In-Depth Look: The Role of Sensors and Cameras in Advanced Driver-Assistance Systems

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In this video, Chris and Clif thoroughly explain and demonstrate the various levels of ADAS, exploring each system's components and providing insights into their operation and functionality. Thanks to Ford, Waymo, May Mobility and Chris (Dirty Tesla) for participating in this video!
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27:05 Ford Blue Cruise
37:14 Tesla FSD
47:08 Waymo
01:04:31 May Mobility
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@highlanderapparel 2 месяца назад

Thank you for the in-depth information. I’m gonna keep track of this one. The Highlander PS kindness is always free.😊

@nasim3269 2 месяца назад

As a computer engineer at an OEM I can say your description of RADAR is way outdated. Otherwise I love this channel!

@iuristasiv9360 2 месяца назад

@@nasim3269 can you elaborate please? I am very interested in the new technologies. Thanks!

@nasim3269 2 месяца назад

@@iuristasiv9360 just that the radars in development now are actually able to classify objects and tell you so much more about them than just distance or speed

@iuristasiv9360 2 месяца назад

@@nasim3269 but how? Is it something like what starling dishes have, the signal steering or something or a radar matrix?

@nasim3269 2 месяца назад

@@iuristasiv9360 its both. You should research it

@214lilley 2 месяца назад

What an absolutely fantastic presentation, thank you.

@ericgregori 2 месяца назад

I had to check to see how old this video is. Neither Subaru or Tesla use radar for level 1,2. Subaru Eyesight dumped radar before Tesla did.

@stephenj4937 2 месяца назад

Subaru never used front-facing radar. They do use it for rear cross traffic alert.

@ryanwelsch9384 Месяц назад

I would have liked to have heard the cost comparisons of the options. I would have also like to have heard a summary at the end of the video comparing all the options. What happens when there is no one in the drivers seat and the car is stuck?

@alanwetherall 2 месяца назад

Absolutely brilliant video.well done

@MunroLive 2 месяца назад

Many thanks!

@frankkeel8410 2 месяца назад

Excellent presentation

@MunroLive 2 месяца назад

Thanks a lot

@oswaldogarcia7327 2 месяца назад

Are the feedback and feedforward control systems work simultaneously for this case? Or is it just feedback?

@brianelleman3494 2 месяца назад

This was awesome! Great job!

@MunroLive 2 месяца назад

Thanks so much!

@markplott4820 2 месяца назад

@@MunroLive generally poor coverage of TESLA FSD / AI . already v12.5 testing. Robotaxi 8/8.

@jmirodg7094 2 месяца назад

Realy cool thanks! Just a message to Waymo please put your app on the international app store I traveled to SF a few times but could not install the app cause I'm not on the us android app store!

@galactictomato1434 2 месяца назад

Great video.

@sasjadevries 2 месяца назад

2:27 He explains a TOF-principle, when affordable radars actually use interferometry. And then CW-radars have modulation, where they frequency shift the radiowaves at a lower (IF frequency).

@ericgregori 2 месяца назад

But Subaru has bucked the conventional wisdom for years, with a two-camera system called EyeSight for features like adaptive cruise control, pre-collision braking and lane-keep assist. Subaru has sold more than a million cars with EyeSight since 2013, whereas most automakers rely on camera and radar for these features.

@kwdavids1 2 месяца назад

The Mercedes EQS system is Level 3, not Level 4. It has LIDAR. Level 3 systems DO NOT require the driver to watch the road, although they have to be in seat so that the ADAS can request the driver to take over.

@phillippatzer-py1tf 2 месяца назад

I saw a RoboTaxi test vehicle on the road the other day. I got some close up pics and a short walk around video Let me know if you want to see them PS. Love the channel

@i2010FSL 2 месяца назад

Mobileye was founded 1999 ... EyeQ1 - as the first product for automotive - was brought to market 2007 only. On Intel, yes Intel owned Mobileye but they IPOed Mobileye in 2022. As to Intel as semiconductor company in the back: No benefit at all from that: EyeQs are manufactured at ST Fabs in Europe (Croles/France) or the newer ones at TSMC (Taiwan). Leading Tier1s doing designs with ME are ZF (former TRW), APTIV and Valeo. Continental never did a smart camera with ME inside, BOSCH neither. HKMC and Mobis, yes they are sourcing ME as well. Other than that a nice summary of things.

@patrickkenny2077 2 месяца назад

Kind of wish there was a discussion on more advanced strategies like HD radar and detail into sensor fusion. Also an area of confusion (at least for myself) is what level of hardware redudnancy is mandated for Level 4 and 5 autonomy.

@suggesttwo 2 месяца назад

FLIR? Forward Looking Infant Red? Mammals and engines motors and brakes have a heat signature. 17:03

@markplott4820 2 месяца назад

FLIR is still TOO EXPENSIVE , same cost as 12 HD cameras.

@drkastenbrot 2 месяца назад

its a premium feature on some luxury cars and mainly helps detect animals long before they get a chance to run in front of your car. for other purposes, it doesnt have too much of a benefit over the other, already present sensors.

@Mircea007 2 месяца назад

Used to work for a truck company and when we moved to the fusion sensors, the camera was doing the processing but at the same time it was taking a huge chunk of space on the windscreen and limiting visibility, not a good design idea at all!

@markplott4820 2 месяца назад

you Really need to try the TESLA semi , BEST long haul 82k Vehicle.

@Aztasu 2 месяца назад

@@markplott4820 still everyday bullshitting huh?

@zodiacfml 2 месяца назад

watching this, I realized how different or not competing Tesla FSD is to Waymo. While Tesla about launch robotaxi soon, it's an uphill battle and it will take at least a year for Tesla to come close to Waymo's current operation. However, FSD feels more like a superior product at present as a driver assistance/car feature that should be on all cars (at a certain minimum weight and/or dimensions) by law. I think it can pay for itself easily due to countless lives and property, time, money being saved.

@williamlowry2487 2 месяца назад

Waymo has been operating without drivers for several years. FSD is only next year if you believe Elon! It’s been “next year” for 8 years!

@zodiacfml 2 месяца назад

@@williamlowry2487 honestly i have never believed any elons FSD claims over the years. Even a perfect autonomous car would still need some intervention as it deals with humans on the road. Oh, a camera based or vision only approach is basico or not reliable

@TogetherinParis 2 месяца назад

Flir. We don't paint headlights to match. Just leave them all 1 color. They don't have to be hidden, they just need to be aerodynamic.

@CareyB85 2 месяца назад

really clever how the ford uses a de-escalation strategy based on how much attention the driver is paying.

@Trashed20659 2 месяца назад

For all dedicated Star Wars fans who used to fantasize about living in a world full of robots ... it's here now.

@iuristasiv9360 2 месяца назад

Wow so much interesting information, it's like a crash course for Ada's. Thanks Munro!

@MunroLive 2 месяца назад

Thanks

@iuristasiv9360 2 месяца назад

You're welcome! @@MunroLive

@ericgregori 2 месяца назад

A crash course on 5 year old ADAS technology.

@iuristasiv9360 2 месяца назад

@@ericgregori I mean, it seemed like new technology to me, could you tell me what's the most cutting edge tech besides Tesla's fsd

@14energy 2 месяца назад

Verne robotaxi just entered chat 😂

@suggesttwo 2 месяца назад

1:14:32 If the front of the car lifts it's going. If not the driver's creeping out for a better view. Front end dive indicates firm braking.

@Soothsayer210 2 месяца назад

That was very informative. Thx. for the timestamps too.

@MunroLive 2 месяца назад

Glad it was helpful!

@markplott4820 2 месяца назад

MUNRO info is OUT OF DATE. see - Tesla HW4 and FSD v12.5 .

@1944chevytruck 2 месяца назад

good job!

@tomcockcroft9394 2 месяца назад

Don’t go around the corner on the ford system 😂😂

@barefootguru 2 месяца назад

Waymo: External Audio Recorder - EAR 😸

@csf1757 2 месяца назад

In a Tesla on Autopilot, if you touch any buttons or stalks, the car takes that as evidence you are paying attention.

@steverichmond7142 2 месяца назад

I remember Sandy telling Elon Musk to put every different technology into cars and not just camera based systems. At the time I was working at Bae and couldn't understand how Musk's proposal would work without radar and lidar. Wonderful video thank you.

@moepoulin3487 2 месяца назад

@@steverichmond7142 Elon kind of puts it really simple humans can drive pretty well with only two eyes and a really advanced inference computer (brains) but the cars computer has some big advantages in that it is never distracted never tired and has eight eyes 👀 😳

@cengeb 2 месяца назад

Mush is wrong as usual. Benz has level 5 already in test. Benz says it must have radar and cameras, can't work without radar. Tesla is way behind real car makers.

@waynerussell6401 2 месяца назад

@@cengeb liar!

@fcv1967 2 месяца назад

The biggest reason I won't buy anything other than Tesla right now is their adas. I don't mean FSD either.

@danielhull9079 2 месяца назад

Just started watching hoping to hear how QNX manages the platform securely.

@shazam6274 2 месяца назад

More of a "History" lesson of failed attempts. Essentially a review of "how not to do it". Radar tech is quite old and not very useful, most newer approaches are multibeam (dozens to hundreds).

@ronaldlenz5745 2 месяца назад

Mercedes Level 3 is a joke. Under 40 mph, moderate to high traffic required, daylight. Where would you actually use this? You didn't mention this. Tesla FSD v11? Really? This is so outdated. Required operating conditions Building over a century of trust in drivers across the globe begins and ends with safety. DRIVE PILOT is ready to chauffeur you under conditions that help ensure a secure ride. Conditions include: Clear lane markings on approved freeways Moderate to heavy traffic with speeds under 40 MPH Daytime lighting and clear weather Driver visible by camera located above driver's display There is no construction zone present. Please review the Operator's Manual for the complete list of conditions required for DRIVE PILOT to engage.

@rogerstarkey5390 2 месяца назад

"Forward facing Radar" ....unless it's the car you're standing in front of?

@danubiosalas4231 2 месяца назад

From the point of view of driver or passenger. All denominations for location start with adopting a convention about the position of the speaker. First lesson in nursing and medicine: anatomic position, defines the direction of the patient, hands, legs, right, left, back and front; it makes sure everyone is speaking in same terms.

@rogerstarkey5390 2 месяца назад

@@danubiosalas4231 Are we talking about the same thing? (Model Y behind them)

@AdityaMehendale 2 месяца назад

18:50 what is that painting/illustration on the wall at the top left side? Looks hauntingly beautiful; Sorry I don't mean to detract from the subject-matter.

@c_fox7396 2 месяца назад

It’s a spoof of Where the Wild Things are with Sandy super imposed over Max

@AdityaMehendale 2 месяца назад

@@c_fox7396 I just went down the rabbit-hole of "Where the wild things are" :) Thanks, Cap'n!

@markplott4820 2 месяца назад

MUNRO live " this is a ghost gun, it fires .30 cal Magazine clips , at a rate of 30 clips per second " ...........lol.

@BSJWright 2 месяца назад

Funny, Tesla have been doing over the air updates for years...

@BRM101 2 месяца назад

This is interesting and all that i love it, but I fail to see how all this extra tech is in anyway sustainable or environmentally friendly! Things just seem to be getting more and more complex and I just don’t see what the aim is what do we need self driving cars?

@waynerussell6401 2 месяца назад

>40 000 DEATHS AND UNTOLD DAMAGE AND MISERY EVERY YEAR IN USA ALONE!

@coreyahahn 2 месяца назад

snow day? How old is this video?

@MunroLive 2 месяца назад

It was filmed over the span of a few months.

@andrewvercillo7584 2 месяца назад

Wish you guys talked about Tesla FSD more and let the world know how it’s the best ADAS system out and how it takes a different approach from everyone else. How it makes everyone else look silly. How it has the most powerful chips in the industry.

@eugeniustheodidactus8890 2 месяца назад

Tesla's robo taxi must at least be the vehicle you are showing at 1:57.... with club seating.

@markplott4820 2 месяца назад

MUNRO - Tesla AI 4 is already LEVEL 4 General Autonomy , w/ ZERO Intervention Drives & able to Drive from Parking spot to Parking spot , now w/ HANDSFREE ( zero NAGS).

@stefanpredl6849 2 месяца назад

The levels are stupid and only for lawers interesting

@stephenj4937 2 месяца назад

Tesla does not currently offer Level 4 autonomy to the general public. They still require the driver to pay attention.

@markplott4820 2 месяца назад

@@stephenj4937 - some consumer testers are v12.4 handsfree. like wholemars & Tesla rag.

@stilllearning7434 2 месяца назад

@@stephenj4937 DUH, paying attention what a rare thought !

@elvinthalund5193 2 месяца назад

Tesla FSD supervised is L2. The wording supervised is literally taken from the SAE L2 definition. V12.5 with actual smart summons would be L3.

@EricP36 2 месяца назад

First! 💪

@LawpickingLocksmith 2 месяца назад

The boss away?

@MunroLive 2 месяца назад

@johnd01 2 месяца назад

I thought my Model Y was cameras only.

@ulf5738 2 месяца назад

I own a Tesla M3LR “highland”, and it’s Tesla Vision sucks when it comes to phantom braking. It’s incredible that our Kia which is almost half the price has much better sensor capabilities in real life situations. Radars are much better. And also the wipers of the Kia works much better.

@BillB33525 2 месяца назад

How about a special on why Phantom Braking continues to be a problem for everyone?

@Patriot3 2 месяца назад

My 2018 m3 hasn't had a phantom brake issue since last year? I did receive some OTA last night that increased my nag.

@ericgregori 2 месяца назад

You are full of crap.

@ulf5738 2 месяца назад

@@Patriot3 You don’thave Tesla Vision if yours is 2018 ??

@markplott4820 2 месяца назад

then UPDATE your Vehicle.

@Y2Kvids 2 месяца назад

Trains are LEVEL 6

@stilllearning7434 2 месяца назад

Crazy Snow day on July 19, 2024 ? WTH ? Just published today? WGO ?

@MunroLive 2 месяца назад

This video was filmed over a span of a couple few months.

@markplott4820 2 месяца назад

Legacy auto are still using ASS- das hardware & software. they cant even drive anywhere to a pin drop.

@ericgregori 2 месяца назад

April 17 (Reuters) - The U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said on Wednesday it had upgraded its probe into reports of unexpected activation of automatic emergency braking systems in around 3 million Honda Motor (7267.T), opens new tab vehicles to an engineering analysis. The NHTSA said it had received 2,876 consumer complaints, and reports of 93 injury incidents and 47 crashes involving Honda cars with unique vehicle identification numbers that may be related to the issue. The regulator had opened a preliminary evaluation into about 1.7 million Honda vehicles in February 2022 to assess claims that the automatic emergency braking system activated with no apparent obstruction in the vehicle's path. Honda's Autonomous Emergency Braking works by using a radar and camera, and applies strong braking pressure if the accident becomes unavoidable, but gives drivers visual and audible alerts before kicking in.

@ariip 2 месяца назад

10 minutes in and it sounds like they have completely left out tesla, what they are doing, what they are planning and what their current capabilities are. Nevermind the drastic hardware differences and the ability to not need sonar sensors and purely vision just like I do like a human being with 2 eyes. I can judge distance when backing up just the way vision will in time with training. My 2020 model x has completely driven me around philadelphia, pa, and from delaware county, pa to new york with only interventions at the ez pass toll plazas without the express lanes. Without having to do anything but nudge the wheel every so often for the driver monitoring. This is level 4 already without the approval yet.

@markplott4820 2 месяца назад

RADAR is too slow , CAMERAS w/ pure Vision detect & compute FASTER. RADAR is also too NOISY w/ many artifacts.

@djemcee 2 месяца назад

The Waymo guy “uh” is so annoying.

@moepoulin3487 2 месяца назад

Wow, I have been a big Monroe fan since Sandy’s rant on the model 3 tear down but this video is very disappointing showing FSD version 11 which was terrible compared to version 12, I have owned a model X for 18 months so I have used both versions, Monroe did not make a fair review of FSD by using an old video of version 11, which is not even available now. 👎

@MunroLive 2 месяца назад

This was filmed before V12 came out which was stated in the video and the point was to demonstrate how level 2 works and we showed two examples, Ford and Tesla. This wasn't a review of FSD.

@arsni23 2 месяца назад

v12 is not the game changer as you try to point out here, also its mentioned in the video that v12 us already rolled out

@moepoulin3487 2 месяца назад

@@MunroLiveI stand corrected I didn’t hear that it was done before V12 was out my bad😮😮

@moepoulin3487 2 месяца назад

@@arsni23if you have had FSD through the various versions I’ve had it since V10 and V12 is no doubt a huge step change from previous versions

@ericgregori 2 месяца назад

@@MunroLive@MunroLive So, are you going to do a follow-up to correct your mistakes? Radar is not required for SAE level 1 or 2. Subaru Eyesight has not used radar for years. Dirty Tesla will do and say anything for clicks. Can you find someone to better represent Tesla?

@markplott4820 2 месяца назад

MUNRO - Mercedes ADAS is NOT Street capable , Drives 45 mph on Highways . but still CRASHES into Barriers.

@ronaldlenz5745 2 месяца назад

Mercedes says "under 40 mph." Quite useless.

@Aztasu 2 месяца назад

@@ronaldlenz5745 will be at 90kph/56mph at the end of the year. It is much more usable then

@ronaldlenz5745 2 месяца назад

Waymo guy was way annoying with the ah ah um um ah um!

@rogerstarkey5390 2 месяца назад

Hmmmmmm 🤔 This one got the "Really?" and "2x speed boost" after 2 minutes (While listening in the background) and a "No Thanks" with rare 👎 at 16:08 when LiDAR appeared.

@stilllearning7434 2 месяца назад

Tesla FSD version 11.4.9 ? Old Old stuff. Today 7/19/2024 , version 12.5 is being tested. Sorry, gentlemen, but am I missing something?

@MunroLive 2 месяца назад

This was filmed before the release of V12. Stated so in the video.

@elvinthalund5193 2 месяца назад

Tesla is clearly shooting for L4/5 even with current hardware, Elon have stated that current customers can add their cars to the RoboTaxi fleet. So your statement about what existing manufacturer are trying to achieve is not accurate.

@badmonkey2917 Месяц назад

Waimo driving from a-b with tesla fad with the newest software. Tesla win without inputs. This was a wimp promotion. If the test have shown traffic close so the car had to chose a new roate with a revers the waimo had stopped. This is shown in earlyer videos. Show Tesla in a very old software I sent very fair , today the drive without intervention in city like Chicago and new York without touching the steering wheel. So this was a waimo promo

@badmonkey2917 Месяц назад

And waymo brag of 10000 of thousands feedback,but nobody says anything about Tesla do millions of feedbacks every day. This suck big time

@mfurmyr 2 месяца назад

Tesla autonomous parking get face palm on all tests.

@WhiteWi 2 месяца назад

It works great!

@ericgregori 2 месяца назад

Why are you showing such an old version of FSD? FSD is now full hands free.

@MunroLive 2 месяца назад

It was filmed prior to the release of V12 and we stated such in the video. The point was to showcase level 2 which we did with Ford and Tesla. It’s not a review of FSD.

@markplott4820 2 месяца назад

@@MunroLive- why showcase L1 & L2 when TESLA already @ L4 autonomy in Streets ?

@MunroLive 2 месяца назад

According to the classification used by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE), which we stated at the beginning of the video we were going by, Tesla's FSD is still very much at Level 2 regarding autonomous driving.

@MunroLive 2 месяца назад

Also according to Teslas own website. “Like other Autopilot features, Full Self-Driving (Supervised) requires a fully attentive driver and will display a series of escalating warnings requiring driver response. You must keep your hands on the steering wheel while Full Self-Driving (Supervised) is engaged.In addition, the cabin camera monitors driver attentiveness.”

@markplott4820 2 месяца назад

@@MunroLive - NOT required for FSD v12.4 unsupervised.

@Patriot3 2 месяца назад

Who has a united nations flag flying at there desk?

@ericgregori 2 месяца назад

Is Mobileye paying you?

@d.r.656 2 месяца назад

Stick to hardware buddy. V11, that video is irrelvant. How about using fsd v8 next one up eh

@gibsonpa 2 месяца назад

Disappointed with this video. Turned off as soon as I saw FSD 12 was not shown. Why show an ancient version of the software? Big thumbs down.

@MunroLive 2 месяца назад

We were honest up front stating that this video was filmed before the release of V12.

@somethingsomethingsomethingdar 2 месяца назад

Love how all the people on here are arguing as if they work with these systems and design them…. What I know is that a modern Tesla will run over a child, suddenly veer into walls, jerk or react in odd ways when lines are not pristine on the road. It seems pretty clear that both sensors have their place and that AI is nowhere near ready to take over driving for us

@ericgregori 2 месяца назад

You do not know anything and obviously did not watch the video of Tesla driving on a dirt road. Tesla ADAS has won awards for safety, specifically with pedestrian avoidance: Euro NCAP Safety Tests of Tesla Model Y 2022 - You can watch the video of the tests on RU-vid.

@leifandersen2756 2 месяца назад

I am against when the car is overtaking the driver’s job by driving .It is the driver who steers the like many other things and not the car ! I am against self driving cars like Tesla and we have seen too many deaths because of this !

@leifandersen2756 2 месяца назад

It is a violation of the car owners rights when the state interferes into how the drivers drive. Now the photographing the traffic signs will be paired to a speed limiter which slow the car down to the speed on the signs It is a violation of rights and it’s wrong