댓글들 웃기네.. 아니 냉정히 생각좀 해봐. 한국이라는 좁은 나라. 그것도 같은 걸그룹이라는 씬에 같이 있는데 어떻게 영향을 안받아? 영향을 안받는게 더 힘들지 않아?ㅋㅋ 이건 단순히 뉴진스를 카피했다는 말이 아니잖아...그냥 단순히 영향을 받을수밖에 없는거잖아. 아주 쉽게 생각해서 일반 대중이나 리스너들이 한국 걸그룹이나 아이돌 음악에 이지리스닝이나 개러지 비트가 들리면 "아! 이거 뉴진스 노래 같네" 라고 말할수밖에 없지. 이 말이 틀렸어? 이건 누굴 깎아 내리고 누굴 높이고의 문제가 아니야.
I listened to their album, and it just gave me a whimsical feeling-it gave me Sailor Moon. They will also have their own webtoon called Summer Moon. I think they will have a magic concept; I think the MV even had creepy undertones. It's like they are stuck where they are, and dreams are not always good either, so I think they can play with this concept. Belift, I think, is good when it comes to incorporating lore. They also have live performances. Though I love "Lucky Girl Syndrome," listening to it on the album elevates the performance even more. Yeah, they are doing good domestically and internationally. I find it satisfying because people said they would flop after the show.
The soft/vibey type of music is definitely the trend in Korea now thanks to New Jeans. And when I first heard the song I was definitely like, oh this is a copy and paste. But I feel like there’s also some LOONA influences as well. I do wish vocally they had some stronger voices but I can’t deny that from the stages I’ve seen, they perform really well and the chemistry between them is good. I’m looking forward to what they have planned and I’m really liking the whole dreamy magical girl/horror core vibe.
anyone else feel a little bit of loona influence for magnetic? lol i first heard it and vibe-wise it reminds me of like girl front or air force one (which is odd eye circle to be specific i guess)
The MV really gave me like a Red Velvet concept through a NewJeans lens. It was very whimsical and oddball but had this youthful NewJeans aesthetic overlay.
I thought that too but then I watched carefully and realised It’s weird asf and has some seriously inappropriate undertones . There’s videos on RU-vid explaining it
Probably envy that NJ is more successful than their favourite group looool. I find it weird too, like they don’t take them seriously even though they’ve revolutionised girl groups.
@@Annnase1367 HYBE는 큰 회사이고, 그 산하에도 많은 회사가 있습니다. newjeans가 ADOR 제품이라는 것은 알지만 ILLIT이 어디 제품인지는 잘 모르겠습니다. 하지만 그들이 데뷔하기 전에 먼저 그룹의 사운드에 대해 서로 논의할 수 있었을까요? NEWJEANS 너무나 인기가 많아서 ILLIT 경영진이 위험을 무릅썼고 지금은 엄청난 비난을 받고 있습니다. 그래도 여자분들은 안타깝습니다.
It's def Newjeans vibes. and idk how people are denying that. there's nothing wrong with it! illit ATE. but ppl quick to forget NJ literally changed the industry and sound with their debut. no one was doing this until they did it, and now it seems like everyone is going for it. and that's just how trends work
Exactly, people are so sensitive, there's nothing wrong with a group being influenced by another. But let's not deny it, newjeans shapped the current sound of a lot of kpop, they were also influenced by older sounds, it's completely normal
@@-ryonbyu you're a bunny but it seems like you've only heard Get Up era music? Attention, Hype Boy, Cookie, Hurt, OMG, Ditto?? y'all forget these songs exist ig
The genre of the song is plugnbb and BangPD actually had a hand in producing this song but to me the music sounds like something old loona would release or maybe just something produced by jaden jeong. They are Enhypens sister group and will have a WEBTOON and connected lore to them. Their concept is Japanese lolita/coquette inspired not y2k/ trendy like new jeans. I think the hair is similar though.
@@nicoleloss7987 I meant more so their concept styling. I seen the outfits for one of their stages and a couple members outfits are very lolita inspired.
You would think some of these people hate NWJS by the sheer horrific reaction that comes after simply bringing them into the conversation lol. There’s nothing wrong with them being on illit’s vision board, cause they definitely were lol. Ya’ll can reach and say they remind you of LOONA and Red Velvet but you get upset when NWJS is added to that list?! It’s giving projection lol. Just say you don’t like them.
I feel like people like to downplay whenever Newjeans’ influenced is mentioned everywhere even though they are label mates and sonically and visually this is very much their sphere lol. The pictures, the long dark hair, the choreo style. Labels want to emulate what’s successful so why wouldn’t they model them after their seniors ?
@@Koko3op They got diffrent concepts, choreo is diffrent, and having long dark hair aint from newjeans. They did the same thing to Riize,TWS,BoyNextDoor,TripleS calling them newjeans copies and now doing it to Illit
People in this comment section seems to forget this youthful weird dreamy concept (whit long hair) inspired by Red Velvet is already been done by New Jeans in different MV Like ASAP (dreamy weird youthful ) , OMG (weird youthful ) & Cool whit you ( dreamy ) even on ETA (youthful weird) Like they were literally just partying and dancing and at the of the MV they were throwing someone off a cliff So yes they were inspired By New Jeans
not having Jiwoo nor Chanelle is such a big missed opportunity for belift I feel especially after Youngseo leaving the group. All these newjeans copycat accusations probably wouldn't be made to this degree if they still had 6 members 😭 Im also hoping the group slowly lean into a more dreamy/cybercore soundscape they had in their Desperate performance, that was everything to me and its actually not too far off from what they have atm methinks
I did not think that was the case at all, when this song popped up on my Fyp i thought new jeans had a comback, this didnt have the members face and my dumbass was so happy about a new jeans come back
I like that ur so honest 😌😌😌we can hear the new jeans influence quite clearly and it's not necessarily a bad thing because if it worked so well for new jeans, companies are gonna try it out too .but some haters still deny it because they don't want to accept that new jeans are just that group
@@ilhan691 am sorry BLACKPINK ????? Y'all are just saying anything at this point 🥲🥲🥲 blackpink don't own the brands they endorse you know their just ambassadors
NJ didn't invent anything. Y2K sound is a trend just like 90s jeans. No one owns it. If NJ are so intelligent why are they not reinventing themselves and stay ahead of the competition?
I'm quite surprise with the comments here, cause when i heard the chorus of magnetic on tiktok, i thought it was a newjeans comeback, later i found out it as the debut of a new girl group
IKRR, seems like a lot of people sadly haven't listen to loona yet or doesn't aware that a lot of group already had this type of sound for example GWSN and Loona/OEC
For those of you that still think illit is not taking inspiration from newjeans just look at his reaction a few years ago to newjeans debut EP. He and many other will mention how different newjeans are with not only their music but having black hair, aesthetic kind of videos were not a thing back there. I think a lot of you are new to K-pop or just forgot old K-pop. But newjeans did bring anew wave of K-pop. He says in this video that illit has soft vocals like a lot of groups these days and they lack a strong vocalist and was also not impressed by their concept but back when newjeans debuted everyone was saying that debuting with such a unconventional song like attention was new and refreshing. Their soft vocals were praised instead of basic. This just says that newjeans did make a huge impact and many of you just have forgotten about it. NO K-POP GROUP MADE A DEBUT WITH SUCH A SOFT SONG BEFORE NEWJEANS.
This is very new jeans i agree ... styling, mv style, visuals, and vocal style... very new jeans ... lowkey living for it tho 😂❤ because new jeans is one of favs rn
oh, I agree so much! finally someone talking about these aspects, the only thing I think differently is cause I think Minju should be the main vocal cause her voice is the most powerful in this group right now, even though she was not my pick in r u next, and my bias is Yunah... I just think they needed a strong vocalist as you said, but I think if they gave Minju a high note or something, just anything strong vocally, I think the songs would be so much better! if you want to see more of minju singing, cause you said you don't remeber (and yeah, she wasn't really that charismatic, sometimes i didn't notice her there, maybe that's why you can't remember) I like the performance of Spark from r u next, and chanelle was there too... lol
what's with some of these comments 🙄 so now, people can't even say their opinion/observation without having some of the stans being defensive. like come on, it's not that deep 😭
I agree, they're a bit too similar to NewJeans for me, and I think people are being a bit willfully ignorant saying theyre nothing alike. I just dont get whats new and different and interesting about them yet when NewJeans already cover the same ground.
Whew, these comments are rampant w delulu chile!! Why is everyone acting like they don't get it!?? There's a clear lineage b/t their sound and that of NJ. No one's saying its a bad thing (not like baemon), we're just SAYING. That soft tone thing etc is very NJ coded. They sound good tho so at least there's that. 🤷🏿♂️
People in the comments that’s are try to find every single slightest difference between Illit and Newjeans hairstyles just because they don’t wanna admit that’s New jeans start this concept of “debuting whit long natural hair” is ridiculous they even add extensions to wonhee hair to make it longer, and bring the weird concept to differentiate them from New jeans putting Red Velvet in the conversation as inspiration for the illit for thair concept as if New Jeans doesn’t have MV like ASAP or COOL WHIT YOU is a ridiculous (don’t get me wrong Red Velvet are the queen of weird concept but let's be honest you want to tell me that the first thing you thought of after seeing the magnetic MV was that they were inspired by Red Velvet and not that they brought together all the concepts that New jeans had already done previously, like they are literally under the same company New Jeans concept it goes well and other company are using it just admit the reality
The title track could literally be in New Jeans last mini album and this isn't a offense to them it just sounds really similar to what the company is used to produce. It's also a sound that (I think) is never going to get old, it works well and it's "easy" to listen.
I feel kpop industry is forgetting strong vocalists/voices and live vocals in favor of idols that are great performers / dancers And I don’t really like it
Tbh yes NewJeans definitely started this trend of kinda minimal makeup, natural hair colour etc otherwise you'd have seen these ILLIT girlies in tacky hair colours with fcked up bangs and rejected Harajuku fashion disaster
There is no denying about new jeans impact on 5th gen idols in terms of visual, storytelling, and sound. Kinda like how 4th gen had their different feel from 3th gen. However i kinda feel like new jeans is more heavy on y2k and illit is more pluggnb and anime. But i agree that visually and performance wise new jeans impact can be seeing regardless of the different concept and lore.
Also as you mentioned new groups mvs are shot in a more lowkey and cinematic way that makes the watchers absorb in the story of the group. This is definitely Ditto impact.
Sonically, Loona/Odd Eye Circle inspired except that last track. You can see New Jeans in the visuals. Overall I like their music direction even though its nothing new. This debut was lukewarm. Still I will add the title and Midnight Fiction to my dreamy kpop playlist. I did not like the last song. I give it a 6.8/10. If the songs were longer and it featured more tracks i would give it a higher ranking.
I feel like they give more loona to me just based off this mini album so far. I see the newjeans inspiration tho they are a young 5 memeber gg under hybe the newjeans comparisons are inevitable. It’s also a cutesy school girlish vibe with the laid back vocals and very prominent beat production… the formula was a crazy successful outcome Why would they switch up the formula now? 😂
people keep denying Newjeans' impact on the industry when people in kpop start to focus more on aesthetics and cinematography after newjeans success and u call that out 🌝
To me they sound like if a really young BOA just debut. But i think it may just be two of their voices. It also feels like an AESPA and NewJeans mix. Not that the voices are similar but the direction of the songs and the sound. I mean makes since there under HYBE!
i mean yeah almost all 5th gen groups has been dubbed newjeans copy. especially RIIZE, TWS, BND, TripleS, and now ILLIT. All copies of newjeans but yeah ILLIT might be the group who can go head to head with newjeans in terms of popularity. ILLIT has been getting records here and there being the first or the fastest at each category.
@@stardust332 I was in that generation. SS501 and KARA are my favorite at that time. Actually all DSPs. When KARA first became 5 members they have that type of music. Kara used to 4 like FINKL but lost their best vocal member and then Jiyoung and Hara joined in. I was in the generation of transitioning of 1st gen to 2nd gen. When KARA was a 4 members their music are stronger but when they became 5 members it was the type of music like Illit. That's why they are very popular in Japan because of their cute style of music. As KARA 5 members matured their songs matured with them.
Had to peep your reaction after your post.....man, people need to chill lol. only kpop fans will take a compliment and turn it toxic. If this were something like the NBA and I said "dang, this player reminds me of a young Michael Jordan or LeBron" and the fans of that player jumped all over me, it'd find it pretty ridiculous considering what a compliment that is. Anyhoo.....I actually kinda get why in this first vid Wonhee is sort of the "center" (I haven't really read up on the group and don't know if they have official positions). It seems like she's definitely the member post formation that got the most buzz (and it seems like both positive and negative?). I also saw their pre debut variety on their channel and she definitely jumps out naturally and, at least in korean terms, the most well spoken and naturally entertaining.
People can't bring phrase "illit will be flop" Anymore because they're debut is so good, then they came with new thing called "newjeans copy, 2.0 newjeans" It's fine at start, i feel they praise illit for having good concept but then it become insult to downplay illit using newjeans fame, it's deffo an honor if they is similar to newjeans and hopefully success like newjeans too, but the way they say it like they think lowly to illit, they treat illit like they steal newjeans identity
The picture in my thumbnail alone screams newjeans loool. The denial I’ve seen is crazy. Give NJ their dues, even if it was RV coded (which it barely is because it’s not that poppy and more laidback choreo/vocal wise) there is still NJ influence, CLEARLY.
Sonically I don't connect them to new jeans a lot but that magnetic MV, new jeans everywhere. Not necessarily a bad thing for debut, but might be problem if it's continue in this direction all the way forward.
Lord… the comments are crazy 😂 They’re literally all babies. I’m excited to see how both groups grow. Though i understand why companies do it, I do think it’s too soon for them to debut. Sound wise, I’m not getting NJ at all. Sonically, I’m getting formis_9, LOONA, and le sserafim. All popular in their own right, all seniors. Aesthetically though? Yeah.. they’re definitely drawing inspo from the same moodboard as the NJ team. It’s fine, it’s a concept I enjoy. Their voices are pleasing and Magnetic is such an earworm. SLOW RABBIT 😭 MISSED HIM SO MUCH. I think this is the first tune I’ve heard from him since BTS. I’m so glad he’s working with these girls.
Yeahh im glad you see the aesthetics but I dunno how you can’t hear NJ at All?! Lool you must’ve not listen to their music much cos they could’ve literally released this with their Get Up EP. It blends easily with OMG & Cool With You and if it was their song it would fit WELL into their discography. More so than most Fromis/Loona or LSF songs I’ve heard.
They are charting soo good, 36 at global Spotify with 2.4 filtered streams, top 25 in every major korean charts ( its rising every hour, soon they will enter top 10 , already entered one at 3 ,others soon.
@mixraaexcept other Hybe groups are flopping🤔? I bet you haven’t even heard of BND.. yet they’re from the same label.. I know it’s a hard pill to swallow but.. and hear me out.. people will listen to a good easy listening song :0 😨😨😱
I dont understand why one group can be inspired from other when the first group doesnt invent anything. Its not like one group is using y2k style so others cant. Its a trend just like 90s jeans. To be honest i dont feel NJ songs are distinct. They sound just the same and look just fhe same in every video. Really like how long you are going to scream others are copying you? Just develop new concepts and move on..
I don't dislike when people say they are influenced by Newjeans, since Newjeans is probably the trendiest and one of the biggest in K-pop right now. It is inevitable to be influenced by someone who has a perfect formula that attracts fans. What I'm tired of is when people say ILLIT is just Newjeans 2.0 or a copy of Newjeans because it's kind of downplaying ILLIT as a group and discrediting their identity. So when people say something like, "Oh, they copied Newjeans' style and music, HYBE is overusing the concept," it pisses me off. When in fact, there were many groups that debuted after Newjeans that have more similarities with Newjeans than with ILLIT, but ILLIT gets hated more.
LOOOL and yet I criticised most SM releases from last year. Unlike you and many of your fellow weirdos I’m not a “stan” of a company without bias, I point things out for everyone cos I’m not delulu.
There’s nothing wrong with being another new jeans…..if they weren’t in hybe. JYPE has 5 active girl groups, all dropped music this year and it’s not even the end of march, none of the singles sound like the other. That’s how u debut multiple girl groups in the same company. Not this
If i had to pick a inspo I'm getting - I'm thinking more F(X) in the musical style but visually / fashion it's def NewJeans cause i feel like they saw it just works. then again its really all min heejin so it makes sense that i can see f(x) and newjeans in illit.
Definitely feels like the group/concept was built around Wonhee, but she seems to be stepping up so I think it can work, like you said the kfans definitely love her.
yunah and minju's voices are my faves! i actually grew on wonhee, she is a good center material for the group the choreo is so good, i'm really liking it! also i think their music reminds me more of loona yyxy musically than new jeans lol
Lool I’m glad you gave that example cos it’s proved how people are definitely forcing the Loona comparisons cos that song is groovier, higher in energy, stronger in vocals and is sonically so different to magnetic than any NJ song. So if people hear Loona before NJ who are closer in genre then it’s definitely disingenuous cos Cool With You & OMG are way more similar. I know you didn’t say it isn’t anything like NJ but if anyone else is imagining songs like love4eva then I can’t trust their judgement.
Yeah I definitely agree that the sound is more similar to New Jeans' genre and in now way do I think the title track sounds like love4eva but something about it just tickles my brain? Don't know how else to describe it but other songs that give me that kinda feeling are New Jeans Hype Boy, WJSN Secret, Loona/OEC Girl Front and Pristin V Get It 😊
i wish i could leave voice notes in youtube comments loll i fear i cant put energy into a TRUE thinkpiece detailing my feelings on this group, the newjeans comparisons, and general trends w 5th gen girl groups plus i KNOW someone is gonna misconstrue it and think im specifically hating on the group members lmao to shrink it down (bc i could very much so and would love to do a video essay on this lol) i'm basically "irritated" at newjeans bc due to their popularity, a new wave of kpop trends is here and therefore many new ggs (that are gaining popularity, i know not every single one is debuting w this sound) are debuting w the lofi, synthy, uk garage adjacent, + soft vocals and visually the long dark hair, y2kish but casual outfits vibe, storyline or reality based mvs etc and more of a "relaxed" and "relatable" approach to the group's vibe: y'all know what i'm talking abt pls don't act obtuse if you're a fan reading this comment
tldr sm will forever be on top for me and felt like trendsetters (idk abt that now lol) but i fear hybe are the new tastemakers + idk if i like said taste... describing the hybe vibe will be my next video essay/monster sized comment lmaooo
I skimmed through and I completely get where you’re coming from and it’s why I enjoyed UNIS tbh. It’ll be on Patreon but it was nice seeing something different. Also yes Yunah is on a different level for me too.
OKKKK i was gonna say i didnt watch universe ticket so at first i had no idea where they came from but i like that their release seemed trendy yet still distinct... i need to listen to it w headphones but i heard it earlier today and it really piqued my interest. also LOVE that it's a bigger group idk all the groups of 6 have been too same same-y @@Koko3op
I always remembered Wonhee as standing out the most for me while she was on the show. It was her facial expressions. She wasn't the strongest singer or dancer as far as I remember, but there was something about her where my eyes gravitated towards here whenever she was on stage. In the end, I wasn't surprised she made it. She hadn't even been a trainee that long. I feel like everything else will get better with experience, but she's a star on stage and in their debut MV for me.
ILLIT is a girl group which is composed of 5 members : Wonhee (Korean. She was born in 2007), Minju (Korean. She was born in 2004), Yunah (Korean. She was born in 2004), Iroha (Maknae. Japanese. She was born in 2008) and Moka (Japanese. She was born in 2004). The girl group was formed through a survival show called "R U Next?" which was a collaboration between JTBC and HYBE. The group debuted on March 25, 2024 with "SUPER REAL ME" Mini Album.
Fastest group to enter their debut song at global Spotify,(14hour with 1.3m filtered streams, 2nd day at 36 with 2.4 m streams) 520k something in usa Spotify
Does anyone else think that this video reminds them of Red Velvet...? Like rookie RV used to have cutesy songs like this with weird long, black hair aesthetic (Peek-A-Boo) and like weird concepts (rolling down a carpet or sitting in the dark lol). I have so many opinions about this debut line-up lol, BUT I'm supporting the girls, the HYBIES, specifically my biases Iroha and Moka. Hoping the best for Youngseo! Looking forward to Bang Jeemin in I-LAND 2. 😄
I guess I'm on "wait and see" status with this group for now. Though, I think they made a good choice with the concept+sound. With the current trend for soft songs + soft vocalists, there is limited room to differentiate. Even within Hybe, they have NewJeans established at one spot and even LSF went softer via another approach with "Easy". So, credit to them for finding another way to differentiate their group, and keeping it a mainstream hit, while keeping the soft vocals sound (which they needed to based on the members they selected for Illit). So, yeah, good job to them on this first step
Once again, I have to admit that I didn't watch the show where the group was formed, hahah. Ended up being super impressed by how listenable and fun it was. In a way, some of the songs reminded me a lot of Odd Eye Circle's Air Force One? Not in a copy & paste way. More like it was a similar vibe music wise? My one (1) complaint is that I wish they had included at least one more song, but there we are. The MV was quirky in a good way too.
For me magnetic it's giving LOONA 💝 the only thing that reminds me of New Jeans is their hairstyle lmao. Magnetic could easily be Gowon's solo or Vivi's solo
