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Illgraben 04. 06. 2020, Lave torrentielle / Murgang / Debris flow 

Pierre-Emmanuel Zufferey
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@widicamdotnet
@widicamdotnet 3 года назад
I'm impressed that the concrete walls hold up that well - several years by the look of it - I wouldn't have thought they'd survive getting blasted with that much force more than once before crumbling and ending up in the Rhône themselves...
@xistsixt
@xistsixt 4 года назад
For the English speaking people some information about the place: The usually small and inconspicuous Illbach quickly swells during intense precipitation due to showers, thunderstorms or the combination of meltwater and rain and carries a lot of debris due to the continuous intensive weathering of the rock material. These debris flows occur several times a year and carry the material down into the Rhone. When it rains, this leads to the clouding of the Rhone up to its mouth in Lake Geneva. The stream has thus cut 1,500 metres into the rock and, together with the material, piled up a huge cone of debris in the Rhone valley. As a result, it was pressed over a length of 5 kilometres to the opposite foot of the mountain. The cone of rubble is heaped up to 200 metres above the valley floor. The eastern part of the debris cone is farmed with meadows and fields, while the western part supports the upper part of the Pfynwald forest. The lower part, on the other hand, is still characterised by the regular debris flows, some of whose material here is washed away by the Rhone as far as Sierre. Due to the strong erosion there is no permanent vegetation in the Illgraben [1]. Protective measures Edit Torrent control Edit After devastating mudflow events in 1961, a comprehensive protection concept was developed and implemented for the village of Susten. This consists of a dam as the main barrier, which is intended to stop the largest masses of debris, and 29 other smaller barriers.
@lightning9279
@lightning9279 3 года назад
Thank you. You answered my questions. Always wondered where all the flow ends up and what it looks like. Appreciate your explanation.
@wehvgirlpwr
@wehvgirlpwr 3 года назад
Thanks!
@lohphat
@lohphat 3 года назад
Which wiki page is that from? I only found the shorter, English page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illhorn
@xistsixt
@xistsixt 3 года назад
@@lohphat found it somewhere else. I grew up in the area, so I collected a lot of information about.
@karengiorella2690
@karengiorella2690 Год назад
Thanks.
@johnpartridge7623
@johnpartridge7623 Год назад
Boulders weighing more than a Small Truck being moved by the force of Water is just incredible & the noise. Thanks for sharing 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@wayoutwest4944
@wayoutwest4944 4 года назад
Find these videos to be mesmerizing. I enjoy watching them. Am impressed with the engineering in keeping the flows in the channels.
@noraleestone2859
@noraleestone2859 4 года назад
@12:50 "I'm the King of The Hill!" @13:53 "Oh shucks. Maybe not." LOL
@davepelfrey3958
@davepelfrey3958 4 года назад
And just like that, its done. So powerful it's scary.
@pirobot668beta
@pirobot668beta 3 года назад
If I ever need a concrete contractor for a major job, I'm gonna hire the folks that made this dam. Whatever you call it, that thing is tough!
@kensanity178
@kensanity178 Год назад
When you see dozens of 2 to 5 ton rocks flowing at that speed, it is literally mind blowing.
@ladydi4runner
@ladydi4runner 4 года назад
Wow. Mesmerizing! Watching the ebb and flow. Nature at its power. Thanks much for sharing! 👏🏻👍😁
@augustinarix1201
@augustinarix1201 4 года назад
J'adore tes vidéos de coulé de boue ce genre de phénomène et fascinant
@invisibleforest4552
@invisibleforest4552 3 года назад
Where do all the rocks and the dirt originate? Can we see that? Where does it all end up? Can we see that? It’s fascinating! Thank you!
@lohphat
@lohphat 3 года назад
Here's the source of the debris: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qtxIyeb9_K8.html
@Swindy1794
@Swindy1794 3 года назад
That is simply amazing that water can move huge boulders the size of a truck like a tinker toy. WOW!
@meanerkat4339
@meanerkat4339 Год назад
That has to be the fastest eroding mountain in the world. Sure is cool to watch.
@KatieReadsKoziesAndMore
@KatieReadsKoziesAndMore 4 года назад
This video is amazing and terrifying. Just a reminder for anyone tempted to drive through moving water, it only takes two inches of flowing water to make you lose control of your vehicle. Moving water is one of the most powerful forces on this planet. Respect it and stay safe. Oh, and WEAR A MASK.
@lohphat
@lohphat 4 года назад
That's not just water. Water doesn't move 4 ton boulders like that. That's more the consistency of wet cement from a mixer. But heavier. If you were to fall in that, your body would be pulverized by the rocks and gravel suspended in the mud.
@grantcook5376
@grantcook5376 4 года назад
Katie S Two inches ? Are you sure.
@PhilJonesIII
@PhilJonesIII 4 года назад
@@grantcook5376 Sometimes less, depending on your speed. The tyres tend to draw water under them and break contact with the road. Alway drive slowly to dead slow through water.
@mikenelson3338
@mikenelson3338 3 года назад
Ok mom 😂
@andrewsercer9538
@andrewsercer9538 Год назад
Wear a mask ......... LOLOLOLOLOL
@WetterAuge
@WetterAuge 4 года назад
Super Videos vom Illgraben 👍 Faszinierend zuzuschauen wie die Wellen kommen. Like & Abo :-)
@karengiorella2690
@karengiorella2690 Год назад
It almost looks like the boulders are bobbing in the mudflow. Hmmm.? Awesome video.
@saratola
@saratola 3 года назад
This was brutal! I love it!
@pedrovision6987
@pedrovision6987 2 года назад
Where do the big rocks go??? Incredible raw power...water, rocks and an incline...wow...
@DavidFraser007
@DavidFraser007 2 года назад
Big rocks and boulders going for a swim, fascinating.
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT 4 года назад
Impressive stream of boulders carrying some water!
@Neilhuny
@Neilhuny 3 года назад
Incredible power! Truly amazing
@noranavas6146
@noranavas6146 3 года назад
Me quedo sin palabras viendo estos vídeos.
@skeets6060
@skeets6060 4 года назад
That is a hell of a lot of mud and rocks !!
@elikinder1506
@elikinder1506 4 года назад
Now that’s so mud flowing down. Wow!
@ReiseFreund
@ReiseFreund 4 года назад
Wow, amazing. I love the videos. Its fantastic how strong the nature is.
@bennyo483
@bennyo483 4 года назад
Another great vid from you. Thank you very much. Is it possible to see in future vids from the ending of the Illgraben in the Rhone? It must bei impressive to see the big waves flush into the Rhone
@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470
@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470 4 года назад
@@bennyo483 I have it Illgraben 08.08.2018, Illgraben 26.07.2019, Illgraben 11.08.2019.
@lynwilliams4201
@lynwilliams4201 2 года назад
Are the spillways built to slow the speed of the water ? Probably a DUH question, but some engineer came up with the idea! Just amazing seeing the huge bolders being swept down!
@georgeberrill4834
@georgeberrill4834 3 года назад
It amazes me as to where it's all coming from, there can't be that much of a mountain left after all that debris
@TamppoSilakka
@TamppoSilakka 4 года назад
Great video!!!!
@sanctus100
@sanctus100 2 года назад
Unbelievable, with what force these tons of heavy stones are swept away... And all that debris flows in the Rhone river?
@elikinder1506
@elikinder1506 4 года назад
Wow, the big rocks coming down are hugh
@Hunpecked
@Hunpecked 4 года назад
"Too thick to drink, too thin to plow."
@sharonolsen6579
@sharonolsen6579 4 года назад
best comment !! LOL .. : ]
@PhilJonesIII
@PhilJonesIII 4 года назад
And don't try washing your car with it.
@robinburk8316
@robinburk8316 4 года назад
I love these videos! Keep posting! :-)
@pastoraselmacastro6678
@pastoraselmacastro6678 3 года назад
Um show da natureza da Deus! É pedra que não acaba kkk
@StreuB1
@StreuB1 4 года назад
Got to be a million or more tons of material. Unreal.
@pvoshefski
@pvoshefski 3 года назад
Incredible.!
@TinaThevarge
@TinaThevarge 4 года назад
I don’t really, but I kind of wish there were something in frame to show the scale of this. I mean I know it’s big. But how much bigger than a car 🚙. This just amazes me.
@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470
@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470 4 года назад
Usually, big rocks are 4 m long, very big 5 m and I saw one which is 6 m that I called Mecalo, which arrived on 22.07.2016. At minute 13:12 it must be 4,5 m long. On my other video seen from another point of view of this debris flow, I saw a rock that I called "Little Boy" which is 5,5 m long.
@TinaThevarge
@TinaThevarge 4 года назад
Pierre-Emmanuel Zufferey amazing 😳 that’s huge. And they just come tumbling down. Thank you for capturing this event.
@barr2644
@barr2644 2 года назад
@@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470 Out of curiosity, the "smoke" coming up from the bottom of the falls is from breaking rocks? Friction? Is it steam? Thanks for this mesmerizing content.
@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470
@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470 2 года назад
@@barr2644 Breaking rocks. But must be some tempertaure also, but not to build steam. I suppose in huge event like in Ronti valley this spring, when very high temperature, the smoke must be black, dust from breaked rocks breaked ice and steam.Some happend in Bondasca, witnesses saw a black dust coming very fast, and a huge noise followed..
@jameshughes9087
@jameshughes9087 4 года назад
Any questions about the power of water?
@Don.Challenger
@Don.Challenger 3 года назад
Pierre-Emmanuel, what government group is responsible for maintaining these debris flow paths? what maintenance is routinely done on them?, do they occasionally use heavy equipment to clear the routes out and use the dredged material for road building or construction fill?
@stujd1539
@stujd1539 4 года назад
Nature moves in an hour and a half what a fleet of loaders and haul trucks would take weeks to move. Close to half a million tonnes I reckon.
@johnm.evangelis693
@johnm.evangelis693 4 года назад
Wow that was a boulder & mud flow. Where do all the stones, large rocks end up? Great video!!!
@willumwillumstad7724
@willumwillumstad7724 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MPVndzSZGqA.html
@midbc1midbc199
@midbc1midbc199 Год назад
That would be the best place to put a tent and do a little camping
@lynfl9814
@lynfl9814 4 года назад
Where is this? What creates this major flooding? Rain? Snow melt? It looks like that concrete structure has a large crack. I wonder if it will fail.
@Ajaxaxxess
@Ajaxaxxess 4 года назад
Thats why i cant drink coors light anymore. Next morning aint no dam holding the "debris" back.
@walterscharff8003
@walterscharff8003 4 года назад
lol
@swarfmaster
@swarfmaster 4 года назад
Appears the larger ones almost float.
@lohphat
@lohphat 3 года назад
I'm very curious about the temperature of the thick, silty mud. It is warmer due to the extra particle friction?
@theelephantintheroom8016
@theelephantintheroom8016 3 года назад
Big rocks can float, I guess that is an indicator of how thick the mud is
@LeifurHakonarson
@LeifurHakonarson 4 года назад
That Zerkleinerung!
@TalRohan
@TalRohan 19 дней назад
This would be an amazing place to gold pan...along that divide between clay and gravel....but honestly who would risk it
@sylviaporchet9071
@sylviaporchet9071 Год назад
Bonjour Moi j'ètais à l'iillgraben 2fois en ete, mais pas de descente de laves torrentielles, Par contre j'ai vu le parcours et tout les materiaux , C'est magnifique. Comme j'habite vers Yverdon les Bains ( un peu loin) À quelle moment je pourrais y retourner pour voir 1 lave torrentielle? J'aimerais vraiment bcp, Merci pour les vidèos magnifiques 🙂
@mikeseguin6443
@mikeseguin6443 4 года назад
Looks like spring break up and big chunks of ice
@horsey4u21
@horsey4u21 4 года назад
When the torrent stops would be a good time to look for natural sluicing ridges and crevices...
@joriskylie6857
@joriskylie6857 4 года назад
That is a pretty bad ass damn to take that abuse. I was hoping it would break and disgorge itself like yesterday's Taco Bell.
@MikeAnderson-oh9po
@MikeAnderson-oh9po 2 года назад
It’s amazing how buoyant these huge boulders appear to be. Can anyone explain?
@ohforthelove74
@ohforthelove74 Год назад
What they are suspended in is a slurry very much like liquid concrete. The pulverized rock and mud increase the power of the flowing water by orders of magnitude to the point where it can toss around boulders weighing dozens of tons. The power in a flow like this is kind of terrifying.
@LTHanlon
@LTHanlon 4 года назад
Fascinating video. Are those chunks of rock or just dirt clods?
@PhilJonesIII
@PhilJonesIII 4 года назад
They are rocks. Those channels slope rather more than they appear in the video. The photographer (camera at least) was in some danger at that point.
@rogerp53
@rogerp53 Год назад
I would have thought that the Weir / Dams are dug out after each event
@dougclark9921
@dougclark9921 3 года назад
Where do the larger rocks go? They fall over the edge and are never seen again. If there is a hole, it must be huge because there were a lot of rocks and a lot of massive rocks.
@LifeforArt
@LifeforArt 3 года назад
You just have to watch closely. In the mud that flows on, the big rocks are also inside. Sometimes something just lingers at the end of the flood. But ultimately everything ends up in the Rhône river.
@RBCharger
@RBCharger 4 года назад
I don't understand why there was not a huge pile of boulders at the base of the concrete waterfall at the end of the video. The boulders were falling straight down so at that point so there was no momentum or water behind them to keep pushing them forward. Was that text on the screen at 9:35 saying the boulders were being crushed?
@englishruraldoggynerd
@englishruraldoggynerd 4 года назад
The text was saying condensation and temperature change from the colder water forming clouds in the warmer channel air I think.
@PhilJonesIII
@PhilJonesIII 4 года назад
@@englishruraldoggynerd It's powdered rock caused by concussion. If you get real close after the flow then the bubbles that rise out of the mud are full of dry powder. It's a bizzare thing to see. The dams are there to do exactly as you described, reduce the energy in the flow. The channel in the foreground .
@englishruraldoggynerd
@englishruraldoggynerd 4 года назад
Philip Jones So, do you mean the bubbles were formed by cavitation bubbles? I thought they only formed inside tubes under pressure, but.... of course, the water would form a solid I guess as it falls in the weird way hydrodynamics work. Which is way beyond my understanding of physics. Thank you for answering!
@Clearanceman2
@Clearanceman2 3 года назад
Where do all the rocks and mud come from? It seems like this structure was made to channel the rocks and mud, what happened to cause so much erosion? Thanks!
@lohphat
@lohphat 3 года назад
Here's the source: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qtxIyeb9_K8.html
@cosmosabinodossantos3977
@cosmosabinodossantos3977 3 года назад
Maravilhoso
@lynwilliams4201
@lynwilliams4201 2 года назад
What makes the flow stop and start?
@sulev111
@sulev111 4 года назад
and that's how cement is made
@carolynnaumann2306
@carolynnaumann2306 3 года назад
Makes me think of a giant slucebox for dredging gold !
@daleolson3506
@daleolson3506 4 года назад
I swam up one of these once to win a bet. Hard on the fingers and fore head. True story
@kevg3320
@kevg3320 4 года назад
You only beat me 'cos you had bigger flippers! :/
@dafrasier1
@dafrasier1 4 года назад
where do all the big rocks Stop? which lake, which Big River?
@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470
@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470 4 года назад
It goes in the Rhône, some big rocks stop in the channel, but at the end, after other debris flow, it ends in the Rhône. Sometimes the hole debris flow stops in the channel. Look at my video, Illgraben, le chaos granitique éphémère,...
@dafrasier1
@dafrasier1 4 года назад
@@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470 Thank you. (your "hills are too steep." hills are alive and getting smaller.)
@claudealain85
@claudealain85 4 года назад
Des torrents de boue... C'est adéquat, pertinent. Très en phase... En étant attentif, on y reconnaîtra peut-être quelques élus municipaux.
@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470
@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470 4 года назад
ou mon chef…..
@davebrock6618
@davebrock6618 4 года назад
where is this coming from and where is it going to?
@HotelPapa100
@HotelPapa100 4 года назад
Down from the Illhorn, a triassic formation (limestone, and moraine debris of the ice age). Going into the delta of the Pfynwald, and taken away by the Rhône.
@eroildo.3374
@eroildo.3374 2 года назад
ARASTRA. DEMACIADAS. ROCAS. ESO DA MIEDO.ES 😲 IMPRESIONANTE.
@BaronvonBavert
@BaronvonBavert 4 года назад
wow, die Steine können schwimmen ;) ...... bei Schutzmauer muß mal reparieren und dazu ne Verstärkung einbauen .....
@videosdeecologia7468
@videosdeecologia7468 3 года назад
Don't mess with nature LOL
@mig7287
@mig7287 4 года назад
Thank You!
@wazeysusaventuras
@wazeysusaventuras Год назад
Que río más raro para el agua y sigue así que raro y peligroso
@dasrostkehlchen6942
@dasrostkehlchen6942 3 года назад
3.03 Mastodon?
@GavCritchley
@GavCritchley 3 года назад
What happened at 9.39? Was that steam?
@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470
@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470 3 года назад
These are the stones and the blocks which are crushed the ones against the others. Happens when the mud has the some or more density of the stone.
@skatpak2967
@skatpak2967 3 года назад
WHERE DID ALL THOSE BIG ROCKS GO..INTO NO WHERE VILLE?? THEY DIDNT COME DOWN THE WASH..THEY AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS DAM?? UMM WOW
@mlbs4803
@mlbs4803 4 года назад
Water always wins!
@fransdegroot9778
@fransdegroot9778 4 года назад
Looks like a concret river.
@beebop9808
@beebop9808 4 года назад
Grinding it all down and sending it back to the recycling center............
@kelaarin
@kelaarin 4 года назад
Why the pulses? Upstream damming?
@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470
@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470 4 года назад
Here the answer of Woody615 The bottom layer of the water/debris has more friction between it and the ground, thus it slows down. The upper layers of water don't have as much friction so it moves faster than the natural flow rate. The water behind it can't keep up, so a gap develops and a new "wave" forms from the next bit of water, thus if forms a wave cycle with the friction. My answer is that this come from the breathing of the earth….let the earth breathe. Other say that it is the difference between volume arriving and volume going down...the video Illgraben 04.06.20 Lave torrentielle/Murgang/Pont Bouthanais/Bhutanbrücke is the some event but from a point of view 2 km above, there the waves are less evident.
@alaing5361
@alaing5361 3 года назад
some images was modified...
@HellYeahImIrish
@HellYeahImIrish 4 года назад
natural concrete
@theravedaddy
@theravedaddy 3 года назад
I was watching these and other flash floods all day sunday and today i got caught in a big flash flood on a mountain in chiang rai.....that google spyware is getting too damn cocky.
@grifftech
@grifftech 3 года назад
What is concassage zerkleinerung pilipilipili
@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470
@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470 3 года назад
The stones and blocks are hold by the mud and are broken the one against the other. Of that result a white dust, and also a sulphuric smell if you would assit to it, apart from the cataclismic noise. It happens when the mud the some density has as the stone.
@MrRhall2k
@MrRhall2k 4 года назад
is that a goddam hehe uknp god dam
@davidglaum2538
@davidglaum2538 4 года назад
Something seams funny about the video the very big rocks seam to vanish after they fall over the dam they are not rolling on down stream.
@bigredc222
@bigredc222 4 года назад
I noticed that too, I thought it was ice the way it seemed to be floating, but when they didn't pop back up I realized they were rocks, and they were staying at the base of the damn. There must be rocks and silt piled up to the top of the damn on the upstream side, and that's why the rocks are able to be pushed over.
@PhilJonesIII
@PhilJonesIII 4 года назад
They are under the water from that point. The purpose of the dams is to reduce the energy of the flow. Otherwise, it would keep going faster and erode the banks very quickly. The rocks also crack and break up. That white cloud you see is stone dust. A seriously bad place to hang out.
@b41kub
@b41kub 4 года назад
What kind of rocks, they float in the stream??? Lava rocks???
@kelaarin
@kelaarin 4 года назад
Nope. Just sheer, raw hydro power.
@englishruraldoggynerd
@englishruraldoggynerd 4 года назад
Alpen Rock, so I’d imagine pretty darn hard rock. Old too.
@LifeforArt
@LifeforArt 3 года назад
Check this and try to translate. de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illgraben It's a kind of Limestone (dolomite)
@KSparks80
@KSparks80 4 года назад
Something just doesn't seem right with this vid. Or there's a rip in the Matrix at the base of this dam.
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