Incredible: Christian vs Atheist Debate (White & Durbin vs Clark & Ellis) 

G'day maybe bring an Muslim and have a peaceful discussion :)

Towards eternity gives an explanation to numerous of atheistic point of believe

Those two christians are idiots that didn't answer the question or show a shred of proof beyond fairytales. Rediculous.

Or - alternatively - you could not support this mission and instead study science and realise that the corners left in the Universe for the God of the gaps to hide in are receding on a daily basis. And let's all be thankful for that shall we? I mean c'mon people. We've got to grow out of this stuff. We're not bronze age peasants anymore. We learned the Earth is round. We learned how biology works. We figured out the composition of stars. When are we going to put the nonsense of gods to bed?

@@jamesm6887 The Tawheed first Pillar of Islam (the one ness of God.) If you want I can show how Universe was created / started. Maybe if you copy and paste you might get a PHD in whatever. This is Tawheed (by one of the Infalliable Imams) I heard al-Ridha, Ali b. Musa, peace be upon him, speak thus on the subject of Oneness of Allah: "The first step toward worship of Allah is to know Him, and the root of that knowledge is in recognizing His Oneness; And the principle of that recognition lies in negating all definitions from Him; Every reason guides to the fact that anything defined is created (and not the creator), And every created one testifies that it has a creator, who is not created. The one, who is not contingent, is the One, timeless in eternity. So he who ascribes attributes to Him has not (truly) worshipped Him, And he who knows Him by similitude has not understood His oneness; And one who compares Him (to anything) has not understood the true essence, nor has he confirmed Him if he sets any limit for Him; And he who points towards Him with any of his senses is, in fact, aiming at something other than Him; So, he who likens Him (to others) does not actually mean Him, and he who considers Him a part of the whole, does not actually know Him, and he who imagines Him is indeed deluded. Everything, which can be encompassed by knowledge and imagination, is created, and everything that is dependent upon others for its existence is an effect. By His creation, we are guided to His existence, and by reason we believe in (the necessity of) knowing Him, and by the innate nature (of human beings) His Proof is established. His creation is a veil between Him and His creatures, and He is distinct from them by His disparateness. His beginning of their creation is the proof that He has no beginning, for the one who is begun (in time) cannot be a (timeless) beginner; So, all the names used for Him are mere interpretations, and acts attributed to Him are meant for common understanding. Indeed, he who defines or sets a limit to Him, displays ignorance about Him, and he who tries to encompass Him transgresses the bounds. And he who makes a surmise of His Being, misses Him (altogether). Whoever says 'How is He?' has indeed invoked His likeness, and whoever asks 'Why?' has indeed indulged in explaining Him away. And he who says 'When?' sets a time limit for Him, and he who asks 'In what?' tries to contain Him. And whoever asks 'Where to?' confines Him, and whoever asks 'Till when?' indeed fixes (an imagined) goal for Him. Thus whoever fixes a goal for Him, limits Him, and to set a limit for Him is to disbelieve in Him. The discrepancy among the creatures does not effect any variation in Him, and the limitation of the limited ones creates no confine for Him. He is One but not as number, and He is Manifest but not by was of associating; He is Evident but not by way of being visible. He is intrinsic but not by separation, and He is apart but not by distance. And He is near but not by proximity. He is (truly) subtle, but not in body, He Exists but not from nothingness. He is the doer but not under any duress, and He is the assessor but not yielded to pondering; He is designer without needing any movement. He Wills without being driven by resolves or determination, He perceives without depending on any senses. He hears and sees without any organ. Time does not accompany Him, places do not contain Him, slumber does not overtake Him, attributes do not define Him, and implements do not benefit Him. His Existence precedes time, His Being precedes void and nothingness. His Eternity precedes all beginning. By His creating similar things, it is established that He has no likeness, and by His creating dissimilarities among things, it is evident that He has no contrast. And by equation among things, it is understood that He has no equal. He contrasted light with darkness, severe winter with hot wind. He puts together things which are divergent, and separates things which are closer to each other. Thus by separating, He guides us to its Separator and by putting things together, He guides to its Integrator. Allah, Most High, says (in Qur'an): 'We have created a pair, that perchance you might remember.'(51:49) The meaning of Sustainer applied to Him when there was no one sustained, and the essence of (all) Divine Power belonged to Him when there was no worshipper, and He was the Knower when there was nothing knowable. He did not merit the meaning of being Creator after having created, nor did He become the Originator after having originated. He is not caused to be absent by 'since,' nor is He brought nearer by 'indeed.' And 'perchance' does not veil Him, nor is He limited in time by 'when.' He is not contained by 'then,' nor is He accompanied by 'with.' Every effect that is seen in the creation does not exist in its Creator, and all that is contingent in it is not possible in its Maker. Movement and Stillness do not occur in Him. And how can they occur in Him Who caused them? How could that which He initiated return to be applied to Him? In that case, there would have risen discrepancy in His Being, and the meaning of Eternal would be inapplicable to Him, and the word Creator would have had its opposite meaning. If He were bound by rear, He would have been bound by fore also, and if completeness were solicited for Him, then incompleteness would have been necessarily conceivable for Him. How could He be worthy of being called Eternal if He were contingent? How can He initiate things if He Himself needed to be initiated? In that case, the signs of being created would be evident in Him, and He would have changed from being the Indicator into the one indicated. Any statement contradicting this truth has no proof, nor do the questions arising therefrom have any answers. There is no god but Allah, Most High and Most Mighty. (And may Allah bless His Prophet, Muhammad and his pure Progeny.)"

Well thats nice Dan. I wonder, is a funny feeling in your chest, which is clearly just hearsay, all you've got or do you have a single scrap of credible evidence of your god?

I'm glad you found some way out of your depression and thoughts of suicide. That's the main thing.

@@nickjones5435 As soon as you can produce a single scrap of evidence that life can be born out of non life. Next time a rock gives birth to a bacteria whose great great (xalot) grandchild is a human child!

@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr So your answer is NO ehhh? Why would i need to do that sonny? Did i make that claim? Are there people in society denigrating DECENT PEOPLE like homosexuals, indoctrinating INNOCENT children, threatening people with torture in a hell they cant demonstrate, extorting money from simple minded people and claiming moral authority on the basis of unsubstantiated claims of life coming from rocks? Or is that just Christians? How PITIFUL is your childish childish claims of an omnipresent omnibenevolent god who wants a relationship with me when you can't provide even the tinniest scrap of credible evidence?

Daniel, as a professing Christian myself, I look forward to seeing you in heaven so that you may tell me all about your walk with Christ in this foreign land we call this life. After all, we will have eternity glorifying God in heaven :).

If that is what "led you",.....okay. But watching this _one_ person should never be "a reason". Not saying it was,...but it is implied here. And what kind of "atheist" were you? What did Clark actually say that "caused you to become a Christian"? I'm both intrigued, yet dumbfounded.

@@DRayL_ I was hard-core "God isn't real" atheist. The incompetence of this guy is what set in motion me becoming Christian. It still was a year long process. The guys arguments were so bad it made me question my own views and opened up the windows to hear the Christian side with sincere ears

@@kinglame2112 I have had "sincere ears" for many years. I've seen no piece of good evidence that even remotely caused me to consider Christianity. And the more I learned about the ideologies, the further away from it I have become. I find it strange how people can view the same exact thing, yet draw completely opposite conclusions.

@@kinglame2112 amen !!!

@@DRayL_ sometimes we don’t want to see the truth 😊

Agreed. You can tell Dr Clark is a bit confused if he thinks getting into another man's face is a safe practice.

That isn’t “patience”. That is false confidence and assertive posturing. I think he is helped by the fact that he doesn’t think deeply about the things he says. Ignorance allows him to feel confident. “How do you explain logic” is a pot-smoker’s epiphany. He ought to have run that by an actual philosopher before he said that in public, but I guess it works for him just to have his befuddled opponents stuck at “that can’t be right”. Bonus if you can frustrate them into a rage.

@@somexp12 lol I dont agree with you, but the way you just said what you said was pretty good rhetoric, so I have to give you some kudos. Lol

@@somexp12 Your comments about how you think Jeff Durbin debates is completely irrelevant to the statement I made. Anyone keeping their composure when a doctor (twice your age and in a professional setting) is rushing up to you with antifreeze saying, “show me! Show me! Show me! Show me! Show me! Show me!” Is manifesting the very height of patience. It doesn’t matter what side of the debate you are on. Any (self-respecting) atheist would repudiate such childishness. And if you have any disagreement that, that’s fine but you then loose all right to complain about any Christian that acts immature to you.

Adam Kakos I told you exactly how it was relevant. That *wasn’t patience*. Jeff Durbin has a strategy of being dense, rude, entitled and calm about aggravating people. It is easy to remain calm when the chaos was engineered by you. Clark was unfortunately just more vulnerable to it than others. If Clark did those stunts to me out of nowhere it would take some doing to avoid reacting. If, however, I had just spent two hours faking a wisdom I don’t possess, I would count the provocation as “mission accomplished”. Even when I was s Christian, Durbin and White would have caused me to bristle. I didn’t respect those types even then.

The issue at hand is sin and God’s nature of being just. Sin brings suffering (the pleasure is short term, and the suffering is long term-on earth and in hell forever). God brings Righteousness (may have short term suffering followed by long term pleasure- on earth and in Heaven). If you love yourself repent of your sins (lying, hatred, unforgiveness, sexual sins, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, stealing, dishonouring your parents etc) & believe in Jesus for forgiveness of sins. (Jesus died on the Cross as a sacrifice and defeated death by rising from the dead)

Right! lol

@@tinadehart3526 My post is serious man, you are not reading this by accident) All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents, unbelief etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY

@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363I wasn’t even responding to you.

@@tinadehart3526 You are not reading this by accient, Jesus loves you and is calling you to Himself If I knew you were in the way of incoming traffic id pull you out of the way. Likewise, if you were in a burning building, I’d pull you out as well. What you don’t realise is your soul is on fire hence the preaching. The word of God is offensive to you right now but once you become a Christian you will realise the awesomeness of God and what love really is.

I used to be a Christian. Now after listening to durbin and white I'm definitely an atheist. Why would anyone be a Christian after listening to two charlatans having to play childish word games cos they can't provide even the tinniest scrap of credible evidence of your god?

Amen 🙏🏾😂

@jaydes WHAT? I used to be a Christian. Now after listening to durbin and white I'm definitely an atheist. Why would anyone be a Christian after listening to two charlatans having to play childish word games cos they can't provide even the tinniest scrap of credible evidence of your god?

Lol amen 🙏

@Laila Erakat lol why on earth would you be a Christian after listening to those two charlatans?

Jrgn Dthtns amen 🙏🏽

Jrgn Dthtns I love this

Amen

Im legit mad that i cant copy paste this from my phone

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Darkness hates the Light.

I can HOPE for him. But you have to WANT salvation..

Psalm 34:8 Taste and see that the LORD is good; blessed is the one who takes refuge in him.

read my comment and reply to my comment on the conversation.. that was an awfully disrespectful way to start the conversation by saying that even arguing rationally was taking out of the theistic playbook. Hey I've argued with atheists and christians alike. I've even see Dr. White get just as combative against oneness (modalist) debaters, though perhaps not as expressive (which some people are more expressive than others). Understand why he got upset. Then maybe understand that if from the get go you were under attack that you would remain emotionless. Hey I get it, the atheist will go just as hard at the Christian. D'sousa (if I remember right) and Dennis Prager arguing against Hitchens was similar outcome, though Hitchens came across as arrogant, at least D'sousa and Prager remained much more philosophically focused, while it was Hitchens that used presuppositional arguments and even changed the requirements of the answer of a question after he watched Prager answer it with ease. (there was a reward involved). It is interesting that at least some atheists (Atkins comes to mind) have a vitriolic hatred for even the implication that a supernatural power is involved. However, that doesn't mean that the best way to start a debate is to presuppose the other sides arguments, and then delegitimize the conversation, and then pretend shock when people are not happy. That's just manipulation at that point. It's like telling your kids you're going swimming to get their cooperation in leaving the house, and then go to your fishing hole instead. If you want a meltdown, lie to your kids. You can feign their immaturity if you want, but really it just means you're an asshole. They are just responding to the natural frustration of having been told a lie... Or in the case of Clark, that he was told what his position was and it was deemed unworthy of considering, before he even said it.

He is a reprobate. Jeremiah 6:30 Romans chapter 1 reprobate

JESUS is a Joke because •14 BOOKS• of the BIBLE were ✦DELETED✦ from the Bible over the first centuries of Christianity by MAN! (look it up for yourself) HOW can •14• books of "GOD'S WORD" be deleted by MAN and you still believe that the BIBLE is the *unchanged,* untainted, error free word of GOD?🤔 EVEN the image of Jesus is a *FALSE!* ABSOLUTELY ~NOWHERE~ in the BIBLE in *•ANY•* scripture is there a ✦DETAILED✦ physical description of Jesus! HOWEVER, today there are ✦DETAILED✦ pictures, paintings and statues of JESUS! The images of Jesus that you see today in MILLIONS of Christian churches and homes is ✦100%✦ MAN MADE! Your Bible says that making and worshipping false or graven images of GOD is idolatry and an *ABOMINATION!* I guess millions of Christians are going to HELL and don't even know it!

Yep, unfortunately he is way to closed minded. Even is Jesus tapped him on the shoulder he still would refuse to believe!

@@angelacustead4205 if Jesus tapped him on the shoulder, how would he *KNOW* its Jesus? •NOWHERE• in *any* scripture in the bible is there a complete physical description of Jesus....and the pictures and images that exist today of Jesus are *100% MAN MADE!* I also wouldn't know Jesus if he tapped me on the shoulder!🤔

Ohhh! I think one would know if the mighty Jesus Christ son of God tapped them on the shoulder!

@@angelacustead4205 If a man tapped you on the shoulder and he was short, kind of chubby with a double chin and a receding hairline and said, Hi I'm your savior Jesus". You would take one look at him and say, "You're not Jesus". You would say that because you have been praising a FALSE, Man Made image of Jesus *all* of your life. You will be looking for the fake, man-made image of Jesus and you will deny a Jesus that doesn't fit that false image. Maybe God will forgive you for worshipping false and graven images of him. The bible states that it is an *ABOMINATION* to God and you deserve to go to hell.

He is angry with dishonest presuppositionalism.

He wants to not believe in it.

@@Tinesthia Dishonest? ... he is just mad with presuppositionalism. Its not dishonest. Your comment is dishonest.

Because he doesn't know the truth and thinks we are as gullible as a child who believes in Santa

Ope, we got an edgelord.

Yup Honeatly now is the best time to be Christian so you definitely should give your life to Christ trust me it's worth it and God definitely wants you to .. you should get to know him more do more research

Well said.

@Skydaddy Myth-Busters "and that of many" comprises of 16% of the global population. By 2050, that figure is expected to decrease to 13%.

@Skydaddy Myth-Busters my experience is I went to atheism from Christianity and went hard…then after I came to my senses I realized the truth and repented/committed my life to Christ.

@@gavinhurlimann2910 Which is to be expected, there were more religious than non-religious and a lot of people raise their children according to their beliefs. Doesn't mean god exists, just means that there are many dumb people.

Partially??? 😉

lol!

🤣 so good! 🤣

Morally and spiritually I would say that man is completely blind

Yes for sure.

Atheism is the practice of suspending the acknowledgement of the existence of gods until sufficient evidence can be presented. It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstatiated claims, especially extraordinary ones. Now would you kindly explain how it is foolish to employ such sketicism? I have never heard a response to this question. Please be the first one that actually reads the question carefully and answers the actual question.

@Jack Brown -The BLIND FAITH argument from Atheist's is laughable.. because even Atheists display "BLIND FAITH".. as so do all humans to some extent. If you get on an airplane and fly in it you have "blind faith" it's going to not fall out of the sky. Sit in a chair? You have blind faith it's not going to break under your weight...

Claps in Cosmos: "May the Void observe your soul."

@Jack Brown I know who God is, and I know the end of Divinity.

@@G8rfan61 That is the original intent, but... Time muddies the water.

that part honestly made me laugh

oh and a lot more parts but that one stood out lol

😂🤣😂🤣 I'm surprised he didn't say Jesus couldn't exist because the letter J doesn't exist in Hebrew and didn't come into existence until about six hundred or so years ago... that's always been my favorite 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Last time I heard that one was from a kid about 14 years ago in school...

I couldn't believe it when he said that. I thought he must be being sarcastic and no one is that stupid...I was wrong.

What did you learn? How to run away with childish word games because you know you havn't got any credible evidence?

​@@nickjones5435the only child i saw there was clark, if you don't like the debates then don't attend or watch.

@JohnjOcampo Clearly you didn't watch with an open mind John. I saw two devious childish, dishonest charlatan preachers using childish word games and running from the actual debate! LOOK MORE HONESTLY JOHN!

@@nickjones5435 yet the only one's who have really displayed childish behavior is you and clark, everyone knows that but you lol.

​@@nickjones5435your argument is infantile and you are a deceived person.

All honest Christians have lived in both worldviews. That's why the whole world needs Christ 📖♥️

It is an interesting insight to live in 'both worlds' as you say. I been raised Christian practically from birth and have gone to Christian private schools. I have no idea of the hurdles that have to be jumped to hear Scripture ideas when a person is an adult and introduced to concepts for the first time. As you can confirm, only by God can a person's heart be changed. The biggest 'miracles' I have seen or heard is when bad and imoral people come to Christ and are completly changed into a 'new' person.

That's awesome bro!!! I use to be athiest too!

Jesus is Lord

How did God reveal himself to you?

There could be many reasons. But whether or not he truly _is_ "a bitter, sad man" cannot be known from this one evening. There's no way to know why he was as he was that evening...and it could be that he is quite calm and collected in 95% of his life.

I think he could be dangerous toward his Christian patients. I'm really scared!

This dude literally stood on a stage and invited people to come up and drink poison. I thought, well he is trying to prove his point in a humorous way, but also...could what he did be considered attempting to encourage self deletion? Quite unhinged.

​@@fredo3161 isnt the unhinged thing an ADULT who still believes in childish things?

@@nickjones5435 At least children aren't miserable know-it-all nihilists.

Ellis was genuinely open to discussion, being his first debate. Yet his answers proved what Dr White and Jeff were saying: an Atheist doesn't believe in good or evil, have no basis for Truth and contradict their own world view: saying there is only matter but logic and numbers are immaterial realities. They are confused and admitted it with their own answers.

Like all atheïst do :)

The other two are lost in a mental delusion of their own making.

I wish I could just give them both a big loving godly hug... Clark looks like he has a lot of baggage, he may feel God has abandoned him. And the other, well he used to be part of a cult, give him a break, white and Jeff will get him right after the debate, Lord willing. Prayers!

Very angry. And disrespectful.

Thats a very interesting perspective as it had the total opposite effect on me. Why would having 2 charlatans exposed as being incapable of supporting their claims of a god and so needing to resort to childish word games, enhance your belief in a god that, I'm guessing, you can't provide credible evidence of either?

Don't look at other people to determine what you believe. Do research on your own. A lot of it! Take the time.

I pray you run to Jesus, He loves you! He has a purpose and plan for you!

@Diana Previlus Lol Why is it that whenever Christians make absurd, ridiculous, proposterous claims like that you can never back them up? 😑 You always run like a scalded cat when asked to support your outlandish absurd claims because all you're doing is repeating the rhetoric of charlatan preachers! Does prayer work? If it does, don't waste it on me, please pray for an end to childhood poverty and the war in Ukraine overnight. If those things don't happen then we'll know that an omnipotent omnibenevolent OMNIPRESENT god does not exist. And please present credible evidence that Jesus loves me or is it just the sickening sophistry used to socially control the simple minded? If you run away from those two questions just think to yourself that CLEARLY your religion, book and claims have absolutely no validity whatsoever!

@Diana Previlus BELIEVERS. Take a moment to think of all the things you would do if you were a god. The lives you would save and improve.The children you'd stop from suffering and dying. Children you'd stop from abuse. Tge women you'd stop from being raped. How much better would the world be? Then think why your god hasn't done those things. 😢😢😢

OMG you should do something about your teeth!

Freddy You must be a troll 😂

CL C just watched it and it was just my thought. I’m sure many will join in. So will I. God is mighty to save and he can give him a heart of flesh

@@pazuzil I have zero cavities, so what's wrong with my chompers? I also have zero need to live up to what you think my teeth should look like, Freddy. At least im not hiding behind a computer like an anon.

When I was a child I was afraid of the monster that lived under my bed and came out at night.

I'm so proud of you and so is God! Life will always be a battle and the devil never rests. But God is stronger and he makes everything much easier for us.❤️

glad for your better health , but....

Beautiful.

But you weren't a skeptic so your testimony holds no merit.

@@trapG0LD710 I was a sceptic for the majority of my 20’s.

Agreed, what a sad spectacle he was to watch.

Both sides were both extremely arrogant and fallacious

@@JNB0723 Yeah people are fallable. I doubt you can point out the fallacies tho

@@keepthechange2811 I have better things to do with my life. I will say this if you want to good debate don't sit through this thing cuz both sides just speak to their own sides and not try to speak to the other opponent sides. There are much better debates on RU-vid for this topic.

@@JNB0723 Dr Clark didn’t allow for the debate to become any deeper. White & Durbin have had many deep and intelligent debates with other more respectful atheists.

He seems angry and uses child like mannerisms to get his quasi-point across.

I can't believe I actually gave him the benefit of the doubt right until the closing. I'm still shocked.

@@GRAYgausseverybody would have taken him 1000X more seriously if he was civil and less flamboyant

If God was obviously true, why would we need debates? no one converts anyone through debates. Neither side listens, they are pointless. Islam will be the main world religion soon anyway, no debates needed.

He’s probably too proud to recognize what a foolish child he came across as! Totally unsuitable to participate in a debate!

Ryan Hollingsworth didn't take much for them, eh? kinda pathetic to start believing some ridiculous story for such a stupid reason. it's petty af and really has nothing to do with anything, but i guess you all can identify with that.

Sucks I have to listen to their rants just to get to the good parts lol.

Ryan hollingsworth when I was agnostic I don't think the bad behavior of another agnostic or atheist would have been enough to change my mind. If anything, he fit the stereotype that alot of people have about atheists. You know? The anger and bitterness towards anything God or religion?, lol.

I bet he got bullied a lot in school... even vacation bible school.

I'm an atheist, and I think I agree with you. He was a really bad debater.

I don't argue with a fool because those from a distance won't know who's who

Do the both of you feel intelligent?

So apt... Thanks for quoting these...

Alex Duncan yes

Ultra Hipster I believe they do.

I was wrong. The coin flip thing is the flimsiest argument that I've ever heard in my life.

Not really chris. It means they're names merely attributed to stories from totally anonymous authors! I.e. they're just pitiful hearsay from anonymous, superstitious, ignorant primitive peasents. Why the hell would us decent people believe any of THAT?

@@nickjones5435 you claim to be decent ? And then in other replies you mock peoples beliefs? Where is the consistency sir?

​@@Bingchilling667beliefs =/= arguments against other people's beliefs

@@supportsniper4626yeah but there is a delicate and respectful way that you can refer to someone’s belief. Atheists don’t know how to be respectful toward Christian perspective.

You cannot summarize his performance as "angry at a god". At a system? Certainly.

@@DRayL_ His anger is his argument. Not very rational.

@@Open2Reason Probably not rational. But the "why" cannot be known unless he comes out and states it.

The antifreeze part 😆 what a crazy man.

​@@Open2Reason I hear voices in my head that tells me to do God's work. ( Christian rationality )

Well they certainly lost the argument. Is there any such thing as a soul or did they lose thar as well?;

@nick jones well according to the Bible we all have a soul. You can not loose your soul, but that all of us are lost as in far from God. The Bible teaches that sin causes a division in relationship and because of our sin we are separated from a loving relationship with God. Since we have all sinned we are all in the same position, but because God loves us He sent Jesus to pay our ransom and our debt so that we could be brought near to Him. To restore our relationship with Him. This is God's grace and we accept this gift through faith (trusting in the work that Jesus came to do)..... now I know nothing in here that proves there is a God or that we have a soul I am simply stating what the Bible teaches about the matter. So I think the place we all need to start is asking "can the Bible be trusted?"

@To6ether We Go @To6ether We Go That isn't what I asked. Why the hell would us decent people care what it says in Harry Potter, the quoran, the grufflo or the boble? Yeah I know what the boble teaches after 22 years as a Christian, but why the hell would I pay any attention to it when you can't provide even the tinniest scrap of credible evidence that it's valid? You say we've all sinned! Errrr how do you come to that conclusion? How can I possibly have sinned? Is there any such thing as a sin? Clearly you think there is. Sin is a crime against a god. If theres no god then there's no victim of any crime anc do no such thing as a sin. Quod erat demonstrandom. So please present credible evidence that your god exists or theres no such thing as a sin is there?

@To6ether We Go I agree. Can the bible be trusted? Can you support just 4 of the very fundemental claims of the bible and if not why would we trust anything else in it?

@@nickjones5435 100% agree

The joy in knowing that Jesus is the Messiah, and knowing that He is one with the Father... is indescribable. God bless.

Can you please point me to one irrefutable piece of evidence for God in this debate??

@@answersinreality6316 What I was trying to say was I am happy that GOD revealed himself to me. Because I could have lived my life like the atheist in this debate. Lost and without knowing a lot of the questions they have, also very frustrated. But I don't have to do that now and I am thankful.

Does he not know he could get arrested for that

@@merrillschannel Yes, I understood that, but how did he reveal himself to you? Can you prove it?

He was harassing those men, it seemed he was so angry that he wanted to physically assault them and goad them into a fight. What a dark presence he is.

Im no where near as angry or as old as clark but it is quite infuriating that everyone has an example that they were shown that made them believe in there god. Am i just supposed to feel left out? If you have a god experience and thats why you have faith doesn’t the destroy the faith because now it’s connected to your evidence? I remember taking lsd a year ago when i was 19 and during my trip i demanded god approach me and in that moment i saw a face slowly come into my eyes it looked like the usual god photos you see in mormon churches but only his head made out of those triangle and square 2d shapes you would play with in kindergarten. If i wanted to I could say I met god that night, but i truly believe drugs alter how you interact with your brain i just believe i imagined what I wanted into my eyes.

Clark was simply looking for 'gotcha' moments, looking for a single 'error' to use to prove the Christian belief system as false. His performance here shows he knows nothing of God nor His creation of human free will (evidenced by the Pharoah comments). He apparently thinks, as many atheists seem to, that God should 'fix' everything and make everything OK for us on earth (evidenced for why God doesn't miracle new limbs for us). Clark thinks miracles occur by our demand (evidenced by his suggestion that we test God by drinking poison). He also ignores that God could have a hand in science and medicine and believes it exists solely because Man created it. As the old punchline goes, 'No, no. Get your own dirt.'

Those Pastors are more Satanic than those Atheist in the Panel SATAN IS NOT AN ATHEIST, Satan believes in God. 2Co 11:13-15 (13) For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. (14) And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. (15) Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

My dad used to say that, he was angry at God. Thank the Lord, I believe God saved Him. He wasn’t angry after awhile, and started to ask to go to Bible study and church almost every day at times

exactly , lol

@Abridgetome Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 KJV

Abridgetome the reason you speak of comes from your Creator. Chaos does not achieve design. Dr. Clark does not provide any intelligible position and asks and answers his own questions.

Ka Parquer That's the Watchmaker fallacy Just because you call something ”created ” by God doesn't mean it was You have the burden of proof and you have no way to demonstrate your claims You have to prove we humans are the purpose of this universe You have the burden to demonstrate the creator You've lost before you can start talking bud Prove god exists then you can make claims about what it is and has or hasn't done How do you know a creator exists? We have much better answers than the god of the gaps shitty argument from ignorant humans Think free be homest❗

Jason Noble how can you say be honest when honesty is an attribute of God given to us by God! You sound obsurd in your theories!

@Police Evil I enjoy knowing that your opinion isn't relevant. 🤷‍♂️

You know it's a W when an agnostic/atheist is triggered

Most definitely ♥️

Paul For sure that but also what I have experienced firsthand in my own life. God has proven himself to me over and over again by His faithfulness and transforming my life and delivering me from spiritual, mental and emotional bondages. I am grateful to God for opening my eyes.

Jesus saves

Not every atheist is like that stereotyper

Yes. Because that's not debating.

@@prisonerohope6970 Screaming like a child and doing theatrics isn't debating by definition.

I’ve listened to a lot of angry Christian preachers

@@Nkulinairehiphop The atheists clearly lost the debate and soiled themselves in the process.... see how easy that is to post 👍. It doesn't mean anything but it's out on the interwebs now.

@@formerfundienowfree4235 Cool. Preachers with righteous anger often upset their audience because they hold them accountable and bring their sin into the light....sinners hate the light.

Yes the dark that used god throughout history to kill and oppress.

The dark exposed itself..

Amen!!

@Nok Ko lol, you think you're the light?

A Saints Way To Live according to the Encyclopedia of warfare out of all wars in the past 10,000 years, only 2% of those wars were caused by non Islamic religions

Satan has his false teachers out. Athiest don't love science because it's true, they love false science because it keeps them in sin. They loved there sin that's why they reject the truth.

@@timothyfox4057 sure...

@@timothyfox4057 Hmmm... your argument is flawed because you assume that we are sinning just for the sake of sinning.

@@bigfatstupidfish2397 I hope you give your life to christ before it's to late look what sin has done to our nation. The human race has a sin problem that's why there is so much corruption in governments, so many in prison, so many hurting Americans who is living in a American nightmale instead of the American dream. Christ jesus desires to forgive and save but how can he when we turn a death ear to his word. The bible

@@timothyfox4057 Christianity is the majority. You guys are the ones in power right now and yet you speak of sin and corruption. Maby if the majority changed we would see if Christian are really as good as they claim themselves to be. I don't speak for other atheists, only myself.

God bless you!

RealsAbove Which god are you asking and how do you know it exists ?

Shame on you for lying to children

Aaron James Don't worry ”Hell” doesn't exist one thing that annoys me is you will never know you where wrong People like you are extremely arrogant and believe you know things you don't Just asserting something doesn't mean it is true The Bible is a book written by cruel humans who wanted control of other ignorant humans Your religion like all religions is immoral and nonsensical It's immoral to have someone else take responsibility for your own actions It's also immoral to blame people for the bad deeds of others I'm not guilty of killing anyone especially someone who died before I was alive I refute your assertions Be real here, that's all they are assertions without evidence Shame on you for threatening me with your religions garbage The threat of ”hell” might work on a weak-minded human like you, but it's not going to work on a free-thinking life loving awesome beautiful man like me Because I think for myself and ask questions, like how do we know TRUTH ❗ Shame on you for giving up your integrity You need to learn critical thinking and the scientific method Go research ❗ Christianity is immoral Think free be honest

@@jasonnoble7814 I honestly think Christians or any religious person for that matter doesn't have any business debating anything. This presupp apologetics is annoying and frankly dishonest. Their doctrine calls for you to have faith. That is the bedrock to even have this belief. There isn't any evidence If there was they wouldn't need faith. I should say any objective evidence. Personal experience does not qualify because it's a claim that can't be verifiable. They don't even have concrete proof Jesus even existed let alone performing miracles. There are other ancient texts who have had similar things said in them yet they are treated as myth. What is their standard of truth exactly? It's some sort of personal revelation, a "feeling" or "hope." There isn't any reason to debate these things.

Haha

My thoughts exactly

I’m an atheist. I mean it when I say I’ll believe in god when given concrete evidence. It’s a shame that no such evidence has ever been proposed.

@@monkewithinternetaccess6107 what type of "concrete evidence" would suffice? Most people that say such things are lying.

@@chriscrawl3732 Video evidence. Irl evidence. Any convincing implication whatsoever that he’s real. I’ll wait

Why are they good...in your opinion?

Why does there need to be a reason why to do something good?

@@johnyavornitzky5006 don’t think you understood the comment. Based in dr clark worldview, you don’t know good from bad because there is no basis of morality in the first place. Hope that helps

It’s not even about being good though if all comes down to it, it’s about realizing that you can’t do everything on your own, you don’t have all the answers and realizing that when all goes bad, you have someone to lean on and guide you through your life. And once you realize that that person is the creator of everything and that he wants you back, there’s no turning back… that’s way truer than anything any Harvard scholar can explain….

@@blackvinyl7753 I don't recognize any "creator of everything". I only see it as a story from people who lived long ago.

@Free Thinker and yet clark sounded the most ignorant out of all them. If he lets "ignorance" annoy him that much, he actually does need god real or not

Try that excuse in a court of law...pure ignorance!

Christopher Hitchens writes in God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything (pp. 172-173): "Then there is the very salient question of what the commandments do not say. Is it too modern to notice that there is nothing about the protection of children from cruelty, nothing about rape, nothing about slavery, and nothing about genocide? Or is it too exactingly 'in context' to notice that some of these very offenses are about to be positively recommended? In verse 2 of the immediately following chapter, god tells Moses to instruct his followers about the conditions under which they may buy or sell slaves (or bore their ears through with an awl) and the rules governing the sale of their daughters. This is succeeded by the insanely detailed regulations governing oxes that gore and are gored, and including the notorious verses forfeiting 'life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth.' Micromanagement of agricultural disputes breaks off for a moment, with the abrupt verse (22:18) 'Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.' This was, for centuries, the warrant for the Christian torture and burning of women who did not conform." Richard Dawkins writes in The God Delusion (pp. 23-24): "Imagine, with John Lennon, a world with no religion. Imagine no suicide bombers, no 9/11, no 7/7, no Crusades, no witch-hunts, no Gunpowder Plot, no Indian partition, no Israeli/Palestinian wars, no Serb/Croat/Muslim massacres, no persecution of Jews as 'Christ-killers', no Northern Ireland 'troubles', no 'honour killings', no shiny-suited bouffant-haired televangelists fleecing gullible people of their money ('God wants you to give till it hurts'). Imagine no Taliban to blow up ancient statues, no public beheadings of blasphemers, no flogging of female skin for the crime of showing an inch of it." Here are 78 other reasons why atheists are justifiably angry: www.patheos.com/blogs/barrierbreaker/why-im-angry-an-antitheists-78-reasons/

@@ErikLiberty why be angry about it? What does it even matter if people slaughter each other in atheism? Morals and meaning are absent anyway. Its survival of the fittest right? So who cares if one nation destroys the other. The strongest survived. All part of the evolutionairy plan right?

Atheists hold to two key principles. 1. God doesn't exist 2. I hate him

So there are Muslims who were once militant Christians. Is this a miracle? There are Mormons who were once militant Christians? Is this a miracle? There are Jehovah Witnesses that were once militant Christians? Is this a miracle?

If you’re religious and used to be an atheist, you’re now a dumb ass.

Praise God welcome home

@@josephpatterson2513 to be found by the true God is a miracle.

@@chuckiepeoples it may seem foolish to the lost, but Christ is true.

@Chris Manzi lol, I am trying to determine with this oversized brain of mine if your being sarcastic

Chris Manzi so humans just happen to be the only organism on the planet that have a conscious mind?

@@jawawi8489 you realise the word conscious means "aware of and responding to one's surroundings". Im pretty sure animals are conscious.

Chris Manzi we didn’t evolve, that’s another lie you have been told. We have always been the same in Gods image since the beginning of time. If we could evolve then why don’t monkeys at the zoo evolve into humans? Because it’s a lie we are one of a kind creations from God himself and if you can’t see that then you’re blinded by the world but once you accept we are made to glorify the one true God then you will finally see! For everything you see on this earth will not last, but everything you can’t see will last for eternity. Jesus loves you and died for you he died for all of us because we are all sinners and none of us are good but through his grace and love we can be forgiven if we repent and give our hearts and minds to him and let him reform them and once you allow him to do this you will not even want to sin anymore for all sin starts from not loving God. Our flesh is weak, kill your fleshly desires let your flesh be put to death and be reborn again though the Holy Spirit so that you won’t be blind anymore but see the truth! God bless you all

Evolution is not only a fact but it remains the most robust theory in science. Feel free to deny science while you sit at your computer though, that is always poetically hilarious.

I agree with you about Dr Clark, and I am an atheist.

john hammond He’s a good comedy, the guy should do stand up!

If you were an athiest, you would resent everything Mister Durbin said, in favour of idolatry.

@@0nionsHaveL4yers Don't be a dickhead mate.

@@justchilling704 He is not funny at all. Now all the atheist hating RU-vid Christians will have lots of ammunition to attack us with.

Barry Klinger Right 😂

Well said...

Flying spaghetti monster?

@@everything9466 , it's a fake "god" made up my atheists in their failed attempt at satire. Some go so far to claim that there is more evidence that a flying spaghetti monster created the universe than the true God.

Ok thankyou

I must agree. Durbin and white totally de-railed the conversation by ignoring the topic and resorting to childish word games. I'm not surprised clark was livid!

Daniel Macedo absolutely everything he says and does comes directly from biblical scripture. It’s his reason for being. He is the absolute boss when it comes to this stuff.

For some coming to the realization that "a god" exist can lead them to finding the one true God. When you don't even think the spiritual exist then nothing is going to change your mind other then whats spiritual but people suppress spiritual truths. I did for years as an atheist making excuse after excuse for the spiritual things I've witnessed.

Look up ravi zacharias

Art Alvarez they are super good speakers

@Art Alvarez you like a lot of idiots.

Yup

And a new heart..

@@friendlyfire7509 he seems weak Ill

He needs help

Jose Sanchez Hardly

Yes. The "insult verse" for Christians to recite. Yet they provide no compelling reason that there IS "a god" [and more precise, the "god" they claim to be the only existing one of all the thousands of "deities" other religions have].

@@DRayL_ there will never be a compelling reason for one who thinks randomly, never in a logical way, from the moment you believe that nothing or something exploded and here we are by pure chance, you are far away of common sense.

@@christianlanoire7541 I never brought up Big Bang cosmology. This is a "god of the gaps" argument used all too common. It isn't actual evidence for any "deity existing".

@lary Snw Please.....continue.

@@DRayL_ welp they gone

I wonder if he would drink anti-freeze for a Klondike bar?

The atheist dude needs Jesus. :)

Theists need to realize that their belief that a god exists is based on faith, not proof. Theists are claiming their gods are real, yet they believe in their unproven god(s) through faith, not proof.

Perch learn what faith means in Greek.

@@perch8425 at what point will atheists stop ignoring historical and observational science. Because both are proof

For a guy that doesn't exist, God is a dick.

@Svdjdjfbrdf Dhdjdjddn What, you've never disliked a fictional characters characteristics, maybe a movie or book vilan? Well it's worse, as this fictional character has a very real and impact on many lives. That's how that is. Now... you can make all the claims you want about; spirits, judgment and other religious nonsense. But realise, that what you believe has no bearing on reality. Unless you can back up what you are saying as fact??? 😇🤪🤣

@Svdjdjfbrdf Dhdjdjddn If science proved that "God is real and that's a fact" We wouldn't be in disagreement. If you show me the evidence instead of just claiming it exists, I'll humble pie, revert back to Christianity, attend church weekly, eat my right arm and seek out God.

I should express there are 4,376 religions.

The dude is mad because he know the 2 clown on the other will not answer and just say the bible says and no proof ... i would get nad talking to 2 professiknnel debator and not really intellectual discussion since they just say in all debate god exist if you dont beleive you are wrong ... sure ...

Awesome

I think MDMA is perfect for married couples to do a few times a year.

That Is Funny!! While watching this I kept saying to the Lord that he has such great restraint!! I think if there were ever a chance in the modern day world for fire to rain down from Heaven that was it. The level of insult from a flea was astounding...

@@Captain-Awesome Yes, we need to always be grateful and humble, that God extends his mercy and grace. So many today stand on human intelligence and ignore wisdom. But if you walk in to a debate relying on props against Dr. White you will be reduced to comic relief.

😂😂😂😂

Reminded me of the same thing!

Miriam Reutter exactly what I thought! I was sittin here thinking, “This language sounds extremely familiar”

This may sound crazy, it may be esed as a laughing stock later. But, perhaps this man is possessed by a demon... Perhaps the demon was really wanting Dr White to drink that radiator fluid.

Why is Yahweh playing these games while humanity suffers? Look at this: Satan brings Jesus to Jerusalem to test him but Jesus IS Yahweh, and Satan is Yahweh's obedient slave. This is why religious cult members do not allow themselves to question dogma because it cannot withstand a simple analysis.

Absolutely, Matthew 4:7

That's because he does not have the love of Jesus Christ in his heart but he has Satan leading him

@@dbz739921 satan aint real

Yes. I was so uncomfortable for him that I came to the comments...and found this agreement. 👍

@@joy-cw4ew that’s the greatest lie he wants you to believe.

I hope he believes in christ soon and gets saved.

That may have been their goal.

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law." Galatians 5:22-23

You should see pastor Ray Comfort preaching to a Buddhist monk if you appreciate patience.

in the word it says "be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry", they very clearly applied the word in the debate.

That's exactly what Satan would want to happen

Well it was quite fitting given the arguments from his opponents came from people with the intellect of 10 year old kids.

Yes. It gets quite frustrating when you're arguing against people that cant produce one piece of evidence outside of feelings and holy books. Funny that humans always have to argue for the existence of their god instead of their god just giving decent evidence of his existence.

@@jrfree88 What is your evidence that this universe was created by chance and not by an intelligent mind?Hurry up.

@@jaimebrathwaite8806 ummmm.......we have no evidence of a supreme creator. All we find is matter. So you're up now. Show evidence of this creator and you have a point. Otherwise. NO ONE GIVES A SHIT.

@nickj14711 Hahahah what?If no intelligent mind was behind the big bang it had to happen by chance you genius that's basic logic and knowledge

And the curious part always is: why does he care? Christian principles have created the best societal foundation the world has known (I don't necessisarily mean right here, right now, but the broader West, which gave birth to the concept of human rights; to a government of the people, because no man has more rights than another; and to the first people to put a stop to slavery not out of fear of being the slaves one day, but out of love for their fellow man). Is it because they think Christians make the world terrible? Do they think that people who use Christianity as an excuse won't find another excuse, if you get rid of Christianity? It seems so odd to be so angry about a religion that basically has two core principles: love God, love man.

Yep. He thinks logically valid & sound philosophical arguments don't count as evidence for philosophical positions. In other words, he thinks all philosophies are false... Scientism is the self-refuting philosophy he adhere to. It's self-refuting with one sentence: *Truth can only be known if it's scientifically verified* cannot be scientifically verified ITSELF

@@lightbeforethetunnel right, he doesn’t seem to understand the philosophy that underlies his world view

@@lightbeforethetunnel Ahhhh, I’ve been trying to scratch that itch for months now and you nailed it! Thank you lol. I couldn’t figure out how to express it.

That’s an incredibly uncharitable characterization of the debate. Firstly, there is no historical case to be made to support the necessary claims of the Bible because those claims lack any corroborated evidence and so you’re stuck appealing to a document of faith. Secondly there was no logical case made either. Almost every single one of their assertions were made with no backing and of the premises they did make, their conclusion didn’t logically follow. For instance, design doesn’t necessarily follow from the complexity of cellular respiration. There are countless complexities in the world that we can show occur naturally and without any design. The counter to that would be to claim EVERYTHING is designed… but that’s a circular argument and again, is just an assertion without any evidence.

I agree. He is acting like many "hell, fire, and brimstone preachers" I've seen. Hilarious to watch.

First time I ever saw an atheist behaving like a Christian preacher. A bit unnerving, but his message is spot on.

@@Andre_XX You must be new on the internet. Watch this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KxrM7zUhKjU.html 😁

@@godexists2177 So I take it you guys like to dish it out to us atheists, but you can't cope with it when you are on the receiving end?

@@Andre_XX I am sure I can take any abuse. Can't remember how many times I have been called an idiot for winning a debate. 😁

@@godexists2177 Are you sure you won, or perhaps you only thought you won?

Amen

Amen..I thought the same thing.

My thoughts exactly

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OsoGtAthU6k.html

Amen, thank you I needed to see that let us pray🙏🕊

He wasn't even happy with Jeffs opening joke about the beard. lol

He'd be named Cooper~

Most underrated comment of the month. 😂

I recently had the same thing with my uncle. I've been a believer for my whole life, but I never had faith. I recently told him about my faith and got into an unfortunate conversation about all kinds of nonsense about religion. No regard for the positive and good changes in my life, just pure concern over Christians in history being hypocrites while dismissing anyone who did wrong that was an atheist as somehow being a Christian. Even Karl "religion is the opiod of the masses" Marx was actually raised a Catholic or something and therefore Christianity is bunk. Same thing with hitler, mao, stalin, and lenin all "avid Christians" living out the values of Christ. Just pray and be patient.

Feelings aren't evidence.

They are suffering and taking it out on others who found happiness

Why'd you link this exact video lol

Linked it just in case you tube deletes it!

nickj14711 what does it matter to you? If we are evolved animals, why are you upset with what’s being said? Why do you feel the need to go on the offensive?

madjack821 well said, I wish everyone understood this vary paragraph (atheists). lol

Morgh123 which, maybe not so ironically, they can’t justify lol.

Hahahahaha this had me rolling! But uh... it’s true lol

Haha. Einer der besten Kommentare hier. One of the best comments. Most underrated 😂

Underrated comment!

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Beau Sem 🤣

Beau Sem so absolutely true. I think this was his first and last debate ever. 😂

😂😂😂 he's wondering if he should out perform Dr Clark or just go with the flow

I felt bad fir dr clark

That is common for many atheists since atheism is often the only trait we have in common making any kind of centralized view impossible.

Give a good definition of nothing and maybe well take you seriously.... But really no one argues this anymore... Youre a child

'Everything from nothing ' is a creationist argument. Atheism does not have anything to do with a claim about the origin of existence. Atheism is a non belief in a god - nothing more.

What is 'nothing'? Empty space with nothing in it is still something. When I say 'I don't believe in God', I have no obligation to provide an explanation of how the beginning of everything happened.

HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!

@@Ericaamor888 Only God who exists outside of our reality/universe/existence can explain a REAL BEGINNING. God exists outside of the concept of time so for time to exist it must have been created. Within your "logic" you see the obvious answer and that is GOD IS BEYOND IT ALL AND CREATED IT ALL. Your arguments are within the box, God who exists OUTSIDE the box created the box. @ReformedThe... YOU are the child, a child of God and you know it's obvious. "We (Godless, illogical, science-less) don't talk about that anymore" isn't an argument. We DO talk about it still. Something CANNOT come from NOTHING and nothing IS a concept and YOU, science guy, MUST explain how we came from NOTHING which NOTHING is the outcome we would have if...... THERE WERE NO GOD. However there IS a God and He revealed himself from day ONE.

Amen

He's angry because deep deep down inside, he knows God exists. He can feel it but he's too proud, worldly and filled with rage to accept or believe it. The main reason he says show me so often is basically because he's begging on a sub- conscious level to be proven wrong. If he truly believed that were just s collection of lifeless atoms who just happened to form a living conscious brain, he'd put foward his point and walk away - but no, he kept asking/begging to be included.

We can hope for him, but praying would be empty. He has to WANT salvation - or realize on his own accord that he needs it. Your heart is in the right place, Stormeroo. And I love you for it.

@@shawnyfin We can pray for his heart to soften

@@familythomas2828 ...when his heart softens I will thank God in my prayers.

Im trying my best to avoid being rude. Just asking you to THINK about the things you claim when you can't support them. It really does imply you're rather foolish. Does he really say that or are you deluded you poor man? You have my sympathy. Do you have a single scrap of credible evidence that your god ever SAID ANYTHING?

As a Christian who is also an engineer, that short bald man does a disservice to the the old school science community and apparently his knowledge of physics seems to be very limited.

The old angry man made a fool of himself.

Go watch Jeff at the capital. The anti-lifers there were much more disrespectful than even that angry man.

They just sat back and let Clark prove their point.

Do not use those like Dr Clark as a source for making a worldview change. Use actual reasoning, based upon ample, credible, and verifiable evidence. I'm agnostic myself. I was heading down the road of actual atheism, but couldn't go that far because I found it too rigid and final. I personally have found no good reason to believe any "deities" exist,...but since I don't have all the knowledge of the universe, I can't make a positive claim that "no deities exist". I will continue to exist as an honest person in this life.

No u are a religious fanatic. No agnostic would reason like u.

If you would like to talk sometime about Christianity and your beliefs I’m here. I’m thankful you are seeking after God by taking the time to watch videos like this. Jesus is King and His sacrifice wipes our sins away. God bless you!

Hmm… more and more people are becoming atheist or non believers over time.

@@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp because rebellion against God is always the direction man goes

No he didn't!! I saw Clark as being quite irrational in his presentation....but that doesn't address the issues with the religion of Christianity. Unless you have documented cases of "non-believers becoming Christian or taking a serious look", based upon how Clark comported himself.

@@DRayL_ he sure did 😁 I'm one of the people that after stumbling across this video it sent me down a rabbit hole ultimately leading to Christianity 😄

@@user-xf9zx7in2g What did you find that lead you to Christianity? And how did Clark play a role in it....specifically?

@@user-xf9zx7in2g so as you go down that rabbit hole make sure you don’t just go to church and listen to their cherry picked visions of a great god … read Numbers 5:11-31 and see that god is ok with abortion or don’t forget to read the entire story of Sodom and Gomorrah where after god destroys the city he allows the survivors to date rape their father by getting him drunk and taking advantage of him something god approves of because they both become pregnant and god is the one that allows pregnancy… or when he decides to destroy an entire city and god says to kill everyone including women and children and even their dogs and goats but the soldiers can keep any young women that are old enough to breed as their property and justifies it because the sins of their great great great great grandparents because he feels it fine to punish some one for the things they had nothing to do with … make sure you use an objective view on what gif calls love and think about the things that your church doesn’t talk about that might make you think differently of a all loving god

APOLIGA ARE A DISHONEST GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO DECEIVE YOU WITH FALSE ARGUMENTS... AND EVEN WORSE THEY KNOW IT TOO

You are so right. The thieving gullible preachers are hiding their insincerity, so they can continue to fool the masses.

@@sahadhassan4764 I agree with you. Anyone that thinks he or she can speak with his or her heart instead of his or her mouth, is definitely a fool. Great point.

@Judy James I agree

Yes praying for him !

Jose Adriani Buselli We ought to have sympathy for all who’re lost. Without God’s grace we would still be in the same dilemma of eternal judgement. I’ll be joining you in prayer for this man that God changes his heart as He has done for so many others.

Amen! While Dr. Clark is still alive, there is hope.

I pray for both of them and all unbelievers. I even mourn for them because the day they face God . They refused and denied God so God denied them

@nickj14711 a simple question for you.... IF someone produced to you evidence that convinced YOU that God was real and that every word of the Bible was indeed his law (ie the whole of what biblical Christianity teaches today is correct and true), would YOU bow your knee before him and confess He is your God, you are filthy before him and you then beg him to treat you well?

That's not true. Every Christian is called to be the light and shone to other men. To help call people back to god. Ultimately it's God that reveals himself to men but it's his body (christians) that do the work.

@@WowAgeLimitGay it's who that reveals himself to men? You literally just made the guy's point. You are wrong

you're criticizing God's world as a "selfish world".....they're probably going to make you wait in the long line on the way to heaven for that!!

​@@jeffsmith6915 What? Did you think that was an intelligent response?

Why can't God cure this personality disorder?

@mattr.1887 He hasn't asked.

I'm angry because there are theists like you, who I assume vote for people that pass laws saying I shouldn't marry the person I want because of some book that has no evidence of being true

I don’t understand how anyone can claim to read proverbs and think that the Bible is nonsense! The amount of wisdom in proverbs is profound and applicable to this day

There's some decent advice and stories in there. But that doesn't mean the supernatural claims are all true.

When I read your comment I almost spewed coffee all over my keyboard. Too funny! Thanks!

It was such an absurd stunt from a nutty guy with no coherent argument with his ranting that even I had no idea what was about to happen. The guy was just sad atheist filled with anger and excessive pride and arrogance.

Dr. Clark said he wanted proof of a miracle/prophecy? Here it is: I predict a meme being born from this comment.

ROFL!!

YES!

😂😂😂

O m gosh. Lol.

What did he say that proved the existance of god?

@@dictationdubstep I don’t think “Faith” and “Proof” are synonymous words.

@@dictationdubstep do people really need a RU-vid video to realize this world has a creator 🤔

@@spiritwarrior2942 I want to understand the perspective other than heated attacks that don't really address the issue

Amen

Rebecca Johnson True, judging from my laughing through most of it. At least the small guy had uh, passion the large guy was boring, nearly fell asleep.

@@justchilling704 I liked the larger guy. He seemed slightly willing to agree that his worldview has inconsistencies and he argued respectfully.

I would gladly put on a cap that says "Atheist" and play Devil's Advocate (no pun intended) to put up a much better defense of atheism than certain individuals have done.

This debate was better ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aUKIVV48LOk.html

@@MaverickChristian Right!? And that's actually an excellent way to know your counterpart. Steel man his views so that you know them honestly and can respond to them honestly. These 'atheists' were all over the place. If you haven't watched Steven Crowder's Devil's Advocate interviews you should!! He does an excellent job at 'becoming' the countersued.

Thank you for this comment! I've seen _so_ many Christians talk about "the fat atheist"..."the little bald atheist", when they could have said what you did here. Your reply comes from a place of civility...so again, thank you!

I wonder where he stands in his atheism today

⁠@@DRayL_i’ve been reading a lot of comments in this video. Can’t find that “ fat athiest” or “bald athiest” you mentioned.

@@Wigz12 Not as much with "the fat atheist", but I have seen many comments about Clark making reference to his height [a few "Napoleon Complex" statements], or about his lack of hair on his head. It's a way to make fun of someone in the attempt to cause people to see him as "less than the other debaters on the Christian side".

@@DRayL_ well you said “fat atheist” and “the little bald atheist”. I’ve been scrolling for a few minutes in the comment section, can’t really find a comment about insults on their appearance. You said you’ve seen many.

Does is surprise you that an atheist would have Bibles?

Most atheist have read the Bible. That's why most of them are atheist.

@@DRayL_ if he doesn't believe in God, why have a Bible?

@@PokeMaster03 Many atheists used to be theists....Christian, specifically. I still have my Bible. Some of us used that book to realize why we no longer would want to continue being Christian. And it is a useful tool, none the less, for that end.

@@PokeMaster03 to scoff at it