Hey guys just some additional information... always set the compressor regulator to the maximum pressure setting not what the tool manufacturer recommends. As air travels through the hose, pressure and Volume decrease due to friction. If you set the tank at 90psi by the time the air reaches the tool it might drop 20psi or so. Dont be afraid of over feeding the tool 👍
WOW WOW WOW! I've been looking for information like this for weeks! You just saved me hundreds of dollars on a compressor for our home. I only need one occasionally and I do want it to be able to run a ratchet. You very succinctly answered all my questions. Thanks
Drill- Packedge in typical box, came with a tool bag (added bonus), two batteries, one charger, drill, and driver. Two words "plenty of Torque" ru-vid.comUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv well I guess that's three. Nice upgrade from current setup. Has belt clips, I don't think I will be using those. Driver and drill were bigger than what I expected but it is an upgrade from the current setup. For the money I would say that this is a great setup for Professionals and DIY/Weekend warriors.
This is my third vid I’ve watched tonight, I was a little disappointed that a bigger and expensive air compressor was needed to run the air gun to remove the lug nut, but it looks like it works. Thank you!
In my experience, this will work. You won't necessarily get all the torque that the impact is capable of, but it'll [usually] get the job done. My father was a professional mechanic, and we used an old 6 gallon Montgomery Wards branded hot dog compressor for repairs done in our home's garage (of course he had a much bigger compressor in his shop). We did all sorts of repairs at home (engine/transmission rebuilds, front end work) all with a dinky 6 gallon compressor.
I'm an amateur just working on my own cars. I have the pancake for nail guns mostly. I figure on using the pancake for some impact wrenching, blowing air, filling tires, and other light duty stuff that a shade tree idiot might get into. What's the worst that can happen, I get out the breaker bar more often than someone who bought a 40 gallon tank? I'll live with it.
@@skullman0819 Hard to say. The cheap ones really vary in how much torque they promise vs what they deliver. The cheap ones (sub $150) on Amazon are a bit of a joke. I picked up a 20v 1/2 compact Hercules impact from Harbor Freight this month. The tool by itself was about $60, and I paired it with a 20v drill kit to get a battery and charger. I ended up with an amazing setup for less than $200 that took off an axle nut torqued down to 180+ pounds like it was nothing. It's also small enough that it fit almost anywhere around the front end of my Honda. All in all I like it better than my 6 gallon air compressor setup. It's stronger and makes way less noise.
Men this video is so informative, i have a 6 gallon tank in my house and wandering if i could run an air wrench on that. I appreciated you sharing this video to us. Thanks again.
I agree with your conclusions here. I've been using a similar 6 gal. Porter Cable pancake to run my IR 231C impact for many uses such as removing lug nuts, etc. Those little compressors will even run the HF purple HVLP paint sprayer fairly well. Not so great for running die grinder or cut-off wheels. For some reason, the comment I put on your previous vid got deleted. I mentioned that the HF impact gun you showed is very similar to the IR 231C. It is probably just as good and a lot cheaper.
I agree with you. Running a die grinder or cutoff wheel will work for very quick jobs, otherwise you’ll be waiting a while! Thanks for your feedback 🇺🇸🤘
Thanx for the upload. Just bought a 6 gallon tank and saw ppl said it worked for them as well. I think the cfm is powerful enough for an impact wrench considering ppl hand tighten their lug nuts with a socket or breaker bar
This test is exactly what i needed someone to do !! Wow! you wouldnt imagine all the reading ive been doing trying to find out if i could use a wrench or not with these sorts of compressors and everything talks about complicated technical mumbojumbo some even stating i need to have over 25% MORE cfm than tool states etc etc etc etc blablabla. Thank you so much for this video!
Thanks for that info, but for me I think I will grow in patient. Waiting for the air to build-up again, I'll be better off going for a bigger air compressor. And just get the job done and over with, but in a pinch I guessed that will come in handy. 👍🏼
Yeah, in my estimation its about time, its about consumption with any air tool. A small compressor is fine it just limits the time you can use the tool before the compressor has to cycle on to renew the volume in the tank 👍
@@jimmysgarage9068 i do a Fair amount of car painting and I used to think as some guys do that a low cfm rated compressor will make my spray gun spray poorly. The spray gun was say 12cfm rated while my compressor was 8.5cfm. that was dumb 😂 The actual issue was if I were to shoot an entire car as opposed to a panel like a fender the compressor wouldn't be able to supply the necessary air volume to the gun once tank pressure dropped below the 60psi threshold so I had listen 👂 as I sprayed so I could know when to pause and allow the compressor to refill the tank. The cfm rating of any air compressor is the pumps ability to supply air when the tank volume is low enough to cause the pump to cycle on. Obviously a smaller pump will create less volume/pressure than a larger one in a given time frame
SCFM stands for: Standard Cubic Feet per Minute, Standard means that this compressor can deliver this amount of air measured in Cubic Feet each 1 minute of time when operated @ STANDARD pressure and temperature conditions which are: P = 14.7 psi & T = 60 F.
They're soo much quieter than full-sized compressors. I worked with one that was soo loud it caused me to get aggressive. I hated that fn compressor so fn much that it has been 15 years since I last owned one. Now I own a tiny 6 liter Ryobi and it makes soo little noise. Most of the noise it produces is all vibrational. So what I do is I throw a couple of towels down at the bottom of my closet, which has a power outlet in it already. It's too convenient. I then run it in the closet with the doors closed on the pipe as to still be able to draw air into the closet but block out a LOT of the noise. With the windows closed and the doors closed nobody has to know that I'm airbrushing or blowing out my PC.
The problem is when you are not using the rated cfm for the tool you are not getting the full power capacity of that tool either. You are basically wasting money. If you don't need the power of the tool you can save money by buying lower cost tools with lower cfm requirements. However, I get the point of the video and you proved the point.
The cfm is what the pump itself can deliver, not the tank. So if your tool is 4cfm @ 90PSI and your pump is 2 cfm, you have full power till your pump can't keep up 90 PSI in the tank. The problem is that you won't be able to run it that long. If your pump is higher then the tool rating you can run it continuously. So it's not a downgrade in power, but run time.
@@DavidStrchldEXACTLY 👍 people think it means power or force but it's time/consumption ...A 1 gallon tank will provide the same power so to speak to the tool as a 60 gallon but you will not be able to run the tool as long with the smaller tank/pump combo. You'll have to stop and wait for the compressor to fill the tank back up. Spray guns require much more cfm because they "consume" more air than an impact it's basically a controlled leak 😂
I really wish youtubers that are educating viewers would give accurate/correct information. SCFM stands for "Standard Cubic Feet per Minute" which is CFM under standardized conditions (temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure).
Got an an air hammer the other day, have a small pancake compressor like yours. Diagrams that come with the tool would have me buy and set up an air filter, air regulator, and water separator. Is all this needed? Or can i just send it as is?
Send it! I’d oil the tool before each use and make sure to drain your tank after each use. The air/water separators are awesome when you’re in a humid climate, but not totally necessary.
Should I buy a retractable or coil hose for my small portable compressor? If I wanna do projects outside my mancave garage should I just buy a portable coil hose to use with compressor. I don't projects inside garage only outside garage
So, the larger hose will give you more air flow if you need more pressure. Coils generally max out at 90PSI. If you can swing it - get both. That way you have an easy setup in the garage and out. I hope that helps. 🤘🇺🇸
@Jimmy's Garage I have a critter Mason jar sprayer from amazon. Do u think a 1 or 2 gallon air compressor will work for this? I wanna do small painting projects and maybe in summer paint spray paint my kitchen cabinets too and air up tires and that's pretty much it
@@futbol1972 Check the air requirements of the tool. You may be able to use a 6-gallon in short bursts. Anything smaller than a 6 is for nailers/staplers. Small tanks simply cannot hold enough air for continuous use, even with powerful motors.
My 6 gallon Craftsman came with 1/4” hose. Looking to get the Ingersoll Rand 1207Max 3/8 Ratchet. Do I need to get 3/8 hose? Is 50 feet too long? Thanks for the video.
Yes, I used my old 6-gallon HF machine years ago to remove an axle nut. Look into the Fortress 6-gallon machine - I have a full review of that. It’s a beast! 🇺🇸🤘
Why is it that when i set my air regulator to 90psi to use my impact gun, I press the trigger and the pressure drops below 90. Is that right?. Or do I need to set my regulator above 120 so when I pull the trigger it drops to 90 constantly?
Are you using a spiral hose? If so, swap it out for a bigger smooth hose. Those spirals are usually rated for 90PSI and can’t operate larger “air hungry” tools. If that’s not the case, make sure your tank is in good shape (always drain it) and make sure there aren’t any obstructions. Also, smaller machines are rated for lower CFM, hence the drop in pressure while using an impact. It won’t hurt anything to crank up the regulator a bit to get more power. I hope that helps 🤘🇺🇸
I have 6 gallon, but only gives me the torque under 100 fb..anything higher than 100 fb, it would move the lug nuts...my hose connector has a little bit leak, should not make too much difference...
@@jimmysgarage9068 just got a 15 gallon compressor, which gives me 150 fb torque...the diameter of hose is 3/8, bigger than you showed in the video...I wonder yours is so powerful, whereas I can't make it happen
3 gallons are kind of useless. They don’t produce enough air for pneumatic tools. 6-gallon is the smallest you’ll want for an impact wrench/impact socket.
Does it really mater if the air compressor kicks in or not when using an air impact? If the air compressor and air tool can do the job then that should be the main concern, not whether or not the air compressor needs to kick in while doing the job. Just buy an older oiled compressor for $100 as the older compressors have higher CFM ratings at 90 PSI than any garbage oil-less garbage air compressor today. 4 CFM @ 90 PSI is the bare minimum anyone should use to run air tools off a small portable 4 gallon air compressor.
@@jimmysgarage9068 Same here! I bought an older oiled Clarke 4 gallon air compressor that puts out 5 CFM @ 90 PSI. Cost me $100. Had to replace the plug end but that was $3.00. Now I have a great little air compressor that will do both my air tools and my framing nailers.
I’d preferr a 🖐 gLN tNk thO.. Y? cas I like that # beter(er). too bad they don’t make a compressor which can keep up the air pressure enuf to not need pauses - refills.. at which point - why a tNk at all?, & EvN if they did all that, it’s still UZng electric to run the compressor & whole setup. so what’s the point of even the compressor, etc.?.. hmnnn?🤔
