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Incredible Photo Finish | 2023 Lucas Oil Late Model Gopher 50 at Deer Creek Speedway 

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Highlights from a spectacular $50,000-to-win 'Gopher 50' for the Lucas Oil Late Models at Deer Creek Speedway on July 8, 2023.
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@StickA-yd4fp
@StickA-yd4fp Год назад
Love him or hate him Pierce puts on a hell of a show.
@netflixnchil421
@netflixnchil421 Год назад
Thats how ya bring fans to a race track! Great race. Just depends the location of the transponder line. My local track is roughly 20 feet before the flag stand. So its probably the right call! Good racing fellas
@steveashworth6707
@steveashworth6707 Год назад
It sure looked like O'Neal was a head by a couple of inches!, plain as day!.
@netflixnchil421
@netflixnchil421 Год назад
Most transponder lines are not directly below the flagger. They usually sit them back a hand full of feet. Least how my local track is. There should be a clear marking where the finish line is tho!!
@jamieday6602
@jamieday6602 Год назад
The camera wasn't in the direct line to the flagman! Great race
@CM-ve1bz
@CM-ve1bz Год назад
I watched it on Flo and it took almost 15 minutes for them to decide who won. Whatever the instrument is that reads the transponders is seldom under the flag stand, it’s before or after. Apparently theirs was before.
@cameronbarrett6942
@cameronbarrett6942 Год назад
They tell you to put it on the right rear axle tube. A lot of times they put them on the right front framehorn. I'd say that's what happened
@shawnmoore7841
@shawnmoore7841 Год назад
Depends where his transponder is located, and that screwed him IMO
@Troy4622
@Troy4622 Год назад
I swear the 32 could start dead last and somehow he's battling for the win.
@user-vp8pn6zm5r
@user-vp8pn6zm5r Год назад
NASCAR is only praying they could have races like this !
@stuartwall8212
@stuartwall8212 Год назад
I would pay to see a 50 lap dirt race way before I would sit through any Nascar event. Them flashy red lights on the backs of cars make it look like a carnival ride.
@BradenLewis-bm2ur
@BradenLewis-bm2ur Год назад
Dirt is way better agree
@Tipzyyy
@Tipzyyy Год назад
nascar has become a complete shell of itself. however, dirt track using is growing immensely
@jomnres2
@jomnres2 Год назад
I don’t care what anyone says, last night at Atlanta was awesome to watch. So was this. Two different things and they can both be awesome.
@jeremybonesholder
@jeremybonesholder Год назад
Congrats smooth operator. Sure looked like Hudson crossed the line inches ahead though.
@CM-ve1bz
@CM-ve1bz Год назад
O’Neal nosed him out at the flag stand but the transponder reader was placed before the stand
@wrongwayfeldman3247
@wrongwayfeldman3247 Год назад
The finish line is not always right at the flag stand. It depends on where they bury the loop for the transponders. For various reasons it often does not line up with the flag stand at dirt tracks. At Deer Creek, the name is painted along the front stretch and the transponder is between the two E's in Speedway. Which puts it about where the fence post just before the flag stand. Freeze the video at 5:51 and that's about where they finished.
@zterminatorxx6525
@zterminatorxx6525 Год назад
He did clear as day
@alanm2842
@alanm2842 Год назад
why not put the finish line over the loop. maybe a couple gallons of paint?
@jeremybonesholder
@jeremybonesholder Год назад
I agree the loop and finish line should b n the same spot
@cumminsrealpower680
@cumminsrealpower680 Год назад
What a great race to the transponder. Crazy its not racing to the finish line. I know its the series' silly rule but that rule has costed several teams the winner's part. All tracks should have a flagstand camera. IMO
@thomasvaught262
@thomasvaught262 11 месяцев назад
Are you new to dirt racing or just a casual? It's not a series rule... almost every dirt track for the past 25+ years has had an electronic scoring system solely for this reason. If it came down to an individual's judgment call, people would be going apeshit over this finish worse than they are right now. Transponders are the most accurate thing that has been implemented since the beginning of dirt racing. As for why they aren't placed on the nose of the car? I'm guessing that most people complaining haven't gone to a local track and seen a car finish a race without the nose and front bumper. Being on the right rear axle tube ensures everyone is fairly scored and the transponder doesn't get smashed or broken. So what if the start/finish line isn't where some people thought it was? They aren't gonna go around to every dirt track to dig up their scoring loop to place it exactly where a casual spectator thinks it should be. Late models aren't the only classes that race at these tracks, and some cars are a different length.
@cumminsrealpower680
@cumminsrealpower680 11 месяцев назад
@thomasvaught262 Uhh, no. I've been involved with dirt racing for 45 yrs. And I can assure you that back in older days, drivers raced to the "finish line." That's where the checkered flag flew. Thanks for your insight.
@michaelarrington988
@michaelarrington988 6 месяцев назад
​@cumminsrealpower680 technology has advanced a long way since the older days . I've ran the scoring system at many tracks I've seen the loop a few inches from the start finish line to 10 feet or more. They been running them for over 20 years
@caseyhepler2806
@caseyhepler2806 Год назад
Whoever wrenches on those two cars is top notch
@kylepeckham4133
@kylepeckham4133 Год назад
Damn thats a helluva finish!
@mikesenkewicz1324
@mikesenkewicz1324 11 месяцев назад
What a Awesome Finish !!! Wow !!!
@brianlehr78
@brianlehr78 Год назад
If you haven’t seen these guys live I highly recommend you do!! This is great coverage but still doesn’t do them justice!!
@jeradlene1732
@jeradlene1732 Год назад
Wow that was close good racing
@shawnsd69
@shawnsd69 Год назад
O'Neal had that race 100% that came down to transponder location.
@thomasvaught262
@thomasvaught262 11 месяцев назад
O'Neal 100% had 2nd place. He crossed the finish line .002 of a second after Pierce. Electronic scoring isn't biased and doesn't show favoritism. Sorry about your feelings.
@michaelarrington988
@michaelarrington988 6 месяцев назад
​@@thomasvaught262you are correct that's why all tracks run transponders now to take out the human error
@halperkins1791
@halperkins1791 Год назад
Wow what a race
@Zay16020
@Zay16020 2 месяца назад
What a finish
@ralphwatten2426
@ralphwatten2426 Год назад
I think we could tie this one up in court for a few years. Whew what a finish. Hooda thunk a Rocket chassis would be this good at this point in the year? Bobby Pierce YEAH!
@StickA-yd4fp
@StickA-yd4fp Год назад
Pretty sure Bobby is in a Longhorn. Or you talking about Hudson?
@ralphwatten2426
@ralphwatten2426 Год назад
@@StickA-yd4fp Hud got the Rocket ride and everybody thought that Longhorn was going to run away with it. That's what I'm saying. Pierce ran a great race.
@thomasvaught262
@thomasvaught262 Год назад
😂😂 Rocket set the bar long before Longhorn was any anything but a steakhouse.
@markbutler6539
@markbutler6539 Год назад
What a race 🏁
@mattfetter4123
@mattfetter4123 Год назад
Tried keeping my eyes open for this one. Damn ! Good finish. The drivers know where the transponder is located.
@missourimike7260
@missourimike7260 6 месяцев назад
Already been said, I was gonna state the obvious that Hudson won but they must have went with the transponders. These guys are amazing
@SatansExecutioner
@SatansExecutioner Год назад
That 32 is the man let’s go!!!! There ain’t no noise in Illinois
@larryknight8637
@larryknight8637 Год назад
Hell yeahhhh bobby way to go what a great race
@jonzjamz2000
@jonzjamz2000 Год назад
this is probably the best race I've seen in sometime folks. for a payday it was clean. so many highlights I've seen lately have just been shit drivers running over people in the top 5 last 15 laps. man i wish i was there.
@johnhale9892
@johnhale9892 Год назад
That was close, Hudsons white bumper seemed to be a couple inches ahead of Bobby, but the scoring from the transponders dictates the winner. Congratulations, Bobby, on that .002 finish.
@rickjones6798
@rickjones6798 Год назад
Congratulations Bobby that was one hell of a move on the last lap congratulations buddy that was awesome
@itsskaii7315
@itsskaii7315 Год назад
That 32 is on a MF Roll
@StickA-yd4fp
@StickA-yd4fp Год назад
56 starts, 14 wins, 37 top 5"s, 45 top 10's. not a bad season at all.
@ds6329
@ds6329 Год назад
If you pause it at 5:51 both drivers are side by side. Look at the distance to the flag stand. We know there is a little bit of an angle from this camera to the flag stand. But is the camera's position where the transponder line is at? I wish we know where the transponder line starts on our side and ends on the infield. From this point on Hudson has it. I hate the term "photo finish" when they don't actually decide at the finish line. Crazy race and happy for Bobby!
@overtimeracing4461
@overtimeracing4461 Год назад
Way to go pierce! From 10th
@scottkernan9007
@scottkernan9007 Год назад
I love close finish like that
@Tipzyyy
@Tipzyyy Год назад
and when they actually race to the line instead of nascar where they put someone in the wall
@butchcassidy3373
@butchcassidy3373 Год назад
When I raced we placed the transponders on the rear axle. Either move the finish line or move the transponders. Hard to know what to do as a driver when the finish line is so flexible.
@thomasvaught262
@thomasvaught262 11 месяцев назад
The finish line isn't flexible. It's buried under the track surface when the track installs it. The only thing that is flexible is where the transponder is located depending on the rules, but they are always checked by the tech officials before and after races.
@tripleeathletics
@tripleeathletics Год назад
What a race… From where the camera was set up, it almost appears Hud got it. They need to have a high speed camera mounted ON the flag stand. JMO
@6ixdrippy641
@6ixdrippy641 Год назад
Huddy had him at the flag stand, but their scoring loop for the transponder may be set before or after the flag stand depending on what track you're at. Hell of a race regardless.
@jamesriley9800
@jamesriley9800 Год назад
The transponder line is 20 feet before the stand is what I heard
@tripleeathletics
@tripleeathletics Год назад
@@6ixdrippy641 pretty sure it’s before the flag stand, otherwise Hud would’ve gotten that one. I think it should be determined by a high speed camera ON the stand, NOT by transponder! We’ve all seen how they can be mounted differently, some cars have longer bumpers Etc. But, If it were done by camera AT The Flag Stand, then there’s no questions, no doubts, it’s THE WINNER… Agreed, Great Race regardless!
@drewski31683
@drewski31683 Год назад
So basically there is no start/finish line…got it. Seems logical, you know, for racing. 😂
@davids5006
@davids5006 Год назад
@@drewski31683exactly what I was thinking 🤷🏼‍♂️
@drshoe8744
@drshoe8744 Год назад
Wow what a race! That really takes me back to the days of "Guardrail Grinding" at Susky (now Baps), but sadly they narrowed the straights and ruined the track.
@khenry89
@khenry89 Год назад
Not hating at all u love both these guys and their wheeling abilities! Buuuuuut I'm pretty sure that was Hudsons win from what it looked like on the video but hey either way congrats to Bobby!
@tykit9230
@tykit9230 Год назад
Way to go Smooth
@robertraber4770
@robertraber4770 11 месяцев назад
The best race I’ve seen all year was s at Indiana , tri city, Indiana this Sunday. And you can see. All of the race every lap not the first one put all of them and if you didn’t like that race you must be dead.
@happywrenching960
@happywrenching960 Год назад
Where's the line at? If it's straight across from the flagman, O'Neal had it.
@stuartbuckley6113
@stuartbuckley6113 Год назад
I seen it differently but I am not an official. Congratulations on the win. I like both drivers and teams so win, win for me either way.
@thomasvaught262
@thomasvaught262 Год назад
If you were an official, you'd understand why it doesn't matter what you think you saw. The race is scored electronically by a transponder on the right rear axle tube that sends a signal to the receiver that records the lap times for everyone. A driver can finish the race missing the entire front clip if it gets torn off during the race, but if it's missing any part of the rear end they're most likely getting a tow back to their hauler and the transponder location is the least of their worries.
@MrChristopherHaas
@MrChristopherHaas Год назад
Just noticed first auomobile company sponsor on a car. And its Toyota? On the winning car? My heart is broken, i had no idea
@aaronhendrickson450
@aaronhendrickson450 Год назад
Camera angle wasnt the best since it wasnt directly in line with the flag stand but i believe bobby got it where the transponder line is. Another foot sooner and hudson wouldve had it
@jettafixer7
@jettafixer7 6 месяцев назад
There is no "finish" line painted on the track. If you use the flag stand, how wide is the flagstand?Transponder line is the scoring line.
@bluefj-wc3vz
@bluefj-wc3vz Год назад
Wow
@kenngrim6984
@kenngrim6984 Год назад
Apparently Hudson was ok with the finish results ?
@Tipzyyy
@Tipzyyy Год назад
he's the points leader now i think and he still walked away with 20k finishing 2nd. not bad at all
@redbrrdz7423
@redbrrdz7423 Год назад
Bobby Pierce. Husdon. Best Short Track Racers! Inspirational
@thomaspritchard6571
@thomaspritchard6571 Год назад
I don't know what the Officials was looking at but it looked like O'Neal won that race. Looks like the #1 got Robbed!
@davids5006
@davids5006 Год назад
Yup
@jjs9913
@jjs9913 11 месяцев назад
The only thing that matters what they are looking at is the transponder timer...you assume the flagstand is the finish line but it's not...the finish line is around 20 ft before the flag stand...for 20+ years this is how dirt racing has been ruled
@davids5006
@davids5006 11 месяцев назад
@@jjs9913 would make to much sense to have it at the flag stand I guess
@jettafixer7
@jettafixer7 6 месяцев назад
There is no "finish" line painted on the track. If you use the flag stand, how wide is the flagstand?Transponder line is the scoring line.
@robertwestover2125
@robertwestover2125 Год назад
Hud was robbed; check the transponder box location on the 32 race car.
@netflixnchil421
@netflixnchil421 Год назад
Or transponder line compared to location of flag stand. I know hilltop has there's 22 feet before the flagger. Alot of tracks are like that. Im sure hud knew where it was. Is what it is. Great race tho.
@davids5006
@davids5006 Год назад
Obviously they aren't using a visual line
@kyledagit
@kyledagit Год назад
They need to relook at that bc Hudson O'Neal was feather ahead of Bobby Pierce.
@michaelolenick4078
@michaelolenick4078 Год назад
I agree, they need to look again.
@tripleeathletics
@tripleeathletics Год назад
The transponder bulbs are about 25ft before the flag stand. It’s not exactly decided at the flag stand like it should be. I say they need a high speed camera located ON the flag stand, and the winner is determined by the car that crosses first…
@charlesd.3749
@charlesd.3749 Год назад
Even with the bad camera angle you could tell he was ahead of him at the line. That’s crazy.
@fewworddotrick
@fewworddotrick Год назад
​@@tripleeathleticsthat doesn't make any sense...the transponder beacon should line up basically exactly with finish line
@goldhunter9641
@goldhunter9641 Год назад
Transponder Finish LOL I bet if Hudson's car would have had the number 20RT on the side of it, they would be here till this time next week trying to decide, who should we give this win to LMAO.. gotta love the politics involved
@johnp.1971
@johnp.1971 Год назад
Looks like O’Neal at the line
@tristanmix9932
@tristanmix9932 Год назад
Definitely looked like O'Neil got that shit
@MrChristopherHaas
@MrChristopherHaas Год назад
This is what happens when the #49 doesnt get carried away lol
@jacasoasheland6815
@jacasoasheland6815 Год назад
WOW! Looks like the Blue car won though
@anggr4549
@anggr4549 Год назад
If o'neal would not have made a mistake he would have won! Nice job bobby!
@fewworddotrick
@fewworddotrick Год назад
Bobby did a hell of a job but hudson got that one. If the transponder isnt lined up correctly with the finish line (someone said 25ft away) sounds like grounds for a lawsuit
@clifforddriskel9138
@clifforddriskel9138 Год назад
It's quite normal actually, they're almost never below the flagger....and the drivers usually know where it is so it doesn't matter. I've seen them as far as 25-30 before the stand.
@fewworddotrick
@fewworddotrick Год назад
@@clifforddriskel9138 what's the point? I come from kart racing not really familiar with the setup for dirt late models but I know with karts that is definitely not normal. Transponder is lined up at the finish line and that's the final word.
@dougnichols2347
@dougnichols2347 Год назад
the announcers called it a "photo" finish. i'd like to see the photo of Bobby ahead of Hudson, just so the fans can learn where the finish line, oops i mean scoring loop, is located. why cant all tracks just make the Scoring loop and the finish line at the same place? Hopefully going forward James and the broadcast crew can let us know before the race starts weather it will end at the finish line, or before the finish line x amount of feet where the unseen scoring loop is. ya, know so we don't get all excited when the one that crosses the line first is not declared the winner. regardless of the outcome. it was a great race. but lucas oil got it wrong. Bobby may have been ahead at that scoring loop. It sure would have been nice to know that that final scoring loop is now where the race ends. maybe they can paint the wall facing the crowd and cameras with something like a line or something. maybe even a checkered line so we know where it ends. then they could add cameras at that spot too. ya know, for the close finishes heck hire i guy to wave colored flags from that spot. maybe lucas oil is on to something. id apply for that job. the scoring loop reading / flag waver guy.
@thomasvaught262
@thomasvaught262 11 месяцев назад
You sound like an uneducated casual spectator. For the past 25 years dirt tracks have been scored and judged this way. The scoring loop IS the start/finish line. Transponders are mounted in the same location on all cars, but yeah let's start a petition to get every dirt track in the country to dig up their scoring loop and bury them exactly in line with the flagstand because your feelings got hurt when they announced the ACTUAL winner.
@harveytoomey3580
@harveytoomey3580 Год назад
The understanding I get the transponder line isn’t 100% straight either
@jeffomspaugh6691
@jeffomspaugh6691 Год назад
I guess the photo decision depends on the driver affected
@ericallen7589
@ericallen7589 Год назад
😮
@Jakeking-hx7jp
@Jakeking-hx7jp 10 месяцев назад
49
@andrewdials958
@andrewdials958 Год назад
Lucas oil is looking at this finish transponder is good thru the race except the last lap then they go by flag stand photo which clearly shows O'Neil winning. Just like earlier this year a race between B shep and Bruening shep beat him to the transponder but Bruening beat shep to flag stand they gave the win to b shep but after looking at photo they reversed the call because Bruening got to the flag stand first. Same situation here . Lucas oil will make the right call on this one to.
@jjs9913
@jjs9913 11 месяцев назад
It's already been made official...the start/finish line is not the flag stand at that track its around 20 feet before it. There's nothing for them to review and the transponder timer has Pierce ahead also.
@jimmymeeks6908
@jimmymeeks6908 Год назад
Awesome race the two best out there today in my opinion congrats Bobby 👍
@danno_1520
@danno_1520 Год назад
Hudson won the damn race
@jamesriley9800
@jamesriley9800 Год назад
I wish he did but I don't think the transponder line is at the flag stand I thinks it's like 15 foot before it
@happywrenching960
@happywrenching960 Год назад
Yeah it was a great race, but it's a shame that Lucas got the winner wrong. They need to change it. O'Neal won that hands down.
@ChrisMcIntosh-lj7rf
@ChrisMcIntosh-lj7rf Год назад
Oh yes O'Neal won look at the photos at the finish line
@itzmikeomg2755
@itzmikeomg2755 11 месяцев назад
If O'Neal hadn't messed up in turn 2 he`d of won.
@sirhcllewen5685
@sirhcllewen5685 Год назад
The line is the same for all. Wtg BP32
@danielboynton3324
@danielboynton3324 День назад
Where the finish line!
@adamh2362
@adamh2362 Год назад
He had to know pierce was gonna throw that massive slide at him in 3 and 4 Hudson shoulda undercut him he woulda won easily the way pierce hit the wall.
@robbiebrown3840
@robbiebrown3840 Год назад
Transponders in different places
@benniebridenthal950
@benniebridenthal950 Год назад
Hudson got robbed on that one
@brandonherrell5349
@brandonherrell5349 Год назад
Yeah O'Neil won that
@zterminatorxx6525
@zterminatorxx6525 Год назад
Hudson won that race that was a bad call
@worldofoutlaw1353
@worldofoutlaw1353 Год назад
O’Neal got robbed. He won that
@areaone3813
@areaone3813 Год назад
That’s some bullshit! The visual is O’Neal
@ericanderson4441
@ericanderson4441 Год назад
Don't call it a photo finish, if you're going to ignore the photos... I understand that the scoring loop may not be exactly at the flagstand, but it should be marked in some way. Whether you're a fan, or racer, to be told to ignore what we can still see with our eyes, is wrong.
@davids5006
@davids5006 Год назад
Very wrong
@rapingoldladies
@rapingoldladies Год назад
Hud got robbed
@Chitowndipper
@Chitowndipper Год назад
Hudson won
@thesnows4329
@thesnows4329 11 месяцев назад
Something about this photo finish looks a little off. Guess seeing it with your own eyes doesn’t matter.
@thedude4457
@thedude4457 Год назад
Wow what a terrible call for the win!!!!!
@jerryfasnacht
@jerryfasnacht Год назад
I think they need to get rid of scoring loops and electionic scoring and go old school and race to the checkered flag and cut out all the extra bullshit and making things more complicated than it needs to be, i think the biggest problem with dirt track racing today is we're getting too far from the roots of racing and getting to the point
@roydcox1282
@roydcox1282 11 месяцев назад
Oneal won by a nose what is up with that
@dylanneitzel1592
@dylanneitzel1592 Год назад
clearly hudson is ahead..not by much but still ahead. should of stuck his tongue out i guess lol.
@netflixnchil421
@netflixnchil421 Год назад
Hard to tell where transponder line is. And the transponder is mounted under the driver. It's not where the nose goes over the line it's when the driver crosses the line. And let's keep in mind them rocket cars are notoriously longer then longhorns specially the nose piece.
@michaelarrington988
@michaelarrington988 Год назад
Transponders mount on the right rear axle tube
@joshpitts7256
@joshpitts7256 Год назад
🤦🏻‍♂️
@jasonbullard2159
@jasonbullard2159 Год назад
Stop using the term photo finish when every photo shows the Rocket1 winning!!! Heck just do away with the flag stand and just use lights since you aren’t going to use the checkered flag as the finish 🤡🤡
@Etan1122
@Etan1122 Год назад
Hudson was robbed.
@BradenLewis-bm2ur
@BradenLewis-bm2ur Год назад
Incorrect
@shrpshootr
@shrpshootr Год назад
Timing line is just behind the flag stand, this is local track for me. Gotta remember where timing lines are my friend
@jjs9913
@jjs9913 11 месяцев назад
@@shrpshootr For so many peop,people, to be dirt fans its amazing how many have no clue how these races are determined or that tye transponder loop is not directly under the flag stand smh
@shroomzftw
@shroomzftw Год назад
O'Neill won that by the nose of his car man that's b*******
@clifforddriskel9138
@clifforddriskel9138 Год назад
The flag stand doesn't determine the winner, the timing line does. A lot of tracks have it several (25' or so) before the stand itself.
@davids5006
@davids5006 Год назад
@@clifforddriskel9138so there isn't an official start finish line... Seems stupid to me
@jerryfasnacht
@jerryfasnacht Год назад
​@@davids5006oh i know, before it used to be race to the checkered flag which is the way it should be, i say we should cut out technology from dirt track racing and go back to the roots of it and get straight to the point and less bullshit and headaches, photo finishes should be determined by photo and video and not by transponders that plain and simple
@happywrenching960
@happywrenching960 Год назад
Guys, it doesn't matter where the transponder beacon is set. It's called a start/finish line for a reason. If that's how the race was decided it's pathetic.
@user-hz2qd1er8r
@user-hz2qd1er8r Год назад
Are they blind
@wilddeuce9461
@wilddeuce9461 Год назад
O’Neal won that race. Even Ray Charles can see O’Neal won that race.
@marshalllaw2865
@marshalllaw2865 Год назад
Exactly,I think Lucas had a blunder on this one
@joshpitts7256
@joshpitts7256 11 месяцев назад
Facts...
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