That's because in 1v1, you score as many point with a sword blow as with a takedown. In melees, there are no point, when you are down, you are out, and that's it.
I can't help but feel that the true medieval warriors who trained every day all day since they were kids would watch this and think they are all amateurs.
Yes. It was a sad day when people who worked for a living got enough free time and disposable income to take up hobbies. That meant that the privileged classes were no longer the only ones who could do things like this.
no shit. But they would appreciate that future generations have kept there way of fighting, or at least try to carry on their historical past in some perspective.
+Jay man "American Knight" is a figure of speech that juxtaposes elements that appear to be contradictory, an Oxymoron. There have never been knights in the americas, at least if you don't count Batman. This is a fantasy league which actually would be more accurate and fun if Team USA shows up in Darth Vader Armor with lightsabers. Anyway, I enjoy adults beating the shit out of each other for fun, so please go on.
+Jens Krause Oh, there are a lot of "knights" in America. Google Pennsic. We've been basically doing this since the 1970s. Also, your connection to a bunch of dudes from 700 years ago is barely less tenuous.
+ArchNME Knights where steel encasted state-of-the-art battlefield soldiers, well trained professionals using a horse on the way to work. "Knight" is furthermore a noble title bestowed on one with direct legal consequences. Are you sure that is somehow an appropriate description of "American Knights"? I'm sorry, I don't want to offend with my opion, I actually enjoy to watch these events. May I have a question for you: If you hear a good chinese Rock'n'Roll Band in China, would you just accept it as original? This is the awkward feeling I tried to comment on, really with no disrespect to anybody doing this kind of roleplay and sport.
Before you go into the comments complaining about how this isn't how medieval knights would fight in a real battle, think for a moment: Yes. You are right. That is not the intent of this sport. Buhurt is based off of medieval tournament books, primarily King Rene's Tournament Book, which provides the basic rule set that has been adapted for safety in the modern day. This is a reflection of medieval tournament fighting. It's not supposed to be how they would fight in an actual battle. That's never been what this sport set out to do. Get over it. These guys are exceptionally skilled at what they do. Before you bash them for their supposed lack of skill, go ahead and try this yourself. You'll find it's a lot harder than being an armchair warrior in RU-vid comments. Have some respect.
I love all the comments hating on the lack of technique as if we have any clue what good knight fighting technique was. There seems to have been from what I've read, lots of fighting for honor and entertainment in those days hence fighting each other in full plate armor w bladed weapons that are unlikely to kill one another. I would imagine that there weren't weapon regulations the same way that there are now in these tournaments and challenges so there may well have been large men w heavier swords that did rely more on strength and poise to smash the other person off balance and generally inflict so much discomfort and ringing of the ears and aching of the bones that the opponent would yield. Who's to say though, I'm just a guy commenting on RU-vid.
How do you join this sport, I've been getting back into studying medieval sword play and I've been wanting to put my knowledge to the test in real time combat.
@@aliteralflamingpileofgarba6236 HEMA and Bunurt are two very different things. As a fan of both, Buhurt is often far less technical than HEMA on average, and is more sport-like.
I don't see the point of 1v1 longsword if you can't stab, it take away so much possibilities. A lot of techeniques revolve around stabing after blade contact
+Praskful I guess the whole idea is to find a sport where you can fight in medieval armour. If the armour changes to a more practical alternative, it doesn't look like medieval fighting anymore and would lose a lot of it's appeal. Also not only are eyes a problem but the throat and neck as well. It appears as if you can't have both. If you want realistic medieval fighting arts you have to pratice alone, against a dummy or with very modern protection and bendable aluminum swords that won't 100% feel like real swords. If you want to fight in medieval armour, you have to find rules that limit the injury risk to a reasonable level.
If killing your opponent is a possibility, then yeah, prohibiting stabbing reduces possibilities. (Stabbing is the only effective technique for penetrating armor?) Because there is no threat of death, it is just two "blokes" whacking each other with strips of spring steel. Atleast in fencing the one being attacked is obliged to defend himself. It is kind of ridiculous when both swordsmen are violently hacking at each other without attempting to defend the other's attack.
The rules in this game could definitely be improved. Currently it gives too much advantage to people's physical weight. I think there should be some consideration on a point or elimination system. It would be expensive, but maybe within reason, to put pressure sensors over vital areas and say that a hard enough hit there results in "death". Depending how much money they want to put in, very realistic fighting could be possible, but the better question is whether fights that only last about 5 minutes and are mostly defensive like in real life would be interesting to watch. Its a balancing act of money, sport-fairness, and entertainment.
Spencer Bilodeau mh, i just can't see them apply any ususal HEMA technique here. i mean there are so many especially for fighting against armored opponents. nearly all of them just hack away freely.
+Spencer Bilodeau I don't think the longsword side of this is HEMA yes HEMA is an umbrella term that covers many things from antiquity clear up to WWII but as much fun as this is to watch (and its bad ass) its not historical fighting, at least not the longsword side of it. If anything this sport further adds to the misconception of huge knights in overly bulky and heavy armor swinging super heavy swords at each other with little to no skill. I have an HMB/ravencrest battle of the nations long sword and its more like an iron bar in sword form. The armor is often times 10 gage or more (that's thick!) and you do not chop your longsword at another mans full harness(this will only destroy your sword tire you out and get yourself killed) As far as the impact weapons go then ya that's about how it was done, more Abrazare and rondel fighting would be nice but I understand their safety concerns. Don't get me wrong I enjoy the hell out of participating and watching this sport but as far as the longsword goes this is complete rubbish. I would like to see them ether start half-swording and using real techniques or lose the the full harness and go strait to gambason longsword sparring. What do you think friend I would enjoy to here your rebuttal.
+Spencer Bilodeau (repost from below) I got sick of this argument on RU-vid and I went and trained with the UK Fed team for a weekend (I've been doing HEMA for about 8 years) Firstly, the guys that actually do this don't call it historical, and don't call it HEMA, and don't really give a fuck about historicity, they just enjoy clubbing the fuck out of each other in full armour with steel weapons. Secondly, while it's not really all that interesting to me from a HEMA perspective, I can say that having done it now, there is definitely some value in donning full plate harness and giving and receiving strikes with full force. Obviously you aren't practicing armoured fighting techniques, but there's a reason that some tourneys seem to have been organised on similar lines; it takes a lot of conditioning both physical and mental to get used to fighting in armour. Thirdly, this is way, way harder than it looks, and my main criticism of the sport now (those who do it refer to it as a sport, not a martial art) is that it's incredibly dangerous and only a matter of time before someone gets killed. That said, it's really fun and the guys I met through doing it are a great laugh, I advise anyone who's interested to give it a go before forming an opinion about it by watching RU-vid videos. I had to take two flights and four days off work to do this for a weekend. This is not HEMA, nobody that does it calls it HEMA, nobody that does HEMA and tried it would call it HEMA, you don't know what you're talking about.
+Jake Norman well said, and I agree, this sport is cool and you do learn allot in fighting with full harness, but ya not HEMA and we need more people like you to let that facts be known, cool HELL YA HEMA NO or in other terms (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡 @xxxx[{::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::> ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) NOOOOOO
The Belgian, Austrian, and Spanish fighters in particular showed a capable amount of skill and knowledge. The American fighter obviously puts little thought into his fighting and just makes me cringe.
I made a documentary about the US team that includes an extensive interview with the USA fighter here. I will post some bits of it on my channel so you can get a better idea of what's going on in his head.
Ahem! Québec has a frontier with NY, VT, NH and Maine... So he's not an European. Those fights are just for fun anyway. Don't take it all so seriously, eh? ;)
I know right? I always wondered about that, what American knights would look like if it was a medieval (and european of course) kingdom, and now I have an answer.
I'm glad to see someone from New England fighting because whenever I see someone from America they where the national colors and never anything else like the black and white collar.
New England is in America lol. Your comment would've made more sense if you had said you were glad someone from the US was fighting that wasn't wearing the national colors.
Anime Tatertot im sure its also hard to see in those helmets. And with the weight on your arms and legs and im sure your movements in general would be sluggish and inaccurate
They actually also used blunt weapons in tournaments back in the middle ages. Common sense if you think about it. What lord would want they're highly trained and expensive knights to die in a tournament instead of a war.
What's craziest about this stuff to me is the "refs" standing feet from the Knights wearing limited armor like they are totally safe. I get the fighters aren't necessarily that mobile. Just watched another 5 on 5 video. Insane lol. They need to have some small tower on the side of the battlefield where they can observe from and jump in if they need to. No way I would be on the inside of the wood
Usually the chainmail is under the helmet regardless of helmet, the chainmail part is called a chainmail coif (head part) and the neck part would be a chainmail gorget, the helmet is practical for vision and weight as well as a protected head which I think was worn by archers to deflect arrows.
This particular competition was a longsword competition. There are other competitions for maces, and, of course, there are the melees, in which you can use whatever weapon you want (within the rules). Check out the other videos on this channel and my channel to se more.
Absolutely not. That is what HEMA does, so these guys don't have to. This is more like an actual medieval tourney in which blunt weapons were used against armor and stabbing not allowed. In this sport points are scored for weapon strikes, knockdowns/takedowns, and disarms over three one-minute rounds. In such a sport, conditioning matters. If armor was good enough that you could fight all day, you have to be able and ready to fight all day. If you don;t have the conditioning to keep up the fight for three one-minute rounds, then you are not likely to win in this scenario, or in a real fight with someone of equal skill but superior conditions.
Why don't any of the polearm users sweep people off their feet? Seems like the only other way to utilize a pole if you can't poke or are facing an opponent much heavier than yourself.
The Salt Of Ages Opponent much heavier than yourself? Poke him in the face. In all seriousness though, I suggest you look at the german treatises/Codex....a lot of polearm use is hooking behind especially the knee and trying to sweep off the feet...however sweeping someone off their feet, not an easy task.
Like auto racing, a lot of it depends upon ythe condition and upkeep of your equipment. The best built, best kept-up armor leads to the fewest injuries. That being said, injuries happen. I tore my ACL. I have seen sprained ankles, broken and dislocated bones (hands particularly), even a concussion or two. But no deaths yet.
The swords are blunt but they are hard metal. I just joined a group of medieval fighters and it is really fun and exhausting when fighting with these weapons. We use hard plastic swords for practicing with little armor and when we have the full metal gear on, we use the metal swords. Hopefully this helps
Yes and no. If your sword is off balanced, you can expend too much energy on the swing. Back in the day the shape also changed things. If a sword had a narrow blade with a solid taper, you could slide that into your enemy's armour and bleed him. Here that is less of an issue.