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IN THE COURT OF THE CRIMSON KING doc | My Reaction 

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@lupcokotevski2907
@lupcokotevski2907 9 месяцев назад
I dont like 99% of prog and 95% of fusion, but i watch your channel because you are authentic, funny, informative, creative, emotional, risky and you stimulate my thinking.
@blackearwax
@blackearwax 9 месяцев назад
i echo these very sentiments
@Bassdriver
@Bassdriver 2 месяца назад
Andy, you're one of the most valuable, profound voices in the YT music community nowadays. What you do HAS a meaning. And remember the court jester was more often than not the most intelligent of them all.
@kimstrickland65
@kimstrickland65 9 месяцев назад
Curious how much attraction the KC music has on the early band members. In the early 2000s, former KC members Ian MacDonald, Michael Giles, Mel Collins, Ian Wallace and a new guitarist Jakko Jakszsyk put together the 21st Century Schizoid Band to play the early KC repertoire in concert. At times they had an empty chair on stage for Fripp in case he ever felt like joining in. Eventually the later drummer in the Schizoid Band, Ian Wallace, put together the Crimson Jazz Trio, a jazz piano-bass-drum ensemble to play Crimson tunes going from first album to the albums in the early 80s. Shortly after that, Ian Wallace died, the Schizoid Band broke up, and then Jakko joined Fripp in the next official Crimson group and stayed till the end. Most of the former survivors of the early KC bands had successful careers in music after KC, but still came together to play this music years later.
@raleighsmalls4653
@raleighsmalls4653 9 месяцев назад
That's why Doc Fripp is playing the fool in the Toya videos methinks....
@progperljungman8218
@progperljungman8218 9 месяцев назад
RIP Bill Rieflin
@amasvodka
@amasvodka 9 месяцев назад
An absolute legend of industrial music!
@gregarruda112
@gregarruda112 9 месяцев назад
Art is about an attempt to grasp eternity.
@andrewpope1352
@andrewpope1352 8 месяцев назад
If you're questioning your worth via this channel I can assure you that you have touched and enlightened at least one person. I am so glad I stumbled onto your channel and have binged on it since , the last three days has been all your videos and I have soaked up so much knowledge. Please don't change your format of off the cuff rumination it is the most real thing on RU-vid for me and I love it. Where else would you get the esoteric influence on King Crimson , a subject and a band I both enjoy greatly. Thank you so much you are one of the few Renaissance men and it is a privilege to share in your knowledge and please know I haven't blown smoke up someone's ass like this in a very long time....
@jdmresearch
@jdmresearch 9 месяцев назад
15:35 Andy, I've to say that the moment you describe is one of the most amazing moments in film-making history. Am I biased? Sure. But even if the rest of the doc was crap, that moment alone would make it a great film. It caught me completely off guard, and as you, I froze there in shock... Incredible.
@themetallian2112
@themetallian2112 9 месяцев назад
I wonder if that's what John Cage was trying to do with 4"33
@Steeyuv
@Steeyuv 9 месяцев назад
Serving the music is exactly what McLaughlin does, but in a different way. Fripp 'knows' what the path is and expects the band to conform. McLaughlin does not know, but trusts the band members to find it with him.
@chrismorgan7494
@chrismorgan7494 9 месяцев назад
Wonderful reaction video, Andy. I thought the video actually froze for a minute. I decided to wait it out and finally saw you blink. Then, I understood the reference.
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 9 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@Hartlor_Tayley
@Hartlor_Tayley 9 месяцев назад
That was incredible.
@oliverlarsen7725
@oliverlarsen7725 9 месяцев назад
To put it quite bluntly and in few words: this video is, as in overall, just great Andy. Keep up the great work, which it’s for sure. And have a great weekend.
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 9 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@oliverlarsen7725
@oliverlarsen7725 9 месяцев назад
@@Barklord A whole lot of coffee.
@user-st8bk4sk9i
@user-st8bk4sk9i 9 месяцев назад
Dear Andy, many thanks for your thoughtful and indepth reaction! Your observation/theory at 31:31-31:57 is so utterly beautiful! You are good company and I am so happy that you have appeared in youtube land constantly giving me new food for thought!
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 9 месяцев назад
Thank you very much!
@RobertSvilpaMusic
@RobertSvilpaMusic 6 месяцев назад
he said "I will remember you" - and then died 4 days later. That bit had a profound impact on me watching this documentary - this incredible weight of those four words on Robert's being... it would be like meeting the Dalai Lama and being told that exact phrase, and then the promise of meeting in the "afterlife"...
@ericarmstrong6540
@ericarmstrong6540 9 месяцев назад
Your observation about RF being an "autocratic despot" is interesting. Bill Bruford states in his autobiography that Robert Fripp is one part Joseph Stalin, one part Mahatma Ghandi and one part Marquis de Sade. He then goes on to say that if you told Robert Fripp this he would agree with it and probably laugh.
@neilcreamer8207
@neilcreamer8207 9 месяцев назад
I haven't studied Gurdjieff although I read Ouspensky's In Search of the Miraculous. Nor am I a musician. But I have practised non-dual inquiry for years. Eventually, what you are alluding to can become clear: music, like thoughts, comes out of the void. Whatever makes them is also what experiences them. What we think we are is simply an experience. As Prospero said in The Tempest, "‘We are such stuff As dreams are made on, and our little life Is rounded with a sleep.’
@jonesing4fame922
@jonesing4fame922 8 месяцев назад
King Crimson commands attention and heightens awareness.
@preservedmoose
@preservedmoose 9 месяцев назад
I kept waiting for you to say that "the silence was almost deafening" 🤣
@StratsRUs
@StratsRUs 9 месяцев назад
I always feel better after playing .....and there's a sweet silence as I pack up my equipment where I'm just floating back to Earth.
@alternativepreacher4516
@alternativepreacher4516 9 месяцев назад
This is one of your best videos in my opinion, enthralling commentary about a fascinating (but sometimes difficult to fully understand) band. A joy for all KC fans.
@kevinogracia1615
@kevinogracia1615 9 месяцев назад
The shock is like the Zen slap. Arica used this process too. As of art: One loses self as we paint, as we act on stage, as we play music. We become universal. One... Egoless... Peace on earth.
@michaelfavreau7617
@michaelfavreau7617 9 месяцев назад
Your videos are important to me. Very intelligent. What I think this platform of tech needs far more of.
@DarrenMcGill442
@DarrenMcGill442 9 месяцев назад
Riveting and passionate. Thank you, Andy
@rickvenlo1362
@rickvenlo1362 6 месяцев назад
“Surfing the waves of the eternal now” -Andy Edwards.
@petergillingham9445
@petergillingham9445 9 месяцев назад
cheer up Andy and do another one like the top 10 biscuits, maybe crisps this time....
@StratsRUs
@StratsRUs 9 месяцев назад
Beeakfast Cereals of our youth.
@andrewwilson711
@andrewwilson711 9 месяцев назад
You have the gift of connecting with people
@loyalroyal
@loyalroyal 2 месяца назад
My favourite RU-vid commentator. I love your knowledge, attitude and sense of humour.
@gcustis
@gcustis 9 месяцев назад
I’ve played the guitar for more than 50 years, just for myself I do not perform. What I’ve discovered is making music is to fail over and over to possibly get to point where the flow comes and it’s not by my doing; so it seems. I think this is my spiritual quest, for lack of a better description. So, I’m a huge failure and that’s where I’m at my best. Thank you for a your sharing, but don’t give up on the humor.
@progperljungman8218
@progperljungman8218 9 месяцев назад
YES! This is it! The truthful (sincere) jester! And I love You fot it! ❤
@deek49
@deek49 3 месяца назад
A great and moving documentary that makes me appreciate Robert and King Crimson even more than ever. And an excellent and powerful video, Andy. Honest, real, and sincere as always. I thank you, sir.
@andrewbradley6941
@andrewbradley6941 9 месяцев назад
Thank you, Andy. Your videos are extremely worthwhile.
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 9 месяцев назад
Glad you think so!
@taykitrleevitt4314
@taykitrleevitt4314 9 месяцев назад
You're reaction at the end is why I've taken to your channel... nothing wrong with questioning your motives in creating these vids as long as it's rooted in honesty.
@Emlizardo
@Emlizardo 9 месяцев назад
What's more English than finally just saying, "Look, here's my garden?" It melted this Yank's heart.
@abbazabbado
@abbazabbado 9 месяцев назад
👏👏👏 A very brave and illuminating "performance". Thank you, sir. I suppose I should be blaming you for keeping me up and glued to this screen till a shade past 3am Japan Time, but I'll forgive you this once for the profound experience of another "My Dinner With Andre" gaze into the abyss. Perhaps another "chapter" in this tale might be a musician otherwise considered to be completely different: That being the consummate improviser Keith Jarrett, another erstwhile "acquaintance" of Gurdjieff's, even once recording an album of the Master’s tunes, who in his own way had a deeply abiding connection to "The Big Note" (from another oblique angle, of course), from where it appears much of this "inspiration" springs forth. Next step is figuring out how to make the smoke stand still. 😉
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 9 месяцев назад
I have done a video on him
@Whesting2476
@Whesting2476 9 месяцев назад
Your content surpasses all expectations as always, Andy. It would be great to see a video of you talking about Works Volume 1 by ELP, keep it up!
@richardmace1428
@richardmace1428 9 месяцев назад
One of your best videos I think. You touched upon some really profound ideas.
@bobsbigboy_
@bobsbigboy_ 4 месяца назад
amazing video and insights, thank you Andy, you really deeply get this stuff so to speak
@user-pl2th5wj2h
@user-pl2th5wj2h 3 месяца назад
Bloody hell.I thought this was a review of a documentary.This bloke did my head in after about 10 minutes.....
@TobyAmies
@TobyAmies 6 месяцев назад
What an extraordinary and perceptive response and review, thank you. Please contact me if you'd like to discuss the film in another video.
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 6 месяцев назад
Hello Toby...I would love to, andyedwardsdrums@gmail.com
@hermancharlesserrano1489
@hermancharlesserrano1489 9 месяцев назад
Bands with artistic tension make the best music; tension makes for spicy music and leads to more beautiful resolution. But I understand this notion of transcendent music, letting the spirit in…question is whether you believe you are accessing something external or internal, whether you are letting in something from outside in, from a pre-existing musical continuum, or whether you are removing internal barriers, removing embarrassment and shame and ego and simply being yourself within music. One suggests we are nothing but servants to a musical dimension, the other suggests that if we let go of all the noise, we access our purest musical selves…I imagine it’s both, that we must resonate within the musical continuum, and allow it to resonate within us
@Hartlor_Tayley
@Hartlor_Tayley 9 месяцев назад
I didn’t even know there was a Crim doc.
@hauskahirvi
@hauskahirvi 9 месяцев назад
Your "review" of this film is very informative and spot on. I watched this soon after it came out. I am a bit of a loss for words right now.
@BenFinlay-cg9dl
@BenFinlay-cg9dl 9 месяцев назад
This is a fantastic video Andy, thanks so much. You've made me learn some interesting things and cheered up a really miserable Wednesday. Thank you!
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 9 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@kevinogracia1615
@kevinogracia1615 9 месяцев назад
Nothing is important... And, yet meaningless is important to few. Peace on earth.
@jackpittens796
@jackpittens796 9 месяцев назад
I saw the documentary when it was first released in the theater for 1 night only. There was a whole 3 people in the theater, me, my buddy, and one other person. Disappointed it was so few, but poorly advertised. It was in winter with a snow storm out side, and the heating was off in our theater. They offered our money back but we just wanted to see it. A great documentary. Very different to any other music documentary that I've seen, but not unexpected given the band and Robert Fripp. Very much enjoyed it, and bought the DVD so I can rewatch it, which I have a few times.
@clydespace411
@clydespace411 9 месяцев назад
having seen the doc, but none of my friends have yet, it was great to have Andy put into words lots of the emotions and reactions I had to the profound doc. Appreciated the honest reaction, including having a somewhat enigmatic and evolving immediate reaction to an enigmatic Robert Fripp and the doc in question. Having listened to the music for over 40 years, seen KC live show, having familiarity with the quirky strange mr fripp, the doc show me I really didn't know the full deal, full scope, full breadth of what the band and the music are REALLY all about. And I was even further off on Mr. Fripp--- which left me with mixed emotions after the doc. And for that reason I have to call it an honest doc, not a KC worship piece which would have been the easier doc to do. And this was an honest reaction. I often disagree with Mr. Edwards opinions. Its what brings me back watching the channel, for when they differ from mine they are both honest and thought provoking. You wind up re-examining your own position. Kind of how he does on this journey of a reaction.
@cobaltseatreasure
@cobaltseatreasure 2 месяца назад
Wonderful comprehension and explanation! ~
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 2 месяца назад
Thank you kindly!
@ElrondHubbard_1
@ElrondHubbard_1 9 месяцев назад
Crystallization. Don't forget that the Thin King built on sand.
@andrewwilson711
@andrewwilson711 9 месяцев назад
Superb Andy
@hermancharlesserrano1489
@hermancharlesserrano1489 9 месяцев назад
A great video, mate, thought provoking as always, but also more so than usual. You spent an hour coming to the point of all our lives, that we are fleeting sparks and, really, mean nothing in the grander scheme of life, the universe and everything…and yet we all are, all of civilisation and before even that, simply saying ‘I was here’
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 9 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@dsjwhite
@dsjwhite 9 месяцев назад
I'd call your garden avoiding the void. Not sure if your talk was profound or blether but I enjoyed it. Thank you and keep going.
@progperljungman8218
@progperljungman8218 9 месяцев назад
Great and authentic documentary! Saw it last February already (@ a film festival)
@ronaldchives2486
@ronaldchives2486 9 месяцев назад
Hi Andy, enjoyed this video, I was affected in a similar way to you after watching the dvd, there is no documentary quite like it, the effect doesn’t go away with repeated viewings either, keep well 🙂
@Genubi-qv3me
@Genubi-qv3me 9 месяцев назад
Andy, it is not babble. It is important and I relate to your truth. Thank you for sharing………..
@ulfingvar1
@ulfingvar1 4 месяца назад
Keep making videos. Thousands are watching (this one alone has 5880 views in a mere 5 months) which proves that you're definitely communicating something, no matter how elusive or esoteric. You reach out and connect with kindred spirits. Wish I could say the same..
@kzustang
@kzustang 9 месяцев назад
A must watch for every artist and thinker. I mean the documentary. But Andy's ok too. My favorite Andy videos are the ones where Gurjieff and the esoteric get in the conversation, and I'm a sucker for anything Fripp or KC. Stil...this video, once again, blew my mind. I find this whole thing really fascinating and inspiring. Thank you!
@thelantern9075
@thelantern9075 9 месяцев назад
Awesome and beautifully crafted video. When you mentioned RF talking about losing the ego I admit... I did bust out laughing. Ha! Life long KC fan, one of my biggest influences.
@sidoughty428
@sidoughty428 9 месяцев назад
Thank you Andy ❤
@stephencarroll230
@stephencarroll230 9 месяцев назад
I like your “airy fairy”description . Was Fripp following Coltrane’s model of mysticism, ecstasy and discipline? Probably.
@TheFierceAndTheDead
@TheFierceAndTheDead 9 месяцев назад
​Was just watching this Andy and thinking i should probably be in a band with this bloke 🙂
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 9 месяцев назад
We will achieve greatness Matt!!!
@Paul_Lenard_Ewing
@Paul_Lenard_Ewing 9 месяцев назад
In the Rock & Roll world there are like all things done in a group of people a leader and followers. Add to that the general attitude is that the dividing line between getting the work needed to be done and having a party at the same is a given. When doing demanding complex music like Prog that borders on the impossible. The music made by Crimson works in spite of all that. Fripp's contribution is that of an army general in the battlefield. He need never apologize. There are no room for self indulgence or self pity in Crimson. Put out or leave .....the door is open, so its goodbye and have a nice day. I heard King Crimson in'69. I immediately as the cliche goes "Got it''. I quit my blues band went into a year of study, practice and discipline. I then jumped the pond to London UK's West End and joined Prog Rock band Tallis. I will not digress into that band except to say we opened for Rush on the merit of the bands music and at least half that audience were Tallis fans. My only advice to the Roberts of this world is to become a singer songwriter not just a guitarist. Write the bass players parts and only work in a trio. I am 76, still actively at it and damn well pleased with the results of my efforts. To those that say not everyone is up to it. I say everyone is that can pull their finger out of their butt and get the work done. .
@colinburroughs9871
@colinburroughs9871 9 месяцев назад
Name drop noted and an eyebrow raised at the claim- I think the decades sorted that out for you
@davidcox3833
@davidcox3833 9 месяцев назад
Brilliant
@neilcreamer8207
@neilcreamer8207 9 месяцев назад
I got hold of the documentary a while back and loved it. Quite apart from everything else that's good about it, it was a marvelous tribute to Bill Rieflin and I think Toby Amies should be congratulated for making it so.
@TobyAmies
@TobyAmies 6 месяцев назад
Toby Amies is very grateful for your comment ❤❤❤
@boxofstars5491
@boxofstars5491 5 месяцев назад
Thanks Andy
@gregoryg3256
@gregoryg3256 9 месяцев назад
🌠 Great Video Andy ! ...~ greg from New York...
@unclesiebsamI
@unclesiebsamI 19 дней назад
He signs the cheques
@jazzouchejazzouche5827
@jazzouchejazzouche5827 9 месяцев назад
Great review Andy Have watched it a few times as well as the extras One scene that I loved was the the scene in which Robert Was talking about failure and his mother dying. Great to see Jamie but no mention of David Cross Bill looked like a great guy,but ironically he was the healthiest looking member of the band. Again great review .
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 9 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@trippknotic
@trippknotic 9 месяцев назад
I switched off when you said spoilers coming but I’ll be back.
@MackeyWilliams
@MackeyWilliams 9 месяцев назад
Andy - I've only watched the intro to your video, but agree 100 percent already that you don't have to be a fan of Krimson to enjoy this documentary. Or at least find it poignant. I feel the same way about the Rush documentary Beyond the Lighted Stage.
@ericarmstrong6540
@ericarmstrong6540 9 месяцев назад
I have not seen this documentary yet. I am looking forward to seeing it. Regarding RF, the impression that I get from your review is that the obstacles RF put in front of Toby Ames are reminiscent of the obstacles a master might put in front of a pupil while teaching. I need to see the documentary. Very engrossing review.
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 9 месяцев назад
Yes exactly
@TobyAmies
@TobyAmies 6 месяцев назад
TBH Toby Amies would have appreciated fewer obstacles but you have a point
@quayscenes
@quayscenes 9 месяцев назад
15:30 🙉🙈 Arghhh!!! I was enjoying this review... I will return after I watch the Doc... I will just say, I get the sense that Andy invests himself in all worth endeavors as though his life depends upon it. It is about so much more than the music. And this is the only way to approach life/art/music!
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 9 месяцев назад
It has been my life
@karimdeane9434
@karimdeane9434 3 месяца назад
What an incredible video! I love your channel. Amazing. Hooked ❤❤❤❤
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much!!
@spicken
@spicken 5 месяцев назад
Hmmmm, there is a lot to think about here. Certainly also in their music, it has this strange aspect of mayhem, a barrage of notes, with an undertone of stilness. Pastoral, is another aspect. Thank you.
@johnnylayton1672
@johnnylayton1672 9 месяцев назад
Yeah prog was & remains the best party music for sure.
@mikermer8284
@mikermer8284 3 месяца назад
No! It's the wonderful voice of Greg Lake - and his innovative way of playing the bass - that makes the difference.
@Saffy-yr8vo
@Saffy-yr8vo Месяц назад
My hard take. Is RF is determined to elevate KC music to be accepted as ‘high’ art. That’s fine he took control. Interesting though that it’s the original version of COTCK which is used as the intro and wrap around in the doc. Greg did leave him in the lurch. He didn’t like Starless but was forced to use it to fill out the album. I’m glad that it’s Wettons. That line up deserved attention for their work. RF then gets more insular experimenting with good musicians. He finally sees he HAS to reinvent KC. Due to his personality it all gets very over serious. The open take. He’s not the first as you say to instigate the silence or space. Eric Satie and ppl way before him sought it. I call it musical prayer. It’s the Ying to the Yang.You can try and explain it away through many sources. Religion. A higher experience. The void. I agree we are permanently aware of the void that we feel awaits us. Maybe that’s all art is. Us ‘doing’ stuff to distract ourselves from the inevitable. Whatever it is we should try and put everything we know into it. My first KC live gig with RF Wetton line up was an experience at 17 which prob changed me quite deeply. Consciously it made me realise there was a big world out there with very interesting creative ppl and I’m daily grateful and honoured I did and continue to experience it. You are entertaining, informative and you made me laugh again!
@richardsutton01
@richardsutton01 9 месяцев назад
I enjoyed the film and I enjoyed your video. My philosophy has changed as I have grown older and now, with only 10 or, if I'm very lucky, 20 years left, things seem to become clearer and clearer. Firstly, there is nothing special in homo sapiens. We are simply an animal like all other animals and when our heart pumps its last beat and the oxygen supply to our brain stops, then that is then end. There is nothing more. I sense that there is a need in most of us to reconcile our lives to some kind of harmony or balance as we approach the end and this inevitably leads us to reflect upon what it is that we will actually leave behind once we are gone. As I approach the end, the belief has grown stronger and stronger in me that the only thing we can leave behind which has potentially real value, over and above the material, is our children and their view on life and how to live it such that they will, in turn, find some kind of balance as they reach their own end. The more I reflect on this, the more I come to understand that, in the end, our children are our only chance. I suspect that Robert's reflections on life, it's meaning and it's passing would be very different if he had ever had children as the "meaning" of his life would then become clearer for him. Yes, music, art and culture are all important things that we can leave behind for those who follow and are probably all a step above the material, but, somehow, these are all simulacrums of what is really important.
@stephencarroll230
@stephencarroll230 9 месяцев назад
4’33”! Life changing for musicians (except Miles).
@stephencarroll230
@stephencarroll230 9 месяцев назад
Have seen the Ginger Baker doc? The poor filmmaker was physically assaulted by that crazy despot! (In another vein, listen to any interview with Cecil Taylor-I’m sure they all regretted that assignment.)
@andrewbradley6941
@andrewbradley6941 9 месяцев назад
Jamie Muir recommended the book to Jon Anderson that was the basis of Topographic Oceans. Like you say, so many in that generation were spiritually searching.
@jdmresearch
@jdmresearch 9 месяцев назад
In Bill Bruford's wedding!
@Emlizardo
@Emlizardo 9 месяцев назад
My favorite Crimson lineup is the one with Jamie. However, it looks like I'll need to give him a good talking-to, because Topographic Oceans is one of the most AWFUL albums ever waxed by any band in the history of recorded music.
@jdmresearch
@jdmresearch 9 месяцев назад
@@Emlizardo Jamie gave the "autobiography of a yogi" book to Anderson, which served as an inspiration, but only the inspiration... I wouldn't blame Jamie.
@Emlizardo
@Emlizardo 9 месяцев назад
@@jdmresearch Well, okay. I'll let him off the hook then.
@jdmresearch
@jdmresearch 9 месяцев назад
@@Emlizardo That's nice from your part :)
@Geops108
@Geops108 9 месяцев назад
Yes, you put your finger on that moment.
@stephencarroll230
@stephencarroll230 9 месяцев назад
Westerners discovered the key to enlightenment without entering a monastery during Fripps generation -LSD. When studying philosophy at university I looked into Bennett, as aCrimson fan and after hearing Fripp lecture, and found him to be a pretty insignificant figure. Many rockers at that time were on a spiritual quest with a variety of leaders. I think Bennets Englishness appealed to Fripp, as opposed to some of those more exotic eastern mystics. I guess he was like the Beats in that he sampled spiritual practices until he found one that fit his personality best. I must say, I have yet to see the doc.
@madcyril4135
@madcyril4135 9 месяцев назад
From u.k. Just replied to one of your posts And read this, and noticed it was you. Ya nailed it, about the beats! And the Englishness of Bennet. Great comment. Take care, our numbers are dwindling.
@stephencarroll230
@stephencarroll230 9 месяцев назад
@@madcyril4135 Cheers!
@davidwylde8426
@davidwylde8426 9 месяцев назад
Part way through. The Bennet quote,( sorry I’m not familiar with him’), sounds like a paraphrasing of a quote by Kierkegaard. I’m suspicious of guru’s and have never read anything that has given me cause to recalibrate. Let’s see where this goes.
@johnreilly9748
@johnreilly9748 9 месяцев назад
Elephant talk!
@wagstaff6135
@wagstaff6135 9 месяцев назад
I don't think there was much Subud left in Bennett's teaching by the time Fripp got to him... (Pak Subuh was the name you were casting around for). Anyway... this is way too huge a conversation for RU-vid comments, lol. But you are totally right that Bennett did open himself up to various things after Gurdjieff. There's some analogy here with the "moldy figs" of jazz vs the fusion people (!)
@drummusicinc4027
@drummusicinc4027 9 месяцев назад
Looking forward to your thoughts on this👍
@winstonsmith8240
@winstonsmith8240 9 месяцев назад
He had a column in the 'Guitar Player ' magazine years ago. He suggested practicing playing the open G string for 6 months... Not 'just babble.' As far back as people put pen to paper, [papyrus] they've tried to deal with the void. Still haven't found an answer.
@Emlizardo
@Emlizardo 9 месяцев назад
Fripp's column, which ran from Sep '89 to Feb '91, was remarkable. And kudos to GP's editor at the time, Tom Wheeler, for publishing it, because it was way outside the bounds of what the majority of that magazine's readership was accustomed to. (The last two installments consisted of Fripp's responses to hostile feedback.)
@thingsmake
@thingsmake 9 месяцев назад
Nice one man, really great thoughts and flow. Whether you call it discipline, ‘the work’, commitment or just ‘being bothered’, it was much harder to put music out in RF’s day because of the gatekeeper culture which dominated the commercial music sector at that time (which I think you’re a fan of?) - so you really had to be bothered to keep pushing yourself to write music, make a band, get a deal etc etc. Now, no none is asking anyone to make more content for RU-vid, so in a way, the commitment question is even tougher - why bother doing it? Who’s going to notice another drop in the internet ocean etc… It feels to me you’re doing a similar thing to old Fripp-face - ie bothering to do something, when it would be much easier not to. Keep on keeping on 🎉
@JC-nc9ys
@JC-nc9ys 9 месяцев назад
Don’t often see music videos that discuss the motivation for making music and beliefs behind it. A captivating watch and looks like it took a bit out of you. As for Gurdjieff and the fourth way, extremely difficult to live by for most people and might not even be relevant in the present times. As for the void, I prefer a more relaxed approach as suggested by Alan Watts/Neville Goddard etc. Thanks for making the video
@chrisdelisle3954
@chrisdelisle3954 9 месяцев назад
I think that it's inherent in your going off-the-cuff that you want what you say to have an order...but there's no way it can have any order given how you're doing it.
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 9 месяцев назад
Yes...no way...so there is chaos. Have you watched many of my videos?
@chrisdelisle3954
@chrisdelisle3954 9 месяцев назад
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer I've watched a lot of your videos. In what you bring out to the world, you give a lot of great information, you touch on some very profound subjects, you're highly entertaining, there's a touch of silliness...and then you have moments as you did in the end of this video that looked like an existential crisis of "what have I just done in this video?" I think you bring a lot of value to the RU-vid world. I am not a musician. So, things that Neely and Beato talk about that are musical in nature are in a language that I cannot understand. But I understand virtually everything you say, despite the chaos you sometimes bring. Keep doing what you do. (And I have a jazz podcast for beginners who are just looking to get into jazz. I finished the first season a couple of years ago - it's called Audio Judo Does Jazz. It basically centered on the artists that I've loved for 30 years now: Trane, Mingus, Monk, Miles, Dolphy, Tatum, Rahsaan, Sonny...most all of it is from 1955-1967. This season, I am approaching many of the holes in my appreciation for jazz: fusion, vocal jazz, Duke Ellington, Kamasi Washington, Shabaka, Bill Evans and some episodes that cover entire decades. I plan on mentioning you in the two fusion videos (one on Miles, the other on...the field, I guess). You sound like quite the expert, in my estimation. Maybe you'll get an extra viewer or two. I don't exactly know if it's a great podcast, but it's done OK. Unlike you, the entire podcast is written. I could not possibly wing it like you can. It's admirable.)
@LOL..eliminant
@LOL..eliminant 9 месяцев назад
13:00 on a bit. the way youve phrased it is profound
@moon_pan_
@moon_pan_ 9 месяцев назад
🤘🏻🖤
@thekeywitness
@thekeywitness 9 месяцев назад
After seeing your review, I watched the doc. Here are my takeaways: 1 -- Having missed the various recent tours due to living in Asia for the past 9 years, I really would have preferred a concert film with a behind-the-scenes featurette focused on Bill Reiflin. 2 - Fripp may be a genius but he's also an insufferable dickhead 3 - Most of Fripp's bandmates were terrified of him, but put up with his nonsense to play great music for appreciative audiences 4 -- Adrian Belew should have known better after 2 stints in KC 5 -- Bill Bruford was wise to retire and Trey Gunn was smart to move on
@ulfingvar1
@ulfingvar1 3 месяца назад
A little superficial, are we?
@adamwright7954
@adamwright7954 9 месяцев назад
Is there anywhere in the states to purchase/stream? All I’m finding is DVD/Blu-Ray from Amazon or the KC online shop.
@TomFazzini
@TomFazzini 9 месяцев назад
Brill
@lawrencewittenberg6594
@lawrencewittenberg6594 9 месяцев назад
Elephant Talk...!!!!
@zootallures6470
@zootallures6470 9 месяцев назад
_Bruford quote nr.1_ [it was very long ago, when he made Earthworks so I don’t remember it well]: You don’t have to be like this, you don’t have to be like that “and you don’t have to be neurotic to enjoy the music of Earthworks.” Hinting about the music of KC. _Bruford quote nr.2_ [from the documentary]: The Americans [Belew and Levin] went out and had fun while he and Fripp were exercising and worrying about the coming show. The Americans came back and played a perfect show. Bruford called it neurosis, I am saying that tons of stiffness and rigidness have always been a part of Crimson, because of Fripp. He could not cope with such a free spirit as Jaimie Muir and he literally messed with his instruments, as Muir says. So he left. Other people have also left while others [Belew] were kicked. You talked about the part when Jakszyk is asked a question by the film maker and Fripp answers instead. But even more revealing are the seconds before Fripp’s answer. After hearing the question Jakszyk turns back to check if Fripp is there and will hear his answer… Belew said that Fripp surrounded himself with people whom he can control. The musicians we see in the documentary are not part of a “band” but some individuals playing together - with Fripp/for Fripp. As you said, the parts about Bill Rieflin give this documentary another dimension. As does the inclusion of the nun. I would have liked to hear more from the most balanced [imo] person in the band, Tony Levin. And by the end, you’ve also had your Bennett-moment.
@davidwylde8426
@davidwylde8426 9 месяцев назад
Haha that’s a fuckin way to close a vid,( especially if you’re a Brit I’d imagine… although I’m aware that people from other cultures can ‘out-Brit’ us just when we least/most need it). The void is a human construct. Everything is. The neumenon however is the world beyond human construct and thus the void would need reframing within our more commonplace language and philosophy. All good though …. On a roll Mr.Edwards …. You sure you haven’t been watching more Ren ? I know I’ve been opening up to more Steven Wilson.
@bakeone4406
@bakeone4406 9 месяцев назад
At times Crimson was undeniably heavy, dark, cutting edge and cerebrally powerful. Fripp/King Crimson hasn't always stayed at an apex level and at times seemed to be fairly redundant. Bands like Univers Zero, Present and Tipographica have revealed possibilities that expand on what King Crimson put out at their peak moments. There are also many 20th century "classical" composers whose works at times dwarf King Crimson in terms of complexity, nuance and range of expression. It's great that Fripp and his project came along and made music, but if they never existed, it's not like there would be a huge void or a significant diminishment of the musical landscape in the late 20th century. I've been a big Crimson fan for decades, but have to acknowledge that they're too often looked at as a uniquely omnipotent entity by a poorly informed fan base.
@stephencarroll230
@stephencarroll230 9 месяцев назад
I was a big fan until Three of a Perfect Pair. It seemed like they were still trying to stay relevant there and after. I did enjoy Thrak, but that was a lifetime later.
@madcyril4135
@madcyril4135 9 месяцев назад
@@stephencarroll230 From u.k. Totally agree with you. It’s the early albums for me, sinfield lyrics. Then the Palmer James, Bruford, Wetton, period. I sort of bailed out after RED, I read Fripp was going to change the name of the band to Discipline, he should have done, different path. I’ve tried after Red, and don’t get it! Going to see Fripp and his Missus soon, only because I probably won’t get the chance to see the man again. Take care, our numbers are dwindling!
@stephencarroll230
@stephencarroll230 9 месяцев назад
@@madcyril4135 How meaningful were those Sinfield lyrics as a teen, and still true:"The fate of all mankind, I see, is in the hands of fools"? I did like Crimson when I saw them live in 1981 (no drugs).Each susequent time was less impressive. The new wave drumming of Beat was a little tough to get used to, but totally redeemed by Requiem. Take care!
@madcyril4135
@madcyril4135 9 месяцев назад
@@stephencarroll230 Hope you have listened to sinfields only solo album from 1973 called STILL. And when re released decades later called STILLUSION. A masterpiece! Wetton on bass, check out the live footage of sinfield performing SONG OF THE SEAGOAT. On the old grey whistle, from 1973! On RU-vid. Take care.
@markweston-op4hx
@markweston-op4hx 7 месяцев назад
Re:Larks Tongues cover art-Talk of the void is very much the tibetan buddhist concept of Shunyavada-its a metaphysic only realized through intense spiritual discipline. Its not so much something one can discuss in a space of twenty minutes. Good job otherwise
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