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IMDb Top 250 is a Lie 

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Link to the Letterboxd list of films missing from IMDb's Top 250: letterboxd.com...
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IMDb’s Top 250 rated films is a staple list of the best movies for casual movie-goers and film enthusiasts alike.
But what if I told you that IMDb’s list is all a lie (kind of).
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@xx99Username99xx
@xx99Username99xx Год назад
I'm not trying to be contrarian here, but, like, it should be intuitively obvious that they'd have a minimum threshold. They can't just stick a movie only one person has seen at #1 because that one person gave it a 10. There has to be a threshold of some sort to keep the list from being student films seen solely by their own directors, and whatever number they choose is necessarily going to be somewhat arbitrary. You decrease the minimum threshold, and sure some good movies are going to make the list that otherwise wouldn't, but only by kicking off some (presumably also pretty good) movies that already are on the list. You can't have 289 movies on your top 250 list. Some quick googling is showing me 9 million users for Letterboxd vs. 83 million for IMDB as of last year, so IMDB having 5x the minimum threshold seems reasonable enough to me.
@pittbull
@pittbull 4 месяца назад
You're also overlooking the fact, which completely undermines his entire analysis, that ratings always decline as they accumulate. The movies he mentions are unlikely to maintain their ratings once they exceed 100,000 votes. Therefore, it would be entirely misplaced to include them on the same list as other movies that have the same rating but a million votes. A rating of 8.3 based on 20,000 votes is not the same as a rating of 8.3 subjected to a million votes. The stupidity in this video is astronomical.
@ryanmpfeiffer
@ryanmpfeiffer 5 дней назад
I was on board until you used the phrase "some quick googling".
@robertmarginean164
@robertmarginean164 Год назад
I honestly don't think 25k is too high. I mean, there are movies on that list with over a million ratings, so you can't really put those on the same list as a movie with like 5k ratings. In addition, there is an IMDb list that doesn't account for the number of ratings, which you can pretty easily find
@Mr.Goodkat
@Mr.Goodkat Год назад
How do I find that?
@pittbull
@pittbull 4 месяца назад
You're also overlooking the fact, which completely undermines his entire analysis, that ratings always decline as they accumulate. The movies he mentions are unlikely to maintain their ratings once they exceed 100,000 votes. Therefore, it would be entirely misplaced to include them on the same list as other movies that have the same rating but a million votes. A rating of 8.3 based on 20,000 votes is not the same as a rating of 8.3 subjected to a million votes. The stupidity in this video is astronomical.
@hurricaneofcats
@hurricaneofcats Год назад
Interesting that both Green Book and Moonlight focus on racial topics and both show the greatest disparities. I know that Moonlight was very critically lauded for its complex portrayal while Green Book... Not quite as much.
@sanelino3069
@sanelino3069 Год назад
I watched both movies and remember not liking Moonlight for how boring I find it but enjoying Green Book a lot. So I guess I am more like the IMDb community 😅
@anether
@anether 8 месяцев назад
Apart from the threshold, IMDb uses a weighted rating formula to determine a movie's rating for the list. The more votes a movie has, the closer its weighted rating will be to its actual rating. The formula currently used isn't publicly available, but one can find the old one on IMDb's Wikipedia page.
@crossmaster77
@crossmaster77 Месяц назад
lmao the current weighted rating is basically a tool for IMDB to manipulate ratings for woke movies. That's why they are scared to reveal it, they act like the woke also didn't manipulate ratings
@ryanmpfeiffer
@ryanmpfeiffer 5 дней назад
I assumed they used some sort of algorithm that weighed views against ratings, like maybe one film isn't rated quite as high but has been rated higher by more people or something.
@raszze
@raszze Месяц назад
IMDb top 250 is much easier to watch than the Letterboxd list as it is much more easygoing while the Letterboxd list[ is much more artsy.
@onion1306
@onion1306 Год назад
Ngl it’s pretty sad how many films get done dirty by that 25k threshold. Good video
@janedoe3043
@janedoe3043 8 дней назад
I do think this is the best list we're going to get that has input from fans. It just bugs me to see popular movies listed above perfect films. And to see classics usurp movies that stood rhe test of time when we don't know if a film will be good even a few years later.
@Mr.Fridaynight
@Mr.Fridaynight 10 месяцев назад
Using Little Mermaid remake noooot a good example of review boming... the movie was bad and it bombed....
@danielom8446
@danielom8446 6 месяцев назад
It was bad, sure, but its score was also depressed by review bombing because of racists
@crossmaster77
@crossmaster77 Месяц назад
@@danielom8446 lmao no, that film is also review praised because of black supremacists celebrating black washing.
@manray1148
@manray1148 Месяц назад
No. I EXTREMELY DISAGREE. Why? Because this list is so damn good (I'm like about 10 movies left from completion), and I hope it doesn't change. Granted, the removal of Stalker and other russian movies are unjustified, but that doesn't matter because this list needs to exist for beginner movie-goers. This list is what got me into cinema and I've discovered SO MANY GOOD MOVIES through this list that even going through it gives me so much nostalgia and good memories. Let Letterboxd's List be for advanced cinema-goers, and IMDB for beginner-cinema-goers. IMDB's list should not have Satantango nor Jeanne Dielmann(despite being exceptional films). Also here are some EXTREME GEMS from IMDB 250(even tho 85% of this list is FIRE): 1. Best Years of Our Lives. 2. 3 Idiots. 3. A Seperation. 4. In the Name of the Father. 5. Unforgiven. 6. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri 7. La Haine 8. The Sound of Music 9. Amores Perros
@tbss42
@tbss42 11 месяцев назад
Interesting to compare with the Flickchart Top 250 as well.
@declanseefeld963
@declanseefeld963 10 месяцев назад
IMDb just has higher standards obviously with the higher threshold. You don’t want it to be the exact same as letterboxd, otherwise there’d be no difference between the lists! The lists are designed for different sorts of audiences
@apfelkuchen4399
@apfelkuchen4399 Год назад
I am curious about one question: Why 250 movies though? And not 100 as often used by other websites?
@danielom8446
@danielom8446 6 месяцев назад
There's a lot of great fucking movies
@arcanethink
@arcanethink 6 месяцев назад
Because 100 is too fking short when you're consider over a century worth of great movies.
@apfelkuchen4399
@apfelkuchen4399 6 месяцев назад
Ok, but 250 isn't?
@arcanethink
@arcanethink 6 месяцев назад
@@apfelkuchen4399 It isn't because you can see the ratings closing on the 7 star area by the end of the list.
@BlindGardener
@BlindGardener Год назад
I think the star rating system is outdated. I mean on IMDb why even have 1 to 3 stars, it all means the movie was terrible. And everybody judges differently what a 6 or 7 is. I think something in line like emojis that represen how you felt while watching a movie is more relatable and then in addition you can give it the badge of favourite movie or guilty pleasure. And then when you look for movies you can organise them by rating or by how many people marked them as favourite.
@sebastianmontano9979
@sebastianmontano9979 3 месяца назад
There actually is a list on Letterboxd like this, it's called "Official Top 250 Films with the Most Fans". La La Land is number one.
@ryanlazarus3381
@ryanlazarus3381 10 месяцев назад
Any list that doesn’t have “The Shawshank Redemption” as #1, is wrong.
@vitaliyhoncharov3349
@vitaliyhoncharov3349 9 месяцев назад
Agree.
@Gavrik_Korogodskiy
@Gavrik_Korogodskiy 8 месяцев назад
Overrated
@vitaliyhoncharov3349
@vitaliyhoncharov3349 8 месяцев назад
​@@Gavrik_Korogodskiyyour comment is overrated. Because The Shawshank Redemption is the greatest movie of all time.
@Gavrik_Korogodskiy
@Gavrik_Korogodskiy 8 месяцев назад
@@vitaliyhoncharov3349 7 stars is more than enough for it. So naive and simple. But for crowd it's 10 for sure.
@vitaliyhoncharov3349
@vitaliyhoncharov3349 8 месяцев назад
@@Gavrik_Korogodskiy 😂😂😂. Nice joke.
@flangalvin5368
@flangalvin5368 2 месяца назад
what's up with the women directors comparison
@arcanethink
@arcanethink 6 месяцев назад
Why is 25k minimum ratings too much ? Also why are you pointing to the fact that letterbox has more women directed movies in its toplist? Does that somehow make them better movies? I thought this was a best movies list not a buzzfeed article. Your video reeks of being sponsored by letterbox.
@thepop-culturediscussion6495
@thepop-culturediscussion6495 4 месяца назад
I always wondered about this! Thank you so much for making a video about it.
@alimfuzzy
@alimfuzzy 8 месяцев назад
Im going to compare a generalized movie review site vs. a film snob website... they arent exactly the same.. so it must be wrong! 😂
@thunderb4stard80
@thunderb4stard80 6 месяцев назад
I knew about the threshold but maybe its just because im one of the regular voters. Ill try get some of these into the viewer threshold😂
@rolandkloka
@rolandkloka 10 месяцев назад
Found your channel... Great videos
@charlieboardman2005
@charlieboardman2005 4 месяца назад
Rate your music has the best list of films
@travelz698
@travelz698 8 месяцев назад
Their list sucks. Titanic, the fugitive, little miss sunshine, gone with the wind, fiddle on the roof among many great movies not on the list that should be. I can't remember seeing field of dreams there either. Shit list. How the hell is Spiderman at 28 too, that's way too high on the list
@Maitatron
@Maitatron 8 месяцев назад
Titanic comes from far, at one moment it was rated 6.5 on imdb between 2000-2010, now it is 7.9, so Titanic had a kind of redemption on IMDB and now we know that this movie has passed the test of time as an undisputed classic of cinema.
@Thomas.deNorth
@Thomas.deNorth 7 месяцев назад
IMDB top 250 has become a bit silly. Lawrence Of Arabia on no 100 and Spider-Man on no 31. 😂😂😂
@Pvt-Lenny
@Pvt-Lenny 11 месяцев назад
When a show is pure trash deserving of negative votes it is not "review bombing" . Thats just the natural rating for the show. The fact that they try to label it as some sort of coordinated hate thing is laughable. I mean is anyone on the planet dumb enough to think rings of power is a legit 7.0 show?
@vitaliyhoncharov3349
@vitaliyhoncharov3349 8 месяцев назад
I think letterboxd list is fake.)
@Nehimsupacac
@Nehimsupacac Год назад
Great to know!
@skynetintex5878
@skynetintex5878 5 месяцев назад
Title says 'is a lie' then within 25 seconds of the video, then says 'well, partially a lie'. More clickbait BS.
@davebaconusa1062
@davebaconusa1062 10 месяцев назад
Next you’re going to tell us that Rotten Tomatoes’ reviews are faked 😅
@Choopytrags
@Choopytrags 11 месяцев назад
The greatest commercial for Letterbox ever done. Bravo.
@toycanon
@toycanon 3 месяца назад
@xx99Username99xx wow and I thought my user name was complicated. Anyway this user is correct. You need some reasonable number of votes to be in the IMDB top 1000 never mind the top 250.
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