What is a good beginner book or resource ( besides the course of course ) to learn small infantry movement from a tactical position? Thanks as always love the content!
Great question. Now, allow me to ask you a sincere question...would you describe yourself as (a) uninitiated in small unit tactical patrols, (b) a journeyman with a modest amount of experience, or (c) very experienced but in need of a solid reference? Your answer will shape my answer. That way I don't waste your time with recommendations that are either way below your current level, or way over your head. Yeah?
@@fredhermstein3004 I was in Charlie Company 3rd Platoon. SSG Warner Platoon Sgt. I was 60 Gunner and DM on the DMZ. Feb 89 to Jan 90. The new Barracks by the river.
Large scale know ur back stop.... how well do u know the basics? Special Operations have mastered basics and have good equipment, they're not magicians although they're great warriors
Same process in summer of 87. A month at Collier, followed by 2 months of rotating days on/off for patrols, QRF duty and manning the gate. The gate was more boring than Collier.
You displayed a photo of a squad wearing Tiger Stripe uniforms early in the video. I was under the impression, from those whom I know to be associated with the Korean conflict, that Korea was more or less a temperate mountainous region. I associate Tiger Stripe with being effective in dense foliage of tropical environments, to include it's current adoption by many South East Asian militaries. Would these teams have been wearing these uniforms for their efficacy or merely for their place as camoflage over plain OD when in a time after Duck Hunt and before ERDL/Woodland?
Good question. First let me say that, at least until the now-obsolete digital ABU issued by the US Air Force, the Tiger Stripe uniform was never official US military issue. Instead, it was procured by units for special issue. And yes, in the late 1960s and early 1970s multiple different units procured Tiger Stripe uniforms for patrolling inside the Korean DMZ. Why? There are multiple possible reasons - unit esprit de corps, a more effective camouflage, and to differentiate friendly forces from the enemy's ODG/Duck camouflage uniforms as worn by North Korean People's Army. Was the Tiger Stripe pattern developed for the tropics? Yes, and no. I depends on which "origin story" you believe. The most plausible story I've heard was that a North Vietnamese officer designed the original pattern from an evergreen forest near his home. That would explain the design of light greens piled onto black shadows. This origin story suggests that the original Tiger Stripes design was intended for coniferous forests - and not necessarily the jungle tropics! Coniferous forests can be found in most operating environments including equatorial tropics, temperate zones, mountains, as well as boreal forests of the arctic tundra. Next time you're visiting an evergreen forest, try a Tiger Stripe uniform. You'll disappear!
@@christopherlarsen7788 Thank you for the reply. I had not heard that story about the original of the Tiger Stripe pattern before. I simply operated under the notion that it was generated through an attempt to darken and increase the disruption of the French TAP 47 Lizard pattern. Funny though, through my wargaming in the pines of New England I had come to adopt a Tiger Stripe top with Partizan Autumn trousers for concealment. I am, however, testing it again under both conditions of dirt and distress to see if the bold black keeps disruption where other patterns grey/brown out and whether it is significantly detectable under NODs with the inclusion of large black elements.
What about The MACE team? I was Scout Platoon attached to 5th of 20th. In 89 we had a spot south on our first ambush night after hearing 2 loud explosions while getting orders from battalion commander. MACE was activated as we were ordered to bypass our checkpoints and go directly to our ambush sight infiltration Alley and MACE would flush the enemy into our ambush.
Absolutely. The MACE team was the QRF - Quick Reaction Force. When I was there, no one called it the QRF. We all called that force the MACE team. To be honest, I cannot remember what the acronym MACE stood for. I remember they were mounted on jeeps and trucks. Mobile Action Combat Extraction?
@@christopherlarsen7788 yes, QRF and MACE was Mobile Accusation Counter Penetration Element made up of 4 humvees with 50 cals and Tow middles. I'm glad we didn't get any friendly fire because we trained for every scenerio except for what went down that night. Thank you for sharing some memories
@@jonkinimaka3913 - Wait. Seriously? I was laughing...and then I thought, "Hold up. This is the US Army we're talking about." Missile Acquisition Counter Penetration Element. Huh. I would not have guessed that, especially since it spells MACPE. I found - Mission Adaptive Combat Environment (MACE), and Multi-static Active Capability Enhancement (MACE). Okay then. Missile Acquisition it is!
My 1st enlistment I was 12B at CP Giant 87-88 and my company installed ground sensors in the DMZ. So yeah there are sensors there but they don't always pick up all movement.
@@christopherlarsen7788 I watched your Imjin scout vids and enjoyed them alot. Brings me back to 19 yrs old stationed in the western corridor... did you ever get to go to ROK Ranger school in Uijonbu? Most PT I've ever done in my life!🤣... Like your channel..Peace, Ringo
Weapon Safety Rule #5 Know your target and what lies beyond. Often I am frightened by others lack of regard to weapon safety. All too often we see careless acts with weapons. I find it rare to find a person who has the courage to use a weapon, but even less common is the person who has a weapon but has the discipline to not use it. Thank you for another kick ass video.
I was doing all that planning for a company-size unit a long time ago there is more than you said but still an awesome video. Sometimes I hate that deciding who goes where recon, guarding, training, kitchen, etc.🤣🤣🤣 1987
let me know I could send you an original military map with the iron curtain back then in the cold war and also hand made map same location awesome video man
I was stationed in Caroll then humphreys 2018 to 2019. I heard of warrior base had 700$ a month cola. No idea if it's true or if the US still operates there. But this is an interesting look at what it was like. I visited usag yongsan seoul yesterday (sep 19 2023). Section of the main post including the embassy side, dragon hill hotel, old outdoor rec (now it's a gym), the pool, fire station is still intact. But across the street where the golf course and schools were have been engulfed by the city of seoul. The hospital (allbright) has been shut down since 2019 at least, now fenced off. I asked the gym staff (old door rec) on post why they built a new gym when the base is set to disappear or when the rest of usag yongsan will be demolished (he was a korean), he didn't know but said there a few soldiers still stationed there and the embassy staff are the ones that use the gym. The rest of the base has a lot of tall grass growing out the asphalt. Old building that have keep out signs, collecting dust, no one been in for years.
Kind of sad to see the old military bases in disrepair. But, life advances and...I suppose it's best if they can be put to good use for civilian needs. Peace was always the end state. $700 COLA for Warrior Base? Not when I was there! We didn't get danger pay or anything. It was just a duty expected of us, so we did it. We were volunteers, after all, and very proud of it. South Korea turned out for the best. I find it satisfying that I and so many of my family members played a small part in that success. You did, too, brother. Thank you for your service.
I was there in 74 and I was a scout. We had to go to scout school it was not just handed out. I was with the 1/17 Charlie Company (M) inf. We were the balls of the buffalo. We rotated in and out of the DMZ every 30 days. Our patrols were along any and all free fire zones. We were in direct contact all the time. The ROK's tiger and white horse divisions operated in our AO's. The 1/31 M inf stayed on the wrong side of the bridge I believe it was called back then Red Cloud? I spent long hours in Collier and Ouellet. When they tried assassinating President Pak missed him but killed his wife. We had been taken down to Seoul in support of the security. It was rocking back then. We were patrolling with the tigers when we came across the first tunnel under the border. They made us sign NDA's because the UN said the host nation was to receive the glory alone, we weren't there. They have changed now that we can talk about what happened that night of which company was there. It was C 1/17(M) And the tiger division. We witnessed the U.N. team that went into the tunnel even though we told them that it had not been cleared yet. They knew better until the 💥
I was assigned to 1/31st all of 1975. No 1/17th units rotated in/out during my tour. Our battalion accomplished all three DMZ missions, patrols, guard posts, and QRF for the entire year. As I recall 2ID planned to restart rotations of other combat units in March of ‘76 to man the guard posts.
