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Imagine if you would get a stroke and get completely paralyzed - you would not be able to walk or talk and there would be no possibility to recover. You would still understand and remember everything, including your feelings and your thoughts, but you would not be able to scream nor struggle. Not to mention getting away from your life situation - you would be trapped in your own body. How would you make life worth living?
Kati Lepistö is one of the most touching speakers of TEDx Turku 2015, because this story is not an “imagine if” case, but her reality. Kati’s dream was to work as an international model before this life-changing incident. With a fixed goal she entered the model world of Los Angeles and Milano, making her dream come true. One day this stroke turned her world upside down and Kati was forced to change her dreams of being a model to the life of living with quadriplegia.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx

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@jenniferdelahunty8687
@jenniferdelahunty8687 7 лет назад
As a young woman I suffered 2 strokes 5 days after having my baby girl I was left paralyzed on my left side I have had many obstacles to face in my recovery I am now in the grips of depression and watching Kati has inspired me to buck myself up and have more of a positive attitude I found this video very inspirational thank you Kati thank you
@windstorm1000
@windstorm1000 7 лет назад
are you feeling better? isn't kati an inspiration!!!
@kinniwright1642
@kinniwright1642 5 лет назад
I have depression and can't seem to rid of it.
@k.e.1760
@k.e.1760 4 года назад
Best of luck Jennifer!
@aotone
@aotone 3 года назад
Are you ok ??
@emilyjude9025
@emilyjude9025 3 года назад
Get well 4 your daughter
@monicasuyo1330
@monicasuyo1330 3 года назад
I suffered a stroke in September 2020 and despite loads of therapy, I am still paralyzed on my left side and in a wheelchair ! Depression is really bad! I also think of suicide often. Miha and others you are all inspirational and just GOOD people!
@brianreilly8033
@brianreilly8033 3 года назад
Have you seen INR in Boca Raton Fla.? They can help some
@legendary8838
@legendary8838 2 года назад
I had my stroke September 1st 2020 and my left side was affected also , although I’m so close I’m still so far it seems to be 100% but a year and a half later my depression is horrible at times
@BobMillerSuccess
@BobMillerSuccess 8 лет назад
As a two time survivor of stroke, I applaud your awesomeness
@warrenkuntzmann4210
@warrenkuntzmann4210 6 лет назад
I suffered a massive right stroke and paralyzed on my left side. My heart goes out to her. She's beautiful and very smart!!. God bless her!!!
@mihabarnes4184
@mihabarnes4184 8 лет назад
I am recovering from a stroke and was paralyzed on my right side and at times I get very depressed. This woman, Kathy, is an inspiration and she brings me to tears. I know how she feels and I can see her spirit is beautiful. The love she has from her husband is beyond words. Going from being totally functional to paralyzed is heart breaking and I had to work at coming out of depression. I thought of suicide several times but then I knew it was selfish. Thank God for you Kathy, you have helped me in ways I cannot express. Huggs and prayers to you!!
@ericadenison7118
@ericadenison7118 7 лет назад
Bless you Miha, yes Kathy is a huge/huge inspiration! You are amazing too, shine your light Miha it is bright!
@missmicheleo
@missmicheleo 4 года назад
Miha check put this new anti depressant Venlafaxine. It has great reviews.
@nishitshah1742
@nishitshah1742 Год назад
Hii miha did u recovered??
@zeenathabdulla1473
@zeenathabdulla1473 7 лет назад
Dear Kati, you are a beautiful woman. I have tears in my eyes as I am writting this to you. In 2014 I had a stroke which affected my Left side. I am in recovery at the moment and thanks to you, I am no longer feeling as if my life is over. I can smile, talk and walk. You are an inspiration to me. I hope you will continue to fight Kati, never give up. Thank you for appearing on TED
@ChrissyD22472
@ChrissyD22472 5 лет назад
Are you kidding me? I'm over here bawling my eyes out.. This is so beautiful, the world needs more love right now and always..
@beelarehman5992
@beelarehman5992 5 лет назад
Beautiful couple. This woman is a warrior
@tariqrazi1
@tariqrazi1 5 лет назад
beela rehman firstly I feel can imagine why there is no capital letter I also avoid because left hand is not available just wanted to say we too can be warrior e.g will give a glimpses of what i am engaging in to be a warrior ........ Everyone says WILL POWER & PGHYSIOTHARAPY are the only tools for rehab & recovery from POST BRAIN STROKE PARALYSIS; question is how to maintain high level of will power. 1. Healthy activities - never let the mind be empty to harbor negative thoughts. 2. Watching cheerful soothing program & events on television & social media. 3. Busy yourself in creativities always related to recovery process, like making some kind of record of progress, after initial recovery start inventing exercises after seeing some relevant program on internet, in close conformity & parameters laid down e.g. healthy hand can be a yard stick for limits & dimensions (scope extent, measure & magnitude) [typing this all with TENS machine working on numbness of both feet] 4. Always have missionary zeal in all activities, e.g. start thinking & planning how all your road to recovery can help fellow survivors & victims. 5. Guard against negative affect of information, data & material published on internet most of which is advertisement oriented, however can be useful if carefully scrutinized; even found some pseudo, so called spiritualists & teachers hovering with victims & survivors commenting on paralysis related videos on RU-vid trying to trap innocent but worried people in pain, was hurting to see such vultures. ..................... still working on this
@hemasookram4655
@hemasookram4655 3 года назад
My hubby has asked for a divorce and abandoned me and our kid financially now that I had my stroke and cannot help
@geoffbrooke-jones5250
@geoffbrooke-jones5250 5 лет назад
Dear Kati, I too suffered a stroke. I was 55 and fit. It has affected my left side. I felt very much at peace when lying helpless on the ground. I felt that I was in a very natural state. In my recovery, I find my life has been touched by something extraordinary. You and your husband are very special. I understand what you communicate. You are one of the most marvellous human beings. Good wishes to you both.
@jamesmccormack8411
@jamesmccormack8411 8 лет назад
Just beautiful!!! Feeling so much love in my heart. What a beautiful smile she has and they are a beautiful amazing couple. That's what true love is. Thank you for this video.
@emelitastenger6983
@emelitastenger6983 2 года назад
Watching this Video is a lifesavers. I have suffered stoke 2018 and several setbacks. I am still trying especially with the pandemic which has weakened me nore. I will continue my goal toward independence with Cathy as my inspiration. May God guide me and all of you reading this who have life struggles and keep us strong and persevere. We must appreciate life and know our body will continue giving as long as we continue doing. God bless everyone 🙏🏻 ❤ 😇💝🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@AneisdevidaCoZaOfficial
@AneisdevidaCoZaOfficial 8 лет назад
You are truly inspiring Kati, there is a constant twinkle in your eye that no one can deny. Thank you for sharing this message of hope that there is life after suffering a stroke of such magnitude.
@srcarranza
@srcarranza Год назад
You are superheroes. Beautiful human beings. Thank you.
@lorilee3306
@lorilee3306 7 лет назад
What an amazing couple. I have as much admiration for her husband as I do for her. They are inspirational.
@marciaharms465
@marciaharms465 8 лет назад
Thanks ever so much. My stroke made me feel terrified. I fell so often and now I can still work but feel often discouraged with each fall and so many broken bones. This video helped me so much to appreciate women, like Kathy, who are inspirations to us all. Your movement today was overwhelmingly contagious.
@berthadeuriarte1467
@berthadeuriarte1467 5 лет назад
Marcia Harms i
@suzimore92
@suzimore92 5 лет назад
such a loving and wonderful couple. I worked for years with many students that learned how to use alternative communication devices with large boards and with computer assisted techniques. There are people inside bodies that we could dismiss if we cannot communicate with them that is why it is so important to find ways of speech if possible.
@29evolution
@29evolution 7 лет назад
Brave, strong & beautiful. Hats off to you Kati.
@TinaSibley
@TinaSibley 7 лет назад
It was such an honour to meet you Kati and your story is so inspiring. Love and light shines from your heart and lights up anyone you come into contact with. Thank you for sharing with us xxx
@amandakraft261
@amandakraft261 4 года назад
She's so beautiful.
@susannewesthlarsen
@susannewesthlarsen 8 лет назад
Dear Kati. Thankyou so much for your inspiration. I am so grateful to get to know you, You are a blessing to us all and an example to follow. Much LOVE from Susanne.
@VivekaDijkstra
@VivekaDijkstra 4 года назад
What a beautiful inspiring story. Thank you for showing up. Lifechanging words. And, what a beautiful connection these two beloveds sharing with the word. I'm thankful for this example
@HalfWarrior
@HalfWarrior 5 лет назад
Amazing people! God Bless you both!
@stephibonacci1973
@stephibonacci1973 5 лет назад
So much love and courage, true love and perseverance... Bless you guys💗
@rmay2761
@rmay2761 8 лет назад
Bless you and thanks for your positive message.
@marylagreca2191
@marylagreca2191 5 лет назад
Wow, what a positive message!!!! You are beautiful inside and out!! I went through the worst experience to lose my son in the car accident when I was a passenger. Your message helped me see the positive in life... thank you!!!!
@Asha873
@Asha873 6 лет назад
Kati you’re such a positive light to everyone! Your positive outlook on life is so admirable. Definitely having a positive attitude brings you great things in your life. Our minds are so powerful and we can achieve anything! I myself suffered Locked in Syndrome at 26. I am now 38. It’s been a very long journey and still is but having a positive attitude and surrounding yourself with supportive people like your husband keeps us going, even in our dark moments. You’re such a beautiful soul Kati and this shows in all your RU-vid videos I have seen. God bless, keep smiling, keep being the light :)
@Johanna040713
@Johanna040713 5 лет назад
Beautiful story and a beautiful couple. Thank you for sharing your story.
@paulharris5290
@paulharris5290 8 лет назад
Truly amazing, thank you so much.
@bradmize1644
@bradmize1644 6 лет назад
Kati, I had a massive hemorrhagic stroke 8 months ago. You are such an inspiration to me. You are truly an earth angel. Just so you know I have never had a hero until now. K.O.K.O. (kEEP ON KEEPING ON) Kati!
@monicasuyo1330
@monicasuyo1330 3 года назад
What an inspiration you are Kati/Kathy she also made me cry and her husband is also an inspiration and a wonderful man!.!!
@rhonda6325
@rhonda6325 5 лет назад
You are truly a inspiration to us...especially those of us who have had a stroke ...giving everyone some inspiration ...please keep making your videos 😍 💜
@alessandraserra9255
@alessandraserra9255 6 лет назад
Kati you are so inspiring, what an amazing woman you are!!!
@ms2canplay
@ms2canplay 5 лет назад
Kati your husband is cute, beautiful,sincere,adorable and amazing Dose he have a brother? Lol
@oObingOo
@oObingOo 2 года назад
She is truly an inspiration. What an amazing woman
@radicallyrescued5249
@radicallyrescued5249 7 лет назад
Beautiful ...Inspiring .....Thank you ...Sending you Extra Love and Grace
@crabpiequeen3521
@crabpiequeen3521 4 года назад
This was super inspiring! Thank you beautiful woman! Had a stroke June 2018.
@parkestanley2436
@parkestanley2436 5 лет назад
I'm now a big fan and thank you!!!
@Jesus.purple
@Jesus.purple 6 лет назад
Jesus has given this precious woman the miracle of perserverance. Thank you Jesus.
@blueboy3303
@blueboy3303 3 года назад
I am also a stroke survivor, had a stroke 5 years ago. Thanks for the courage you have, I am encouraged by your story. People had compassion but they lack empathy, understanding one's condition gives you a different prospective.
@Jsandoval850
@Jsandoval850 5 лет назад
Such Beautiful souls ❤️
@_slier
@_slier 4 года назад
This is the true meaning of *Perseverance* .May Allah bless you
@jenniferwolf545
@jenniferwolf545 4 года назад
You are both so very beautiful ! Thank You for your incredible inspiration . LOVE YOU !
@mattlauer3323
@mattlauer3323 2 года назад
what a beautiful young lady such an inspiration. I am 20 yrs post dtroke
@jplaut08
@jplaut08 8 лет назад
Wow. I am so inspired by you!!! So glad you are my friend. Be well, Kati.
@FREE2LUV
@FREE2LUV 8 лет назад
You are a remarkable and amazing woman and a true inspirational to all. Thank you for sharing your story and proving that the word IMPOSSIBLE truly means I'M POSSIBLE.
@middlemarie4430
@middlemarie4430 5 лет назад
He is a strong man. He is basically her caregiver. I mean it is inspirational and she has great worth but he is her caregiver. Exhausting for him.
@Ziggyone1224
@Ziggyone1224 7 лет назад
kati your an amazing person and a true super hero god bless you both
@Parrot2020
@Parrot2020 3 года назад
Kati , you are ONE strong woman . God bless you and strengthen you! Jesus love you 💕
@debblackmore7460
@debblackmore7460 Год назад
Such a inspiration keep going doing amazing things stay strong stay positive stay safe everyone takecare xx
@HalfWarrior
@HalfWarrior 4 года назад
God bless this woman!
@johnyepthomi892
@johnyepthomi892 4 года назад
Ofcurse iits her positive attitude but It's her near and dear ones that is the ultimate hope to contain that positivity.
@ismeisme6441
@ismeisme6441 2 года назад
I 💞this couple. Their 💞is so strong and powerful. Love you Kati ❣️
@markyamaguchi9571
@markyamaguchi9571 Год назад
God bless you and your family
@jburton413
@jburton413 4 года назад
Kati you are amazing
@HorseMoNH
@HorseMoNH Месяц назад
She is sooo strong!
@debblackmore7460
@debblackmore7460 Год назад
You got this x
@vevomaxx5779
@vevomaxx5779 8 лет назад
GOOD VIDEO. THANKS.
@tinyhawkforde5259
@tinyhawkforde5259 2 года назад
God Bless her🙏🏼❤🙏🏼
@kayzeegirl972
@kayzeegirl972 5 лет назад
I am overwhelmed at the love of a man for his wife shown here. As it is supposed to be as per Jehovah’s direction. Unfortunately this time we live in was foretold by Jesus as the last days+ would be nothing like it should be. I am only tryuto share my hope+ I am assured of this that we are promised an end to the mess mankind has made of every possible thing given to us by our creator + things returned to as they were many centuries ago. So many scriptures that give us this hope. Too much info + I am only putting this thought here because I am so uplifted by you Kati+ her parents who gave of themselves for their daughter. Thankyou so much for this + other videos. I have seen many on this subject + there are many that had this happen also who fully recovered after yrs of being” licked in”. One such young woman was on dancing with the stars a few yrs ago. Again sending much love to you 💕
@kayzeegirl972
@kayzeegirl972 5 лет назад
I meant “ locked in” 😁
@vilmaryv
@vilmaryv 5 лет назад
Beautiful couple 🥰🤗
@maryc7830
@maryc7830 7 лет назад
I love Kati. We should all learn a little bit from her.
@marykoshy9299
@marykoshy9299 7 лет назад
she looks rich and arrogant
@marykoshy9299
@marykoshy9299 7 лет назад
very rich.. just look at her complexion and the clothes she's wearing bitch deserved what she got
@lorilee3306
@lorilee3306 7 лет назад
Mary Koshy you should be ashamed.
@juletaurus
@juletaurus 7 лет назад
Mary Koshy You are a horribly miserable person. Hopefully for those around you, you will stop hating yourself and others. Who are you to say someone deserves to suffer?
@marykoshy9299
@marykoshy9299 7 лет назад
jjjjmmmm my name is Judy. all these people were arrogant proud vain materialistic before until tragedy struck.she is pretending to look humble and pitiful. she has a very "rich" look. she is not suffering. millions of people are living in poverty and homeless. judy
@joeldecoster8816
@joeldecoster8816 4 года назад
INSPIRING BUT NOT REAL FOR MOST PEOPLE. she obviously has a strong support system, and tons of money,so fortunate for her.
@ultraboombean
@ultraboombean 4 года назад
She is lucky in that respect , and everyone should have these opportunities regardless of their circumstances.
@persiancatsarecool
@persiancatsarecool 4 года назад
I just have to say those boots with that fur cuff, fabulous!
@nabilnetan9515
@nabilnetan9515 4 года назад
who cant move his/her legs can't keep that muscle mass and definetion they lie this person don't have anything
@henningvanderhoeven
@henningvanderhoeven 3 года назад
@@nabilnetan9515 Her muscles are fine, she just cannot make them move. There is a difference.
@Cathleen861
@Cathleen861 4 года назад
Wow. Just....wow!
@Apkaapnaqomdost
@Apkaapnaqomdost 8 лет назад
thats great for hope i really become now feeling and believe in that everything is possible for humain just we try
@windstorm1000
@windstorm1000 7 лет назад
Kati--you are remarkable. And who is this gentleman who supports you? Is he from Spain?
@henningvanderhoeven
@henningvanderhoeven 6 лет назад
Hi I am not Spanish, i am from Curacao
@debbiramsey4603
@debbiramsey4603 4 года назад
I have a problem I'm an old guy and 68" and I just naturally seem to get hurt by people's troubles that I can't fix. But I have been praying for her and family.
@kinniwright1642
@kinniwright1642 5 лет назад
I believe in miracles
@persiancatsarecool
@persiancatsarecool 4 года назад
She said many things that have helped me including start now to be what you want. I need to stop planning and just do. Thank you. They are having success with treating all kinds of Neuro logical problems with stem cells in animals. I think in the not to distant future there will be treatment for KatI that will greatly improve her conditon. I feel quite certain of it. I hope you guys will come back and do another TED talk.
@theropesofrenovation9352
@theropesofrenovation9352 2 года назад
Oh God, that happened to me in Mar 2021 but thank goodness, they recognized what happened and did a thrombectomy. I couldn't move or speak or anything. It was awful.
@colleenbrinkman5145
@colleenbrinkman5145 5 лет назад
Praying for a miracle from Almighty God...He loves her very much
@marlenenionesdevera9678
@marlenenionesdevera9678 Год назад
Pls no worries you will recover , as I’m fortunately CVA survivor since 20.09 of April 24 drs invaded my brain to clipping in a 4 places , I’m really fortunate to survived on this kind of stroked I’m since taking blood thinner for the rest of my life left in short I’m often go to the LAB have my INR after sttoked I’m hemiplegic then I go to a private therapy , from 20.09 up to 20,10 I begun regaining my walking and put myself to a facility gym and work out in the eleptical machine to moved my 4 limps , as of today on wards fortunately I’m walking without any support cane or ect, , so pls be patient you will achieve what you lost of course you must include prayer take care :
@strokeandthegarden9496
@strokeandthegarden9496 Год назад
keep moving that is the key.. plus don't let it beat you.. celebrate the small gains
@donnaryhter7458
@donnaryhter7458 4 года назад
I am very sad watching this video 😭 I was watching her all videos.. God watch over her 🙏🏻
@debbiramsey4603
@debbiramsey4603 4 года назад
I've heard of that. Is is some how related to guidance barre possibly. I don't remember,
@lindaguida4074
@lindaguida4074 3 года назад
My brother suffered a Massive Stroke at 59, he’s 61 now. Aphasia, right arm & leg paralyzed. Has no insurance....it’s a Slow Suicide!
@debbiramsey4603
@debbiramsey4603 4 года назад
Long who there was a woman who had a stroke to where if she was standing on a street corner she couldn't tell if cars were moving or still. She has little motions that kinds of reminds of people in rehab I've watched trying to get the nerves to go the right path as they're learning again. We won the chicken pox as a kid nut they're not all gone. There are some hideouts that will get out and cause shingles. And I'm quite sure that those chicken pox hideouts affect your nerves speed, the man told me u have significantly faster reaction times than most people. Could she try small amount of coconut oil..kills old chicken pox.. and it might remove the nerves lingering around in the nerve paths. I got up about 2 hours thinking on this because I was caring about her condition and it was buggging me. All I can do is do ..simple man thinking.
@arathinarayanappa7716
@arathinarayanappa7716 2 года назад
🙏🙏🙏
@brddks7629
@brddks7629 5 лет назад
👏👏👏
@emilyjude9025
@emilyjude9025 3 года назад
Why imagine it can happen 2 any one even completely alone sleeping at late night
@samreenmuqadam
@samreenmuqadam 7 лет назад
salute to u both May Allah bless u both with happiness n togetherness. Aameen
@coolbeat2644
@coolbeat2644 5 лет назад
AMEEN
@buddhablossomsconcord3245
@buddhablossomsconcord3245 6 лет назад
how do you make that plexiglass board?
@henningvanderhoeven
@henningvanderhoeven 6 лет назад
I could send you a picture of it if you want
@mpampistsotsos3629
@mpampistsotsos3629 9 месяцев назад
How long you took recovery arm
@escapingboredom6958
@escapingboredom6958 3 года назад
How is she doing now ?
@henningvanderhoeven
@henningvanderhoeven 3 года назад
Kati is doing fine.
@joshuawayneyork
@joshuawayneyork 2 года назад
God, talk about making a grown man cry...
@vinabenedicto7983
@vinabenedicto7983 5 лет назад
I had stroke last year
@a_squuared7530
@a_squuared7530 2 года назад
Get this angel in a med bed asap, boys.
@deezball2
@deezball2 4 года назад
My daughter and my husband they have a stroke daughter have half body I'm from cal san Francisco
@johnyepthomi892
@johnyepthomi892 4 года назад
She didn't deserve this.... I just... No...
@juangil9347
@juangil9347 6 лет назад
Im having my opiment on 2nd for inr ifkoridathey work miracles let see if it works for me i suffer a stroke in june 2016 my left side is very affected cant walk or move my hand i just hope this new treatment works for me
@kelleyjerred8032
@kelleyjerred8032 2 года назад
I had a stroke dec 2 not even a month ago. Ugh
@ms2canplay
@ms2canplay 5 лет назад
Hay Kati, how s our princess going today? I'm sure that your fans have falling in love with you Just as I have You are always on our minds Love you always One of your fans Always
@iamthefuss934
@iamthefuss934 5 лет назад
Fans? Rly? I mean makes sense but there r fans?
@jeyachandranramasamy5996
@jeyachandranramasamy5996 4 года назад
Fasting will help you...Hope you know tanglewood wellness centre in Costa Rica and Dr. Sebi please watch his videos..... I am from India and Aurvedic massages will support you recovery..... Please please do water fasting.... I am recovering from my left side stork by fasting and oil massage...
@ConestogaCreek
@ConestogaCreek 5 лет назад
Can she feel sensation in her body? If he touch her hand can she feel it?
@henningvanderhoeven
@henningvanderhoeven 5 лет назад
all Kati's senses work perfectly and so does her muscles, it is just that the messages from her brain to her muscles to make them move do not go through.
@ConestogaCreek
@ConestogaCreek 5 лет назад
Henning van der Hoeven - thanks for the reply. Thank God she has him to oversee things. He could tell from her eyes if she was in discomfort whereas someone else might not.
@henningvanderhoeven
@henningvanderhoeven 5 лет назад
@@ConestogaCreek Kati was very nervous during the presentation and you can see it in her face.
@ConestogaCreek
@ConestogaCreek 5 лет назад
Henning van der Hoeven - yes you are right. It was powerful words being spoken. God bless her.
@ultraboombean
@ultraboombean 4 года назад
@@henningvanderhoeven I hope one day they can figure out a way to bridge the gap between the brain and the body. It is like the neurons cannot fire to say move move move.
@paulgoss6786
@paulgoss6786 2 года назад
i need free help, from stroke. the left side of my whole body is pins and needles! please!!!!
@ashsqx3246
@ashsqx3246 5 лет назад
but isnt stroke paralysis only temporary? ? why did she not recover like other stroke sufferers??
@user-py6td6kg5w
@user-py6td6kg5w 5 лет назад
Depends on the stroke, some people recover, some are paralyzed on one side, some are paralyzed everywhere.
@henningvanderhoeven
@henningvanderhoeven 5 лет назад
It is not stroke paralysis, it is Locked in syndrome and there is no to this day no specific treatment and Kati had the stroke in 1995
@HerselfProductions
@HerselfProductions 3 года назад
People do not always "recover" from a stroke. The brain damage is permanent; depending on what part of the brain is damaged, and how much, the patient may be able to regain some (or most) functions. It isn't possible for everyone.
@noneofurbusiness4821
@noneofurbusiness4821 4 года назад
😁💖💖
@sariryttylainen7729
@sariryttylainen7729 7 лет назад
uskomattoman viisas ja kaunis nainen 😍
@steveb0503
@steveb0503 5 лет назад
I give her ALL the credit in the world - the VERY FIRST message I would have spelled out would have been "Kill me!"
@rachelryan78
@rachelryan78 4 года назад
Is she in pain? Her face sometimes looks it
@henningvanderhoeven
@henningvanderhoeven 4 года назад
Kati is not in pain. She was nervous.
@rochelleligon7467
@rochelleligon7467 4 года назад
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