@the_travelling-miss just a friendly advice…..please please learn to let others talk. You overtalk and cut people mid sentence. It feels like you are pushing everyone else aside. Love the vlogs though.
Interesting conversation. I like how all of you were open-minded when interviewing the muhindi guy. However, as an interviewer, it is good not to ask questions without showing bias but just in a prudent way. Avoid using phrases like "you people" when pointing at a person like you are scorning them. Good that he took it lightly. If it was the other way round it could have been taken badly by fellow black Kenyans!
Many Indians in Kenya believe in the religious caste system that is honestly segregationist. There are those among them who belong to higher castes and esteem themselves as superior to people of other castes and races. Very sad, in my view.
If employer-employee practises are wrong then it definitely need repairs. Part of it got to do with your govt as well to put proper labour reforms in place. But community living is a norm across the world to practise their respective religions, stay and feel relatively secured against the majority of the region. Fact of the matter is, if it had been indentured labour colony none would had cared to even give them a look, but since Indian community in kenya and africa in general is mostly a business community unlike the caribbeans they are normally attacked, done covert operations on.
Love you mam ❤ from India As a dalit girl from India I can say about marriage They don't marry other caste people they marry in their own caste . They don't marry in lower caste , if someone that they kill lower caste About discrimination and caste system She's brahmin upper caste She will deny it as mostly upper caste Hindu hide caste system from foreigners Caste exist all over india We dalit have dark skin then her generally some caste of dalits have light brown skin but for my caste we are not like her skin shes really fair skin All upper caste have light skin just like her shes top high caste of all she is brahmin . Those gujratis are mostly middle caste not higher or lower they can be touched or people eat their food . For us dalit its hard to make upper caste people friends Their ancestors are rich and Our ancestors were slaves and Labours to them , our people work for them even today . Manual scavenging is still done by our people not by them . Its really hard life for people like us . Thankyou ma'am again you are brave and said excellently You confronted priya nicely Not all Indians will tell you this as mostly will hide it only us who deal with racism and hate will tell you
@@the_traveling_miss Exactly, today they are three thousand, tomorrow thay are a million. Imagine having a miliion people who dont't mix with the locals and nobody knows anything about them.
@@the_traveling_miss It should never be allowed, they should not lie to anyone that it's about religion. How come they live in places like Europe without having to segregate themselves?
For the love of God this is not Europe or America…why these leaders let these things happening in Africa this is insane…Africa should not put up with this anymore…don’t let it become South Africa 🇿🇦…this crazy Africa come on get with it..watching from the USA 🇺🇸🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Ive been reading the replies to the comments and your responses are not really good especially to me. You create the impression that indians don't want to mingle with Africans yet they have been here for decades. Indians have provided employment to many Kenyans. Those apartments are only rented by a particular group of indians but everywhere else indians live among Africas. Have you been to other towns in Kenya and see how they live or even Ngara and parklands. Stop generalizing. The Kenyan Indians are even 6th generation. They have no where else to call home. Majority have never been to India. Stop saying that they have a second home. They have a right to be in Kenya like every one else.
All you have said is correct but it also true that they could do a better job with assimilation with the rest of Kenyans. The fact that some entertain only Indians within their properties or neighbourhoods in this day and age is mind blowing. That fact alone can make them lose the goodwill of Kenyans and be discriminated against if not harm visited on them.
Indians have been here for 6 generations Africans have been here since time immemorial. I have nothing against Indians but I have everything against segregation. Those who mingle with Africans don't make it right for others to segregate. If you want to live in African, you assimilate to us coz the first generation to come here came from somewhere and they can go back there. Africans on the other hand have no where else they would even go. I am extremely curious about that estate and would definitely like to find out more about their reasons for segregation.
@@the_traveling_miss Indians all over the world have a close knit society not like Africans socializing everywhere..We should respect that. And they are not going to change just because you call it segregation.
Go to their channels you will see them talking in the same episode. You just watched part of it on my channel when I was the one doing the questioning.
I don't got beef with people just because others have beef with them. We have our brains to decide...plus there are always 2 sides of the story. Good luck Miss Coco with yor youtube God bless yu
No I have leaved in India as an Kenyan African you can't work or start a business as an African in India it's next to impossible especially if you black African ,yet in Kenya they even have successfully businesses they have a place where they can leave alone and they don't allow black African ,I mean what's that about
There you have told a lie. How can someone deny you the right to live anywhere in Kenya? Go to Parklands and Westlands you will find lots of apartments being sold by the same same Indians and anyone can buy if you have the money.
@@the_traveling_miss I have no words it so sad how the Indians discrimination against black African in Africa where countries like Kenya the richest person is an Indian and yet in there on country your not aloud even to start a small shop stall
People who care about personal life of youtubers or even celebrities make me laugh, how boring people must be to live other people life. Some folks care more about internet people than their own family. So many books to read and people waste their time to gossip about people they never met....Sorry I had to say that😅 since you got a lot of "hate" about this colabo.
My thoughts are, you are free to love who you love and feel the way you feel about them and if your love for them makes you not want to interact with their enemies, so be it. You're free to do as you please. Just don't expect everyone to be like you. Some of us don't want to fight battles that don't belong to us. I have nothing against both people and would love to collaborate with both whenever the opportunity arises as I can learn a lot from them both 🤗.
I was shocked to hear that there is a community in Nairobi just for Indians. In U.S it is illegal to discriminate based on religion race gender national origin just to name a few. That is in anything including housing. But places are segregated due to cost. They raise price to cater for the rich who are mostly a particular race
Because it was legal in the 50s to say no bl@cks. They made it illegal but landlords looked for a way around it, they use a credit system where they won’t allow you to rent the newest apartment in the best neighborhoods. It is complicated because of things like whyte privilege and generational wealth. It is hard to pay 3000$ for rent so any place where it is below 1500$ a month is mixed and black neighborhoods
To get most of decent apartments you are required to make 4 times the rent. If it is 2000 you have to make 8000$ a month. Just a way of saying you are not middle class we don’t want you here.
The guy that said Abidjan is more developed that Nairobi after being in Nairobi for 2 days has absolutely no idea of what he is talking about. I lived and worked in the whole of west Africa and there is no city in west Africa that is more developed that Nairobi.
Abijan looks really nice from the photos and videos too. I can't wait to get there someday but from all the cities I've been to so far, Nairobi remains undefeated.😊
@@aboosis4690 well been to a city doesn’t mean you know it well. Am sure you went to kibera and generalized the whole city. Ask yourself why United Nations and many world organizations chose Nairobi as headquarters.
Comments on this vlog: Hi Susan. Good to see you again. First, Indians always say food isn't spicy when it is. Don't hold them hostage to this. I believe it's bc they are accustomed to spices that their bodies are immune to it. So they aren't aware that a little spice can be alot for someone who are not vase to it. I think you can agree on your experience in Ghana. 😉 I personally don't eat spicy foods. I have to say that indian man nailed it when he said Europeans have made you forget your culture. It's a big fact I take a personal issue with this. I feel they also did this with my ppl as well. However, my people should know better. They should see how the generations have been influenced in a bad way and slowly losing their identities in dressing, talking, and even somewhat avoiding their ethnic value. Africans/Indians need to preserve their culture so it continues in the right direction.
Not 100% sure but from my understanding regarding the samaj estate is that those properties are built specifically by that caste/tribe and a lot of times they are built as subsidized houses only for community members who belong to the same community. Basically members donate to the temple and the community and over time those funds are used to build estates to give these same members affordable housing. Hence why it is reserved specifically for them. Not only Africans but even Indians from a different community are usually not allowed to live there.
South C also used to have a large Indian community when I was growing up in the late 70's and 80's. Kisumu and Mombasa have a large population too. In my home county Kericho we have the Largest Sikh temple in Africa.
I thought it's the walalos who are the majority in those areas. I'm surprised. I also didn't know about the sikh temple. I'll have to come to Kericho one of these days.😊
Australia is nothing like America. Australia is laidback with a good lifestyle. Living off the land is applauded so that Aussie would hsve been giving you a compliment ...
Nice to see you collaborate with 2 classy people. Something tells me you would be great as a podcaster debating issues relating to Social Justice, Politics etc
@the_traveling_miss I have watched you sometimes bite your tongue when it was obvious you'd more to say. People are dead sensitive in this global travel space. You seem to be a good debater guided by facts not bluster. Hopefully with time you can become a featured guest on a podcast - that way you can really fly knowing the audience is conditioned to different opinions w/o taking offence.
Just search for the siddis or the Dravidians. The untouchables. India has pushed them into extinction. No education, no jobs, no development in the regions they live. No hope. Africans should know how to treat Indians just as they treat our people in India. 💯 Racism
Your experience is not everybody’s we watched on the internet an African guy a Congolese being beaten to death by Indian police officers in India, just because of immigration peppers, these people can be very racist and dangerous.
@@eliasnestor9482 not can be according to my experience, these are the worst people in the world. Whytes and Arabs are even better. I don't know if people really know who Indians are. The day I get activated I hope to uproot all of them from doing business or even stepping foot in Kenya and influence other Africans to idi Amin them out. These are coming to solve their homelessness and poverty in Africa ! we let them ! Africans stop this carelessness! Let's keep Africa homogeneous
I love the content and the video. But please moderate your talking. You're talking Soo much that you are overpowering the other guys. Give everyone a chance.
Take it positively as constructive criticism. It can be overwhelming at times. I get it you are extroverted and chit-chatty but this is your job and you wanna broaden your audience not shrink it.
@@alexchui3511that’s unfair. As she said, this is her vlog and so, she is more dominant. On Priya’s vlog she comes across as talking more than the others. I love how Suzie talks fast.
@@ivorharry6372 When several people notice it, then it means it is a concern and should be taken as a positive feedback. I'm sure she loves what she is doing but she should also care about her audience especially if this is her livelihood. The problem is not her speaking fast per se, she speaks well and with the right diction and intonation but she can be a bit of a chatterbox that overwhelms her other interlocutors and thus denying her viewership hearing other people she is interacting with. As the viewing audience, we can only give feedback.
@alexchui3511 As I said which you happened to miss and take this as constructive feedback from me to you,you are watching this video on my channel, so I'm dominant here. When you go watch the same video on Ivain's channel, he will be dominant there, same as in Priya's channel. Or in simple terms, you are watching my part of asking him questions and in the other channels you will watch their parts of them asking him questions. Ça va?
I enjoyed this episode with the Indians, I just wished you would talk a little less. You absolutely dominated the conversation and would not let your colleagues put in a word
@The Traveling Miss: Assume I am a recent immigrant from India. Suppose I buy a plot of land and build a house on that land in Kenya with my own money. Assume myself and my family are living there. Are you telling me: 1. Anyone who is a Kenyan can walk into my house without my permission just because Kenya according to him is his only motherland? 2. Can any Kenyan dictate to me whom I should invite into my home or not just because Kenya according to him is his only motherland? 3. Can any Kenyan dictate to me to whom I should sell my house to if I chose to sell my house just because Kenya according to him is his only motherland? These are very simple questions. Kindly answer them in congruence with current existing laws in Kenya.
Hi Suzy....the head of the TTM family💖💖I must say how much I enjoyed this video. Three of my favorite RU-vidrs......congratulations. It pleases me to see a collection of intelligence, informative and educative content. Every bit of the video showed remarkable collaboration in the true sense. Keep traveling and creating the world is waiting for you👏👏🙌🙌🌹🌹Many blessing, sending you love and light
Wow! Thank you so much for this very kind comment. I'm truly having a wonderful time collaborating with these two amazing people...😊😊 Sending love and light right back at you❤❤.
Yoooooooh I liked the interview. Girl you got the guts😁 that part of interviewing the "indian boss" I liked him very nice convo. Bila hard feelings. And I loooove Priya. I liked her from naniiis channel (sitaki kutaja hio jina hapa)and subscibed. I was happy she came.
Hi sister Suzie! Sorry for late but you guys are posting same time so sometimes I dont know which one to watch first 😅 Not easy but I am doing my best to satisfy every one of you.❤ Love the vlog
I grew up in the UK. I don't remember Indians building a housing estate exclusively for themselves. There are estates (usually the poorer ones) which are Indian (South Asian) but that was because when Indians started to move in the indigenous Britons moved out to predominantly White estates. The last person you interviewed was really good, very factual and sensible.
Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Nepalis, srilankan's also generally get confused as Indians. Hard to realize by just seeing. You have to have a deeper understanding of the ethnicities and nationalities to know if all Indians looking are Indians.
INDIAN COLONY? what a catchy but misleading heading? indians were brought to kenya by british to build the railways in late 1800s. and when we say indians we mean before it broke with pakistan. others were taken to south africa, trinidad and tobago, fiji and guyana.. its good to research before you mislead..after independence many were in limbo and stateless after britain blocked immigration to UK. those in kenya are just that. kenyans.
But some Africans can make you very angry, how can you allow foreigners to shit on your head in your own country? These people are in your country and they don't want you to live with them??? Can they allow Kenyans to do that in India? Rubbish this is really annoying.
Indians are all over the world. In Canada, they've taken the whole city (Brampton). In the USA, we have the Kisii community. In the USA and Canada, we have Chinatowns. Modern cities should embrace immigrants. Stop misusing words, Colony.
Indian community has been part of Kenya most especially east Africa for over 200 years,remember that Uganda and Kenya are former British colony,so during colony era British brought a lot of Indians as a workers most especially on the rail line from Mombasa to Kampala Uganda,the same thing happens in Guyana South America
Hi in this blog, since you are three and the people you are interviewing are almost similar, I would love to see your colleagues participating in asking questions.
I really enjoyed this vlog.. i was getting triggered aswell but the guy explained. Its a shame you couldn't go to the estate and show us. I didn’t think indians stayed in langata. I only knew of parklands, ngara pia south c they were many but moved now fill of somali's Thanks for sharing kama kawaida 💕
Indians are humans just like us. Whilst culture may be very central to their livelihood it defines how they even relate to other cultures abroad. The caste system, (I may not have good knowledge about it) but it is a system used to segregate certain communities some are seen as superior to others. The communities at the bottom-they are considered to be the untouchables- cannot climb the society ladder hence regarded as a people who can ONLY do menial jobs. It has been like that for centuries in India despite modernization. Now this culture hangover, is brought here in Kenya and makes them treat their employees exactly the same as the "bottom feeders ". PS. The untouchables are known as the dalit* community. There are tones of documentaries about them.
If they want to practice the caste system, then they should stay where it's practiced. This is a country where the locals have welcomed them and it is for them to assimilate not the other way round.
Indians. JEWS, ARABS, NIGERIANS no matter where or which ever country they go to always prefer living eith nd amongst their own community's that way they gell together know md follow their culture traditions foods level of noise peace etc. Plus it makes them feel at home.
@tombimashri8149 Yes but they also need to remember that it is not their home as much as they are feeling at home. They've been welcomed by the locals and should try to assimilate.
@@the_traveling_missIvain Tures was quick to judge by saying Abidjan was more developed than Nairobi after being in Nairobi for only 2 days! I laughed it off and I knew he would change his mind quickly once he starts moving around. I mean Abidjan is beautiful and probably the most developed in the whole of West Africa but there's no way it is more advanced than Nairobi. No West African city can hold a candle to Nairobi. As Kenyans we don't appreciate our capital city or even the country until we move to other countries. I'm sure you can attest to that since you've traveled widely in Africa.
