It's amazing that modern elevators don't need gigantic machines in a big room over the shaft any more. Just a tiny motor and some small gears at the top of the shaft. Awesome video DD!
My Dad worked on elevators for almost 40 years. He always has very interesting stories to tell about his time as an elevator constructor. He retired from it five years ago, and now he works as an elevator inspector.
I’m never been on the top of an elevator car before. I’m never ever going to go on a cartop of an elevator like I’ve seen in this video because I am very nice and smart! I will always ride the inside of the car where it’s much safer!
That was really cool, and is awesome that you could give us a demonstration of this from the safety and comfort of our own home! If I wanted to do this, I would definitly want to do it safely and legally!
as i RARELY watch your videos these days. (personal reasons). this had to be a required watch. I remember riding this a few times in 2014 and 2015. if only we could have ridden together.
At my dads work they have a giant crane along the ceilings of these 2 buildings made for fish counting and loading of the fish truck (he works at the department of water resources fish facility) and the cranes have a remote and it runs similar to this. There are multiple speeds for leveling, except the cranes go both vertical and horizontal
hey DieselDucy i was working in a building on guard duty about a good distance away and i got to watch them build the elevator, it was very interesting to see and witness
That is awesome! Too bad this elevator was torn down. Even though ThyssenKrupp ISISs didn't have the best track record, they really weren't terrible elevators. And since they are so rare, they have become a treat to enthusiasts. I hope you got lots of good parts from this thing!
RedLight GreenArrow This building is being reconfigured into apartments, and sadly this elevator was torn out. The freight elevator is coming out next.
That thing in the pit you called a computer is a ups ( universal power supply) more than likely. If they lose building power that ups will run the sump pump for awhile. 👍
that white "computer" in the pit is a UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) for the sump pump. AKA a battery backup. Same type of thing that will keep your computer running in a power outage.
I was once hired as an apprentice elevator mechanic whooo! I lasted half a day on safety training day I kindly told management this was not for me and split, see I grew up in Los Angeles drop me off in Watts I'll do ok but have me build elevators in new construction and I'm a kitten in a tub full of cold water, that being said I commend you brother for your work.
Hey Dieselducy, thanks to your videos along with another access hoist way video, i was able to ride on the top of an elevator thanks to your inspiration. Unfortunately, i was later caught by local authorities but it was fully thanks to you on why this happened. I rode the elevator at full speed as well and was badly injured... the stuff we do to have a good time
Very interesting video. I've never seen the internals of one of these before. The pastic pulleys are getting more and more common where I live as well. This here might be the slowest inspection speed I've ever seen until now. Schindler in Europe uses a default of 0.3 m/s for their logics with VF drives (although some 5500s seem to be alot faster). With a simple 2-speed logic you obviously get levelling speed, although I've already seen an exception here (this lift was only moving 0.75m/s though). The fastest set inspection speed I've seen on a modern logic on a conventional traction elevator was 0.6m/s, while only going at 0.3m/s between the two bottom and the two top floors. Regarding car top rides at full speed... I kindly point to the 1954 Otis video from December 2017. xD
I heard that you can set the inspection speed on some 5500s by pressing stop and pushing either direction button repeatedly many times, it will make it go faster. I did it before on a S5500 simulator. You should try!
@@elevator_satellite Ok that sounds interesting. Theoretically I could try it, but I don't have any use for it, since in case of a 5500 it could just be set in the CO-MX under the Speed/Accel settings. Or generally in any controller or VF drive.
lol one time my Dad took my sisters (who were 9 and 7 years old at the time) and I (16) for a tour at his work and he took us to the freight elevator pit in the building's sub basement. We were looking up into the shaft at the bottom of the freight elevator car.
If that white box was the main computer, that's an interesting choice of location. Flooding would kill that pretty quickly too. Looks like it might be more of a battery backup though. Looks very close to an old APC 1k (which were a huge pain in the butt to swap batteries out on.)
@@DieselDucy Yep. He showed me how to operate the fire service mode and showed me the machine room, hoist way, and pit. I was just in first grade when my uncle showed me the fire service operation.
This should never ever be done without authorization or proper clearances and training. I get to go in the machine room when the new elevator is installed at my grandparents school this Summer. Before I get started, machine rooms are very dangerous places. This should never ever be done without authorization. If you do have authorization, don't touch anything. I know what I'm doing and I have the authorization to do this. This is for your entertainment only. So without further ado, enjoy.
At around 9:02 I see one or two orbs. I'm sure they are not part of your light. Orbs are souls without human bodies. I knew they inhabit elevator shafts.
You should be an elevator mechanic! Also, normally when a variation of "do not attempt" is used, I would add "unless you want to" (that is suppose to be struckthrough, but stupid RU-vid doesn't use bbcode, so pretend!), but as you see in the video, I make my exception! If I wanted to do it, I would want to do it SAFELY AND LEGALLY!!! And elevator shafts are frickin' SCARY!!
This fellow is not a licensed elevator contsructor. His knowledge is limited. It is amazing how cheaply made the elevator equipment is today compared to years back. I was an elevator technician, elevator contractor and licensed elevator inspector for 36 years, now retired.Then worked 10 years as a licensed elevator inspector. Otis used to sell these by the pound years ago and they lasted for ages. Not anymore!
As I can see in this and other videos, inspection speed is slow as hell in the US. Not the same in Europe where on some elevators that I have surfed the inspection speed is pretty much the same as the full speed of the one you showed in this video. Most elevators at least in my country and in the UK have pretty generous inspection speeds. And Yes I also surf at full speed when there's enough space at the top and when I think it's not too dangerous on that particular elevator. (But just like BENO I don't ask for clearances before surfing elevators)
Actually not true you can look at the hoistway of a lift by looking up by where the doors are and you can see the shaft like you shown in one of your Carilion Parking Garage videos.
Yeah. You can see a bit assuming they don't have barriers that block your vision. You can also see the shaft and possibly pit from outside glass lifts. But these three scenarios are the only ones where uncertified people should see it.
Those inspection controls are look so much different than the fixtures in the UK, but the operation princple is the same to push both enable and up or enable and down. In the UK we have turn switches usually for Inspection/Normal instead of push for inspection here. Push to stop is pretty much the same. Also didnt see a door open switch / close here either.
Except that you have to first enable inspection service from inside the car with a special key. After that (The doors are still open) you can lower the elevator from a landing keyswitch to access the cartop. In theory you could just send the car to the floor below and open the landing door with the drop key (Like we do in Europe) but I don't know if the cartop controls would be working without prior activation of the in-car "inspection service" keyswitch.
I would never enter a shaft or do try anything (Unless I became an elevator repair tech of course), in this video, but I do have a question. Is it scary riding cartop? Also, how risky is riding this way for technicians? Seeing this video had me wondering this. Also, Is the ThyssenKrupp Isis, Traction or Hydro type elevator?
It is VERY risky if you don't know what you are doing. I did not find it scary cause I have done it several times with technicians. For technicians, in inspection service it is not risky, HOWEVER at full speed it can be VERY dangerous. Also this is TRACTION.
We have Thyssen here in our building and I must say, not a fan. Not blaming all you technicians but the ones assigned to our area just seem to only patch the problems. We all know the elevators are just too old and to me, kinda unsafe. I don't think they should move side to side a bit but thats just me
hey dieselducy... i have an elevator in my house made by the waupaca elevator company and its a hydrollic elevator... i have been in the pit of mine and I also got to ride on the top while it was in service mode
I would not put the hydraulic pump in the pit. That's a very bad idea. Because do you know what happens if my grandparents school floods? The elevator is ruined.
if you are the technician servicing this one, don't you find it a bit annoying that you cant control your speed on service mode if having to service that regularly..lol?
Two questions: is the 2:1 a similar thing to how some theatrical counterweight systems are weighted - like when they don't have a full fly? How does one actually fit a new car and system into an existing shaft - is the car flatpack and built in the shaft effectively?
I see the lift is newly renovated/replaced.... But awful. The dooroperator sounds like tired and close to fail. . The ropes are not proper adjusted... Some sound like guitarstrings, some are loose, that you can easily move it with the finger....
Is that as fast as they go with full speed? And is it possible to get smashed at the top while riding on the top of the elevator if you’re not careful? And thank you for the video. I was thinking of doing this as a career but I’m not really a heights kind of person or I’m worried I’d fall off into the shaft or get crushed at the top. But I’m sure with enough training you get over your fears. :o lol.
