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In Defense Of... Stagger Lee (Oilers @ Broncos - 1987 NFL Playoffs) 

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In the 1987 AFC divisional between the Houston Oilers and Denver Broncos, Oilers head coach Jerry Glanville called one of the most infamous plays in NFL history. The play, known as Stagger Lee, failed miserably, changed the momentum of the game, and was criticized by just about everyone afterwards. But when you break it down, Jerry Glanville's play call might not be as bad as you think
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@baugh3162
@baugh3162 3 года назад
Stagger Lee was Junk Yard Dog's masked alter ego
@robertpaige4505
@robertpaige4505 3 года назад
Stagger Lee was used by several wrestlers over the years. Koko Ware is the one I remember (He ddn't have the "B" yet).
@Theycallmekenney
@Theycallmekenney 3 года назад
Rozier didnt fumble often but how many times did they run "stagger lee" on the road deep in their own territory in the playoffs? probably never.....Rozier was not known for his hands to say the least.
@kevinmoore2929
@kevinmoore2929 3 года назад
I'm wondering if Rozier's USFL numbers were added in. Though he didn't fumble much in Pittsburgh, he seemed to start with Jacksonville where he played injured a lot.
@j.p.pelzman7481
@j.p.pelzman7481 3 года назад
Thanks for doing this. I swear, for some reason, I was thinking about this play yesterday. Really weird that you decided to do this today. Wow. I even looked at that live Lloyd Price video you showed a snippet of, hours before you posted this, I swear. The man still had the pipes a month shy of his 80th birthday. Kudos to him.
@Davepool-hs7vr
@Davepool-hs7vr Год назад
Hey Jg9, you need more divisional round games on your channel STAT
@classicrockbeagle
@classicrockbeagle 25 дней назад
Stagger Lee by Lloyd Price was not only a Number One hit in 1959, it was also the Classic Rock Beagle's Number One song of the 50's
@dr.roberts4508
@dr.roberts4508 2 года назад
Professional Wrestler Slyevster Ridder in( Junk Yard Dog) Tried out for Houston Oilers. But blew his knee. And one storyline that got pushed. Was Ridder as a masked Wrestler Stagger Lee
@tadhgbaucom-orlofsky4764
@tadhgbaucom-orlofsky4764 2 года назад
Please do an "in defense of the" seahawks throwing at the Goaline in superbowl XLIX
@johnstebbins24
@johnstebbins24 3 года назад
Halfway between a normal bubble screen and the planned Music City Miracle from scrimmage.
@troysiddle2032
@troysiddle2032 3 года назад
Mecklenburg (77 for Denver) flying into Rozier at the end prevents him from recovering it. How he isn't in the Hall of Fame is a mystery. For years there was debate as to who was better, him or Mike Singletary, yet one is a first ballot HOF and the other is snubbed completely.,
@chrisrobinson8339
@chrisrobinson8339 3 года назад
Should've gave that hat back
@diaz5292
@diaz5292 3 года назад
Rozier should have recovered the ball. You didn't mention that. It was right there. He had first shot at it. He has to make that recovery there. That was his real failure in that play.
@r.jackson7162
@r.jackson7162 2 года назад
The call was a good one they had the numbers where they wanted them. They run those screens now all the time anywhere on the field. BTW Moon would become good at the option play as the Oilers would run it more in the red zone. So it wasn't a bad play.
@Jason_Maier
@Jason_Maier Месяц назад
This play looks somewhat similar to the "Rocket Screen" play the Redskins tried (and failed) in another IDO video.
@dangeiger9796
@dangeiger9796 Год назад
Like many In Defense Of videos, the real problem is the execution not the decision
@deadend1041
@deadend1041 3 года назад
No way, just watched that 4 times in a row, if that ball is caught and everyone does their job number 75 is gonna drop him open field style for a 1 -2 yard gain. Those blockers make it really hard to miss the tackle and he is unblocked and in perfect possition. But I do agree it isn't that bad a call to send back play in.
@Video_depot
@Video_depot Год назад
Rozier catches the ball and turns it up to the sidelines #75 doesn't come within 5 yards of touching him. He is close because rozier is needing to jump back towards the middle of the field to try to recover the ball. There may have been a safety that could have gotten him out by the 30 yard line with a good pursuit angle but even that is debatable.
@InvaderKush
@InvaderKush 3 года назад
it's only a bad play if it doesn't work that time.
@doovie101
@doovie101 3 года назад
For crying out loud! CATCH THE BALL ROZIER!!!
@flowingafterglow629
@flowingafterglow629 3 года назад
I think the biggest question I have is, if it was designed as a run, why have the initial toss be backward as a lateral? I realize they wanted it to be quick, and in that way Rozier has to be back from the line, but you could put the QB in the shotgun. In that case, when he drops it, it is an incomplete pass. The only other reason to make it a lateral is to allow him to throw, but it doesn't appear that was his intention. So either Moon is in the gun, or takes an extra step back to make it a forward pass and the risk is changed.
@LoveLawWill
@LoveLawWill 3 года назад
My favorite version of the song is "Stacka Lee" as covered by Dave Van Ronk!! Love how these stories change with type time and telling!!!
@CONNECTELECTRIC
@CONNECTELECTRIC 3 года назад
I *Truly* thank you for the memories. Been a Die-hard Bronco fan since 1983 and this very game was intense at the time. We had to get to the Superbowl again following that devastating lost to New York in 1986. Well we all know the outcome with no thanks to the Washington R*dskins.
@scottconner7930
@scottconner7930 3 года назад
34 Years Ago
@BBall0027
@BBall0027 3 года назад
Honestly, I think it would have been fine if they ran it as a screen instead of a lateral.
@redmustangredmustang
@redmustangredmustang 3 года назад
Houston had no chance in this game. Elway was just ridiculously good at Mile High in the playoffs. Elway has lost twice in home playoff games. 1984 and 1996. That's it. Other that, the Broncos were nearly unstoppable at home.
@davidroberts7282
@davidroberts7282 3 года назад
Denver was probably the better overall team in this Divisional playoff game in 1987, but although Elway led a miraculous, "Drive II", 98-yard last-second FG win vs. these same Oilers in 1991, I still believe Houston was the better team in their nose classic, yet somewhat now forgotten postseason 1991 classic. That being stated, even if Oilers had beaten Denver and advanced to play the Bills next week in the AFCCG, they probably lose just like Denver did. Although late 80's-early 90's old Oilers run and shoot offense was one of the few AFC offenses that could keep up with Buffalo's K-Gun offense, Houston lacked the power rushing game and while the early 90's Oilers defenses had their fair share of hard-hitting, nasty Pro-Bowlers, how many of them ended up eventually in Canton? Ray Childress? Bubba Mcdowell? William Fuller? Sean Davis? Contrast this lack of representation to Buffalo's HOFers or perennial All-Pros: Darryl Talley, Bruce Smith, IMHO, Cornelius Bennett, Phil Hansen, later on, although he was a bit of a dirty, edgy player(Bryce Paup), Nate Odomes, Steve Tasker, etc.
@VinnieBoombatz374
@VinnieBoombatz374 3 года назад
@@davidroberts7282 Well the next year, the Oilers had the Bills beat in the Wild Card game, only to give up the greatest comeback ever. I give them a fair chance in 1991 AFC Championship if they got there, they seemed to match up well with the Bills in that era.
@charlesmak534
@charlesmak534 3 года назад
Wasn't Stagger Lee a small time rapper in the late 90s?
@Ragtime4
@Ragtime4 3 года назад
Seems like simply starting from the gun would have eliminated a lot of this play’s risk.
@freeparking301
@freeparking301 3 года назад
I was thinking the same thing. Turn that lateral into a forward pass and the risk is gone. Even if Moon drops back two more steps there’s no fumble just an incomplete pass.
@Ragtime4
@Ragtime4 3 года назад
@@freeparking301 There’s still some risk but at least a potential fumble would be eliminated completely. I’ve been watching a lot of Oilers football lately. Most / all of their playoff games from 87-93 are on youtube! Look forward to watching this one.
@freeparking301
@freeparking301 3 года назад
@@Ragtime4 You’re right because there was always a chance of a safety or fumble after the catch because the play was so convoluted to begin with and other things had to go right after the fact. Glanville was a lunatic that disregarded those things from time to time. I’ll have to check those games out too. The first football game I ever watched was when I was seven and got to witness a certain game involving the Oilers in Buffalo. One helluva first impression that had me wondering if all football games were like that. I grew up an Eagles fan which until 2017 felt like a curse my father passed down to me but watching that game left me with a sympathy towards Oilers fans which later became a hatred for Bud Adams.
@Ragtime4
@Ragtime4 3 года назад
@@freeparking301 Coach Glanville has always been a free spirit. He’s an idiot or a lunatic if you’ve got a conservative mindset and always want to do what everyone else is doing, or the status quo of “what works.” But he was also a free thinker willing to try things, and was probably fun for most of his guys to play for. In an era where black quarterbacks were just starting to become common, it should be no surprise that Coach Glanville would embrace Warren Moon and surround him with good people like Coach June Jones.
@freeparking301
@freeparking301 3 года назад
@@Ragtime4 So true! It was nice to see Warren getting the opportunity he deserved much sooner and with a coach that was willing to build around his talents. I enjoyed Glanville’s experimentation. The NFL needed someone like him to get where the game is today simply because someone had to try his concepts to see if they worked. It was fun to see him covered in the recent SB Nation/Jon Bois series on the Falcons as well. I especially enjoyed the part when they talked about his 1977 defensive scheme with the Gritz Blitz showing the younger generation there was more to him than just leaving tickets at will call for Elvis.
@TheSteveSteele
@TheSteveSteele 3 года назад
I was watching that game. The Oilers were going to lose. Total choke . But If Rozier cut that ball he would have scored though.But how he didn’t recover the ball? Jeez.
@robertpaige4505
@robertpaige4505 Год назад
When I think "Stagger Lee", I think a masked Koko Ware (He didn't have the "B" yet) in the Memphis territory.
@mgb4692
@mgb4692 Год назад
Or what Dusty Rhodes often called Lee Marshall in WCW
@jamesborski6860
@jamesborski6860 2 года назад
Stagger Lee is, as John McLane opined, the worst play call in Houston football history. Rozier actually had bad hands, and he was notorious for holding the ball out in one hand as he ran. That habit caused screaming at TV sets all over the Houston area on fall Sundays. Mr. Ball Security he was not. So, yes, Glanville was a moron for calling this play. But they didn't lose because of it. The Oilers lost because they couldn't cover anyone and let Elway riddle them at will. Even so, Stagger Lee was the first indication we had that the Glanville era would eventually implode in a haze of Elvis references and dumbassery.
@cameleyez
@cameleyez 3 года назад
There's no defense of this play. Terrible in every way. Game was early still, one of the dumbest play calls ever.
@DanielHerd
@DanielHerd 3 года назад
But this wasn't a fumble. It was a dropped pass. What were his reception numbers and how banged up /cold were his hands at that point in the game? But really it's not a bad play if you can execute. Thanks
@CTubeMan
@CTubeMan 3 года назад
OJG9 said it was the Oilers first possession, so unless Mike Rozier worked too hard in pregame warmups his hands shouldn’t have been too banged up.
@TheAlfrulz
@TheAlfrulz 3 года назад
There's an article where Rozier said afterwards "I just jammed my finger trying to catch the ball." www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-01-11-sp-23404-story.html%3f_amp=true Also if you look at this video link below, it has the full "Stagger Lee" sequence in full. After Rozier and the Oiler offense left the field, he was surrounded by trainers as he was pointing to his right hand and wrist. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Qb5IUW9aKLk.html My suggested answer is the initial jolt of pain from jamming his finger distracted him in that split second he had to catch the ball. Chalk it up to bad luck.
@bubbafug00gle51
@bubbafug00gle51 3 года назад
I was just starting to type the same thing, then I decided to see if anyone else had. Unfortunately pass target data isn't available before 1992.
@Lawomenshoops
@Lawomenshoops 3 года назад
While that is ruled a fumble, it's basically a screen pass!!! It's he is in front of the line of scrimmage, this is an incomplete pass! Thus, you should look at how many passes Rozier caught that year, and how many drops he had. This wasn't dropping a handoff, or a pitch, or fumbling while running the ball/being tackled.
@TrooperSC
@TrooperSC 3 года назад
It was a stupid call. It was still a stupid call even if it had worked. There is no defense of this call.
@Goomlahexpress
@Goomlahexpress 3 года назад
(2) CN100 Game of the Week Highlights: Loyola Academy vs Stevenson - RU-vid 2 minute 15 second mark. State Semifinal Loyola ran a fake punt from their own 5 yard line. I kid you not.
@CTubeMan
@CTubeMan 3 года назад
I didn’t see this get mentioned in your five worst calls of Wild Card Weekend, but the Oilers ran the same play against Cleveland that you had as the worst call. It’s surprising to me that Jerry Seeman was caught flat-footed in the Cleveland game since the Oilers ran a similar play the year before that got widespread criticism. Of course Seeman was regarded as one of the best referees ever (probably because he never blinked) and would become the head of officiating for the NFL.
@CTubeMan
@CTubeMan 3 года назад
And to clarify I’m including myself and all the other commenters on that video.
@scottdiehl6087
@scottdiehl6087 3 года назад
I wonder if the original person who said this was trying to Shield the player. That was horribly executed, needless to say.
@nasetvideos
@nasetvideos 3 года назад
This was a very good defense on your end of what I still believe to be a very bad play call...but the angles you showed of how successful this play could have been if everyone did his job was really good. Never saw it that way. And yes, in the best of scenarios, if all went well, that could have gone for 98 yards with a good catch and run and one big block. Still was too high "risk/reward" as you note...but excellent defense of the play if you had to defend it. I remember it the day it happened and it was just destroyed by the media. To this day, you might be the only person who has tried to defend it...and you did it well
@nicholassmith479
@nicholassmith479 3 года назад
The flaw of Granville’s Run and Shoot. No big bodies for short yardage situations. It was great between the twenties but inside the red zone, it was a mess. They didn’t need trick plays at that point. They needed to bowl Denver’s Defense aside. That takes an effective running game, not delayed handoffs and draws.
@Ragtime4
@Ragtime4 3 года назад
The oilers were not exclusively a 4-wide team under coach glanville. They did plenty of 2 back, along with single and double TE stuff.
@orangelab6846
@orangelab6846 2 года назад
Lol. Run and shoot? Absolutely not. They were among the top of the league in run to pass ratio. Their tight end was an offensive lineman in disguise. They were anything but finesse and pass happy.
@Ragtime4
@Ragtime4 2 года назад
@@orangelab6846 Not accurate to say “absolutely not.” Surely they used Run and Shoot concepts.
@r.jackson7162
@r.jackson7162 2 года назад
The oilers went to the Run and Shoot offense in 1990. The Houston Gamblers introduced the Run and Shoot to pro football from 84 to 85 in the USFL under Jack Pardee. Glanville is using 2 backs etc. In these clips from the game.
@Ragtime4
@Ragtime4 2 года назад
@@r.jackson7162 I’m sure with June Jones and Kevin Gilbride coaching Warren Moon there were Run and Shoot concepts in place during Glanville’s tenure. But they were definitely not exclusively a 4-wide team.
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