The way I interpret this MV is: The whole story is a reminiscient of their past MVs (LS, Goodbye Road, I'm Okay) with bits of easter eggs per scene. It's like they're being nostalgic about their past, they will NOT forget it but they have to move on. The lyrics is telling us that no matter what, the past they had with BI will always be with them but they have to let him go. They were riding on the bus and burned it in the end. Remember when they first debuted? They entered the stage riding a bus. For me it feels like they're putting an end to that era of iKON. They're burning it with heavy hearts but like I've said, they need to move on. So that's why they turned their backs and walked away. The passé/pourquoi for me signifies that they're still aware of the past, even calling them and reminding them but DK had to decline answering so they could focus on what's infront of them. Also, Bobby threw the ring, I remember during their countdown he said that his scene was significant. It could prolly be him throwing their "friendship" ring and leaving it behind... The choreo itself says about how they matured, they became men (as Song said) and is showing us that things really changed. But they're still iKON no matter what. The gestures are so elegantly done only iKON can pull off. If you watch ReacttotheK's reaction, they talked about the musicality of this song and you will be blown away on how everything (even the notes, chord and arrangement!!!) is RELATIVE!! Please watch it if you haven't! They talked about how well-done it is, how smooth the arrangement was and the meaning behind each chords. iKON came back hard! They deserve an award for this. Damn. Let's keep the views up guys! Let's vote for them. Let's show others that iKON is it's own genre and that's on periodt! (sorry for the long post ✌🏻)
They really worked hard for this. JAY said that he spent 3 days crying in the studio during recording. And DK's last part was also recorded after crying a lot. They really showed their mature self in this CB. And Bobby's part showed how he came back after all his solo activities. Pls support them.
You saw Nani on M&M while Han Bin left for an immediate escape from those responsibilities? He almost cried and felt sorry towards him everytime Han Bin felt depression. That is why he cried a lot during the recording because the lines are fit to what he is feeling. A good sonh for a closure between iKON and Han Bin. I think Han Bin listens to this song everyday. He entrusted Jay for everything when he is not around.
they said they actually cried during the recordings because it was hard to deliver the emotions and because recording the last part made them super emotional. 😭😭😭😭
The way I interpret this MV is: The whole story is a reminiscient of their past MVs (LS, Goodbye Road, I'm Okay) with bits of easter eggs per scene. It's like they're being nostalgic about their past, they will NOT forget it but they have to move on. The lyrics is telling us that no matter what, the past they had with BI will always be with them but they have to let him go. They were riding on the bus and burned it in the end. Remember when they first debuted? They entered the stage riding a bus. For me it feels like they're putting an end to that era of iKON. They're burning it with heavy hearts but like I've said, they need to move on. So that's why they turned their backs and walked away. The passé/pourquoi for me signifies that they're still aware of the past, even calling them and reminding them but DK had to decline answering so they could focus on what's infront of them. Also, Bobby threw the ring, I remember during their countdown he said that his scene was significant. It could prolly be him throwing their "friendship" ring and leaving it behind... The choreo itself says about how they matured, they became men (as Song said) and is showing us that things really changed. But they're still iKON no matter what. The gestures are so elegantly done only iKON can pull off. If you watch ReacttotheK's reaction, they talked about the musicality of this song and you will be blown away on how everything (even the notes, chord and arrangement!!!) is RELATIVE!! Please watch it if you haven't! They talked about how well-done it is, how smooth the arrangement was and the meaning behind each chords. iKON came back hard! They deserve an award for this. Damn. Let's keep the views up guys! Let's vote for them. Let's show others that iKON is it's own genre and that's on periodt! (sorry for the long post ✌🏻)
The phone. Passe in French is "past". Notice that was an "incoming call" from the past(passe). And I think the ending shot of DK with the phone. He rejected the call because the past is the past. This is unfortunately ikon saying "We'll continue on without you but you won't be forgotten".
@@lilithofnod Then you must be correcting everybody that's saying it. Phew.... thanks for the correction and Goodluck on your journey. There's A LOT of people saying it.
@@lilithofnod even though it may not mean "past" on its own, that's likely what they intended the word to translate as however. Not only Google translates passé to past, papago does as well and searching for the meaning, other websites also give it the simple translation of past. I'm not trying to say you're wrong on what passé means, I just think that's what they intended it to mean in the video..though considering they likely may be sending more than one message with this song, they could be using it for both simply "past" as well as something like "past ones prime."
Some lyrics say "you are a flower that I couldn't protect" and remember that flower was the only song in their past album that b.i wasn't involved and everyone thinks that song was made by DK for B.I, but like it was everywhere so idk if they know that but if they do and that is a connection.....
B.I always said iKON should be like flowing water so they won't break easily. That's what the water meant for me. In Flower, the lyrics referenced the wind, which B.I mentioned he wanted to be reborn as. I am not ready to stop linking iKON's new songs with B.I yet. Please forgive my OT7 heart.
Totes think it’s related to B.I. I saw a post on a fan site - check the bus again “725” - 7 members, 2 rappers & 5 vocalists. Truly feels like a farewell to the past and hopefully the start to a new chapter for them, not forgetting B.I of course.
There are some parts that remember the era of the love scenario, there are also those that remember the era of killing me which is part of the chorus, then the era of goodbye road image where chanu is at the beginning and at the end and the vibra is also in my opinion quite similar, keep reminiscing about the era I'm ok when the burn is burnt part, continue to fit the yoyo with the flowers, it was the dive era. At this whywhywhy, it's really like making a flashback, everything is like blending together here😭
@@_asteria12 the ring was given during their trio to bali? or somewhere. I forgot the title I only remember "Summertime in" 😂 I forgot the place. Sorry
I am not even a fan just a casual listener and I keep playing their songs I love their vocals and bobby's tone when he rap, he's the first person who caught my attention
OMG... the BUS 🚌. That was the main prop when they held their 1st concert. They always say how memorable that moment was...hearing iKONICS screaming as they entered the stage on the bus as iKON. Now that bus has gone and 🔥. Start of new era.
Loved your reaction. I think this mv could mean several things all at once. But the parallels with past mvs and recent B.I. activities can't be coincidence. The flower wall, for instance, is a direct correlation with the birthday wall art that iKONICS did for B.I. on his birthday. The phone at the bus station very similar to the one in Love Scenario. The burning bus itself reminiscent of their promotions before debut where they were photographed in front of a similar bus. The bus being on fire when their last mv with B.I started with him getting out of a burning car, I'm OK. Even the number on the bus, 7 (OT7) 2 (rap line) and 5 ( vocal line). Add in them dancing on the roof, Goodbye Road, and Bobby doing almost the exact hand motions he did in Love Scenario. Is the water figure actually supposed to be B.I.??!? Plus Flower being their first song about B.I., and their repeated use of Flower in these lyrics lends itself to all of us iKONICS feeling it has to be about him...but then again, it could just be a break-up song which they excel in making. As for Bobby not being in the choreo, that filming was on Day 2 and he was there. I think it was more along the lines of a metaphor for him stepping out of the group for his solo, but also we saw that he was down for awhile about B.I. and was a little separate from them. It seemed deliberate that he steps in, sings and then stands in front of the sign in French that has Why forwards and then backwards twice and then he drops a ring at the phone from Love Scenario...leaving the past and then he's on the bus with them, dancing with them fully back with the group. Passe means outmoded, something no longer relevant. Again seeming to imply that the past is over, they still love him but now they as iKON are back. And can we talk about Chanwoo and SONG getting so many times to shine!!! Equal distribution of lines, Finally!! Again, these are my opinions, not facts. It's interesting though that so many of us see B.I. in this mv and song. Maybe that's why it is just a song. Maybe their album will be all about them now. Whatever it is so so HAPPY to have iKON BACK!!! ❤️🍀
@@itsandyandjas i mean...i mean you guys know and you understand them the way fans feel as well huhu sorry i just feel so emotional with this song. This song ended abruptly too after getting us all emotional. Felt like this single is saying to us 'this is the start of a new era for us; we are finally accepting BI won't be with us anymore and finally moving forward so look forward to our upcoming album as six members.' 😭
YESSS. It's sad they aren't together anymore but iKON as 6 and Hanbin as a soloist are both moving forward! Also, to the emotional stans, it isnt like they are apart forever and dont have each others' contact numbers. sskkssk Best believe they still talk. They are brothers before they were iKON. Keep supporting them for their music and talents.
Bobby was actually there but in that part of the mv he had to join them later on. To add to that he was watching his members while filming that scene he realised "wow ikon is really cool" (non-virbatim) 😊.
you guyssssss!!!!! i love love so many things about this reaction!! 1. you guys know their names! (it irks me how some reactors just reacts without actually learning basic stuff) in my eyes, you guys ace this! (even with other groups, shows respect which is awesome) 2. i love love how every members is highlighted in your reactions! (again, respect!) 3. you guys vocalize what most fans thinks (about how this is about B.I and brotherhood, spot on!) not gonna talk too much on this, it still hurts :( 4. i love how not only u guys interprets the lyrics, you guy give a more in depth expression to the meaning ( sometimes,though the songs nowadays have translations in the mvs, for non Koreans some lyrics just don't connect and you guys made it easy to understand) lol sorry for the thesis writing but just wanna appreciate you guys, thank you and keep it up!
Really love your interpretation about the song linking it to B.I. Im really sad seing IKON with out B.I. But just like you said B.I. really doing well.... I'll just be here for B.I and IKON forever🥰🥰🥰🥰
While rapping, 'why that when I lost everything. I realized how precious you are.' So, like it's their promise to always together forever is the one that they can't protect.
It actually seems gold to me, especially on June part, there is a closeup scene of bobby touching the ring. It looks like a faint gold, and on the time that he throws it the color change probably because of the lighting.
When Bobby came in I thought he will do some rough rap but then he just sing and rap in soothed voice makes me go 😭. Love the reaction... We pretty sure this song and MV meant for BI. There's many hidden message here and there. Like on the bus scene, there's one empty seat between them on the bus, in the end the bus is burnt and finally they left in behind.
I know because iKon are the most talented group. They talented boys and DK is really good and Jay, June. They are back baby because I love YG so much. I started watching Kpop since BigBang. I stand YG stand and Treasure!!!
This is a sad song T_T The boys deserve our love and support; we see 6 in our eyes but feel 7 in our heart!! Thanks for your reaction to this MV, I enjoyed it!
what i like about this song is, if you notice the lyrics is fully in korean not even a single english word... but i am as a foreigner can feel their emotions and understand their feeling, the feeling they are trying to deliver:((( first time i listen to this song even without subtittle, i cried because their pain, longing, regret and sadness truly delivered well through the song:""""
"from the beginning until now" - during their debut concert they opened the show coming on a bus and now The bus in flames represents the end of that journey and now all the rest of the group can do is move on. Last lines of the song reflects how they feel...they've always loved him and that love will not end.
They are amazing! And I cant wait for their Kingdom Performance 💙 Conspiration Theory: IKONIC said that this song is talking about BI and they even keep an empty seat for him during the bus scene.
Guys, your comments are so on point 😭🧡👏 Thank you for reacting to the comeback song of our favorite boy group!! It means a lot to us how you guys interpret it for us so we could also feel more of the overflowing emotions that iKON is trying to express 😭 and they never fail to get through us since Climax 😭🧡 My heart~
Passé means past. So in phone scenes means the past is calling them. Pourqoui means why. And pourquoi pas means why now. For the dance part when 5 members surrounded jay it reminded me of Love Scenario. The old school phone also in LS when B.I passing by. When the bus got burned, the lyric “if I knew it was our last, I would have...” this part is reminded me of B.I part in I’m OK (burning car), it was their last MV together as 7 members. 😭😭😭😭
The way I interpret this MV is: The whole story is a reminiscient of their past MVs (LS, Goodbye Road, I'm Okay) with bits of easter eggs per scene. It's like they're being nostalgic about their past, they will NOT forget it but they have to move on. The lyrics is telling us that no matter what, the past they had with BI will always be with them but they have to let him go. They were riding on the bus and burned it in the end. Remember when they first debuted? They entered the stage riding a bus. For me it feels like they're putting an end to that era of iKON. They're burning it with heavy hearts but like I've said, they need to move on. So that's why they turned their backs and walked away. The passé/pourquoi for me signifies that they're still aware of the past, even calling them and reminding them but DK had to decline answering so they could focus on what's infront of them. Also, Bobby threw the ring, I remember during their countdown he said that his scene was significant. It could prolly be him throwing their "friendship" ring and leaving it behind... The choreo itself says about how they matured, they became men (as Song said) and is showing us that things really changed. But they're still iKON no matter what. The gestures are so elegantly done only iKON can pull off. If you watch ReacttotheK's reaction, they talked about the musicality of this song and you will be blown away on how everything (even the notes, chord and arrangement!!!) is RELATIVE!! Please watch it if you haven't! They talked about how well-done it is, how smooth the arrangement was and the meaning behind each chords. iKON came back hard! They deserve an award for this. Damn. Let's keep the views up guys! Let's vote for them. Let's show others that iKON is it's own genre and that's on periodt! (sorry for the long post ✌🏻)
iKON can pull off any concet and genre of music. PLUS their way of writing, singing and delivering the message of the song are what make them exceptional, sophisticated and versatile group.
What I love with YG's choice in choreo is that they never try to do EVERYTHING. They choose choreo that has the most impact with the least strain on their idols. That way, they can focus on engaging with the audience AND giving that attitude.. So, no... this isn't breakneck choreo or crazy transitions... but its very intentional and beautiful. The more I watch it, the more I enjoy it.
When Bobby was standing in front of the board, the Spanish sentence which is Pourquoi on comprend toujors après avoir tout perdu que c'etait si prècieux, it means “Why we always understand after losing everything that it was so precious.”
For 3 years I became ikonic, i really supported them, my bias in ikon is hanbin and when he came out i was very sad, but i couldn't stop supporting ikon even without hanbin, ikon were my favorite idols after Bigbang and before Treasure, this song made me cry yesterday :’)
Voooocals! Oh those vocals! Only IKON can bring this level of vocals! So beautiful! I looked up passé’ and it means faded or worn. It says that passe’ compose’ is the most important past tense in French. It corresponds to the English simple past or sometimes the present perfect. Which in relation to BI sounds like IKON’s present can be perfection! Maybe BI will be able to return to finalize this perfection! Another French word seen was pourquoi which means why. A pourquoi story also known as an origin story. Like how a hero came to have their special characteristics. Could relate to BI as their hero during their origin as a group. Loved your reaction!
he song was beautifully written, the MV was aesthetically pleasing and their voicals OMG it really stood out. iKON made another masterpiece with this song! See how versatile our boys can be? You just got a new subscriber! Meeee 🥰
Once mine now a stranger ! And choreo compliments those lines. I cannot stop crying. They gave a really heartfelt song for fans, they are truly underrated
So many detectives in the comment section, the more i read, the more it made sense. It even got a ninja materializing out of nowhere and started cutting onions somewhere near me. Stan iKON, stan talent. Thanks andy and jas, your reactions fiyaaah 😘
I had the same thought too its about b.i since they release the teaser. They will walk separate coz they know b.i is doin well and they dont want to burdened him anm in music industrt. IMO Good luck b.i and iKON i will always supporting both of u 🥰
Every props on their MV's are representing HOPE. When June says they ride a bus lookinh for that hope and ended broken because it was crashed. Bobby says the sky is HOPE, that is why he keeps looking at it but can't reach it. And that HOPE is somewhat the fact of B.I returning to them. Well unfortunately, he didn't. Sad but true. :( The reason why they've been hurt and accepted the fact that he won't be in the group anymore.
OMG!! THIS SONG IS BEAUTIFUL! This reaction was amazing! This was also the FIRST time listening to iKON’s music. I’m almost a year into KPOP... there’s SOOOOO much to catch up on!!
THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH FOR THIS!YOUR REACTION MADE ME TEAR UP AGAIN! I’m extremely happy that iKON is back because they really deserve this comeback.So proud of my underrated super talented boys and I’m missing BI sooo bad.😔
I think every ikonic and everyone who knows what happened in the past connects everything about B.I. (including me). The MV has a lot of metaphor that anyone can make interpretation. For me, this is Ikon talking all their feelings with the departure of B.I. and the whole hiatus dealing with it. As human, it is normal to feel the pain. But this shows the mature side that they have to acknowledge these emotions to be able to address and deal it properly so they can completely move on. It is painful to continue without hanbin.But t in that last scene, they have accepted it that is why they burned the bus - which I think the journey with B.I. they have to go to another bus with just the 6 of them and continue the new journey as Ikon. And we, who loves them must do the same. Join their journey, support and love them while wishing for hanbin to do well on his own.
once again, love your interpretation... i love ikon like my sons... been with them since who is next, mix n match, hero of remix.. and now kingdom... seen their growth... just love them period!
Well the guy who like nature so they use water,fire and mountain , the guy who like spanish word and who like flower well its hanbin... That bus represent their journey together their hardship and struggle...And that the same bus they use in whywhywhy is the same bus they use to iKON debut concert intro clip videos...
This is one of the best reaction I've ever seen. They are not just reacting to it, they are also explaining and giving their thoughts about the song and this is what makes so good for international fans or listeners. Keep it up!