+Barnacules Nerdgasm Sorry man, you got that DiResta stamp in your passport. You'd get denied entry into Kanuckistan. But you can listen at the door and whack off like the King of Random. You get used to his muffled sobs.
I worked with a 90yo machinist years ago and he was able to make his drill press work as a reasonably accurate mill by building a ring with a set of three bearings that surrounded the chuck to give it extra lateral support - like a spindle support rest for wood lathe work. The plate was supported by a bar that had an adjustable mount on the side of the drill press.
this is fucking sorcery. i literally spent all day converting my drill press into a mill and then you posted this video. WHY CANT I LIKE MORE THAN ONCE
I tried to turn my cheapo drill press into a milling machine a few months ago. Ended up with a very sad drill press and spent thousands on "proper" machine tools which I have no real idea how to use. Now I'm addicted to buying all of the things that I didn't know I needed to run my mills and lathes. It's worse than crack cocaine boys. Heed my warning and stay off the slippery slope.
but at least you have the nice tools to fuck shit up with over and over. then when you figure it all out, you can sell it......lol half the fun is learning what not to do, tools last, the dope well its short lived, loved when he fired up the morse bit thinging majabob.. holy fuck thats bad, probly better of with just the jacobs chuck,,,,,, or when using the reamer,,,omg oh well lets just keep going and see if we trash the hole thing,,,, funny vid, i needed the laugh and yeah ive tried stuf like this,,,,,,,,,, i turned the crank shaft of a side shaft lawn mower engine to fit a clutch / gear pully for an old snow througher,,, put motor in vise, started it up and used a hand grinder to get close and a file to finish off,,,, hell i made a firing pin from a drill bit in a small drill press and used a file to cut it, both worked, and i didnt spend for a mill or lathe, though i would love to have them
+Will S., Machine shop tools may cost more than illicit drugs by weight, though used properly, are safer, and far less likely to put you in the grave. They are also objects of production, not products of destruction. I know where to put some of my discretionary funds!
What some people don't understand is like this: You can actually perform the necessary mill / lathe work with a friendly machinist's tools And then, you can also adapt your "inexpensive" drill press to also be used as a milling machine. My fav Gunsmith uses one of his best/ oldest drill presses in a pinch, (for simple / quick tasks), whenever the main milling machines are busy. Thank you for another Great video & God Bless!🙏🇺🇸
Bro, you are the only machinist I watch on YT. I’ve learned a ton and applied some of your tricks in my own setup. Believe it or not, I’ve used some of your methods in my carpentry, with flawless results. Keep the vids coming! Thanks for what you do.
Here's why I really love this channel. There are some fields where the "experts" seem to want to make the field seem as inaccessible as possible. People who want you to think that they're doing magic with electronics design, for example. But, it isn't magic. And you can totally just screw around with it and make cool stuff. A lot of guys look at machining like it's this crazy holy sacred fucking "do not breathe on those tools wrong" "can't do it unless your beard is this grey and your suspenders are this wide" thing, but it isn't. Basically: if old uncle dr professor bumblefuck over here can take a $12 aluminum (wat) chinese xy table, and have a good time with it, then anybody else can too. AVE: taking one for the team and just setting the bar so goddamn low that you can't even trip over it on your way to harbor freight.
I did this exact thing 3 years ago with reasonably good “success”. I went ahead and drilled the quill for a small drawbar and was able to use MT2 end mill holders. It left a lot to be desired but I was able to use it with some success. I’m happy to say I have a Bridgeport now and the drill press is in the wood shop doing what it should have been doing all along.
Have you ever needed a Crap-tacular milling machine but all you have in your shop is a cheap drill press, an lathe and a milling machine?!?!? well my good sir, you are in luck! I love your videos sir. That was in no way a dig at you. your videos are always entertaining and I have learned a lot from watching. You have inspired me to do things that I never would have otherwise. Thank you sir!
Have you ever needed a Crap-tacular *milling machine* but all you have in your shop is a cheap drill press, an lathe and a *milling machine* ?!?!? Do you feel the irony?
Those kind of videos are the best for young people who just started with fabricationing, machining, etc.: Funny, informative, and showing the actual process of making things without hiding failure. I imagine just gazing at a finished shiny prototype won't teach you that much. Thank you for making these videos, I definetly learned a shitton from them!
Always like a RU-vid guy who is not afraid to show "fails." Well done - now I know I can make my own AR receiver with a Harbor Freight drill press. (Maybe. . .)
You're my hero! I love how you do things that you know are totally bonkers wrong but still keep going. I started life as a Machinist / Fitter and have since become a pencil pushing engineer. You have restored my faith in humanity. I salute you!
Remove the Jacobs from the Morse and plunge the Morse down onto the drill bit and ream and you will know it is centered because it has machined itself. Use 2 extended length bits of smaller diameter and keep plunging the smaller one right up through the Morse and the quill. Then remove the Morse, install the larger extended length bit and plunge down to re-drill the quill out to a larger size that will accommodate a long bolt, tap the top of the Morse for that bolt's threads, and now you have a draw bar. Now replace the bearings with tapers and install pointed set screws just above the upper bearing so that when extended the points ramp against the upper edge of the upper bearing's outer race and hold the bearings in oppositional tension against the shaft. This will really help with run-out, but you are not done yet, you need to stabilize the Quill sleeve inside the head frame which you do by tapping 3 holes in the frame at the muzzle and the top, and install bolts with set nuts in each hole with a small pellet of Teflon or UHMW (or Delrin or whatever) as a sliding surface against the Quill sleeve, and you can now finely adjust and true out the quill sleeve within the frame. Replace the drive belt with a Harbor Freight segmented drive belt so it won't slip against a load. You need a coolant sprayer so put a Cat litter box under the table with an aquarium pump and run some tubing up to the head and down a length of coil flex tubing and cap the tubing with a reamed out irrigation dripper, fill the litter box with a couple inches of coolant and adjust the flex tubing to hold the dripper above whatever you are cutting. Now you have a baby Bridgeport for about $300, and it's a quite capable little mill for your investment. A very handy thing to have I can assure you. You can also make a nice little lathe out of a drill press mounted horizontally, but that is another post...
this is more what I was expecting him to do. he ended up doing all that work just to end up putting the bit in the chuck and buy a cross slide table haha
AvE, you're too much man! I'm with Barnacles. I must say I dig the shout outs between all of you guys, who I regularly watch. I don't need no stinkin cable!
well played... and for the record, you could easily be a writer for a comedy series with your normal adjectives and adverbs. keep doing what you're doing, there is no other quite like you and I say that in the best way possible
I am back on my drill press to light duty milling machine project. Just purchased a cast iron milling table for it on ebay. It cost $138 and weighs 66 pounds which is more than the 16 pounds? that the aluminum ones weigh. Will post a vid of it when it is done. The mass of the cast iron should help eliminate chatter. wont flex like the aluminum ones Some people overwork mill/drills and call them crap. They are less rigid... which means you take smaller cuts and not try to hog it out in just one pass. Takes longer with smaller cuts but it prevents vibrating or flexing the machine. Take your time and let the cutter do its job and not force it.
I'm in an epic battle with a sore throat, and I need some time to wake up before getting prepared for work. 11:15 resulted in a laugh, and the laugh resulted in a two minute painful bout of coughing. You're drillmill has brought pain upon the world. And I love it.
Pungo Machungie how are you going to make lead screws, quills, pulleys, shafts, knobs, bolts, tapers, etc on a mill? and yes, set up correctly you can make every single thing you just mentioned on a lathe.
you can mill on a lathe you can't lathe on a mill. OK small parts that the dimensions or finish doesn't matter maybe.... I not only know it's possible but I have milled lots of things on my lathe.
Came across this today looking for drill press tricks cuz I got a chineasium drill press from my step dad.... put a $2 capacitor on it and now I got a running chineasium drill press and wanted to mill wood.... I owe you a lunch, in your shop followed by pats on the backs. I really enjoyed your attitude about "I got an idea I wanna try" and the way you went about it. I got none of those tools, wish I had. The music selection, perfect! My imagination has you in private school, piano lessons, headed down your parents path of destruction when you suddenly said... I got an idea.... how about I do what I want.... and off you went. Thanks for this video, not that I will ever get around to implementing anything you did because I ... well ok maybe I will, somehow. But just listening to you work things out.. .. .. it was therapeutic. Thanks.
You should check out some of the older youtube videos of people milling 80% AR-15 FCG's with el-cheapo chinese drill presses. I've done it once and never will again. But it's possible. Never had the press loosen up in ~3 hours of milling.
I wish the router jig had been out 6 years ago. Pulling a loose jig around a stationary mill by hand wasn't exactly fun, but it did work. Especially plunging into the material holding the jig with one hand, lowering the mill with the other hand.
If you get a carbide bit spinning fast enough, they can mill aluminum with minimal effort. I chucked 2 flute carbide end mills into a Dremel just so I can remove some materials quickly (part was too big to fit into mill, and it was a part of the mill, meaning I need that part in it to mill anything at all!) Forget about precision here... general woodworking tolerance is about the best you can get here.
Thank you very kindly! Was planning a Bubba-mill myself but you saved me the embarresment, not really up to making replacement parts for percussion lock.....
I learned a lesson today. Not 100% sure what it is but i feel like i been schooled. My wife’s closet seems less complicated. All i need is a lathe and a milling machine and i can finally turn my bench press into a miller? It all makes sense now. this like the woman’s thought process. yeah?
lmfao Love the reaction to turning on the press with the new taper installed. Just a flat out "Holy Fuck" at the sight of the wobble. Although it is the Jacobs he is using if a person knows the limitations of the head then it could be made to work for a very long time doing extremely light passes. However you cannot expect any type of accuracy with something like that but it sure beats the poor man's mill (angle grinder). This is at the very least a step up from that and would suit most (mill for fun) people at home. And if for some reason the bearing blows out then replace it with a bearing designed to take side loads better and do like he is planning on and get a collet to hold the end mills. A very cheap solution for someone who can't afford to buy a mill but owns a drill press and needs to make a relatively straight cut. And I have seen folks cut side rails on a 1911 frame with a dremel mounted to wood and 3 cut off wheels. At least something like this would provide a bit more accuracy and end up with much better rail cuts.
For the crowd who wears both suspenders and a belt, you could use some Red Loc-Tite on your #2 Morse taper/quill junction. Just to make double-damn sure it stays put in the hole.
Appreciated the J.S Bach! I had similar thoughts about transforming a drill press into a milling machine but now will not bother-it'll never work so thanks for that little lesson.
I was always told never to try this because of the Morse taper issue. I have an old ShopSmith that uses a 5/8 arbor instead of the Morse taper to attach the Jacobs Chuck. Would this be a good candidate for small hobby milling operations? Love the video, you are both funny and educational 👍
As a guy that builds & races hobby-grade radio controlled offroad trucks, I've always wondered how possible this would be. A rig like this would be the cat's ass for making little parts out of stuff like polycarbonate, graphite, nylon, even aluminum if I needed it to. Thanks large for making this vidjayo, I might actually go out & start pricing out components for myself now :)
Yea the school metal shop heirarchy if you didn't mess up on the drill press you could eventually use the lathe (which was a boxford a lot like the one here) if you didn't mess up on the lathe you could eventually use the milling machine. BUT if you couldn't even use the drill press properly... WOODWORK
I am in the mechanical field as a powerhouse mechanic & machinist. Still somewhat young but I hope by the end of my career I have half the knowledge that you have accrued.
I gotta wonder - if you need both a lathe and milling machine in the first place to make this, why bother? Just to show it can be done? EDIT: Thank you for your answers, kind commenters, and for recognising that this was a genuine question, and not some kind of retort. Especially to those who gave a proper answer, rather than just "You don't get it, do you." I'm by no means a machinist, I'm a student of pixie-wrangling from little old England who only got his grubby mits on a grinder for the first time a couple of months ago. I come to these videos to learn, as well as have a laugh, and genuine answers are very much appreciated.
You don't need that, it was just to skip the waiting game for the collet chuck to arrive. order collet chuck and the x-y table and you're good to go... aand, also fix the drillpress TOT style, for that you only need simple tools: Mill, lathe and shaper..
His use of the lathe was the part that failed to center better then the Jacobs Chuck. He used a mill because he has one. Every one else that needs a flat spot on a round uses a grinder or file. I also think he could have used a drill press to make the hole he drilled with the lathe not so sure the reamer in a press is such a grand idea I would use a honing stone instead.
