India's Notice to Amend the Indus Waters Treaty 

She is Rahul Gandhi explaining ancient India scriptures

Perfect example of Talking About Everything And Nothing.

Uzair should get a special award in keeping a straight face and holding on to his patience. How does Pakistan keep producing such gems as this lady …..

35 minutes into this video, I am clueless what is she trying to explain😅 Hatts off to Uzair Bhai for his patience🎉

I never understood why India has a moral duty of bada bhai in the region towards Pakistan after 4 wars..this idiotic syndrome that as a bigger nation we have bigger responsibility towards a nation that pinched us all the time.. enough of this if not then Kashmir issue would have been settled with hardened stance in 71..

Am at 44 minutes without any explanation of what the current problem is. Consider not having a treaty at all.

Listening to the lady is like stream of consciousness, she keeps on rambling about all topics without specifically coming to the question asked 🤣🤣🤣

Moral is: Quit watching just because Uzair is a rational guy……it is a rarity….Pakistanis in general repeat inanities/generalities that they hear from other Pakistanis without bothering to read the subject and making clear points.

She's the perfect example of, "Kehna kya chahati ho?"

Save yourself listening to the entire podcast, the last 3 minutes are the most important. If you are even more lazy, following is the summary of the entire podcast. 1. Yes, we (Pakistan) started a Neutral observer analysis and Court of Arbitration simultaneously. This is because we do not trust Neutral observer due to a bad ruling in the Baglihar project. 2. Dispute resolution mechanism be damned - we will do what we want because we lost one case. Yes, we are being a baby, we want a favourable ruling and we will go anywhere we get a favourable ruling. 3. India cannot do anything, they should accommodate us because we are the baby. 4. Let us discuss the history of treaty, blah blah blah 5. What can be done to improve the treaty - I don't know, because I do not have the expertise. So I will make some sh*t up regarding climate management, rights of Kashmiris. Never mind that the 3 rivers are from Kashmir and they cannot use any of it right now.

The Indus Water Treaty gives 80% water to Pakisyan and 20% to India. Nowhere else in the world does a lower riparian get that much. A poor India was armtwisted by World Bank to sign a highly unfair treaty because at that time Pakistan was in western camp. Nehru was greatly criticized and in his defense he said that the treaty will guarantee peace between the two countries. Did it? Pakistan started 3 overt wars (1965, 71, 99) and two proxy wars (Kashmir, Khalistan) plus many other terror attacks including our parliament, 26/11 etc. India never violated the treaty even during the war. Instead of being super grateful for that, Pak anchors accuse India of stealing water. Pretty darn foolish to be over generous and still be accused of theft. Time to review the treaty and bring in line with other treaties across the world.

Pakistan gets 80pc of the water. Don't know how India signed it.

Fact of the matter is Pakistan has already breached the treaty by filing a case in INTERNATIONAL COURT -(BTW WHICH GOT REJECTED) WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE REDRESSAL STEPS MENTIONED IN TREATY -. INDIA IS JUST REACTING TO PAK'S ACTION

Doesn't talk anything meaningful. No talk about what is the problem. Doesn't even show Paksitan's Perspective actually. Much less about Indian side. All the talk is around the treaty and not the treaty Itself and its history and its impacts and politics around it and the future.

very vague dissscussion,

@21:56 Lady says, "Pakistan gets most of the water". I don't understand what the problem is. Pakistan probably needs to manage the water more efficiently downstream.

The notice is because Pakistan is using dispute resolution mechanism as a way to delay dam construction by India. Kishan Ganga dam has been delayed by more than a decade.

Congratulations uzyar for having one of the most booring wasteful discussion.. I love your content normally but came so close to unsubscribing to you. One hour and not one facts and figures . One number . absolutely none .all vague adjectives. It is not a difficult discussion . This is what happens . India gets x percent pak gets y percent .India wants this change while will make it x+a for India and y-a for Pakistan ... Instead of that no real data except vague statements like India gets substantial water from these three rivers . You always say half of your viewers are indians . Do you know why ..because we want to see both sides of the coin and understand why and how of everything. Even on a booring topic like indus water treaty. You as the interviewer need to push the answers for facts instead of jargons .

LADY IS CONTRADICTING EVERY WORDS IN THE TREATY ...TREATY VERY CLEARLY MENTIONS ' HOW A ISSUE AND WHAT ARE THE STEPS TO BE TAKEN ..THE TREATY IS IN PUBLIC PLATFORM - ANY ONE CAN READ IT ..STOP CREATING FALSE NARRATIVE OF MISINTERPRETATION ..

I listened until 36 minutes. I want refund on those minutes. Or pay me for those minutes. This is the most WTF discussions of Uzair, which usually are insightful. Like others said, stop watching and save yourselves that time.

Uzair, be honest please….do you have more clarity on IWT now after this 1 hour exposition by this ‘expert’? See, this is a symptomatic problem in Pakistan, that of intellectual honesty. This lady tied herself into knots and was as clear as mud, simply because she did not want to admit these core points of the IWT: 1. That it’s a generous agreement by an upper riparian. No such river treaty exists in the world that has so much being gifted to the lower riparian state. (She did not even mention this in passing). 2. That India has been serious about managing its water and has slowly, and in the last twenty years, rapidly, built the infra around it. In contrast Pakistan has been incompetent every step of the way. 3. India has been meticulous in keeping the data around all aspects of IWT. Pakistan has not, and it still borrows data points from India to make its own reports to this day. (Again the lady said nothing about this fundamental issue). 4. India now wants to seek an agreement where it can claim more waters from the western rivers because the demography has changed in India and it needs more water to support its increased agri and industrial usage. Besides, it despises the way Pakistan wastes its fresh water. This claim that India will make will have support from the international orgs because all existing water treaties are actually far more tilted towards the upper riparian state than the IWT. Hence, what India will demand will be more a norm than an exception,and it will be able to cite the data from existing water treaties. None of this was discussed but this ridiculously prolix woman.

Show me one nation on earth that being an upper riparian gives its neighbour right over 80% of the water?! Thats India for you folks.

Let me add some points that were conveniently forgotten by the "expert". 1. The first dispute resolution mechanism is the neutral expert (in case the countries couldn't settle dispute within themselves) unless both countries agree to skip neutral expert. In this scenario, since India hasn't agreed to skip neutral expert, WB can't appoint the Court of Arbitration before neutral experts gives his/her decision. 2. No discussion on what impact new technologies have on the treaty. New ways to build dams, to de silt etc. If you don't have an honest discussion, you will not be able to fight on this issue on international stage.

She have more focus on his accent and expression than substance in talks .

Such poor podcast. Totally wasted my time. Just crying "India bad" the entire time

Uzair Bhai should get award for showing patience with this person.Seriously most clueless guest on this show,not explaining the key point at all...

The guy at one point says Pakistani media will say "another saazish by India" etc instead of discussing the actual issue. After some time, he says it himself - this is precisely what I would do if I were India, Pakistan is down and struggling, and India would try to add to its problems. Clearly, it's not a lack of education for Pakistanis, from any street vendor to an English-speaking thinking guy. It's the same mentality - 'India is out there to get you...."

One party can't give notice, that is funny, if there is an agreement between 2 sides, which one side does not any longer agree to it. They give notice. Basic Contract Law

Alcohol might be haram in Islam but not gaanja. And this lady is a good example of that. XD

Great conversation. The guest provides relevant and insightful context to an enduring challenge

Congratulations and Thanks for a detailed and informed coverage of IWT. However, any 101 on IWT must at least must mention that Pakistan did not sign IWT FOR FREE. 1. INR 6,153,000,000 India gave to Pakistan for signing the treaty, not as a loan, but as a GRANT (AID). 2. The Huge GRANTS (AID) given to Pakistan by USA, UK, Australia, New Zealand and West Germany. 3. The only two big dams Pakistan has built since its CREATION were an outcome of Pakistan signing this treaty. 4. About Pakistan's rights, and what PERCENTAGE of water Pakistan gets under IWT as the lower riparian in comparison to other such International River Water Treaties - like Amazon and Nile river water treaties. Pakistan is allotted more share of the water than other lower riparians. 5. India has never taken a dispute for resolution. 6. Every time Pakistan has taken the dispute for Resolution it has FAILED in its contentions. 7. But, every time Pakistan has taken the dispute for resolution it has caused INORDINATE DELAYS in the completion of Indian projects. As a result of which India has had to suffer HUGE FINANCIAL LOSS. 8. Every time India starts new project permitted by IWT Pakistan takes the matter for resolution on FRIVOLIOUS ground - such cause India damage. 9. Pakistan's approach can be summed as: We will not do anything but we will not let you do anything.

What a dumb inference of all this talk. Water is more important than terrorism and loss of life?

Don't worry India will abrogate this treaty just like article 370 of Kashmir

47:40 All things boil down to this, How this Treaty has benefited India and Indians?

Just couldn't understand what was the point of the whole discussion?

Simply put - Pakistan was supposed to get 80% water from Indus water system. India was supposed to get only 20 % water. Whenever India tried to build hydel power projects on western rivers to enable it to use its full share of water, Pakistan objected to it by going for arbiration where it would lose the case but would delay Indian projects by decades. All this while Pakistan has been getting more than its share of water. It is even getting Indian share of water.Thst way Pakistan has been violating Indus Water treaty all these years. India should seek compensation for the loss suffered by India because of Pakistani intransigence.[Curtsy: Atul Besra]

Without timestamps its just selfishness to increase watchtime.

I think the discussion on IWT is good way of relook at the treaty , given the current reality, the new and updated data of water flow, the level of sedimentation, the climate change impacts. I think it is blessing in disguise for Pakistan.

Women ☕

Dr. Erum said take moral grounds for people of Kashmir or benefits of Kashmiris. But Pakistani panjab mostly benefits from that Indus water treaty...as per Sindhi say in pakistan...But Dr. Erum ma'am did 1) Maxico gets a 90% OR claims river/water treaty with the USA.. 2) India can claim the river without having a treaty with the Chinese... which flows from Tibet 3) Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia can claim the Mekong river with china... That's not the case in the real world big countries squash smaller countries demand... But still 90% water awarded treaty exists between India and Pakistan.

Uzair the issue is simple 70-75% water flows to Pakistan for 77 years what did they do? Let's distribute evenly and be happy both... India has 1.4 billion people.. And all that bla bla bla of Sea water coming in is good for Pakistan they can build dam in sind n make more real estate which they can exploit. As they have already auctioned river beds In ravi river bed

We would like to know about uzairs thought on india after his recent india visit

_Thank you Uzair bro. One good thing happen, this video gave me an idea of developing a Chrome extension which writes a short summary of the video using the transcript, with the help of ChatGPT._ _Maybe, I will embed TTS as-well. Which will read the summary for the user._

Sir, if you just mention those books in your description, that would be fantastic

She is totally biased pakistani and also confused that she need to be liberal. And western... Victim hood in educated pakistani also.

10 minutes videos on this topic by UPSC teachers gives more clarity on this topic than 56 minutes video. Sorry. Thanks god, I have habit of listening tube audio 1.5X. I saved my 10 minutes of my life at-least. May be because I'm quite drunk right now. I got nothing from this long video.

😂😂 kisi bhi Pakistani channel pe jao... comment section me sirf Indian hi milte...sad and funny at the same time

I am so glad I came to the comment section 20 minutes into it. What an absolute waste of time, she decides to talk about everything but the treaty itself. Typical pakistani guest that feels India and the world owes pakistan something. Lets understand this more clearly. 1. Pakistan gets 80% of the water and India gets 20% of it which never happens in a lower riparian county. Its the exact opposite across the world with higher riparian countries getting majority of water. Yet Erum constantly asserts that pakistan is "owed" 80% of the water. Its not. 2. She goes around everything from history, spirit, climate, etc but barely discusses the treaty itself. She then goes on to accuse India of stealing water because India built dams and infrastructure which pakistan has left no stone unturned to stop stalling the projects by decades. 3. Zero solutions suggested in the mindless discussion. 4. India has given a notice not a "so called notice". The despondency her perspective and the choice of words is so clear. I am sometimes bedazzled by how disingenuous pakistani commentators can actually are. I constantly search into the pakistani content to find some amount of genuineness but am constantly met with anything but condescension, entitlement, absurdity or excuses. This podcast is the one in which all four are displayed outrageously. But I have to admit there is something to admire about pakistanis, it takes balls (or a total lack of self respect) to be seeking so many concessions from the country that they claim to be their sworn enemy.

Pak doing nakli English accent we never seen in India 😂

Ok reading comments I am sure that....its not worth the time. Anyways Thanks Uzair for trying to incorporate a new and Important topic.

10 minutes into the conversation and the lady makes nonsense. Looked her up on linkedin. She has MS is sustainable water management which has nothing to do with indus water treaty. And ignorance shows

Yes, it seems she cannot answer any question directly without deviating. Anyway, pakistan should have developed its water management building dams, hydro electric power etc. But they pour all their money into the military and the poor suffer.

Pakistan can no longer rely on World Bank to favor it on this matter as it gets a new President of Indian-origin Ajay Banga...

She is indeed pakistani , she is perfect example of don't know anything

Is rising sea level not responsible for impacting Delta's world over, diverting Indus has lesser impact, internal problems in Pakistan are more politically motivated than water related, at the end Pakistan has to better manage their water resources.

This is like a interview for a job where she is some or max half knowledge... But she wants to be the Pak observer at PIC and write *first draft* ... De do behen ku job

Either I am too dumb to understand what shes trying to say, or she hasn't explained what this IWT is about and what Pak has to negotiate about the eastern 3 rivers.

Blah blah blah! Rivers do their thing????😂😂😂 half way through rational sides went numb!!!

She has 10 minutes of content 46 minutes of build up.

This is a joke or some sort of parody right?! If at all this is for real, I don't know how you can call the lady an "expert".

She has the issue, as experts ofren do, of wanting to pack too much nuance into things before necessarily preparing the audience of for the material it is about to ingest.

Where the proof of claims made by mam money was taken on table pak establishment was in govt that time ayub khan do u think seriously

She does not make sense or I am too dumb. She even does not answer what India is asking at this time.

What this lady is trying to say? She is beating around bush a lot but rarely coming to core issue.

She's just eating dollars of Pakistani people.

My cousin who is in 8th standard have written better essay on Indus water treaty than this discussion.

Uzair from where did u get this woman 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I live in Canada & my love for pakistan is getting more and more -- ~

This is a perfect example of Pakistan history... Everything is about Kashmir... inhe yaha bhi Kashmir soojh raha hain

Very bad and unintellectual discussion

The Indians in this comment box seem to know more than this lady 😀

She deserves the Hilale pakistan Award 😂

If this is intellectual standards for Pakistani, no wonder Pakistan is in crisis . No offense to uzair bhai , i think u choose your panelist more carefully.

I couldn't understand a thing !!

fyi pak gets 80% of the water does not seem to be fair usage lol

pakistan and morality are antonyms

Uzair Bhai - please get better guests.

Can't understand what she want to say

Blood and water can't flow at a same time

she took 56 min for 5 min answers :/

So this lady is an intellectual? I am sorry to say but it speaks volumes about how delusional some people can be about their intellect.

Huge history.😭🤣

There is not a single point mentioned about generosity of the Indian side maintaining the treaty work even after the 80% water is of Pakistan usage and still there is treaty initiator(India) manipulated.... wow...

My first question, what was the need to do this treaty? What were the outcomes if India had refused to do any treaty with Pakistan?

What is she going on about?

IWT more in Pakistan favour how India signed treaty

Total time waste

Boring !!!!!

Heard India dam is built is unfinished for years!

*Former

I don't mean to be disrespectful but it's hard to make sense of what she is speaking even for a person like me who has a background in this topic. Start with an overview, then dive into the details depending on your audience and then move to summarize/comments & DON'T DIGRESS. The crux of the topic: Pakistan benefits 80%+ from the treaty in terms of the volume of water flow & yet the country suffers water problem ONLY because of it's poor management. Now Pakistan is opposing dam constructions & has overiden the arbitration process. India has responded and issued a notice, not a so-called notice. Why blabber for over 30 min when you can wrap it up in 3 sentences?

Jethalal - arey pagal. Aurat ....

Dear Uzair & Dr. Erum, it is an Interesting conversation on IWT. My previous company built Kishanganga Hydro Power project besides several HPPs in J&K (India). I understand the technicalities on HPPs. One question comes in my mind that why Pakistan did not build enough HPPs/ Dams to utilise available water and even today significant amount of water flows through Pakistan and terminates in Arabian sea without much of utilisation. Is this the reason the opinion of neutral expert or arbitrator is going against Pakistan? I sincerely hope this matter should be resolved amicably.

Uzair bhai neend kaise nahi aayi aapko...

Great discussion ❤❤

Are madam bolna kya chahte ho

Is she really an expert on this issue 😹😹

At the end of video you will scratch your head - so save your 30 minutes of life 😂😂

Forget about intellects please try to get people with common sense. I appreciate your patience having her in show and listening to all shit tantrum she did.

Treaty clearly states that dispute must be managed in hierarchy basis so don't Say there is nothing🥴 atleast read carefully when reading 😂