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Agree but there are plenty IKEA hacks videos out there, where people fix or remodeling. I took an old white shelf from an IKEA wardrobe and turned it into a fold down table in my kitchen.

@@larsstougaard7097 I'm moving at the moment, so I had to dismantle an IKEA cabinet. Unfortunately, the thin back wall broke, but I can't buy a new one either. It would be much easier to offer spare parts because not everyone has the know-how and the tools.

Or an equivalence chart, so it is easier to purchase the correct part at the hardware store

Or an equivalence chart, so it is easier to purchase the correct part at the hardware store

I have 16 Ikea bookcases. They've lasted over 20 years.

But every company loves that mentality, From clothes, electronics, car even houses (american houses 🤣)

@@sn5301679 yeah exactly. Ikea is like fast-fashion - it’s almost designed to be thrown away. When I got rid of my broken Ikea bed (which broke easily) I chopped it up to take to a recycling centre and it was full of cardboard instead of particleboard (which is shit anyway).

yeah they could recycle it

While I agree. One of the biggest issues is that it's easy to throw stuff away but hard to pass it on. I've been trying to get rid of a worn but still useable couch and a solid oak armore for months when I could just use one of my free large item pickups for the year.

Dumpster diving should be legal. Many stores throw away perfectly good stuff

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Exactly, particle board furniture with fancy laminates are designed to be put together once. Once you disassemble it and move, the quality of the furniture becomes apparent.

@@stingray427man particle boards can be good, but they are far away from cheap. My bed is made from 10mm particle board and everything is fine. Im sleeping on it for 11years and i weigh over 220lbs.

@@ristekostadinov2820 Seems you got your money’s worth, great. Thats not the point, the point is it will break, the glues they use aren’t water proof and joinery on particle board becomes suspect the more you take it apart and put back together. Its basically value furniture thats not designed to be relocated. If that works for you, great.

That is cause most of it is made with China Wood.

I was wondering the same thing. I have a handful of IKEA furnitures that were “handed down” to me from my parents. It’s usually not a professional who screwed it, so you do want to check the screws and joints every other year or so.

Exactly lmao my entire room is furnished with IKEA, with half of them being around 15 years old and going strong. wth do people do with their furniture??

Adding my assent to this. My house is full of IKEA furniture coming up on the 10 year mark now, and I thrifted it all- some was thrifted by the person I accquired it from beforehand! Any furniture I've not needed when moving apartments, I've placed on Gumtree and someone has taken it from me because it was all still in good shape. A few pieces I didn't like anymore have been upcycled so that I did like them. I don't know what the hell people do with their furniture or this flippant attitude towards it.

I bought 2 desks about 5 years ago. Years later and the front edge of the table top has just "flaked off". Same with a bookshelf i bought. They should use a stronger paint. However I just spent like $20 on some Vinyl wrap and they are good as new. (they use cheaper materials imo)

@@nahsiham9782 The paint is crummy. Can't deny that. That's the reason why I don't usually buy painted pieces. Stained wood is much nicer.

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and they are non returnable and spare parts if there are any needed are not provided as it is basically "as is" corner of the store

Well in singapore ikea is not that famous tbh and i did remember going to ikea and i barely seen anyone because the items i saw were expensive huh no wonder why but still im planning to buy some chairs from ikea

@@samuraiboi2735 it's different in Asia as there are so many other cheaper options. But here in North America, their stuff are considered cheap or affordable. Some items could be pricey, but not a lot.

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@@anndo8416 well lucky you most of the objects here in singapore are expensive so my friends bought made in china furniture bit i rather stick to the ikea stuff

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What does single use furniture mean? Like, you sit in a chair once and then throw it away?

@@johnny_eth no more like 1 year and then tossed

I have a couple of kitchen chairs from ikea Öglan the first production from 1961, my parents came to Sweden in 1987 and was very poor back then and got them at a flea market, and when I moved out in 2007 i took them with me, the design is endless, and still use them today in my kitchen. none of them have broken or torn in the rattan. and it's just an example of several products we have from them. The point is, if you tighten screws and wash/clean the furniture, lubricate and water regularly (exemple the rattan), they will last for decades. I think it is more in the mentality how to use or consume products. here in sweden, we learn early on to take care of our stuff and protect the environment at the same time.

@@nimazardara8891 I’m guessing they were built quite a bit better in 1961 than today’s cheap materials.

@@nimazardara8891 Ikea is replacing half the screws with plastic junk, the particle boards directly hold structural parts without any reinforcements and so on. They do make some good quality furniture, but they make a lot of junk that'll eventually fall apart no matter how much care you give them. Offloading the responsibility to the customers is just dishonest.

I think a lot of people consider IKEA as something cheap and temporary and buy something better when the money is there. It's also cheap enough for teens to go and grab something for in their room, but most of the cheap IKEA stuff is really just cardboard and quickly breaks down or wears out.

I think the difference is that things bought at walmart or target are even cheaper and less fashionable so they just end up in the garbage, whereas people might think their ikea stuff is still usable. I love thrift shopping, but sometimes things cost more in the thrift store than in big box stores

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@Radioman Hurricane Anything with any declaration of quality in "Made is Canada" furniture is durable and lasting. We don't use shit wood like pressboard and plywood to build everything and keep in mind if you only buy cheap crap expect it to be cheap crap.

@@s.d.c5513 Exactly. How on earth does someone get that confused.

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Is it just me, or is Ikea stuff usually better than "Mattress Queen" or "Furniture Row" "INSERT NAME OF CRAPPY FURNITURE STORE"

The stuff was original made responsibly. People can bring to goodwill or drop off there or put in curb and sometimes someone will take it. Part of it is organic and will decompose on its own. This is an interesting indirect ad for IKEA. Honestly it might last longer if they didn’t put false backs on shelves and false bottoms on drawers.

In my cynical opinion, someone realized they could get ahead of the inevitable PR nightmare and instead sell a solution while cutting costs, or at least not increase them, and get positive goodwill in the process. Effectively, I seriously doubt they care about the environment, they just expect this to increase profits or at a minimum, minimize upcoming losses.

@@lilacdoe7945 no I think environmentalism is the Christianity of the time. I am the mother of a high school student in the US. Since watching kid cartoons we hear at least three times a days climate change. Or reduce, reuse, recycle, or sustainability. Or reduction of their habitat. Or Endangered. Sometimes a public service announcement (commercial) often hidden in the actual preschool program. Written into the storyline. When he was home for remote learning I was right next him for most of it since he usually has a one on one in school. It is part of reading comprehension and speech exercises. It’s in all the weekly reader type material. My generation heard about pollution (give a hoot) and the great ice age approaching and global warming and the trees being cut down in the Amazon and (only you can prevent forest fires). There should be no trees left as of 19 years ago… IKEA type furniture is more minimal, lighter, cheaper and you feel less guilty changing it up. You don’t need a moving company to get it out of the house in most cases and the money wasn’t too much.

Durable furniture weighs more and costs more. Both are not desired by those moving around from rental to rental. As much of the market does.

@@zoravar.k7904 lazy

@@zombl337og what's lazy about it, this is the market. Even in the past most durable furniture would either costs thousands (oak is €1800/m3, accoya sits around €3000/m3 just for the material) or it would be made of softwoods prone to warping and splitting. Ikea's engineered woods are far more durable than the softwood stuff of the past.

Your grandpas furniture was made from hard wood not crap particle board like most stuff now at days

@@stevejones914 Even if cheap particle board is used, people are throwing things away that just have minor defects in them

@@nicedurians It's pretty easy to destroy particle board by moving it just once. Minor defects in particle board are kinda catastrophic events for cheap crap. Too much cheap shit in this world!

And Ikea is partly to blame for that by making furniture a consumer good

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Two years ago my daughter bought an IKEA desk to use for her computer work. Within a few months a thin, brittle piece of wood broke off the side legs; the wobbly desk still stood on all fours, but the metal pins holding the table top to the side/leg piece started to separate. The “wood” is just painted glued-together sawdust. She had to buy a new desk. IKEA’s “recycling” is nothing more than just another “green” marketing scheme. I wish people would see through it, and buy real wood furniture instead.

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The Billy bookcases are fantastic when taken care of.

@@daisykid3 I have 7 Billy bookcases plus 4 other IKEA bookcases made of solid wood.

@@bngr_bngr I have three Billy's and a wall of Ivar shelves and I love them all. Planning on getting more Billy's after I move in about a month!

You'd think "I'm student. I'm poor" would mean that the resell market of these furniture would be hot. DIY repairs would be no-brainer... In reality, people just want "brand new" and can't be bothered to repair anything. The "just buy a new one" brainwash is stronger than ever.

@@alexfrank5331 I dont know about others but I'd say i bought most of my furnitures second hand

@@alexfrank5331 students do sell. But durable furniture is still not desired since it's hard to move from rental to rental, and the upfront cost is much higher.

the whole video is about ikea making a business model, where people throw away stuff, and then they try to fix the problem that they themselves created, but not by making a better business model, but trying to recycle. your fav company is not particularly "doing good things"

@@bzs4334 recycling is recycling, and if you made a problem, you are allowed to try to fix it

We have assembled and reassembled our bed (2 times) and its still pretty durable

@@antigonajusufi9957 thats a random specific example. Bed frames can usually be reassembled. Other items like shelves or desks cannot. We almsot had to leave our computer desk behind and trash it because we almost couldn't get it down the stairs and its not possible to reassemble.

Old furniture that breaks after a year is not old...

@@anubaral fine, old or broken. 🙄 Why waste peoples time making stupid arguements like this. Does it make your day or just fulfill some desperate cry for attention?

@@s.d.c5513 you know ikea and old can't be in the same sentence... and that example is shown within the first minute of the video. now stfu and go to bed.

Thia green program is just for marketing

Ikea cares about profit. The piece itself says the program is set to run until December 2020 to see if it can turn a profit; if not, it will go.

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Because it was better quality

Fast fashion mindset has spilled into home decor, etc. I know people who buy new furniture quite frequently.... very expensive habit. Many design TV shows have footage of furniture being dumped and people mimic what they see on TV. They purposely buy cheap stuff with the mindset of dumping it in a year or so...

@Michael they make more money by selling more items. 😉

Too expensive for most people. We need an economy that pays people more fairly

@@outtathyme5679 People who say that the "economy needs to pay people more fairly" have no idea what labor is worth for a given job and even less on how the economy works. We're living high on the hog compared to people living 100+ years ago and yet they were able to afford quality furniture. Instead of increasing the wages of burger flippers why not push them towards learning a trade?

@@CaptainBill22 'yet they were able to afford quality funiture' well not really, only if you were middle class or higher, and only if you lived in the west.

@@CaptainBill22 sorry, but that's patently not true. Back in the day, families could afford to have a stay at home mother while living on the husband's salary, now some young people can't afford to have kids even with both spouses working.

That might work if you sold or rent property (importantly a house that you lived in for a long time) fully firnished but at a decent price. The buyer would less likely throw away your furniture if it is well made and really fits the house. Quality custom made furniture that is actually affordable should really come back

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I bought 2 desks a while ago. Now the table top has just "flaked off". I just spent like $20 on some Vinyl wrap and they are good as new.

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As long as the attitude doesn't change the problem will continue. It's a problem seen in most consumer items.

Also, try to assess and fix the broken one first. If the damage is minor, just work it around

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what about Ikea's other products? are they good?

@@user-xl3uf7ie8y there is nothing wrong with IKEAs other products, it’s mainly their furniture designs, most people are unable to to distinguish real wood from laminate particle boards, if you are uncertain you should ask the IKEA floor salesperson. Particle board furniture is really only designed to be assembled once, Ikea knows their furniture doesn’t hold up because they are more than welcome to sell you all new furniture when people move.

​@@user-xl3uf7ie8y You get a lot of value for your money at IKEA, but not even they can make a good quality table for $5. Look at their mid-priced stuff for good quality at humane prices. For example their 365+ series of kitchen ware is great, the HEMNES line of furniture is solid wood and will last a lifetime and their couches are very good value for money.

I’ve had a pine IKEA bed since 2001. I’ve had a Pax wardrobe in every house so far and they’re amazing. You have to know what to get to last a long time.

They don't want to admit it, but it's quite convenient for IKEA when everyone buys new furniture every five years

Don't forget to blame people who want to change their furniture irrespective of the condition.

@@thetaomega7816 it's cheaper to buy good quality second hand furniture that will last you for years than it is to buy new IKEA furniture every few years

@@thetaomega7816 who is saying something from a position of money? I hope you don't think that's me cause you couldn't be further from the truth... I am more likely to make my own furniture than to buy it...

@@rext8949 true, but keep in mind that instead of throwing it out, people will pick it off the street for themselves...

It’s worse then Walmart.

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