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Nah it’s crazy that Pat was like “oh yeah apparently he DM’ed me years ago tryna sell his marketing services and he paid me to react to his songs” and Dontai is like “damn Imma check if he DM’ed me” and he actually did 😂
So you can't have the same feeling? That's like saying if someone wants a ticket for a movie and someone ask the same one you think they just following them
@@FallenJoker_ His fan base really do dick ride him ngl. I watched a meme compilation video and when the music videos came on at the end everyone was clowning it, but when dontai said it was good most of them switched their "opinion" just like that.
@@Juzzzer it is people are being slow... BRO IN HIS MOST FAMOUS VIDEO he even says hes capping but atleast hes honest about it. Also he does actually have ops now with all of nottis ops since hes really close to them now (this isnt directly meant to you more just people who see this)
I feel the same way, I think it’s weird that people want artists to really do the crimes or make songs off things they have done. No other genre holds these standards tbh
@@oscarpanuco7160t depends. on one hand, fans actually want their artists to get into crime/altercations for entertainment value and on the other some viewers would prefer some legitimacy when consuming media by either having the art be removed, adjusted to be more accurate to the individual artist, or be more transparent to viewers by heavily implying that creative freedom was taken. Also no genre holds those standards because hip hop has always been an explicit genre to the point that you can call it transparent in a sense; rappers in the early days were respected for rapping about their criminal lifestyles in an original way, *but using others lyrics and flow while pretending to be someone you’re not is considered “biting” and makes you a fraud. every other genre has even had covers for decades but that’s a relatively new concept in rap . *Edit: changed while to but
@@oscarpanuco7160it’s not that they want them to be doing the crimes…. But if you’re talking about a certain life it’s kind of expected that you know, lived it. It’s just weird to talk about a lifestyle you don’t or can’t partake in. That’s why there flex rap and there’s gangster rap, and etc. There’s so many different lanes and categories to choose from that covey a lifestyle… so why lie and make up one? The reasonMabu is just under the flame rn because it’s drill/gangster music, we don’t see teca rapping about poppin somebody’s lid and he’s a cap artist.
Nah it’s corny watching someone act gangster when in real life they aren’t. For a lot of rappers that actually live that life, it’s not just entertainment. So blurring the lines with some corny rich daddy’s boi white kid, it’s cringe. I don’t care if kid can rhyme well, Mabu is cringe for portraying a fake life.
As a black person, in the know, you look at this and appreciate the openness about it just being tolerant, but you know there’s an extra layer. Specifically because it’s DRILL rap he’s promoting.
@@OTB2002 Fuck he gon rap about frat parties, his rich dad, his private school? nobody's going to view/listen that shit. Even if his music is "cap rap" his music is still getting plays, so he must be doing something right. Yeah he's not really bout that life, but it's a smart way to get ahead in the music industry. Work smarter your mindset is on the wrong track lmfao.
@@thouxandbandnoro yes, also he’s experienced a lot of shit because of his money and he’s traveled to a lot of places so why can he just talk about that shit, you don’t need to talk about gang shit to be a good rapper lol. Cap rap isn’t sustainable
@@OTB2002 Why do you care about it so much? It's better to not be a gangster why would you rather all the things they say to be real? This world is so fucked honestly.
this actually made me respect him more bro had a hustlers mentality sense he was like 12 that's crazy. he could have easily been a lazy spoiled rich kid.
@amarithedancer it is pretty inspirational how he plays yall. Bro fake af and he'll still sell. Exposing rap culture while making millions > going to jail from being a "real one"
It's weird how music is the only medium where it's "weird" to "fake" art, yet we watch countless movies, tv shows, games re-enacting real-related life events both in the name of fiction and non-fiction. I get how it can come across as corny heavy fronting, but it's a massive double standard. "Narcos is literally re-enacting real life related crimes and deaths where people actually grew up in cartels and had trauma, it's so fucked up they're not even about that life; they're actors. Imagine a person involved really living that life sees the content". I don't ever see people say that shit lol. Why? We "romanticize" gang life on tv shows; Top Boy? Or even cartels as I said earlier; Narcos? Have yall never seen the gruesome ways people lose their lives to cartels? We glorify this life, let's stop lying to ourselves. Idk this just feels like one big joke where we wanna cherry-pick and target only specific kinda people in the industry for being "fake". If these artists cared about Mabu profiting off the "street life persona", they just wouldn't collab with him. Right? But yet they still do. He's giving them exposure the same way they give him exposure. It's a mutual transaction. The day where we hold every artist, regardless of ethnicity on their "realness" is the day I'll take this shit seriously. Until then, I just see it as people hating on Mabu for not being Black ngl.
a song is more comparable to a documentary than a fiction movie, if someone completely lies about their life on a documentary than some people will think it’s pretty weird
@@shawni.7138 You know documentaries can still be unauthentic and involve actors right? It's a replication. The point I'm making is that we tend to make the argument of "trauma" here for American gang-related violence, yet ignore the traumas off actual mafias, cartels, etc and the profits in these fields too. We glorify this kind of life; whether it be street gangs, cartels, or mafias in the entertainment industry. Our society is full of hypocrites. I knew Mabu was not "on it" after viewing his persona. He makes it obvious. I feel like when it is obvious, it's not that big of a deal. It's a different story if the artists puts on heavy fronting. Anybody mad at him honestly is just annoyed that a White boy beat the system better than most rappers. Regardless if he has money or not; plenty of people got money and cannot succeed in this industry.
@@shawni.7138no it isn’t a documentary, there are countless rappers who tell a story or create fake personas in order to tell a fabricated story so music is like any type of movie
@@Saintdidntdoit wtf are you even trying to say with this bro? You're legit ignoring every point in the comment and focusing on a common figure of speech, trying to make it into something else, WHY???
What I find more corny is that people try to trash on mabu for doing this and acting like more than half of the rappers don't do this exact thing and aren't about that life either. Their favorite rappers probably never was apart of any of this, same goes with a lot of mainstream artists yet they rap about the same subjects nonstop..
@@-j1-_-j171 Maybe you should go do something Instead of scrolling. This is a RU-vid comment section mfs are going to scroll down and talk especially if they bored.
i feel this newer wave of rapping is good caring about status is what gets a lot of rappers killed the fact that we’re moving away from the trend of having to be a gangster to rap is honestly a net positive we still get the music that is good to listen to, the people who actually been through the stuff they rap about still got their space and we know who they are but it’s not something you’ll as often get shot down for not having gone through something or being a gangster
I love Patrick CC but the Ja Morant comparison is really stupid. Ja gains nothing from being a fake gangster whilst Mabu does make money and fame off it. That's ALMOST like comparing a actor that plays a gangster in a show to ja morant. With that being said still a really good video from Patrick and reaction from Dontai. Also I am really indifferent about Mabu because I really just don't care about or listen to him tbh.
But lil mabu is going to have money regardless. His parents takes care of him. He doesn’t need the money. He’s doing it just for clout. And it’s working. Ja doesn’t need to either. He already made the league.
@@IHateMaL well I do believe he is making good money of it and long term he could out do his parents when it comes to wealth but even regardless of that at least he gets clout out of it that he wants. Ja only looses.
Why’s everyone going through so much trouble to point out that he’s capping in his music? Like that’s gonna stop him from dropping what majority of people listening to rap are gonna be drawn to anyway no matter who’s saying it as long as it sounds good.
@@9rebel9blood9All rappers say they're about it. He's doing what the industry demands of him, so what's the issue? If he went around in interviews going "Yea guys actually I think gangbanging is horrific and should be shunned from wider society" then you could say he's a huge hypocrite and mad corny. He's selling an image, a character, just like any other mainstream rapper. If you don't want people like Mabu to exist and get clout, stop encouraging it by consuming other big time rapper's music who aren't really about it.
I feel like making music not being about that life and listening to music when you are not about that life carries the same energy so I dont really care as long as he makes some good music.
@@damn51 so movies aren't scripted and written about a made up story and filmed to entertain the public? like there aren't existing movies about gang activity etc, acted by people who were born with a happy family and millions to their name? right.
@@reetoowan music is or atleast was way more personal than acting in movies because it's your song you're making. As an actor you're just playing a role in someone elses story
@@bbckprd6816 but the thing is not all music is personal, you dont neccessarily write or direct the songs/videos the way u personally see or want to be seen in the world. you just analyze what people wanna see and deliver. you can see plenty of artists have a whole different personality irl than in social media. some people just create riskier/more controversial personas for the "content" and publicity.
We have this false connotation that only mfs from the hood can be terrible people. You don’t have to be from the hood to be a bad person😂 just like the white guy from that movie lemonade mouth. He was a Disney kid and now he just got out of prison on robbery charges.
Rick Ross literally got famous and rich for doing pretty much exactly what Lil Mabu is doing rn. Way I see it, if the music sound good the music sound good. Everyone caps in their music on some level, I'll listen to whatever sounds good. Yes there's some level of realism that matters, but why is it my problem what music others make? I tried to keep my music true to my life when I was doing my thing, but it's not my problem what others are doing. I'm gonna enjoy the music purely based on the music itself, not necessarily the realism of the content.
@@esque7091don’t do that and obviously somebody listening to him because he’s living in a big ass mansion sitting on a throne of money with a reputation that make him skip the lines you’re waiting on. Don’t be a hater
I don't agree about having any kind of problem with mabu in specific. this culture with romanticizing gangs and violence is a problem in general, to me it just seems extremely strange this little kid gets on the mic and raps about "being about it" and he blows up because that is what our culture feeds; it is a never ending cycle. our community has many talents and we don't need to be shoehorned into a space where the only way to make it out is by perpetuating the reason we have to "make it out" in the first place.
Twitch chat really said "monetising peoples traumas" you mean like almost any movie in existence which is made by actors who alot of the time haven't lived through what they portray, before anyone says "that's different they are actors" so is mabu... we all know that
To be honest I just wish the best for the artist and enjoy the music. This race and worrying about fake gangster shit is so unnecessary and stupid. Its honestly better if their not since a real gangster since that means they are living a better life. Internet is so corny
But he's making money off of the struggles that real people who are in the hood go through everyday by making the image of an gangster while being a person who comes from wealthy parents and who has had a pretty privileged life. I hope you get how that's pretty iffy y'know? But I do get where you're coming from he makes good music I don't think that should stop you from listening listen if u want but don't be so quick to dismiss the convo by calling it corny or stupid👍
anyone who gets pressed about mabu acting like a gangster should start getting pressed at actors for acting as soldiers, poor people etc despite being rich
Y’all don’t even get that the people who really go through this shit , losing friends, constantly looking over your shoulder, and all the struggle that come wit it while Mabu had everything handed to him and only wants to project this image because it’s “cool and trendy” without any of the consequences of it
I understand this point of view but Lil Durk and other drill rappers who actually live that life and face jail time for living that life are facing consequences for their actions. So faking it is clearly more beneficial. Plus they literally collabing with him, if a person who is living that life isn't mad at him, why are civilians and fans mad?
@@justaw2982 nigga idgaf about how an artist feels, I’m a black man from section 8 who lost mfs from gun violence and a family with generations of trauma, last thing anyone need is more artists pushing this bullshit for money especially when he doesn’t have to. Morals and money are important. A person like me should rap how he does but considering I have to actually work for my future with a higher risk of instability and lower chances of opportunities it’s not smart for me whether it was real or fake. Say I did want to rap like he is, he already overshadows us commons already struggling. All in all it’s morally wrong to justify capitalizing on others traumas for money but to each their own
@@justaw2982 and any mfs that allowed or approved only did so because they got a bag from him (his father) Just selling out basically n them mfs for that personally don’t have my respect. Many struggling kids can’t afford that quick shortcut of an opportunity but would kill for the chance, instead we’re gonna see Mabu the kid who had every option and chose the negatives for what? Fame, Money, Views? Morals are funny
idc if mabu isnt about that life .his bars are hard ,and his shiz slaps ....now i wouldnt call that braindead .i think you should be able to differentiate between the art and the artist .you can always like one and hate the other .if anyone has a problem with what you say ,people will speak up and there will be consequences ,just gotta be ready to face em
please understand gavin magnus 6 million every platform is on the up rise and he was a hard 14 year old rapper working iwth hit boy dababy and many others now hes more pop punk. he doesnt front. please review him.
@@r.i.c.otherapper5730How is it not the same thing, there are thousands of actual veterans who saw friends die in front of them and have come back to literally nothing cause the government doesn’t give a shit about most soldiers. They could actually use the money, yet every major male actor has at least one war movie under their belt meanwhile they have never been in the army. Where’s the difference.
@@cyborgboy9854 because one is an Actor playing a role in a movie with fictional characters or real characters played my different people. An actors job is to act like a certain person. A rappers job is to rap about Wtv they wanna rap about, people like Mabu choose to rap about this lifestyle they don’t live when they don’t have to. All because its mainstream
People talking about rapping about trauma that didn’t happen need to stop because u know dang well 90% of the people listening to rap aren’t getting sad or being sympathetic nor are the rappers looking for sympathy. They’re looking for money and most listeners are just tying to hear some shit that makes them hype. Most rap songs are listened to and the reaction is usually about it sounding good and singing along about the crimes. There are songs that aren’t rap that are about the sad life and for that you could make the argument but let’s not pretend that rap is some legit story’s every single time that isn’t exaggerated and that it isn’t for the money. No one’s listening and talking about men’s mental health or ptsd
The thing is, plenty of other rappers arent actually what they rap about. But only yt rappers get hella flak for it. I think the difference is he's quite literally the OPPOSITE of what he raps about. I luv his music but he's still cosplaying so idk how to feel
Yo whoever jerms__ is in the chat. You switch up real fast. 13:29 mans went from “not it’s not” to “TRUE” “FAXXX” 😂 twitch chat filled with little yes men that can’t think for themselves.
Rappers that talk about their pain also flex about causing pain to others and romanticize trauma. Also how does dontai follow separate art from the artist but care about authenticity?
? Do you not realize the discussion here? I feel like you are assuming a lot about me just to complain I the comments…if I remember correctly I said I liked his music my guy…doesn’t make what he’s doing less weird…
Yes Mabu is cringe for rapping about stuff he never lived, but at least it sounds good. Whats more cringe is people who are saying he SHOULD live that life to rap about it. Tf are you smoking to say to someone to throw their entire life away and sell drugs to make music around it...?
it's actually insane the amount of people in the chat saying "i guess we should cancel actors" as if it's even comparable? do you think actors are writing their own characters for the shows and movies they're casted in? the reason there is room to criticize mabu and other rappers who use gang aesthetics as a tool for promotion is because they're purposefully leaning into it to garner attention, they profit off of gang activity while not having to face the repercussions of being involved in it. imo the big difference between a movie or show depicting these acts is that they're inherently fictionalized, there's nobody in the audience truly believing that the actors in the story are actually committing these crimes.
Either way I don’t listen to the kid🤷🏾♂️ I just see him pop up in my feed. But the thing is the consumers of hip hop is overwhelmingly starting to become pretty much just mabu clones so ofc this is the byproduct. 1 culture vulture, and two I don’t think anyone understands the impact music and celebrities have overall. To have never come from that and glorify it and pump that venom back into the communities. But hey who cares, that shit is hard. (But let be clear, hip hop was hijacked way b4 mabu)
I’m sorry but I disagree with allot he said in this. People listen to music for different reasons. To some people music is life and to others it can be just listening to something while hanging out or exercising. The people who take music a little more seriously try to push what they believe to the people who “don’t really care”. Things is people who “don’t really care” don’t care what anyone listen to but the people who “do care” call the people who “don’t care” “brain dead”-Imdontai
