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IMI 223 vs IMI 5.56 vs Federal 5.56 

Paul Harrell
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Paul tests three different types of ammo in his AR15.
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@PaulHarrell
@PaulHarrell 3 года назад
The rifle I used was a Colt AR15A2 chambered in 5.56 Nato with a 1/7 twist.
@t10god
@t10god 3 года назад
I recall you referring to it as your "M16A2" platform in previous videos. This video it is an AR15A2. Why is that?
@tmartin3151
@tmartin3151 3 года назад
On your last .223 accuracy test you almost drilled a bumble bee. I thought that was impressive even though you probably had no idea it was there. Keep up the great work!
@Seth9809
@Seth9809 3 года назад
That's a rough twist rate for 55 grain.
@daviddiebold7357
@daviddiebold7357 3 года назад
The difference I find is often on the box. .223 rem will have 24” barrel velocity and 5.56mm NATO will have a 16” or 20” barrel velocity. Not always. Some also seem to be loaded for NATO new or m4 chamber with the .226“ and more freebore. And some seem set up for 5.56 a1 .2245” and original freebore which is closer to .223 rem specs. ( so much confusion available)
@figtreeprophecy
@figtreeprophecy 3 года назад
The reloader would want the heads, brass, powder, primer and chamber specs to determine differences in the bullets. That would be quite a task to undertake on a windy day out on the range! Then again with the pockets in Pauls shooting jacket....:))
@joshuabessire9169
@joshuabessire9169 3 года назад
If you zoom in on that bee, you'll see it was smoking a cigarette, then it wasn't.
@tnoutlaw73
@tnoutlaw73 3 года назад
that is the best comment i have ever read lol. i loved it. and it was true!!
@jonnporter6081
@jonnporter6081 3 года назад
Was the failure to knock the ashes off without hitting the cigarette the ammo or Paul?
@joshuabessire9169
@joshuabessire9169 3 года назад
@@jonnporter6081 Paul. Smoking is bad for your teeth, and he was making a point.
@wsg4847
@wsg4847 3 года назад
The bee survived, but it'll never reproduce.
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 3 года назад
If you zoom in even closer you’ll see he shit himself too
@privateer454
@privateer454 3 года назад
You have to appreciate someone who has 600k plus subs without shilling for anyone, getting handed guns, ammo, or optics, doesn't blow stuff up or act a fool. None of the usual stuff that drives clicks. That is entertaining at times, don't get me wrong, but the fact that Paul is where he is by providing entertaining and informative content without BS or clickbait, is truly awesome. I mean, he makes chronograph testing enjoyable for goodness sake. He should have 1M plus subs though, so let's get out there and get spreading the word and share.
@TNaizel
@TNaizel 3 года назад
@Bulla Crustulum You don't trust Gun Jesus?
@andrewallason4530
@andrewallason4530 3 года назад
@@TNaizel yeah, In gun Jesus I Trust, but it’s a different circumstance. I trust Ian for amazing, encyclopaedic knowledge of (mostly) historical firearms, their designers and manufacture, quirks and foibles. I truly trust Paul for unbiased, experienced, knowledgeable, fun instruction on firearm and ammunition safety, use, comparisons and general life instructions. The two men, and their channels complement each other beautifully.
@johngalt2506
@johngalt2506 3 года назад
@@andrewallason4530 well put. The only 2 channels I watch regularly.
@Cautionary_Tale_Harris
@Cautionary_Tale_Harris 3 года назад
I like Paul's videos for the same reason I like Project Farm: The testing is usually very thorough and you can watch how they reach their conclusions.
@Cautionary_Tale_Harris
@Cautionary_Tale_Harris 3 года назад
@@andrewallason4530 Yeah, Ian is very good at breaking down the information.
@A-Negative
@A-Negative 3 года назад
Paul: “Today we are going to compare two boxes of the exact same ammo to each other.” Me: “hell ya, Im in”
@1Lo1L
@1Lo1L 3 года назад
And we're gonna shoot em all
@jeffreyleonard7210
@jeffreyleonard7210 3 года назад
And then do it again!
@ab5olut3zero95
@ab5olut3zero95 3 года назад
You had my interest, but now you have my attention.
@Ranxerox1911A1
@Ranxerox1911A1 3 года назад
😂😂😂
@danielanson3882
@danielanson3882 2 года назад
Step one: read out numbers. Me: AWW HELL YEAH!
@Lawraven
@Lawraven 3 года назад
Had to drop what I was doing and watch the newest video! I can get married some other day.
@farklefuster6876
@farklefuster6876 3 года назад
Yeah, I postponed my funeral so that I could watch the video.
@DANO-4899
@DANO-4899 3 года назад
If she's really "the one", she will totally understand.
@gregb6469
@gregb6469 3 года назад
@@DANO-4899 -- If she's really 'the one' she will want to watch also!
@DANO-4899
@DANO-4899 3 года назад
@@gregb6469 good point.
@Salieri47
@Salieri47 3 года назад
Does she have ammo?
@AmadeusAbacus
@AmadeusAbacus 3 года назад
That fly at 9:03 was feeling lucky. HOLY HELL THE BEE AT 10:07 NEARLY SAW GOD.
@Crxcket
@Crxcket 3 года назад
Few seconds away from liveleak
@williamsxd2004
@williamsxd2004 3 года назад
That was close lol
@jaynecobb3701
@jaynecobb3701 3 года назад
@@williamsxd2004 So close he beed himself.
@terrycostakis6284
@terrycostakis6284 3 года назад
That fly was no dummy. He knew he was safe sitting outside the 9 ring.
@LUR1FAX
@LUR1FAX 3 года назад
@What About the Groid Attack on the Whities? Don't shoot bees :( Asian giant hornets are open season, though!
@jerrylong381
@jerrylong381 3 года назад
"That low shot was just me, I couldn't help shooting the stinger off that bumble bee." "He'll be feeling that in the morning."
@rushedandlost
@rushedandlost 3 года назад
Paul Harrell, is someone you could have a conversation with about anything, in a calm, polite, informative manner, and feel good about the whole discussion. A rarity in todays times.
@theldun1
@theldun1 3 года назад
That bumble bee almost got nailed on that last low shot. LMAO!
@Pondo1221
@Pondo1221 3 года назад
He survived, but he'll never sting anyone again.
@Jonathan906
@Jonathan906 3 года назад
I had to rewind to be sure that I had seen what I thought I had seen. That's one lucky bumble bee.
@michaelgoding1477
@michaelgoding1477 3 года назад
Paul let the bee live
@OTOss8
@OTOss8 3 года назад
8:49 little sky buddy playing a *dangerous* game. Nopes out in time, fly away sky buddy. Fly away. 10:05 Bumble Buddy comes in to help make fruit and honey. Bumble buddy comes within a whisker of vanishing in a puff of pollen. Fly away Bumble Buddy. Fly away.
@kingelvis7035
@kingelvis7035 3 года назад
Hahahahahahahahaha!
@pbp6741
@pbp6741 3 года назад
{applause}
@wireman4029
@wireman4029 3 года назад
The air moving around the bullet probably pushed the bee out of the way.... otherwise it would have hit him🤣
@jasonwcoleman250
@jasonwcoleman250 3 года назад
I gone done commenting on the first bee just in time to see the second one, that sucker almost bought the farm!
@ManetInAEternum
@ManetInAEternum 3 года назад
Right! I saw that as well.... I'm pretty sure that bumblebee bow has PTSD 😂😂
@HumbertoSqualavarez42069
@HumbertoSqualavarez42069 3 года назад
10:07 Paul almost shoots the nuts off a honey bee at 100yds
@joemo1033
@joemo1033 3 года назад
Did...in fact...remove just the bee's nuts.
@tweekFPV
@tweekFPV 3 года назад
😆👍👍
@redlock4004
@redlock4004 3 года назад
Paul wanted to show mercy so he only shot one ball off.
@snuffygrunt2842
@snuffygrunt2842 3 года назад
Back at the hive: "Pour me another one, Buzz." "Make it a tall one."
@ManetInAEternum
@ManetInAEternum 3 года назад
@Timothy Mckee I see you're a bee of culture as well 😂😂
@tombrown8800
@tombrown8800 3 года назад
Paul focusses the camera on the target then shoots from 200 yards away. Says it's only 100 so we don't feel so bad. Thanks Paul.
@LL-fi4rr
@LL-fi4rr 3 года назад
I have to be regularly tested by the federal government on my ability to instruct (for my job) and maintain an instructor certificate, and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Paul has completed at least one or two courses on human behavior, effective communication, the teaching process, and/or the learning process. Either that, or comments on RU-vid have turned him this way. His presentation style is extremely effective and mimics what the best and most successful instructors in my line of work do.
@PaulHarrell
@PaulHarrell 3 года назад
Thanks that means a lot. I had some VERY GOOD instructors at community college.
@onpsxmember
@onpsxmember 3 года назад
Don't let me lie but afaik Paul was an Instructor for a federal agency at some point.
@christingey5281
@christingey5281 3 года назад
Nice comment, but as an employee of the federal government, I am not sure those certificates mean much.
@LL-fi4rr
@LL-fi4rr 3 года назад
@@christingey5281 I can assure you that they do. 1) Without them, I’d go to jail for performing the tasks I perform at my job. I’d also be wasting the money of my clients, because the certifications I’m endorsing them for would be invalid, and would be caught by an independent examiner. 2) The standards I’m held to are consistent, publicly available, not based on my opinion, and are fair for every client. 3) The standards are based off of decades of studies that have resulted in a decrease of about 2,000 deaths per year, to less than 200.
@christingey5281
@christingey5281 3 года назад
@@LL-fi4rr I'm sorry if you took that the wrong way. I guess it is one thing to complain about and ridicule the federal government, but some things only the guv'ment can and should provide and it should be done right. Proper and effective instruction is needed and appreciated.
@bushido007
@bushido007 3 года назад
RU-vid should promote channels like this, not shadow ban them
@tombrown8800
@tombrown8800 3 года назад
That bee told his friends, "I ain't scared. I'm going to buzz the white part." Then he said to himself , " I did it & I'm out-a-here".
@terryboyer1342
@terryboyer1342 3 года назад
@Persona Non Grata Horse flies are too easy. I prefer no see ums for the greater challenge.
@wsg4847
@wsg4847 3 года назад
@@terryboyer1342 Personally, I consider anything bigger than a flea to be unworthy of shooting.
@TNASTY6688846993
@TNASTY6688846993 3 года назад
@@wsg4847 I only consider my rifles sighted in if I can headshot amoebas at 100 yards.
@wsg4847
@wsg4847 3 года назад
@@TNASTY6688846993 Do you aim for the left eye or the right eye?
@TNASTY6688846993
@TNASTY6688846993 3 года назад
@@wsg4847 yes
@OGSontar
@OGSontar 3 года назад
Those flies had no idea just how close they came to meeting their end. So, if you're reincarnated as a fly, just remember: When flying about Paul's range, stay out of the center of the target and you'll be fine. Probably.
@CM-ve1bz
@CM-ve1bz 3 года назад
Flyer would take on a whole new meaning. Sorry, I had to say it.
@DANO-4899
@DANO-4899 3 года назад
They're hanging around to see if he breaks out a meat target.
@alainerookkitsunev5605
@alainerookkitsunev5605 3 года назад
Paul was intentionally missing to avoid harming the flies.
@menlikegods363
@menlikegods363 3 года назад
Unless Paul's reviewing the Taurus Judge again for some reason. 😝🤣
@jamesg1367
@jamesg1367 3 года назад
Unless he's just being "me." Better idea: Stay well clear of the entire target.
@zadtheinhaler
@zadtheinhaler 3 года назад
10:07 That bee is one lucky bastard, I tell you what...
@farmerwayne1404
@farmerwayne1404 3 года назад
That 2nd bee just missed bee-ing hit.
@moderatemexicanamericanpat4904
@moderatemexicanamericanpat4904 3 года назад
Oof
@Chris-hq7nl
@Chris-hq7nl 3 года назад
Someone on the Internet: Asks a question Paul: I am going to do an intense scientific analysis of this.
@SouthpawZer0
@SouthpawZer0 3 года назад
I read that in Paul's voice.
@brinsonharris9816
@brinsonharris9816 3 года назад
Said Paul from a lake that time...
@myoptik3x103
@myoptik3x103 3 года назад
Aww, no meat target. Oh well it was still a thousand times better than any other gun-tuber video I’ve seen this week.
@harolde.lochleitnerjr.8006
@harolde.lochleitnerjr.8006 3 года назад
The meat target at 10:07 lol
@leefithian3704
@leefithian3704 3 года назад
Swipe right more often lol
@lonnieporter8566
@lonnieporter8566 3 года назад
Check out HRFUNK. He does some really good work.
@weirdshibainu
@weirdshibainu 3 года назад
I wish half the car review channels put in just half the amount of work reviewing cars as Paul does reviewing ammo.
@andrewdanvers308
@andrewdanvers308 3 года назад
Man, Paul has got some eagle vision reading that chrono. And I've always thought Federal Ammo was the good stuff.
@Bello..
@Bello.. 3 года назад
@Great White chronographs won't always agree with each other and altitude, pressure and temperature affect chronograph readings
@tackytrooper
@tackytrooper 3 года назад
@Great White It could also be manufacturers just being stingy with the powder during riot season.
@ClaíomhDClover
@ClaíomhDClover 3 года назад
how can u see that..
@alvaroasi
@alvaroasi 3 года назад
@@Bello.. I don't know where I heard this quote ... je je je...
@casualobserver3145
@casualobserver3145 3 года назад
The chrono is actually only 7-10 yds away. The wide angle of the camera lens makes it look much further.
@samuel61762
@samuel61762 3 года назад
I don't have this ammo. I don't even have a 5.56, but I would watch Paul talk about paint drying. So, here I am.
@onpsxmember
@onpsxmember 3 года назад
Here we're using Remington Chome-oxide Green on a red marten hair brush that fits my hand better. For some woodworm holes, we'll use our remarkable versatile but useless Taurus Judge with a .410 7/16oz bird shot load. I can't stress enough to stand close to the 8x10' picture to hit the frame. Now we'll let this dry for about...15 hours, so we'll go back to our dutch oven.
@svtirefire
@svtirefire 3 года назад
If you did have a 5.56, you wouldn't be able to buy ammo for it now anyway.
@shorttimer874
@shorttimer874 3 года назад
The Chieftain / Tank Jesus made that video a year or so ago... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jIPem1EMw2s.html
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 3 года назад
@Timothy Mckee Dont buy it. If nobody bought ammo for a month and stick the opportunits with too much stock the price would drop. But people will go on being stupid. So they can pay through the nose.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 3 года назад
@Timothy Mckee The people keeping your prices high right now are opportunistic resellers who have gotten into the supply chain. Quit buying from them and let the normal suppy chain take back over. If everybody refuses to buy it at the current price point, then the price will come down. Part of the supply and demand cycle. The manufacturers were making a profit at the old price point. They do not need the resellers to make money. But the resellers are preying on fear. To keep the prices up. While they mark up the ammo 200 or 300 percent. It is called PRICE GOUGING. If this were happening to food or gasoline during a disaster. People would turn them in. Instead there are far too many people living in fear. So if you like making some opportunistic azzhole rich because you are afraid keep paying.
@xxxlonewolf49
@xxxlonewolf49 3 года назад
Paul's track record means...he drops a video, it gets a like. Then I sit back, relax and enjoy being right.
@Lucas12v
@Lucas12v 3 года назад
I'm almost certain that both imi ammos would have annealed cases. The difference is that the 223 cases were polished after annealing.
@pbp6741
@pbp6741 3 года назад
I agree. The annealing is a military spec and the military is happy to see the evidence. The civilian market is more likely to view pretty ammo as a sign of quality and so the rounds are tumble polished.
@johnladd9885
@johnladd9885 3 года назад
I've never claimed to be a sharp shooter or a marksman but my 100yd groups never turn out like the federal group through irons ..
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 3 года назад
That’s because you’re not Paul Harrell. I wish I was as accurate at 25 yards as he is at 100 😂
@ironbomb6753
@ironbomb6753 3 года назад
@@dr.floridamanphd Paul is what you call "a professional". You shouldn't be trying this at home. 🤣👍
@tonyv8925
@tonyv8925 3 года назад
I can't even SEE the target at 100 yards! heheheh...myopic senior citizen...grin...Great video, Paul
@OhioCruffler
@OhioCruffler 3 года назад
BTW, the 223 ammo was heat treated just like the 5.56, it's just polished off in a tumbler after loading to remove the color bands. Looks better for the people who don't know any better.
@jimm244
@jimm244 3 года назад
I did not know this. Thanks.
@JoshBenware
@JoshBenware 3 года назад
Federal had very low deviation in speed from shot to shot. That probably also helped with consistency in accuracy.
@spudgamer6049
@spudgamer6049 2 года назад
Came here to make similar comment, see someone beat me to it.
@JoshBenware
@JoshBenware 2 года назад
@@spudgamer6049 great minds think alike! Cheers!
@dangerman007
@dangerman007 3 года назад
When Paul gives a positive ammo review, bet the farm none will be available for the next 3 months....
@gotsloco1810
@gotsloco1810 3 года назад
I find 223 and 5.56 to be so loud I don’t like being around them. I admire the modularity of the AR platform but have never had any desire to have one. I will also admit to only recently picked up any SLRs. Boy you can go through ammo. Given the current situation when I get out shooting I seem to take my cap and ball toys.
@scruggs6633
@scruggs6633 3 года назад
@@gotsloco1810 Need to double up on earpro with .223/5.56 usually. It is a small caliber round but at high pressure it makes a big bang.
@robertalford1321
@robertalford1321 3 года назад
That was the luckiest bee on earth. I'm pretty sure he's got a smooth spot on his rear end now.
@Just_here_for_fun
@Just_here_for_fun 3 года назад
All bees are female. At least the ones you see flying around in the wild.
@jonboy9734
@jonboy9734 3 года назад
@@Just_here_for_fun sexist
@leonardepstein4908
@leonardepstein4908 3 года назад
No insects were harmed in the making of this RU-vid.
@beetlefang
@beetlefang 3 года назад
Paul added, with a classic Shatneresque pause, 'I'm not sure why that bumblebee keeps circling my target.' As he covers his bullet holes with more skittles flavored stickers.
@99pppo
@99pppo 3 года назад
Every bottle neck cartridge case gets annealed in the manufacturing process. It is just simply required when brass is shaped so heavily as it work hardens. So the 5.56 ammo is not "heat treated" it is just that with civilian ammo the manufacturers tumble the cases or even the finished cartridges after the heat treating in order to make them look "pretty". This is not required in the military 5.56 standard and left out also in order to save costs. As far as I am aware it is even required for military ammo to look a bit dull so they aren't so shiny and reflective and cause sun glare.
@ilyakochurovsky5232
@ilyakochurovsky5232 3 года назад
Paul : " We don't debate difference between 5.56 and 223!" People in comments : " Ha .. but WE definitely will ! "
@cottonballs185
@cottonballs185 3 года назад
There is less free bore in a .223 Remington chamber, hence the bullet seating depth. Harrell was more accurate with the Federal ammunition because of the higher velocities, but neither the M193 nor XM193 are truly 5.56 NATO. Firing either in a (SAAMI) .223 Remington chamber would generate no more than 55,000 PSI, but doing the same with M855 (SS109) will lead to a spike of over 70,000 PSI
@maxpinson5002
@maxpinson5002 3 года назад
Personally, I've always liked peach pie a lot better than apple pie
@takingbacktoxic7898
@takingbacktoxic7898 3 года назад
@@cottonballs185 Not necessarily keep in mind that NATO and SAAMI psi readings are done differently, one is on the case the other is on the neck. If you measure both exactly the same (I have, cause I have the tool for it) the only difference is when comparing one powder to a different powder. Or one load to a different load. Otherwise there are no pressure difference. Unless you are shooting the NATO tracer round, .223 vs 5.56 isnt important. Some .223 loads will be higher pressure than 5.56 and some 5.56 loads will be higher pressure than .223, but most all will be within safety specs, unless the barrel itself is out of spec.
@cottonballs185
@cottonballs185 3 года назад
@@takingbacktoxic7898 The CIP measures chamber pressure differently, but 5.56 NATO chambers have more free bore
@SpaceGoatCoastToCoast
@SpaceGoatCoastToCoast 3 года назад
That bee does not know how lucky it is.....
@TheKentuckyPatriot
@TheKentuckyPatriot 3 года назад
After a long hard day I get to sit down in my recliner and watch a Paul Harrell video. This made my evening :-)
@kirkmooneyham
@kirkmooneyham 3 года назад
I would say that the .223 was seated a bit deeper for bolt-action rifles versus the 5.56mm being out further for semi-auto rifles. The 5.56mm rifles tend to have a longer leade to aid functionality versus the .223 rifles having a shorter leade to aid accuracy. Leade is the portion of the rifling that isn't fully rifled, it's sort of shallow. Shorter leade, the bullet engages a tiny bit quicker, and that aids accuracy. Longer leade, it engages a fraction slower, but in a semi-auto rifle, that little "jump" helps run ammo that might not be as consistent. And that's likely why IMI packaged those differently, for different market segments. I'm sure someone with a gunsmithing degree can explain it better, but that's my understanding of the difference.
@fivex4756
@fivex4756 3 года назад
A good start. Also bullet shape / longer overall length of some 556 jams bullet in 223 throat which can cause dangerous pressure spike .
@redline870
@redline870 3 года назад
Dude shot iron sights with that federal XM193 like a boss
@theophilhist6455
@theophilhist6455 3 года назад
Almost nailing that bee with the 223 was worth the price of admission for me at 10:08 ...Paul you're an amazing shot!
@DANO-4899
@DANO-4899 3 года назад
What timing! I was just watching the Thanksgiving special when notification for this popped up. Thanks Paul.
@seppijessup9563
@seppijessup9563 3 года назад
You have no idea how many arguments I have resolved with these videos. Thank you Paul keep up the good work.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 3 года назад
No chyt.
@ronaldjohnston7989
@ronaldjohnston7989 2 года назад
Superb video, as usual from you Paul...thank you.
@stormofsteel6980
@stormofsteel6980 2 года назад
Mr. Bee almost got a taste of Paul’s forbidden pasty flowers
@jasonpayne3937
@jasonpayne3937 3 года назад
As an instructor......Paul Harrell is without a doubt one of the sources of “actual “ no bias firearm information I have found. Great!!!
@iboopedyournose
@iboopedyournose 3 года назад
Impressive shooting as always Paul!
@77klinok
@77klinok 3 года назад
Thank for a great presentation and analysis!
@762x69
@762x69 3 года назад
Really cool comparison that I was thinking about but couldn’t find any good articles tackling the subject. I’m enjoying going through a few hundred of your videos while I’m off work for a few days. Cheers!
@terryschiller2625
@terryschiller2625 3 года назад
That low one was just me trying to hit that bee at one hundred yards! Paul frowns!
@Sultan-cf5wf
@Sultan-cf5wf 3 года назад
excellent content from Paul, as always.
@danielmaine45
@danielmaine45 3 года назад
Paul, thanks for the awesome videos! Also thanks for any viewers who helped procure ammunition for the testing in these interesting times.
@justice3188
@justice3188 3 года назад
Watching Paul on a Saturday, reading Paul on Sunday. Another straightforward video thank you Paul.
@jjoosneaphh
@jjoosneaphh 3 года назад
Just like a Marine, more questions than answers... seriously, enjoy your content Paul. New to shooting/ owning my 2 ND. So thankful for trainers/devotees/Patriots/regular (people my age/mentality) still teaching. Learning a great deal from your experience. I imagine you are/were one hell of a trainer. Thank you again for your service
@johnd4348
@johnd4348 3 года назад
Disappointed it was not raining. Just can't have a Paul video without rain or snow.
@Texas_Vril
@Texas_Vril 3 года назад
Thanks for making this one Brother. The IMI 556 is my main stock and it's been very consistent in all my years shooting with it.
@MiGallagher
@MiGallagher 3 года назад
Awesome, ty for the share Paul
@johnnywadd9918
@johnnywadd9918 3 года назад
If you would stop trying to kill the insects flying around the target you might get a tighter group. Hahaha
@jamesk370
@jamesk370 3 года назад
Suggestion for video topic: Selecting after market optics and sights. I think we would all like to hear what Paul has to say on the topic, and I can see it being done with not too much ammo usage (a good thing in a time of shortage).
@SeekerHead
@SeekerHead 3 года назад
I’ve never seen paul shoot with an optic on, that’s not his style. I also have never seen him talk about something he isn’t well experienced with that’s not his style either. in short i wouldn’t be too hopeful
@tc6818
@tc6818 3 года назад
Paul: "There's no replacement for shot placement" Paul: Shooting off-hand at 100 yards 5:45 Rumor has it, Paul is blacklisted from "Shoot Out the Star" and other carnival games involving guns.
@flightparamedic505
@flightparamedic505 3 года назад
Great video. Thanks Paul !
@_spacegoat_
@_spacegoat_ 3 года назад
I recently sighted in my AR pistol with the IMI stuff. Everyone claims it's better than the ammo from Lake City. It was more accurate than Armscor, (from a bench rest, 2.5" groups at 25 yards vs. 3-4 inches with the Armscor - not making any great claims about my marksmanship, btw) but I couldn't find any Federal to compare it to at the time (although I did find some afterward). Glad you did this video.
@jeffreyjadav9493
@jeffreyjadav9493 3 года назад
Yes I actually needed this review
@milehighgimpster
@milehighgimpster 3 года назад
Great information. Thanks for the video
@DaFroBroforeal
@DaFroBroforeal 3 года назад
Good, practical information. Thanks for sharing, Paul.
@georgiashooter3739
@georgiashooter3739 3 года назад
My more "budget" AR has never shot a group smaller than 3 MOA with any kind of ammo. Bought a bunch of IMI 77 gr in 2020 for a different rifle, shot some in my budget AR last week and it shot 3 different 5 shot groups at 1/2 MOA. Surprised the heck out of me
@MinimumSpeedOperator
@MinimumSpeedOperator 3 года назад
That is my exact experience as well
@boomerisadog3899
@boomerisadog3899 3 года назад
Does it have a 1 in 7 twist?
@warrenharrison9490
@warrenharrison9490 3 года назад
If it's 1/7 twist and carbine gas length 16" barrel 77 and 62 are better for that twist.
@georgiashooter3739
@georgiashooter3739 3 года назад
@@boomerisadog3899 yea but I've shot plenty of 69 gr and 73 he rounds and never had any good groups. I think I've shot Hornady black 77 gr thru that gun before too and no luck. So idk
@boomerisadog3899
@boomerisadog3899 3 года назад
@@georgiashooter3739 Maybe, the depth they set the projectile at just works well with the head space on your rifle?
@komitadjie
@komitadjie 3 года назад
Might also be worth noting that your A2 might simply prefer one loading over the other two. Swapping out the rifle might well turn in a different result with respect to which ammunition shot more accurately. Regardless, I'd be happy as heck to be able to drop a hundred-yard iron sight group that good with *any* ammo reliably. Thank you for the good presentation!
@spudgamer6049
@spudgamer6049 2 года назад
Would have been interesting to compare the bullet seat depth on the federal 5.56 to that on the IMI 5.56. If it were also longer than the .233 load, that might explain why both shot better in a 5.56 chamber than the .223 load.
@bobbymalcich63
@bobbymalcich63 3 года назад
thanks paul for the video and thank you for the 556 federal ammo. keep up the good work!!
@danielmacdonald8358
@danielmacdonald8358 2 года назад
I watched your video when it was first released and it definitely interested me in the IMI. I have sent bought quite a bit of 55gr 556 and I'm shooting it out of a 16in 556 1/8 twist rifle...I am so glad you made this video Paul, because it is a tack driver out of my rifle, it really does perform remarkably well. Thank you Paul I don't know if I would have ever bought in this ammo if it hadn't been for your video review.
@ditzydoo4378
@ditzydoo4378 3 года назад
Great video and observations of build between Mil-Spec and Commercial ammunition. Being your AR is of a 5.56mm chamber dimension, it will safely digest anything of these two types (.223/5.56) you care to put through it without issue other than accuracy differences you've shown here. However the differences between caliber designations only truly show when one attempts to fire a 5.56mm through a rifle chambered for .223 Remington. Because 5.56mm chambers are slightly larger, with a longer throat (runout) area between the chamber and bore. The 5.56mm ammunitions projectile Ogive is set farther forward than a typical .223 round. Inversely the chamber throat of a .223 Remington chambered gun will be slightly shorter. So when you place a 5.56mm into the .223 chamber the projectiles Ogive will contact the bore of the barrel before lock-up. And it is because of this that the pressure on firing will spike. This normally results in the primer being blown leaving a hole the size of the bolt faces firing pin hole in the primer. The piece of the blown primer will normally be blown backwards through the bolt face ending up lodged inside the bolt body. The effect of this damage is cumulative on the guns service life. The pressure of 55,000 PSI being vented back against the bolt face is like a blow-torch. This will result in severe erosion of the firing pin hole leading to the eventual need to replace the bolt itself (very expensive). Also the deposited primer pieces can and will cause malfunctions such as light strikes to primers. I base these observations on 42 years as a gunsmith, 12 of which was at Weatherby Inc. I have personally serviced well over 200 Weatherby .223 rifles for this very thing of blown primers because the owners were attempting to use, at that time cheaper surplus 5.56mm ammunition through their .223 rifles. The point begs repeating, shoot only the ammunition your firearm was made for.
@felsinferguson1125
@felsinferguson1125 3 года назад
@DitzyDoo Or just buy a rifle with a 5.56 or .223 Wylde chamber, and never need to worry about the (practically speaking) negligible difference between 5.56 and .223 :)
@ditzydoo4378
@ditzydoo4378 3 года назад
@@felsinferguson1125 exactly, which is why my rifle is .223 Wylde chambered to accommodate either without issue.
@James28R
@James28R 3 года назад
That's funny, because CZ say its safe to shoot 556 in any of their 223 chambered guns. But they only make the things right? Also funny that you cant buy separate 556 dies. If you reload its all meaningless anyway if you set your seat depth correctly. But stop over exaggerating the differences. In Europe they are all tested to the same pressure anyway.
@johnjanoscrat8000
@johnjanoscrat8000 3 года назад
Thank You, Sir, well said! Professional opinions/observations are always great to hear.
@ditzydoo4378
@ditzydoo4378 3 года назад
@@johnjanoscrat8000 thank you for your comment.
@kuro_b5978
@kuro_b5978 3 года назад
I was hoping Paul was going to say that 3082 is a lot more than 3081 with his trademark sense of humor just to tweak the comment commandos.
@etherjoe505
@etherjoe505 3 года назад
Nicely done sir
@clukinvar
@clukinvar 3 года назад
Thanks for making the IMI 223, IMI 5.56 and Federal 5.56 video.
@gophergarage
@gophergarage 3 года назад
Good Saturday just got better!!!!! Just got back from my FFL!!!
@Salieri47
@Salieri47 3 года назад
And did anything good come home with you?
@gophergarage
@gophergarage 3 года назад
@@Salieri47 Oh yes......
@trainsbangsandautomobiles824
@trainsbangsandautomobiles824 3 года назад
"We are not talking about 5.56mm vs .223"... But, umm, maybe, ummm *touching fingers together* can we, Papa?
@Sterlingcape
@Sterlingcape 3 года назад
Great video Paul
@michaelholm6347
@michaelholm6347 3 года назад
Thanks Paul!
@samb8996
@samb8996 3 года назад
Tedious chronograph testing to me is a very peaceful way to enjoy the day !
@joemo1033
@joemo1033 3 года назад
10:23 "And the one shot thats really low...that was just BEE!"
@kemoni221
@kemoni221 3 года назад
I love your videos mr. Harrell, some truly amazing and entertaining stuff. You keep the right amount of discipline where you don't spend time in the videos on useless crap, but you do throw in some things that are funny, especially for people who watched your videos for a long time. Keep up the great content!
@TheBuckschott
@TheBuckschott 3 года назад
love these comparisons
@jaynecobb3701
@jaynecobb3701 3 года назад
Did anyone else kinda expect to see some deer in the background?
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 3 года назад
Yes.
@felsinferguson1125
@felsinferguson1125 3 года назад
Whoohoo! New vid from Uncle Paul! Strap in and enjoy the ride! I'm betting on the Federal XM193 working better - let's find out! And as usual, worth the trip! That bumblebee had a death wish, didn't she? :) And as I thought, The XM193 comes out on top. I can live with that. (glances over at ammo-can full of Federal XM-193 and smiles)
@Mjk10957
@Mjk10957 3 года назад
Honestly you are one of favorite gun channels. Its so refreshing to watch a gun channel where you know your stuff. You know you know your stuff we know you your stuff instead some channels where the you tuber had no military training unlike your self however they played to many call of duty games watched to many films put a fancy assault vest and helmet on and think they are SAS or something.
@markp6062
@markp6062 3 года назад
As always, very informative, but I'm sure it will raise more questions than it answered. Thanks Mr. Harrell!
@yddishmcsquidish3904
@yddishmcsquidish3904 3 года назад
"tedious chronograph testing" lol that's our favorite part!!!
@bubbie3533
@bubbie3533 3 года назад
You and me both.
@tommylee2894
@tommylee2894 3 года назад
I would imagine waiting for a new iPhone model to drop for Apple crazies, is just like us fans of Paul Harrell waiting for a Paul Harrell video to drop.
@skullofserpent5727
@skullofserpent5727 3 года назад
Very helpful. Thank you
@SithLord2066
@SithLord2066 3 года назад
Paul reminds me of a guy named Greg, from the YT channel Greg's airplanes. Super knowledgeable, articulate and can talk for hours without boring you all the while teaching you stuff you thought you knew but didn't. Greg taught me more about WW2 fighters than I ever thought I would even care to know. Paul is kinda like the gun version of Greg.
@jonathangriffiths2499
@jonathangriffiths2499 3 года назад
Agreed . Both great channels
@thesmallestminorityisthein4045
@thesmallestminorityisthein4045 3 года назад
Good thing he isn't reviewing Winchester XM193. All four of my packs were shorted on ammo, he may not have been able to finish this video.
@jonkR96
@jonkR96 3 года назад
As in missing ammo?
@0oJoe
@0oJoe 3 года назад
Got a can of federal, was shorted 4. Do they not expect people to count their ammo, even if it's hundreds in the can?
@stefanmolnapor910
@stefanmolnapor910 3 года назад
Every time I buy Winchester ammo, no matter what the caliber, its crap, missing bullets, primers on sideways, just empty cases, I avoid their ammo at all costs
@tonyc223
@tonyc223 3 года назад
@@stefanmolnapor910 Empty cases?
@stefanmolnapor910
@stefanmolnapor910 3 года назад
@@tonyc223 yes, empty cases as in cases with no powder or projectile mixed in with regular ammo. That was about 10 years ago, and I haven't had one since, but I've had lots of problems since then with all calibers from them. Untill we come to this week, I picked up 5.56 62 grain green tip Winchester for .45 cent a round, while I haven't shot all 500 rounds yet, the first 40 have been flawless. So its taken me 20 years to finally get non problematic ammo from them. Only reason I bought it was because of price!
@daH4wk
@daH4wk 3 года назад
Hi Paul, just an idea for another video: I know you like the iron sights but can you do a comparison with different sights on the AR15? Iron sights vs Red Dot vs ACOG vs 1-8x Scope - accuracy and speed difference. Greetings from Austria :)
@specialperson170
@specialperson170 3 года назад
To be honest most of those have alot of variables as in if the sights are actually good quality sights or if there just cheap and the speed of on target shooting is mostly down to training with that particular rifle
@daH4wk
@daH4wk 3 года назад
@@specialperson170 I thought of a reasonable price / performance ratio. Using a 2000$ scope on a 1000$ rifle would be a bit excessive for most people. On the other side most 50$ red dot sights also cant be trusted.
@kenycharles8600
@kenycharles8600 3 года назад
Send him some 😆
@daH4wk
@daH4wk 3 года назад
@@kenycharles8600 I can send some money to his patreon if he makes the video, but tbh i dont think money is the issue here because he can sell the optics after testing. Stuff like Vortex optics has great resale value.
@tinezilla
@tinezilla 3 года назад
Great video....thank you 👏
@Kai33331
@Kai33331 3 года назад
thanks Paul!!
@mattmarzula
@mattmarzula 3 года назад
Damn it. I don't have time for this! I will make time...
@1248dl
@1248dl 3 года назад
As I understand, most bottlenecked ammunition is heat treated. Commercial ammunition is then polished. Military isn't polished as a cost savings measure.
@BillSmith-pp9sc
@BillSmith-pp9sc 3 года назад
It is my understanding that it isn't polished so that the annealing process is visible. The annealing softens the shoulders to help prevent splitting and the subsequent FTE. The military doesn't care about saving money.
@1248dl
@1248dl 3 года назад
@@BillSmith-pp9sc as a retired DoD engineer in contract oversight the idea that the military doesn't want to save money is ludicrous. Low bidder on a government contract is a common phenomenon.
@GeorgiaRidgerunner
@GeorgiaRidgerunner 3 года назад
I know I'm way off topic here but I'm happy and had to tell it I just ordered a gun that I've been wanting for about three years now It's the traditions kentucky rifle DIY kit
@hanuman3527
@hanuman3527 3 года назад
As always...great video. 😎
@Minoan1977
@Minoan1977 3 года назад
Will "Paul Harrel's book of Caveats" be released in time for Christmas?
@draganbalzic4493
@draganbalzic4493 3 года назад
That would be a great book if only he had the time to write it.
@mdd1963
@mdd1963 3 года назад
Is there yet a Paul Harrel video in existence without the word 'caveat' used at least once? (The phrase 'ad nauseum' is a close 2nd place!)
@MrWeezy312
@MrWeezy312 3 года назад
Finally here early, i bought a ruger mini 14 and need to learn all about 223 and 556
@zorro456
@zorro456 3 года назад
Technical details. 5.56 is loaded to higher pressures. Think + P .223.
@LYLEWOLD
@LYLEWOLD 3 года назад
I bought a Mini-14 Target model. That one specifically says 223. As far as I know, it's the only one to have that warning.
@r.l.royalljr.3905
@r.l.royalljr.3905 3 года назад
Go read zorro456's explanation, it was way better than mine.
@zorro456
@zorro456 3 года назад
@@r.l.royalljr.3905 The first difference is the higher pressure level of the 5.56 NATO cartridge which runs at approximately 58,000 psi. A 223 Remington is loaded to approximately 55,000 psi. The second and most important difference between the two is the fact that a 5.56 NATO chamber has a .125” longer throat. This allows approximately one more grain of powder to be loaded into a 5.56 NATO cartridge; this is what gives it higher performance than its 223 Remington cousin. The biggest problem with these differences is when firing a 5.56 NATO cartridge in a rifle chambered for 223 Rem. Due to the longer throat that the NATO chamber employs this combination will cause a 223 chambered weapon to run at approximately 65,000 psi or more. This is 10,000 psi higher than the 223’s normal functioning pressure of 55,000 psi. This is NOT safe and will cause primers to back out, or worse, cause harm to the operator, the rifle, or both.
@James28R
@James28R 3 года назад
​@@zorro456In Europe, the 223 is tested to the same pressure as 556, due to not having a separate entry. Lapua 223 and 556 brass are the same (both listed on the same box) You cant buy separate reloading dies for 556. If anything 556 chambers are just looser than 223 ones to account for battlefield conditions where dirt ingress etc could be an issue. everyone says that your gun will blow up, but noone has any proof, ever. CZ states all their 223 will shoot 556 just fine, tested to the same pressure. But what does a gun manufacturer know.. right?
@Chipuav
@Chipuav 3 года назад
Keep it up, Paul. Love your videos.
@BigBosley
@BigBosley 3 года назад
Thanks Paul.
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