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Image editing or not - how far should we go as photographers? 

Wolf Amri
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Image editing or not?
In this video I reveal an image edit that I posted on instagram lately and asked you guys and girls if you can spot the error. Nobody did and so I asked myself: how far should we go as photographers in regard to image editing. How much is OK, and what would be considered as too much. Particularly with wildlife, that is quite an important question.
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@lancmac
@lancmac 3 года назад
My editing ends when the photograph is changed to a point where a viewer can not see or recognize the actual/natural scene.... If the photo is changed beyond that it is commercial art.... Both are ok but one is a photo and the other is "picture" be it photo paper, watercolor, oil paint or offset printer.
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Thanks for your comment. I agree. I even don’t think photography itself is art. To me it’s a craft.
@selfofthephalanx
@selfofthephalanx 3 года назад
I enjoy your videos. Please keep up the good work! My own preference is to avoid manipulating the subject because it changes the story. I tend to limit modifications to contrast, saturation etc.
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Thank you! I usually don't spend all that much time editing because in recent years "real" is quite a trend.
@annakoon5563
@annakoon5563 3 года назад
I see people “Ooing” and “Ahhing” over edited images that don’t look real in any way. I’m new but I like to see freckles, sun spots on older people and crows feet in a portrait. I can’t get into these heavily manipulated photos that are all the rage.
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
@@annakoon5563 absolutely. Some just overdo it with mainly prebuilt software like portrait pro. For my professional work I always try to edit the images to make them look like I saw the people. Images in general are unforgiving, so a little editing is more natural than the full truth. But more is not always better.
@annakoon5563
@annakoon5563 3 года назад
@@wolfamri Yes!! I’ve read that if it’s something temporary like acne or a fever blister, feel free to edit it out. If it’s something permanent, leave it!
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Agreed. Plus: if it’s something that a photographer with a trained eye didn’t realize much on location, but is kinda prominent in the image: reduce the prominence, but don’t remove it. But if you are shooting for clients you sometimes have to please their wishes anyway 😂.
@mzk7774
@mzk7774 Год назад
I am a stock photographer, and I have recently seen an analysis of travel photos by another stock photographer basically saying that the photos with most aggressive, kind of hdr edits, sell the most... so I concluded that I inevitably have to go that way if I want to make some sales.
@wolfamri
@wolfamri Год назад
Interesting. I wouldn't have expected that 🤔
@KimHojbergJensen
@KimHojbergJensen 3 года назад
Last year I preordered/purchased Luminar AI to avoid paying the Lightroom subscription. When the software released, I found most of the tutorials were about replacing the sky or making people thinner etc. It put me off so much, and I still subscribe to Adobe. (where you can do the same). For a professional that has to produce a certain image for a client I think it is OK to use the possibilities, but I would never replace the sky on my personal photos, add objects that weren't there or make my family look different, except for a particular fun shot. It is just my feeling.
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
I totally agree, replacing the sky is something I found really odd. Making people a bit thinner though does have its use. It‘s a weird phenomenon that some people just look different on images than they do in real life. Some better, others worse. I like to modify the images to make them look the way I saw them.
@b.s.4478
@b.s.4478 2 года назад
Agree! I hate that replace sky crap. For me that is not photography, is purely imaging manipulation.
@joronjo305
@joronjo305 3 года назад
Another excellent video Wolf. I really do look forward to seeing the work you do with photography and with these videos. They’re fantastic all around!!! You say storks like to feast on frogs? ... 🐸 Frogs you say!!! Frogs? 😆 😂 They should pick on something their own size. 😂 😆 Save a frog - eat a sunfish, or some other destructive fish. 🐟 🐟
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
😂 Did I say frogs, Mrs President? I meant grass seeds and algae 😬😂. Thanks for your continued support, Jo. Much appreciated 🙏🙏
@joronjo305
@joronjo305 3 года назад
@@wolfamri 😊 Smile 😊
@davidmilisock5200
@davidmilisock5200 3 года назад
Great subject, light and shadow direction errors are one if not the most common errors with editing.
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Thank you, David 🙏
@JLTPhotog
@JLTPhotog 3 года назад
I'm always impressed with the production quality of your videos. 👍
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Thank you 🙏🙏 To be very honest, I wasn’t all that happy with this video, because there wasn’t enough video content. So it’s great to hear that!
@Anonymous-ft7ut
@Anonymous-ft7ut 3 года назад
@@wolfamri Aww!!! So humble 🙂👍 Could you please guide with which software you were able to make you standing and talking like this with background changes like these... Any help from anyone is greatly appreciated 🙂
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
The technique is called green screen and can be done with various software. I use premiere pro. Key is an evenly lit green background (unless you are an alien and have green skin, then it needs to be blue 😂) and good lighting of the subject. Ideally also a rim light to avoid green spill from the background.
@anotherperspectivede6975
@anotherperspectivede6975 3 года назад
Good Story telling! ;)
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Thanks, Jens. More telling than story 😂
@crisp.6341
@crisp.6341 3 года назад
I'm REALLY missing your videos. I understand if you're busy.
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
🙏 🤗! There‘s a lot more to come, promised 😉
@crisp.6341
@crisp.6341 3 года назад
@@wolfamri Okay :)
@shanumukhasai4586
@shanumukhasai4586 3 года назад
Sir we want a detailed video series for photoshop editing Please
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Thanks, Shanumukha! Noted ;)
@jorgesegura42
@jorgesegura42 3 года назад
Great video!! 👏 I would love more videos like this one!
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Thank you, Jorge. Wish noted 😉
@philyoung4804
@philyoung4804 3 года назад
Great videp
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Thanks, Phil!
@jamieangeles5990
@jamieangeles5990 3 года назад
Depends if you're selling truth or art 🤔
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
That probably sums it up ;)
@JLTPhotog
@JLTPhotog 3 года назад
I'm getting convinced most folks don't want photos anymore.... everyone wants art.
@MrWDCash
@MrWDCash 3 года назад
Fake? I guess that depends on what your doing with the image. Net Geo would call if fake, a wildlife contest would call it fake. But. What about an artist? As a wildlife artist I tend to be more forgiving about editing. For me all good photography is edited and very good photography is normally edited much more. Its actually, imo impossible to capture any image, even with film, that does not have processing involved. SOOC in the digital are is impossible because the camera itself will by design be altering the captured light to produce a JPEG . Good job on Stork legs. I bet you could correct the "mistake" in PS. Bill
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Thanks, Bill 😉. Totally agree on editing in general.
@maelle1819
@maelle1819 3 года назад
Hello, did you use Manual mode? And if yes, do you always use Manual mode for wildlife photography? And why? Is it to be able to lower the ISO? Thanks!
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Yes, I did use manual mode, which I mostly do for everything. Reason being is that when I changed to digital, I felt the cameras didn't do an all that great job in regard to metering. And I got so used to it, that I still do it like that, even though cameras these days do a much better job. Plus: with mirrorless you get what you see anyway, so it has become much easier too shoot manual. But would I recommend it? Not really. I usually like to shoot wide open apertures and with the min shutter speed that I have in mind. My camera would let me set Auto ISO with min shutter speed, so Aperture priority with that would definitely be the better method. I need to do that more.
@maelle1819
@maelle1819 3 года назад
@@wolfamri Thank you for your answer! But if you are in Aperture mode, with ISO Auto, you won't be able to lower the ISO. I have understood in the video that you don't mind having a darker image because you can brighten it up on Lightroom. I thought that it was the reason why you used Manual Mode.
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
You can always use exposure compensation for that. Let me explain: - I set A mode and the aperture to the lowest possible number - I set Auto ISO and in my camera settings I can choose a min shutter speed for Auto ISO and set it to 1/2000sec Then the camera will choose a higher ISO, whenever it would have to reduce the shutter speed below 1/2000sec If I feel the ISO gets too high and I want to lower that (which is a rather rare case, because I need the brightness anyway), I can dial in a negative exposure compensation. I hope that makes sense.
@maelle1819
@maelle1819 3 года назад
@@wolfamri Thank you, I understand. But I just had a look at my camera, a Canon Powershot G5X and I don't have the possibility to set a min shutter speed for Auto ISO. So I am not able to do what you do with my camera. The most important thing though, is that I have understood your explanation :-).
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Oh yes 🤗. Don’t worry, almost every auto setting of a camera can be done manually if you understand what you are doing 😉
@crisp.6341
@crisp.6341 3 года назад
When is the "geese" vlog coming up?
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
I'm not really sure, if we gathered enough material to do it 😬. We have lots of photos, but not all that much videos because it was extremely windy on our two visits to the area. The weather has been really bad and cold this spring 😥😭
@1over137
@1over137 3 года назад
I think when you enhance a photo to better represent the shoot you took and how it communicates, that's photography. When you start modifying the image structure to add, alter, rotate, flip, airbrush, composite etc, you are moving into "Visual Art" using photographic sources, rather than pure photography. Just my opinion maybe. Maybe I'm just skewing the definitions of Documentary photography and photographic art. We all know those lines blur a lot in modern media.
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
I agree, Paul. thanks for your feedback!
@derekshearer9049
@derekshearer9049 3 года назад
How far? To the Outer Limits. Stop only when the imagination fails.
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
💪👌
@ceoatcrystalsoft4942
@ceoatcrystalsoft4942 3 года назад
I think it depends on your end goal. If Nat Geo is paying for animal behavior, or a parent wants you to capture their child's birthday party, we should go for realism. If you are shooting for yourself, for fun, or for no specific reasons, I don't see a reason not to do what interests you. Besides, it's one thing to create a Frankenstein in real life and another to create a Frankenstein via media editing. Good info as always, Wolf.
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Thank you. I'm in the same boat. I once had GEO asking me to purchase a license for a thunderstorm shot. I told them that it was a merge of 2 images because I would have a bad feeling selling them something that wasn't 100% real.
@harshal1022
@harshal1022 3 года назад
Sir plz make video on editing of those birds..
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Thanks!! I hope there is a little more interest.
@TheMarkSasuke64
@TheMarkSasuke64 2 года назад
Been appreciating your videos. I have my first paid session later and I'm nervous about not giving the clients the best work possible. It's been calming going over the basics, you're a natural teacher.
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 2 года назад
Thanks so much! Good luck with the shoot. Communication is everything, so keep talking, even if it’s rubbish things 😂.
@andreasbadjura
@andreasbadjura 3 года назад
It’s not really fake to show three fighters. Just a liiiiiittle bit fake. After all a few minutes before there were 3 of them fighting 😇
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
You know how to put my mind at ease, dad 😂
@s.m.ishraquerahmanmahin3248
@s.m.ishraquerahmanmahin3248 3 года назад
I'm just waiting for your photoshop tutorial series.
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Thank you, but I‘m afraid that might take a while. Photoshop is not what people usually expect from me 😉
@assaf_story
@assaf_story 2 года назад
you are amazing Wolf thank you
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 2 года назад
Thank YOU 🙏🤗
@tmewborn1
@tmewborn1 Год назад
Really neat work.
@wolfamri
@wolfamri Год назад
Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
@Pedro_Is
@Pedro_Is 3 года назад
photography should be freezing, captruring a moment... although one can pick photos from several sources and creat an image. As long as one is true and fair, photo is a photo and an image is something else, prettier as it maybe. Thank you
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Thank you for your feedback, Pedro!
@Pedro_Is
@Pedro_Is 3 года назад
@@wolfamri no, thank you for all your great work
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
🤗🤗
@earavichandran
@earavichandran 3 года назад
When I saw in instagram, I thought the error was in wrong parts merged etc. But, lighting is more surprising. Wonderful video sir.
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Thank you, Ravi!
@nabi.dastaran
@nabi.dastaran 3 года назад
Another great video👏👌, your channel is one of few channel that I accept notification (bell-all)! Since you asked, I'm always enjoying your tutorial videos, specifically lightroom tutorial. However, I know it may absorb less views than normal (as we talked before). Keep rock
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Thanks Nabi! I really appreciate that 🙏🙏
@petedraper5185
@petedraper5185 3 года назад
Go as far as you wish, with one caveat. Always detail any editing when entering a competition: and certainly abide by the rules of a competition with respect to editing. Video editing has been accepted in wildlife documentaries for many years, with studio footage deliberately made to appear natural. If it's good enough for David Attenborough, then why should there be any controversy when editing is used by photographers? I would certainly be interested in a video detailing how you achieved the final image.
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Good input, thanks! Video is a totally different beast. Too many documentaries basically faking everything to save time and money.
@Ihab.A
@Ihab.A 3 года назад
Great!
@wolfamri
@wolfamri 3 года назад
Thanks, Ihab!
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