People keep asking about multiplayer games, so I'll pin a comment here. In the case of local (split-screen) multiplayer, the world is shifted to one viewpoint while one viewport is being drawn, then shifted to the other player's viewpoint while their viewport is being drawn. In the case of online multiplayer, the server running the game doesn't have to render graphics so it doesn't have to deal with keeping track of dozens of differently oriented worlds. Each player connected to the game just renders the world shifted to their own personal point of view.
Ye, but the in game world doesn't move around you. It's essentially a camera with a variable in world position/the player's position, and that afore-mentioned camera has a filter applied to each player camera/the on screen position causing percieved dilation of in world positions? Or am I trippin?
I heard another interesting reason to fix player at 0 is that otherwise in games with HUGE maps going to the edge (i.e., being far away from 0) would result in significant floating point errors constantly occurring on your coordinates, i.e., laggy and inconsistent movement
You want to put the center of the world at 0.0 im a game, first of all, because its logicaly convenient but also because you want the most furthest away edge of the world to not be some large number that would start losing precision. But this is world space coordinates.
@@air6699 IT happens in mamy games. For example all the Valve games like half life, counter Strike etc. You can noclip and just fly inyo the void for hours till your weapon models start glitching out
If I remember right, Outer Wilds actually does this in a double sense, both the screen-space AND world-space coords of the player are [0,0,0], with everything in the simulation having a force applied opposite of the intended player movement, Planet Express Ship style. You're not jetpacking away from Timber Hearth, instead Timber Hearth is flying away from _you,_ and returning to you when you stop jetpacking. Additionally, one of the reasons behind a key gameplay mechanic is apparently that the orbital physics system (with it moving everything relative to you) is only guaranteed stable up to a certain length of time before it breaks down. Kerbal Space Program doesn't have this temporal limitation because the world-space coords are untampered with (the [0,0,0] in world space isn't the player-ship, of which there can be many ships at arbitrary relative locations, but Kerbol itself, the system's star, is at the world-space origin as expected).
The best explanation I've heard about graphic's matrices, I had even understood how they work! Great video, and congrats for the animations, they help a lot.
First time I actually understood matrices. Thank you very much. I hope you gain more subscribers soon! You certainly deserve it. Your raytracing video is one of the best videos I have ever seen on youtube, and this video was extremely helpful.
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Good explanation, but the title is just false (and misleding looking at some comments about the multiplayer lmao). Creating a 2d projection of the 3d virtual space cannot be considered moving the world.
This is such a relaxing, educational, and well-produced video. Love the music, the sound effects as things appear, and the calmness in your voice. Really glad this popped up in my feed.
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A form of transformation matrices was used in the SNES’s Mode 7 graphics. Since it was limited to a 2×2 matrix, perspective effects like in F-Zero, Pilotwings, and Super Mario Kart needed to change the scale of the matrix every scanline.
Damn, I would have needed you... like... 10 years ago when I first fell into VTK and the cursed world of 4x4 Matrizes and later quaternions. WHERE WERE YOU BACK THEN?!
Found you from your quantum computing videos and just watched this! Your content is so underrated!! You need to keep making content man, your animations are descriptive and intuitive and you are amazing at explaining these concepts!! Keep up the great work!
Just stumbled upon this channel through the ReSTIR video, and I was astonished how well and accurately this rather intricate algorithm with its mathematical quirks was explained - and then it turns out that all your videos are engineered in a great way, making all the maths that other tend to run from so tangible that I would not hesitate promoting those videos to any interested 14 year old. As someone who spent quite some time in lecturing undergraduate maths & computer science, and as someone who always was struggling with the inability of math professors to point out all the cool fields of applications and implications of the abstract theory they teach, I see a lot of potential in these kind of videos, to not only motivate CS students for maths, but also to motivate math students and fostering their intuition about what they have to deal with on a daily basis. Graphics may be great for this purpose, as it not only is exciting for a wide-spread part of the population, but it also covers the most important major fields: Linear algebra in case of raster graphics as shown in this video, stochastics & statistics in case of monte-carlo ray-tracing, applied numerics in case of discretization and precision handling. Going further, simulation (e.g. for games) is very analysis-heavy, and finally crypto & implicit surface rendering touches very interesting subjects in (non-linear) algebraic geometry. Basically, you could take a video such as this one, and then start linking it to topics undergraduate math students may struggle with. For instance, in this video you already have the foundation laid for core concepts in projective geometry, by messing around with an affine chart. Now include all the rest (points at infinity/directions, duality of points and lines, e.t.c), show how they relate to graphics, spend months to produce a video about it, and end up with more (probably criminally underrated) content to receive eternal gratitude of the few math students that study projective geometry. In an ideal world, dedicated lecturers would do this as part of their job and get paid for it, but I doubt that they will ever be able/allowed to slice off enough time for that - at least it would not be possible in the environment I graduated in. Interestingly, although the whole graphics domain is so math-heavy, my impression is that most graphics people, at least those I know personally, still tend to not think in formulas, singularities and distributions, but rather in algorithms, artifacts and noise - neglecting that 50% and more of their work is pure math. After leaving academia, I now am the only guy with a mostly maths background (plus a bit graphics / computer science) in our render engine team. Usually, its me who "translates" the state-of-the-art papers to pseudo-code, actual code and/or graphics speech. I will gladly refer to your videos here and there. :) Unsurprisingly, the tendency of graphics people thinking in terms of visuals and not mathematical abstractions also can be seen in research here and there. When reading the original ReSTIR paper, it is quite apparent that the author's home base is the graphics domain. In contrast, the ReSTIR PT follow-up is written up in a much more rigorous style regarding math and abstractions, and thus is able to completely cover the original ReSTIR work as a by-product, while introducing a mathematical framework that is so much more powerful than the application of ReSTIR to direct lighting.
Nice one. I don't like how matrices are always explained in a way rotation around x looks like this, translation looks like this. It helped me a lot to multiply matrix by vector by hand and to see the patern. First columns of transformation matrix tells you what happens to unit vector x. 2nd and 3rd columns are for unit vectors y,z. Forth column tells you what happens to unit vector w. You can decompose any vector to sum of perpendicular unit vectors x,y,z,w and scalars. Then you can multiply scalars by matrix columns, they will transform into four new vectors. By adding them together, you get the result of transformation. The last one (w) is perfectly consistent - take unit vector (or zero), in the fourth dimension, because why not. It will transform into three dimensions and add to the result - and that's the translation. From now, put w=0 for vectors and w=1 for points (cause vectors have no origin, they must be immune to translations). That's all that you need to know. From now rotation matrices are not weirdly placed sines and cosines with plus or minus signs, you can just draw a picture of unit vectors x and y rotated by 30 degrees and write them into column of matrix. And multiplying matrices is not a magic, but transforming base vectors in columns of the matrix on the right by a matrix on the left. IMPORTANT: all above assumes column vectors. NOTE: it's hard to explain the part with matrix*columnVector without seeing it. Try yourself with column vector (1 0 0 0) and so on, this one is really affected only by the first column.
writing something as simple as a rotating cube in modern OpenGL makes you learn a lot about computer graphics, and this is one of the things you'll learn. highly recommend it to anyone who wants to learn this the practical way
The introduction of the w vector and particularly fixing its value at 1 to represent eucledean space reminds me a lot of the notion of a "euclidean point" in 3D Projective Geometric Algebra. Have you ever looked into that?
The addition of the 4th unit vector is usually called "homogenous coordinates," and PGA uses the exact same idea, but, IMO, gives a more geometric interpretation of each unit trivector. It also gives a more compact representation of transformations than matrices, sometimes called "dual-quaternions", but it also can't represent all the same transformations as matrices, namely PGA motors/dual-quaternions don't allow scaling or shearing. CGA does enable uniform scaling, but is also just its own beast.
I love the amount of nuance you fit into the first minute of the video! When I first started working with shaders directly everything was laid out in general terms without specifics, it took a lot of time to piece together what was actually happening; I wish I'd had this video then instead of now!
Your channel is exactly what I am trying to emulate with my teaching style. I want to write lectures that are in this format that I can move through in class. Adding you to my pile of ideas. Excited to see what else you make
That's an incredible goal! :) Taught like this I even cared to know more and asked myself questions about the subject. ... and I've failed math for biologists twice and then dropped out of my bio degree to do languages instead lol
Minor correction, on 2:13, that's actually the Normalized Device Coordinates or NDC From NDC you then convert to Screen Space Coordinates given the display resolution Which would be easy to do since you only need to multiply the X and Y with the Width and Height (halved depending on the center point of the renderer) I think that OpenGL for example takes the NDC matrix and then converts it to Screen Space internally
When you’re importing pixel art into your engine or animation software of choice (Minecraft textures in the intro) make sure to turn off filtering or set your filter to “nearest”. That way your textures don’t come out blurry. There also might be an issue with your edge margins but I can’t tell with the blur. Great video overall
Do you realize that you just gave a very good matrix 101 lesson better than a college math professor😅 Well done on using game as examples the way you did👏
This was awesome. I just began learning about matrices more in depth in my Calc 3 class and this actually makes me understand them much more, thank you!
and when the game world is matched against an ellipsoid, it is scalled to the inverted dimensions of that one to make collision detection against a sphere instead which is much simpler to calculate
This is so beautifully explained it almost made me emotional. If someone had explained it so intuitively to me when I was young I actually would've ended up loving Maths.
This is so cool, I have been studying gamedev for a really long time but the concepts are viewed from a complicated lens, thx for making things so simple & easy to understand, a lot of things were review for me but even in reviewing it under such an easy to understand lens it helped broaden my awareness of the concept ty so much.
I really appreciate your content man, I've been learning maths for 5 years in high school but I can't even begin to comprehend what the hell am I supposed to do with these. Your explainations shed light on how I can relate to what I learn. Love from Malaysia
Dude! This really opened up my understanding of maths! Thank you! Most helpful! I've been trying (with little success) to improve my math education; baby steps, I guess!
The content of the video is great but the title bugs me a little. Maybe it should be like "In video games, camera never move when rendering." or something? But I understand the title will be less interesting. Anyways, I learnt a lot from the video. Nice job!
Perhaps an important note to add to not confuse people too much. The world doesnt move around the player when it comes to the how the game works internally. However it does move around the player when it comes to the rendering.
The title is just false. Obviously the definition of movement in this scenario is debatable, but anyway, if we want to display player in some relative offset to the surrounding world, the multiplication by transform matrix is required, hance 'moving' thr player mesh in relation to the surrounding world
I learned more about math in the 10 minutes you explained matrices than I did in my last 4 years of school, like Fr tho my math teachers/proffs could never explain a new concept/tool in this way. I hadn't learned about matrices b4 but essentially it ties in everything i was learning in geometry and algebra my last few years and makes it meaningful and understandable, and part of that is bc hes giving us real world applications of the math which always helps. great video, thank you!
This was a very nice explanation overall, allthough sometimes I felt the need to pause and do some small calculations on a paper to exemplify what you said so I could fully understand. Those were the times when I feel like you took some big leaps for a person that is not currently in touch with linear algerba (like myself). Especially during the introduction of the w vector, some more drawn out calculations would be very welcomed. It's impossible for me to not point out some resemblance with 3brown1blue, and I mean it in the nicest possible way, since I consider 3b1b to be the best channel for explaining anything mathematic with very good visual examples/demonstrations. Keep up the good work, I hope my commentary is useful in any way.
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Well I don't know, but the title might be a little bit misleading. During view transform and projection, yes the "scene" is changing according to the location and view angle of the player. However, in the beginning of the whole rasterizatin, the player does move to get his final object coordinate. You may say the player doesn't move in the drawing pipeline but not that he doesn't move at all.
Is the tool you use to visualize the vectors available somewhere on the internet, or it was all made by yourself? Very great video, vectors were something very hard for me to understand since I've relatively skipped over them for the past few years, but with this short video you helped me a lot to realize they are not that hard! Thank you so much!
Technical correction: usually, in 2D games and 3rd-person 3D games, the player actually does move on the screen some amount. There is a camera that tracks close to the player that moves instead.
As a videogame-enjoyer, this is one of those topics which I'm very glad there are other people around who are interested in/understand this much more than I.
I was accidentally found your video , I learned lot of concepts. You are Opened my eyes from lies & myth (I Believed the player is explore the world )🙂
Very good explanation. Easy to understand and filled with valuable information. But i gotta add, that what you described was a "translation". A transformation includes scaling and rotating as well
I've always found matrices weird and abstract, especially matrix multiplication. I do understand them, but I couldn't really link them to any concrete applications, so it was something I would tend to forget really quickly. However, this video has been really enlightening, showing an actual practical application of them! I'm looking forward to watching more of your videos!
I don’t even do much computer programming, but this is super interesting. Thanks for explaining something I’ll probably never use, you have my subscription.
Something to note about this is that it is unique to raster pipelines, the method where you draw objects by projecting triangles & potentially other shapes into screen space then drawing them with scan lines. With ray traced pipelines it is significantly easier to generate rays in screen space then transform them back into world space for the ray cast. The story doesn't quite end there though because a lot of ray traced pipelines only check if the rays are likely to hit the objects in world space. The actual intersections are computed by transforming the rays into object space on intersection candidates. This means you can create multiple instances of the same model with different transformation matrices, but only pay the storage costs for one copy and only pay the transformation costs of the ray interacting with the object if it is actually needed.
From a technical standpoint the oposite is the case. Shifting arround the world instead of the player doesn't usually happen (certainly not in minecraft) if you look at the floating point error related bugs in game you can keep those two appart. I guess you can actually use a worldspace with the player being the point (0,0,0) Take minecraft where the player moves (just like in most games) when you reach the far ends of the coordinate system, the further away you are from the center of the world (0,0,0) the buggier stuff becomes, see minecraft bedrock were you just fall through the world because hitboxes get soo messy that there is an actual hole inbetween block. Now compare that to outer wilds where the universe moves arround the player, the player is always (0, 0, 0) and the world gets moves arround you, that means the further planets are away from you the more error is gonna be in their orbit calculations and they get chaotic. But that also means the most precision is gonna be were its needed, right next to the player.
No matter how much I read online I had a hard time understanding matrices, this one video was as if someone blew away the fog clouding my mind on matrices.
it's interesting to note as well that the evolution of screens themselves has influence in these things. i.e an older game that gets a new resolution scale but the ui doesn't scale because it's set to a certain pixel size, and Marathon's image projection rendering will have some surfaces that would appear more visually 3d as a result of the round monitors
finally a video that explains matrixes! always watching computer science videos just going along with "and then you multiply matrix A with matrix B" and just nodding my head. well now I know
man. now I remember what it was like trying to comprehend algebra, only I can actually take in the information, due to how concise your explanations are. keep it up guy.
I'd love a video about why we'd chose a triangle mesh :D Also, what is that 2D game with the blue haired character? I cannot believe how I studied matrices and vectors in uni and thought it was So Boring. Like most math in my courses. But watching this, my first thought when we scaled up that mesh of the teapot was "ooh I wonder if the volume of it changed at the same scale". I've never cared about any math question in my life, and now I find out there is a way to get me INTERESTED?? I wish more topics had been framed in a way that makes me care to know the answer, this is amazing.
Triangle is the only shape that can be precicely described. Meaning there is only one way to draw a triangle with the given vertex coordinates. For something like a square there are two ways two draw it. If you pull one of its corners up - it's either "folded" along a diagonal line from that corner to the opposite one, or along a diagonal line between two other corners. But that's mostly because we can't draw curvy lines between those verts. Well, we can, there's a thing called NURBS, but that is a bit too expensive and hard to work with for something like games, which require realtime rendering and very complex models like humans, fantasy monsters and so on.
I know exactly how you feel. I'm in my first year of a master's program, and it's only recently that I started to care about things I previously deemed extremely boring and useless. Partially thanks to a relatively interesting scientific research I do (deterministic chaos), but mostly because of content like this that somehow managed to elude me when it was most needed. Now I have to frantically catch up on a great many things
holy shit, i love when my two favourite things, maths and video games get combined. also u showed some based games in this video (crosscode and outer wilds
Oh boy, I rememberwhen I learned that matrices are used to perform 3D transformations. It was the last bit of high school math I used in my job as a programmer. Kids complain they'll never use the math they learn...
While I'm familiar with basic linear algebra on a theoretical level, and have definitely applied them in practical scenario's, it never felt intuitive to me. The "translation" of matrices and vectors at 5:31 really helped me pierce through that!
