Mashaallah alhamdulillah Allah has given Reason and insight which is niyamat of Allah. Allah has given us Quran, Reason, intellect, Hadith and History. Islam comprises all.
1. Quran - Hadis hy na Qadeem, jub taqalim sy hrooF sadir hojain to wo hadis pazeer hoty, 2. wese to Esa ibn e Maryum Kalma Allah hyn to kya unko b Qadeem maan lain, 3. Allah ki koi tongue ni jis se wo bolta ho Allah ki koi language ni ye languages to insano k communication k liye hyn han Allah ka ye Kalam in zabano me nazil huwa jo khud Allah ny tahleeq kiya 4. Loh e Mahfooz to khud Hadis hy jub likha/takhleeq huwa Kalam , kisi Hadis cheez pr mehfooz ho to saaf zahir hy ye Makhlooq hy Question: Khuda ka irada aur Kalam ka zahoor kese huwa , kya khuda makhlooq ki tra tongue sy bolta ? Note: Ain Zat safat sirf 3 hyn ilm Qudrat Adraq
Maze ki baat ye hai ke Ahle kalaam ke nazdeek Allah ka kalaam us ki zaat me ba maani-e-ilm maujood hai jo gair Naatik hai, suna nahi jaa sakta Allah bachaae!!!
1. Quran - Hadis hy na Qadeem, jub taqalim sy hrooF sadir hojain to wo hadis pazeer hoty, 2. wese to Esa ibn e Maryum Kalma Allah hyn to kya unko b Qadeem maan lain, 3. Allah ki koi tongue ni jis se wo bolta ho Allah ki koi language ni ye languages to insano k communication k liye hyn han Allah ka ye Kalam in zabano me nazil huwa jo khud Allah ny tahleeq kiya 4. Loh e Mahfooz to khud Hadis hy jub likha/takhleeq huwa Kalam , kisi Hadis cheez pr mehfooz ho to saaf zahir hy ye Makhlooq hy Question: Khuda ka irada aur Kalam ka zahoor kese huwa , kya khuda makhlooq ki tra tongue sy bolta ?
Kia naqal asal ka mutaabadil hosakta hy.? Agar Quran haadis nahi aur qadeem hy tau Kia yeh jo moujooda Masail e insaani hein us ka hal paish kar sakta hy jo k haal se taaluq rakhtay hein. Agar Quran makhlooq nhi tau Kia phr khaaliq hy?
1. Quran - Hadis hy na Qadeem, jub taqalim sy hrooF sadir hojain to wo hadis pazeer hoty, 2. wese to Esa ibn e Maryum Kalma Allah hyn to kya unko b Qadeem maan lain, 3. Allah ki koi tongue ni jis se wo bolta ho Allah ki koi language ni ye languages to insano k communication k liye hyn han Allah ka ye Kalam in zabano me nazil huwa jo khud Allah ny tahleeq kiya 4. Loh e Mahfooz to khud Hadis hy jub likha/takhleeq huwa Kalam , kisi Hadis cheez pr mehfooz ho to saaf zahir hy ye Makhlooq hy Question: Khuda ka irada aur Kalam ka zahoor kese huwa , kya khuda makhlooq ki tra tongue sy bolta ?
1. Quran - Hadis hy na Qadeem, jub taqalim sy hrooF sadir hojain to wo hadis pazeer hoty, 2. wese to Esa ibn e Maryum Kalma Allah hyn to kya unko b Qadeem maan lain, 3. Allah ki koi tongue ni jis se wo bolta ho Allah ki koi language ni ye languages to insano k communication k liye hyn han Allah ka ye Kalam in zabano me nazil huwa jo khud Allah ny tahleeq kiya 4. Loh e Mahfooz to khud Hadis hy jub likha/takhleeq huwa Kalam , kisi Hadis cheez pr mehfooz ho to saaf zahir hy ye Makhlooq hy Question: Khuda ka irada aur Kalam ka zahoor kese huwa , kya khuda makhlooq ki tra tongue sy bolta ?
With all due respect to him, may Allah forgive him for this error! This is pure misguidance!. Qur'an Allah hi ka kalaam hai aur uske kalaam karne ki kaifiyat se hum nawaqif hain! Kisi sahaba ne is tarah ki falsafiyana moshgafiyan nahi ki! Aur hame wahi ruk jana chahiye jaha sahaba ruk gaye the!! Allahumma la tuzig qulubuna ba'da iz hadaitana! Oh Allah don't let our hearts stray from the right path after guidance!
S Arman He hasn’t concocted a new theory about Quran. This is the mainstream understanding of major theologians of Islam barring Ibn Taymiyyah and others of his persuasion. His understanding is quite subtle and refined in the sense that it effectively repels any logical arguments that would define uttered speech with contingencies of time and space while Allah’s speech is neither bound by space nor time.
Well, I understand your sense of being as careful as possible in matter of religion. It is a good thing and I don't mean to disrespect. But, please do consider that, a true muslim doesn't need to get into these falsafiyana behas.... but if a deviator or bedati starts claiming something, the whole muslim history is complete with such great people of knowledge who stood up against those deviators (Mutazilla most prominently, zahiri etc) and thus a proper descipline of Ilm al Kalam was formed over time. These discussions are still relevant in the modern times as we still have people like to understand everything scientifically and through mathematical logic. So this discussion is still relevant and needed wether you like or not.
ye lo aik aur internet ka aalim nikal aaya. bhai go study fiqh for 20 years then reply with proofs from sahaba, tabaeen or whatever you think is credible cuz i can assure you ur credibility here at this moment is 0 percent. May Allah have mercy on you for saying regarding something you have very limited knowledge about.
