown for UK. Also so many historically cool battlecruisers from Britain and Germany remaining, I'd love Tiger, Derfflinger, Moltke and/or Seydlitz. Late refit TCG Yavuz (formerly SMS Goeben) could also be an interesting event reward or premium. Same goes for Tegethoff class from Austro-Hungarian Empire.

@jjstuartonwriting8150 6 месяцев назад

Japan needed this because we don't have wonder ship battlecruisers like the Kronshtadt or the Scharnhorst that seal club every other ship on a regular basis. Every nation has a powerful battlecruiser except Japan. The BIGGEST issue right now in naval is for them to fix their servers. about 25-35% of games end with "bad network connection". This only happens in naval.

@DerImperator-wh5tz 6 месяцев назад

Because Japan never Build any except for the Kongo class, the Amagis were never Built except Akagi but that ship got converted into an Aircraft carrier, and Japan has a lot of good BB at 7.0

@jjstuartonwriting8150 6 месяцев назад

But we needed something to deal with the battlecruisers who constantly own IJN battleships. @@DerImperator-wh5tz

@kiranplays2688 16 дней назад

kronshtadt is literally the worst 7.0 in the game and by a huge margin too. it used to be the 2nd best ship in game after the scharnhorst but people cried about it so much that they nerfed the armor to paper. now anything that is 6.3 or higher will one shot you if they hit you in the front 2 turret area.

@valentintapia1956 6 месяцев назад

I feel like the new damage mechanics are absolutely broken and were a mistake by gaijin. I started playing naval a couple of months ago and I had been enjoying it quite a lot. Now after this new update it's the complete opposite. I hate it. I play mostly the japanese and I'm only about to start researching tier IV. The amount of BS I've seen in matches lately is insane, such as my IJN Kako getting 1 shotted by american DDs (which seem to be dominating low tier now) from 10km away right after spawning, or me just 1 shotting a destroyer with my secondaries' HE, and this just repeats in every match I play. As soon as 1 or 2 ships focus you, you know it's very likely that you'll instantly explode or your crew will go to 0% after a few salvos. It's just frustrating imo.

@ForHonorHater 6 месяцев назад

2019 naval is BACK… and not in a good way.

@doughnut3508 6 месяцев назад

Yeah been having and seeing bb fights in my game where its to see who shoots first and whoever hits close to the turrets is dead because of unrealistic ammorack

@WigSplitters 6 месяцев назад

@@doughnut3508 it's not unrealistic

@alexturnbackthearmy1907 6 месяцев назад

@@WigSplitters It absolutely is. You dont even need AP to kill a battleship anymore, many of them get lol-pens in ammorack by SAP.

@Thelogboss 6 месяцев назад

This update is absolute shit, might not even finish the event because of how broken naval is now

@TheJimyyy 6 месяцев назад

At close range it have the most pen long range missipi win

@Benjaminsquad391 6 месяцев назад

Tax man 😊❤️👍

@lasombra120680 6 месяцев назад

The 12" 50cal Alaska guns are still amazing. Not mad as a USA main. Soon we hit the era of legitimate US naval dominance. The fast class BB's ect

@JadigertheReal 6 месяцев назад

Broken HE you can will all with tiny guns, because of a broken update. Naval is now dead. The forum is full of raging people who spends real money and have brocken ships. When gaijin not fix it, naval will be dead. And it was already nearly dead, now it has lost the last fans. Players have left naval, now you see 2/3 bots. Lets talk about the game is dead? It dosent mather what in this patch is good, becouse there no players anymore! Refunds is the word who mathers, there can not sell a produkt thats in one day is crap! Repaircost are higher then ever! Update logic how we can make more money! The players are in one ship the game, no there must die faster. The seasion pass? Who pays the days back?

@JadigertheReal 6 месяцев назад

@@WigSplitterstake you head out of the ....

@Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese 6 месяцев назад

Naval BR being capped at 7.0 is also a problem in and of itself

@evobsm2328 5 месяцев назад

Watch yamato being introduced at 7.0 aswell.. that will be... pain.

@OregonYeti 7 дней назад

Yamato will either be dropped as 7.0 premium and will ruin naval or they’ll be smart and use it to raise the BR cap. But it’s Gaijin so I think we know what they’ll do and it won’t be smart

@oliverwange8264 6 месяцев назад

Was playing earlier in the day and wow, every match was about 4 minutes. Im surprised they didnt add the Colorado or Maryland as they came out the same time as the Nagato's. Dunkerque wouldve been an awesome addition too.

@ousou78 6 месяцев назад

Since damage modele for ships are drastictly different in this new update, it would be hard to say if Mutsu's 16inch actually hit hard or if it's just the new damage modele at work. Scharnhorsts were practically imune to 14inch before but now I kill them with not much struggle. I will have to get my hands on Mutsu to be sure.

@Napalmratte 6 месяцев назад

High pen and 24 sec would be sweet in old model as Well tbh

@doughnut3508 6 месяцев назад

I personally hate the new shrapnel mechanic for Naval. Battleship fights now turn into 5 second fights and its so annoying. I fire 1 salvo at a Scharnhorst which is one if the tankiest ships if not THE TANKIEST ship in naval dies in 1 salvo. From the games that Ive played matches go by so fast. Its annoying to see how when a ship starts shooting at you it makes you think “will I be 1 shot”. Cause that has been my experience. I play Scharnhorst 1 shot, Bayern 1 shot, Mississippi 1 shot, Fuso 1 shot. Sorry about my rant. But bb fights turn into like 10 second fights and its simply not fun

@regn97 6 месяцев назад

Noo.. im still grinding for the scharnhorst, i was very excited to play it while it was "the best" ship.

@zwang7050 6 месяцев назад

Naval Arcade and RB now both feels like ground RB, in fast food pace :(((((

@cherchezlesoir7166 6 месяцев назад

That is the purpose of this changes. Burning silver, making people buy prem shit. And this napalm is one of those noobs who always told: play naval u make tons of silver. This is the result: sinking in 1 min, huge costs,low profit. Well done Mr. Gaijin promo troll

@ayylmao8901 6 месяцев назад

I like it, but only for DD vs DD fights. Lobbing a salvo of HE at someone last patch would barely put a dent into the enemy ship. Now it actually feels good, albeit a bit overtuned.

@doughnut3508 6 месяцев назад

@@ayylmao8901 I dunno famn facing a SKR-7/1 in a destroyer is your death sentence. Unless u cant disable his guns youre essentially dead

@the_frenchy4270 6 месяцев назад

The new damage model feels weird, somehow the other one felt a bit better damage wise. Also, the repair bug is not fixed yet

@cherchezlesoir7166 6 месяцев назад

Crap, like in all other gameparts. High tiet naval same crap like ground and air. Its all about PAYING...don t go behind mid tier.

@Napalmratte 6 месяцев назад

Not really

@STRYKER1467 6 месяцев назад

Mutsu is worse than missisippi, personally japanese ships lack aa guns and often get implemented without any aa guns, especially for germany its basically only the scharnhorst which is 7.0 material all the battleships in the germany tree have either 1-2 88mm guns for AA or none at all while america gets refit after refit anti air monster ships.

@Caktusdud. 6 месяцев назад

You talk about AA on BBs as if naval has a CAS issue. Im telling you the ships in naval are calling for the planes in ground battles. They ain't answering.

@WigSplitters 6 месяцев назад

i really like naval battles, but i dont know how gaijin dont realise that not many more people will play naval because you need FOUR HUNDRED FUCKING THOUSAND RP FOR 1 SHITTY BB

@wafiqa4777 6 месяцев назад

yeah, the change on naval i can really feel it especially the japan 356mm SAP with 60kg tnt. its also make me feel all ships is equal now in its own BR

@karldergrosse-333 6 месяцев назад

It seems like each nation is getting its own unique, niche, "features" of their respective navies almost.

@comradevlad7459 6 месяцев назад

Honestly, this ship along with this update just shoves the US standards deeper into the irrelevant hole they've been stuck in since Arizona came out. Mississippi almost had an edge with its AP round, but now with Mutsu utterly blowing it out of the water in gun performance its yet another useless US disappointment. Honestly why would you pick literally any US bb right now over Mutsu? Armor doesn't matter since there's armor degeneration now, and that's really all the standards had anyway so. Needless to say the only reason to even play the US at top tier is for the DPM cruisers, especially in this new whacky meta.

6 месяцев назад

Same here. There is no point of grinding the US ships. For what? 40+ sec reload, below average HE shells, AP shells with smaller amount of TNT. At least the British ships have nice HE, good reload. The germans have reload and very good armour The japanese battleships have amazing AP shells The russians have magic shells No point of grinding the US line, and I made a terrible mistake of doing that.

@WigSplitters 6 месяцев назад

Napalm, can you tell me why gaijin thinks its ok to put these larger ships behind a fuck off huge 400k RP barrier, no ones grinding that shit

@Napalmratte 6 месяцев назад

Welcome to failjin suffertainment

@baalrech 6 месяцев назад

Like all games, you need to work hard to get the best stuff.

@WigSplitters 6 месяцев назад

@baalrech yeah but naval is niche as it is, I have grinded the top tier for multiple nation in ground and air, but naval is just pure aids, the same shit over and over for little reward

@lasombra120680 6 месяцев назад

400K is about 25ish games on average for me. Granted, premium account and talismans are a must imo

@WigSplitters 6 месяцев назад

@lasombra120680 I've spent enough money on the game, I know very well that if you have prem and talisman it's easy, but the thing is not enough people give enough of a shit about naval to spend money on it, they way they're going it will only ever be a niche gamemode

@omeritu 6 месяцев назад

I really love what they made in this update to be honest.. I really liked the damages, visuals, shell drop and target tracking etc.. I agree with you that France and Italy should get better ships; I love to see Dunkerque.. Only problem i have so far is i get connection losses.. Yes it was there before but now it happens alot.. Is it me or to everyone?

@Napalmratte 6 месяцев назад

Happened to me Yesterday as well

@WigSplitters 6 месяцев назад

yeh happened to me

@alexturnbackthearmy1907 6 месяцев назад

Same deal, PL is not going below 25.

@66_Lord_Vader_66 6 месяцев назад

When will they give us the modernized battleship Nagato) There will be even thicker armor, more air defense. And the coolest thing will be its rate of fire. After modernization, its rate of fire became 21 seconds, which is 2.9 rounds per minute

@mikemccolum5832 6 месяцев назад

Wouldn't it be funny if gajin give us nagato 45' when she was taken over by the us

@josynaemikohler6572 6 месяцев назад

@@mikemccolum5832 Well she was at this point a partially cannibalized piece of trash. Unrepaired; funnel, secondary armament, many AA guns, searchlight and rangefinder removed, leaking constantly, only two shafts working, 10 knots top speed...

@yukiakito3083 4 месяца назад

Playing the German ww1 battleships suffering rn Slow 283 and 305 getting railed across the map by Khronstandt and Mutsu’s Get close and get railed by scharnhorst

@Napalmratte 4 месяца назад

Welcome to a world of compression...

@jasonmeehan1269 6 месяцев назад

Paper ships are pointless in this patch. 5 minute matches if you are lucky.

@jamestriplett5854 6 месяцев назад

my fav is the new Bretagne, who's secondaries fire 10 degrees left from where you're aiming for no reason

@psychosocialpenguin5358 6 месяцев назад

This patch broke a lot in naval. Damage models are too weak across the board, with bluewater vessels losing 50% crew in a single salvo. Coastal vessels are even weaker, yet the damage their smaller caliber cannons can do against bluewater ships is also magnified out of proportion. I was able to ammo rack a destroyer from 4.5km with an AP 40mm round...Repairs never go away, gun barrels do not repair properly sometimes, flooding sometimes cannot be repaired, HE fragments seem to penetrate all ship modules regardless of size or material (Coal bunkers are treated the same as ammo/elevators/engines) and a host of other bugs I wont bother to name...Naval is in a pretty bad state rn tbh

@Rynnakkosampyla 6 месяцев назад

The new patch feels quite worriesome at rank 3. The american rapidfire guns dominate with high explosive spam and some open turreted ships like the french triumph feel unable to play. Tracking speed and reload trumps everything else. I've had quite the games just chainfiring high explosives one barrel at a time killing ships in under 20 seconds. I don't think the meta is healthy atleast not at rank 3. But i'm very inexperienced in the naval side of things. If you do have the moffet. Now is the time to play it with HE it's completely busted.

@karldergrosse-333 6 месяцев назад

Iron Duke feels disgusting after the changes. SAP and HE are absolutely clubbers.

@cold_raptor 6 месяцев назад

It's kinda hard to find information in the topic, but if my sources are right, the devs made the mutsus guns WAY too strong. Like, more armor penetration than the much more modern 16 inch L/45 guns on the south dakotas. It's ridiculous, how overpowered they made this thing.

@luismariocarbone2723 6 месяцев назад

I think that adding the 410 mm guns, it s the start of the new era of the war thunder ships, for many nations too ( like the littorio class for the italian RN). Yet the problem is that this gamemode is becoming inefficent/boring to play with. They could add something permanently like the escort/ intercept covoys

@eatsnowanddie 6 месяцев назад

ah yes japan gets 10 fucking bbs, only like 2 are doo doo,yes some other nations have about 8 or 9 but most them arent even that good, idc next update we better see some new French bbs added to the game or some bigger bbs like the gnisennau, florida, richileu, vento, with the nagato class here i hope they lay off japan getting more bbs for a while like they did russia

@YamatoPower9000 6 месяцев назад

I've sunk Sharnhorst on Settsu and other battleships on suzuya with HE. You don't need to penetrate them anymore. I hope people won't accept this META. It's blatanly broken.

@WigSplitters 6 месяцев назад

Well u prolly killed them due to lack of crew, not broken

@alexturnbackthearmy1907 6 месяцев назад

@@WigSplitters It absolutely is. By some fucking reason ships begin to uncontrollably sink after few hits and you cant stop it, not to mention that fragments now somehow bypass internal armor and ammorack stuff they shouldnt.

@JadigertheReal 6 месяцев назад

The Meta is the end of naval, so simply is that. Look at the forum! Nobody will this play anymore, you don t need armor you can HE them too dead. And it will be very fast,. Refunds is the only way what gaijin understands.

@mcx8095 6 месяцев назад

WHO PUT LONG LANCES IN HE SHELLS

@corevino 6 месяцев назад

Das schlimme ist ja erst einmal dort hin zu kommen und auch den Grind durch zu halten. Bis aktuell 5.3 hab ich kein Schiff gesehen bei Japan was ausgesprochen gut ist mit Ausnahme der 4.7 zerstörer aber auch nur aufgrund der kadenz

@penclaw 6 месяцев назад

USS Litchfield ready to have her revenge after this update

@christians.597 6 месяцев назад

I hope Gaijin will add King George V soon, needs to come before bigger 16inch ships or won't be that good.

@WigSplitters 6 месяцев назад

if that boy comes, likely bismark and north carolina will also be coming, im looking forward to it. there will probably be a big naval patch where we get the heavier 15/16inch battleships, maybe next patch

@mcpuff2318 6 месяцев назад

KGVs are still fast battleships and have quite punchy guns while having great protection, adding them now would be too much

@helljumper4565 6 месяцев назад

I was really excited about ijn mutsu, but now I’m not any more, why I should grind ijn mutsu when my heavy cruiser can kill battleships as any other Japanese battleship, it doesn’t have sense

@Napalmratte 6 месяцев назад

There is a chance that Gaijin nerfs HE. The guns still kill

@mcpuff2318 6 месяцев назад

Def agree that other countries need more and I agree with getting the Dunkerque but the Littorios would be a bit much as they're proper fast battleships and really equals of Bismarck and the like. The Francesco Caracciolo-class might be more suitable as they're based in WW1 design like Mutsu. We're certainly moving towards WW2 battleships but Nagato/Mutsu is really the least of the 16-inch battleships

@LastRedStar 6 месяцев назад

Could you briefly inform me on how to properly play Dreadnoughts like the Bayern class? I'm very close to unlocking Bayern and with the ongoing event, I will have two Bayern class Battleships to play with. I just want to know how to properly use them if you have any tips, I would love them.

@Napalmratte 6 месяцев назад

Basically, shoot what you can kill, don't shoot what you cannot kill

@djmegaton5897 6 месяцев назад

Bulanikov say people need action

@Thunder000rednuhT 6 месяцев назад

I know I am a bit late, but I expected the Mutsu to be the event vehicle and then in the mext patch we see the tech tree ships with 16” guns like Colorado, Nagato and Littorio.

@JafuetTheSame 6 месяцев назад

I was kinda hoping that gaijin will be more conservative with the camo choices but we kinda have WoW situation on our hands already.

@josynaemikohler6572 6 месяцев назад

How comes, Mutsu has shells, that should only be around from 1925 onwards, when it is said to be of 1922? She is obviously meant to be Nagato class as comissioned, which is also, why she lacks the curved funnel, they got in the mid twenties.

@Napalmratte 6 месяцев назад

Ask Gaijin

@Linerax 6 месяцев назад

Gaijin balances the vehicles in the game by adding or removing specific components or characteristics that would be deemed anachronistic.

@Caktusdud. 6 месяцев назад

They need to tune down the shell damage and increase the survivability of ships across the board right now its ridiculous. When it comes to 16" warships. Gaijin should've added at least 2 together with maybe a good 15" BB. So one ship doesn't dominate. I don't think Gaijin has any idea just how powerful 16" guns are.

@EnclaveXForever 6 месяцев назад

Napalm please address the garbage state the game is in, someone needs to

@Napalmratte 6 месяцев назад

Always has been

@Mt_Wt 6 месяцев назад

Try to play on USS Des Moines

@nicholasleon7819 6 месяцев назад

it’s finally here and i’m too engrossed in helldivers to want to unlock it 😩

@tabanne9738 6 месяцев назад

Sorry, but how do you get your game to display the "hit" text in the center of the screen? I've checked my options and all display options are on yes but it doesn't work for me :( It is so weird to play naval without having the "hit" message in your face instead only getting it on top right on that new interface. I am also not sure if that interface also shows allied hits...? I hate when they do new things and change your default options around or whatever they messed up now.

@heckingsnekdoge 6 месяцев назад

I got ammo racked by SAP HE in my Mississippi.

@robertbirchfield5655 6 месяцев назад

Can anyone tell me what "straddle!" in the new thing upper left means?

@Napalmratte 6 месяцев назад

Basically you have the right distance and shells are landing in front and behind enemy ships. Keep shooting and you will score hits

@robertbirchfield5655 6 месяцев назад

@@Napalmratte Thanks man! Keep up the great work. Some of us truly appreciate what you do!

@duebro822 6 месяцев назад

Never really played naval, but I love the content, big boats are awesome😁

@Salsajaman 6 месяцев назад

The only thing more Chad than a WT naval enjoyer is someone who watches a WT naval youtube channel and doesn't even play the game mode 🗿

@WigSplitters 6 месяцев назад

@@Salsajaman SIGMA ALPHA CHAD(DEFINATLEY NOT AUTISTIC) MAN RIGHT HERE!!!

@faranghis5671 6 месяцев назад

we need video about the state of every naval tech tree now xd

@Broken_ora 6 месяцев назад

the fact they didnt add ANY other 16 inch battle ship or decompress the the holl naval mode is fk up in soo many ways

@linussyren9221 6 месяцев назад

Navel meta has changed? What is new apart from the HUD?

@Napalmratte 6 месяцев назад

HE is back on the menu. Ships feel more fragile, 5inch/38 Drops bombs again

@khanhtran-sw8tc 6 месяцев назад

cant wait for nagato ‘s event ship .

@pavleh4602 6 месяцев назад

Now navy is fun again

@Archmagos_Faber 6 месяцев назад

why do people still play this garbage game mode? gaijin is barely keeping it on life support, the grind is horrid and the gameplay is unrewarding with ugly UI and it all just feels so clunky. I actually prefer to play WOWS that's how bad naval is in war thunder.

@ajace5883 6 месяцев назад

War Thunder wants to be realistic. And this update makes it more realistic. It was NOT realistic at all that you could penetrate a ship for minutes with hundreds of shells and the crew was still somehow able to operate on. Sinking even a battleship in 1 or 2 salvoes IS realistic, it just barely happened in RL because the accuracy is far better in game than it was in RL. In reality, warships sometimes shelled each other for hours without a single hit.

@Napalmratte 6 месяцев назад

I think it is the faster range finding and combined with short Combat distances as well as experiences players

@voidex136 6 месяцев назад

Hello to napalm and other 3 people who still play naval 😂

@alfredorossetti2072 6 месяцев назад

Il danno è diventato qualcosa di casuale... vengo distrutto con lo Scharnhorst da un colpo da 130 mm di un bot...io l ho colpito in pieno con i 283 mm e niente kill

@alfredorossetti2072 6 месяцев назад

Un bug.dietro l' altro..continua ad abbandonare la partita...poi perdo nave e crediti..gaijin ha fatto un lavoro di 💩