Yes but you knew your King was no coward if he mounts a horse, roasts its flesh and shares the meat with everyone present! That takes the kind of commitment that no monk could ever understand. Hahahaha! Yayati mentioned in the Vedas who some claim to be the forefather of Odin was famous for his bravery in battle and the completion of the Ashvameda Sacrifice. It was said that this great sacrifice to the gods was rare since many kings and rulers attempted this difficult feat and were unable to meet its requirements.
@@izzyj.1079 That is a matter of opinion and a perspective which comes from a culturally bound value system. I do not condone sacrifices of animals or humans. That is superstitious and cruel. I would not recommend having sex with a horse. We need to understand without judgement the minds of the peoples from those cultures and the context of the times they were living in. The world was a violent and dangerous place a man must be committed to the safety and welfare of his people or he would not make a good leader. If a man longed for a life in the spiritual world and was not committed to his life here on earth he would be weak and indecisive at a time when the use of force and ruthless power was necessary to protect and promote the life of his people. Dreamers and Monks do not make good Kings.
@@michaeljensen4650 What exactly does being decisive in, say, a time of war have to do with zoophilia and rape? I'm genuinely curios how one draws a connection between the two. Why do we study history? Ideally, to learn from their accomplishments, and more importantly from their mistakes so that they aren't repeated. The entire point of studying peoples of the past is to judge them. So I do. That isn't to say context doesn't matter of course, but we should not forget thr context of the present either
The parallels between the horse sacrifice (particularly of white stallions) and the sexual element, with the folklore of the Unicorn and the need for it to be captured by a virgin, are very interesting.
Especially if we take into the consideration the potential shared meaning of that word for breaking/taming/r-word (thanks RU-vid). Makes lots of sense in context of Roman glorification of the act
@@johndelong5574 we use prisons for that. Full of people that hate sexual offenders of any kind (not counting those that screw other inmates, it doesn't count as rape)
@@towerswe it's possible but hard to confirm. I've actually seen a "unicorn" (deer with a bony protrusion at the center of its head, wasn't sharp or corkscrew-y but close enough) on my friend's picture so it might have even originated as a real story. Apparently mutations causing antler related issues are very common in deer, at least that's what she said (in my country hunters are required to identify and cull animals carrying potentially harmful mutations to protect the population when local foresters ask them to. They also should prioritise them when they encounter them during the hunt)
All contemporary Nordics are horse girls, we must select mates on the basis of horse girl tendencies present in the genes for the sake of our survival, they will be extremely necessary soon
Greetings! The importance of horse rites were also prominent in life of the Ancient Hungarians. According to the "Legend of the White Horse" (which was preserved in the Medieval chronicles: Gesta Hungarorum, Chronicon Pictum) during the Hungarian conquest of the Carpathian Basin Grand Prince Árpád of the Magyars bought Pannonia from the Moravians for a magnificent White Horse. The Magyars sacrficed horses on various occasions, for example before wars and during burials, and they also ate the meat of the sacrificed animal. Hungarian folklore also preserved a tale ("Fehérlófia" - Son of the White Horse) in which a white mare gave birth to a hero who gained his power by suckling the horse's milk. During the Christianization of the Hungarians in the 11th century, the consumption of horse meat was strictly prohibited which also hints the importance horse sacrifices. Of course this is not surprising at all since they were a horse people from the steppes, and it is known that horse rites were also important to the Uralic and Altaic peoples. But the Magyars were living together with various nomad nations for a really long time, including Indo-Iranians. It is also quite possible and suggeted by some scholars that Indo-Iranic peoples played a large role in the ethnogenesis of the ancient Hungarians which strengthen the possibility of cultural transfer. I really enjoyed this video also, keep up the good work! And I wish you a happy new year!
It's difficult as a modern person to understand ancient origins of word and language. During those times to be sexually merged was to take mutual responsibility for that binding. The social leverage of married or unmarried status was real, during those days a "you break it, you buy it" was possibly the best anyone could ask for. Who else would step in at that point to fulfill the role? The social stigma on him would remain and the town would punish him or alienate him for further transgression.
The white horses cut into the hills of Britiain are a fantastic example of this part of our hertitage. I remember seeing these as a kid and it really captivated my imagination.
@@johndelong5574 the early christians saw the value of our pagan heritage. Many of our old oral traditions were written down by monks. This is not about chistanity vs paganism, it's about understanding who we are.
To rape is to assert dominance and to tame the victim, much like taming wild animals with their own will and nature. You could consider rape to be one of the essential practices for "taming" women.
Also for the Slavs, the horse was an important and venerated animal. For example tribe of Rugians from the isle of Rugia used to keep a holy white stallion. The holy stallion was never worked or ridden and only used to foresee the future during the act of divination. Slavs from Russia used to sacrifice horses to tame aquatic demons by throwing a cut off horse head into the lake or river.
@Suebian There's still a lot of debate on what tribes were actually Slavic or Germanic. You could argue that most of the official history of Eastern Slavs was written during the reign of ethnically German Catherine II by German researchers and historians, so even the Varangian (Normanist) theory of Rus' statehood could be a lie to justify the Germanic rule over Slavs.
@Suebian there is a chance that Slavs absorbed and assimilated some of the Germanic population including the name. Germans in Prussia much later exterminated and assimilated original Prusians and took their name.
Aryans first came to Eurasia from South-Central Asia or the Himalayan range. They were a horseman nomadic tribe of Indo-Iranian origin. And they brought Sanskrit languages with them.
Christians: "Our Blessed Savior will arrive, shining like the sun, riding a white horse!" Pagan: "Oh, gods! Please, No more!" Christians: "-So will all his saints!" Pagan: (covers eyes) "How can you be so perverted!"
@@jasonbelstone3427 Hindus believe that the tenth incarnation of Vishnu will come at the end of the Kali Yuga... riding on a White Horse. So it's really not an alien concept to pagans.
@@toreschanke4086 I also would argue against "stole", but simply because nothing is original, specially in fiction/mythology. Every aspect of every religion is a bunch of concepts, teachings, myths, figures of speech and etc that already existed before and were combined in a certain way by a certain group of people. If you go back far enough, you would probably find the real life events thats inspired such tales, like the theory that flood-myths of mediterranean religions is the oral memory from the end of the Ice Age and the rising of the seas. So, christianism didnt "stole", it simply combined existing things, like every other religion before it.
To the viewers from eastern Europe, do note that due to the Ash-urn culture being prevalent among Slavic people during the early medieval period it's difficult to make many findings in regards to human-animal co-burials. We do have some examples from Croatia where Bull-skulls and Wolf-skulls (both notably animals associated with Veles despite the population predominantly worshiping Perun) were buried near ash-urns and skeletons. Horse burials are rare and exclusive to warrior graves... The horse skelletons in question were also usually female. We also see some graves of individuals of non-European origins (east Asian) who show signs of malnutrition, abrasions on their wrists and ankles that indicate bindings, intentional skull deformation (elongation) and most notably what is a (very regular) cause of death by a bludgeoning instrument striking the head such as a mace or hammer. Whether they were human sacrifices or simply captives is still being called into question (all of these findings are contained to the 6th century). The presence of human findings with ''Oriental'' features in this area ceases all the way to the period of the Mongol invasion during the reign of King Bella the IVth.
@meme LOL, no doubt. But you can train any animal to do anything. Yet it does seem strange to me that the subject of animal - sex is so taboo, especially since almost worldwide now, all barnyard animals and many pets are impregnated using AI. Males are masturbated to collect sperm, females then have some of that sperm injected into them using a syringe. Human hands and arms are regularly inserted into vagina's and rectums and penis's are stroked by human hands on the reg. Ofc it's not done for human sexual gratification, but still. AI is even done to chickens and Turkeys!
@@censoredbyyoutubeagain4569 I think anyone who fixates on one type of animal and one only are a bit odd. Same with anyone who hates one particular kind (with the exception of mosquitoes)
@@chrissibersky4617 Thank you Chris , I don't know Shakespeare. I know it was Henry 8th that said it, maybe he was quoting Shakespeare, so we will still stay friends. Have a good day. Greetings. Winifred Thompson, Lisburn, Co.Antrim, Northern Ireland.
Good, comprehensive documentary. Not a fan of these customs. Saxo Grammaticus wrote how at one point the Danes had subjugated the Saxons and exacted a tribute of 100 snow-white horses for every successive Danish king and Saxon chieftain.
when the american Indians when they got the horse it became part of the ritual and burial sacrificed. it not like this but the horse becomes important to group and people who encounter them.
I've seen some articles online saying the Indians might have already had horses and the original American horses didn't die out in the ice age like we thought they did interesting stuff
@Thatvikingguy Some Amerindian tribes did eat horses, Apaches? But others did not. There's an account of some white explorers traveling through the north west who had to kill some of their horses for food. Some local indians visited their camp and were offered some of the cooked horse meat which they took and started eating, but when they realized it was horse meat, spat it out in disgust.
In ancient Rome, the festival of the October Horse was both sacrifice to Mars and the end of the harvest season. It is fascinating to see the possible ancestral connections between cultures so separated.
In Polish to tame a horse is "udamawiać" read like udamaviat' (damayati in sanskrit) so it's very similar but it means literally "to house" it, to put it home (dom-home/house) 🤔 Btw I've been in a folk dance group for 11 years and I can tell you... The percent of songs in which horse means sexual stuff is about 95%
I just want to note that also in the Kizil caves in China, there is a mural dated to around the times of the Tocharians and Iranians when they inhabited the area with the mural saying “very smart horse who sacrifices himself for his king.” So possibly tocharians could’ve also practiced horse rituals.
Why was horse eating banned by the Norman conquerors of England? Was this to sever us from our ancestral icons in a similar way to St George becoming patron saint and depicted as slaying the Saxon White Dragon?
@@NoName-lo9ym presumably, if it's the norman conquerors, it was part of the economic reforms that enforced and promoted a feudal system. Horses were very important for the norman military so they probably needed as few as possible to be killed. It's also why they taxed the hell out of slaves, so that serfdom would become more popular (at least that was the effect of the tax). This made England's system more like france's, which the Normans would have already been used to. That's my not very educated guess
@@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 I think you've probably nailed it there regarding the horses. The Saxons were not known for deploying trained cavalry in war hence a reorganisation of the system to produce more horses for the Norman war machine. Thanks for the reply 👍
Happy New Years Survive The Jive. There's a number of fascinating burials with horses that have been sacrificed. The white horse is an very old symbol indeed and to a degree carried on into the early medieval burial practices. I once had the oppurtunity to ride a Celtic chariot was one hell of a ride. Take care and keep safe folks.
I used to live in the Camargue rejoin of France where they have bred pure white horses for millennia. When you see them running wild in the marshes it’s understandable that early humans revered them.
The horse riding twins in Norse mythology is also in Indic myth as well. They're called Ashwini twins. Ashwin means rider or knight, a title given to nobility. There's a cricketer even who bears this name R. Ashwin.
This is really outstanding, and having produced a few videos myself, I appreciate the amount of work that went into it. Many more hours than most people realize. Excellent synthesis and presentation of complex concepts.
@@Survivethejive was a good one. but u need to knoiw, that horse in funeral means huns, hungarian magyars, its a fact huns are sons of white horse, human is a horse, odd todd mammal, 5 nails apa ló= horse dad, ancestor=apollo the sun god without hun language its quite baal shit, bullshit kabala hun word= soul horse, inner horse, my name bala-ish=white bala/alba/baal=white hittites were hungarian magyars, siculy székely szaka szőke/blond...
Gore Vidal in his novel Creation includes a Horse Sacrfice with some of the more intimate aspects not omitted. I was a bit shocked when I first read as a naive kid. Great novel by the way
@@OhGreatSwami i've read it a few times as there is so much historical info to take in that I inevitably need to put the book down and read up on etymology of names, who was ruling what kingdom in the axial age etc. Gore Vidal is a great author
Our great western civilization was built on the back of the horse; we used to rely on horses up until the mid 19th century. It's a shame that we lost our connection to these animals.
@Christian Landgrave The meaning varies. I've read accounts of natives in India commenting on disabled persons saying 'they must have done something terrible in a past life'. Suggesting this is their punishment. Other natives in surrounding regions have a different opinion of what Karma means.
The ancient Saturnalia of the early Republic was somewhat similar to some of the eastern IE human and horse sacrifices, as a man was chosen by lot to wander wherever he wished and was allowed to do anything he liked...until the last day of the Saturnalia in which he was required to cut his own throat on an altar to Saturn.
I wonder the type of individual they would choose. Perhaps he or she would volunteer, like the servant woman of a Viking king who passed away. She would sacrifice herself so as to remain loyal to the king into the afterlife.
@@carmichaelree They would doll it up like it was an honour, though in those days you didn't live to a ripe old age, so maybe they got someone on the turn.
I do wonder what The Aryan sages meant when they said this, "Do not kill this one hoofed animal who neighs and moves faster than any other animal"- Yajurveda 13.48 When they were actually contradicting their very own Indo European tradition 🤔
Yes ..and I wonder if it's symbolic..like how other aspects of yajnas are symbolic.. when we do ahwaana then it's symbolic that shiva s come isn't it..he s not actually going to come to the agni kund 😂
@@aishwaryasitaram2227 ofc its symbolic. Take the following verse "Looking for the head of the horse which is located in the mountain of existence, he found it in the inner heart"- Rigveda 1.84.14, Taittiriya Brahmana 1.5.8.2
@@sirfin459exactly. Do you really believe these people sitting at authority sprouting and repeating what the nonchalant flaky and dusty old western “historians” translated of the Sanskrit texts? Do you think they know better than the brahmins who actually officiate these yagnya?
It's good to remember, this is primarily a history channel; just because it's descriptive of the past, doesn't mean he's necessarily prescribing those practices for us now. 🙂
idk, i dont know what STJ's religious and political affiliations are, but he frequently associates with right wing neopagans and his voice is way too excited in this video
We still practise now,we tantri Hindus or chatria warrior clan our ancient culture whow can we insult our fore father's,we still perform this rituals this our religious customs we inheherited from our ancestors..we are proud of it&defend this practise..
It's amazing how not a single Hindu word has been pronounced correctly. It would've been better if he had practiced correct pronunciation before the video or at least done a voice over. I'm a Hindu but never came across a single Hindu legend of human sacrifice in my entire life.
Have you ever read the Rigveda? No, I thought so. In my family (all Indians) I am the only one who has read it! Go and read it first, then we will have an debate about: ashwamedha, purushamedha, eating meat, the description of the Aryans, what the Aryans thought about the Dravidas and the Pantheon described in the Rigveda.
most hindus does not even know what hinduism is or what does and Hindu mean? Lol forget not hearing about this, you don't know what is hinduism and what is not hinduism
Human sacrificed even happened in 18 hundreds. The place where I'm from has a temple where it took place. Humans were sacrificed by kings during Kali Puja. It was called narabali. But later the British banned it. So they instead perform pashubali(animal sacrifice). Which still exist to this day.
Absolutely spectacular content. Tremendous wealth of knowledge with research done within. A gem of a channel amongst all other RU-vids. Don't stop and keep going. A handful of people out there appreciate the time you spend researching and editing everything a great amount. Thanks for the content. This is the type of video I would say deserves every view it has and a lot more. I particularly enjoy the ones where scenery and relevant aesthetics are presented instead of your talking face. Nothing against your face - just that I like to more easily envision the subject matter instead of watching someone talk to a camera.
Does Spartacus killing his own horse in his last battle can be seen as a sacrificial. In some part in East Asia there is a sacrificial horse infront of a stone pillar being called Yupa in such Kingdom as the Satavahana, Kamarupa and Kutai kingdom, and if I'm not wrong they have is also in Ireland or maybe in China.
@@jasonmccombs8123 Don't compare Martin the hack to the genius of Tolkien, please. He may be well versed in the history of medieval England, but he's still a subversive misanthropic scumbag.
Inbreeding has bedeviled royal bloodlines the world over ever since royalty was invented. Ask the ancient Egyptians! Charles & Anne... and their parents tbh, really aren't put together properly. Diana was meant to fix this. She even said she felt like a brood mare!. So now the kids are trying to fix things with genes from further afield. Hybrid vigour isn't just for plants! Now you know where the name "chinless wonder" comes from! It's actually an observation of the British (for British read Norman) ruling class. There was a time just after the Norman conquest that about 12 brothers & 1st cousins ran the whole country. And they weren't exactly "genetically healthy" when they arrived here. It's been inbreeding that has kept these families at the top. As well as keeping titles & land in a very small gene pool!
This is mind blowing. Thank you for not holding back on the horrific details. So interesting to put the White Horse in context. Could this be the coding behind Pegasus and how Pegasus sprung from the head of vanquished Medusa, Chimera or other such monster - assuming that being rival tribes would be remembers as monsters such as Grenvil.
What you said about the ritual literally being a public test of a king's power over cosmic forces that threaten every man and similarly every civilization is exactly the point! And I don't think anyone has put it into words. Thank you.
There are great examples of the significance of the ritual sacrifice of horses and concubines/wifes at kings burials in the culture and religion of the Thracian tribes as well. While we lack a lot indigenous data on their religious beliefs, we have the archeological findings and Ancient greek testimonies which corroborate the lasting legacy of the Proto Indo-European beliefs in the Thracian tribes.
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He (the first purusha or Brahman) desired "let this (his body) be fit for sacrifice(medha) and let me be embodied by it". Then he became a horse as it swelled. He thought, it has become fit for sacrifice. Hence, the horse sacrifice is called as Aswamedha.
Interestingly, the Mongolian Uurga, a 9m long pole with a snare at the end for catching horses sounds quite similar to Odin's byname Yggr (as in askr Yggdrasills = ash of the horse of Yggr) or Rudra's epithet Ugra. Both names mean "the terrible one". It could be that this Mongolian Uurga is an Indo-European loanword with the meaning "to strangle, to tame" because it also sounds like the German "würgen" = to strangle or "Gurgel" = throat. There is perhaps a connection with horrible, protruding, red, eyes (Old Norse ygr = eye; Odin's epithet "Baleygr" = the flame-eyed one) which appear when a man is strangled with a rope because then the blood vessels in the eyes burst (like in Tibetan or Indian masks with horrible red eyes). One method to tame wild reindeer and horses is to tie them to a stake and feed them until they get used to the rider. And according to medieval beliefs, a gallows rope had the power to tame wild horses. The world tree tamed therefore the wild Odin, or his horse, in which he/it was tied to the tree. The linguistic connection of bridle, noose, knot, eye, stake, tree, beam, pillar, gallows, cross, crucifying, horse/donkey (as soul animals), breath, wind, soul, divine soul, sun, strangle, tame, fix, and anchor goes much further.
Recently learned that the name for Odin translates into 'the furious one'. At least in Dutch. Old Dutch name for Odin is Wodan (like German Wotan) and the old word for 'being angry' is 'woedend'. And so it follows that Wodan comes from Woed(furious) + an (being) So in old Norse the 'od' in Odin might mean the same thing.
@@fartz3808 Yes, Wotan is old Germanic. In the younger Old Norse, the initial W was dropped because of its linguistic development. The Indian equivalent to Wotan (besides Rudra/Shiva and Vayu) is the storm god Vata. He has the same root. Besides anger, it is also the root of engl. wit (mind, humor), and means inspiration/mental arousal.
@@fartz3808 Beside Wotan/Vata and Yggr/Ugra here is a third common Indo-European name for this god: Lithuanian/Latvian velnias = god of the dead, veles = souls of the dead; Slav. veles = god of the dead; old norse Odin valfödr = father of the fallen, valhöll = hall of the fallen, valkyria = maiden of battle, valr = fallen worrier; germ. wala = dead, wal = battlefield, wolf = ripper, slayer; lat. vellere = pluck, vulnus = wound, perhaps veiovis, vediovis, vedius = ruler of the underworld; from indo-european *uel- = to tear, to pluck, to kill; thus the ripper, "lord of the dead".
It is more likely a symbolic rather than actual, because i don't think that the sexual intercourse between woman and a stallion is possivle And there is no archaelogical evidence that humans were ever sacrificed, Vedic Society, And at 9:25 what is the "obscene" mantra shouted? Can you please elaborate? I read all the referenced verses and there is no word that says that mantras were obscene?
It's crazy; when I watch your videos, I always feel a connection to what you're saying; as if I've had all these thoughts, ideas and feelings in my head already. Whenever I watch your videos, I think to myself 'ohh, this IS where I come from!'
The referenced texts had been translated by English scholars, not by Indian brahmin scholars which could give more insights and explanations. If you study Indian texts and history from English scholars, it is certainly weird and not certainly accurate. If you want to know more accurate history of vedic culture, you have to inquire from vedic priests, not from English scholars.
English scholars were the first to recognise that Sanskrit was an Indo-European language, and the existince of Dravidian language. The dating of the Rigveda is only possible thanks to Western linguistics. Modern Brahminical interpretation of the Rigveda is highly divergent from the original meaning of the text so to claim it is more reliable is not plausible. Brahmins do not possess superior linguistic knowledge to other people!
@@Survivethejive Yes, many brahmins know Sanskrit and the meaning of the verses much better than any scholar from abroad. Why? Because it's a science of vedic knowledge which is passed from gurus/teachers to disciples and no scholar can understand the science without a guru. The first condition to understand vedic texts properly is to learn from a teacher. Not just to learn Sanskrit and translate the texts without proper understanding... it will lead to misinterpretations.
@@tomashromnik108 On the contrary, Indian religious philosophy has changed a lot over the last 3000 years hence there are many schools of thought. The Rigveda endorses animal sacrifice and eating beef so evidently Brahmins are not practicing the same relgion as is expressed in the RigVeda
@@Survivethejive yes it changes according to time and circumstances. It is described in the Srimad Bhagavatam why the sacrifices are not applicable in Kali Yuga and why the only functioning sacrifice is changing of The Holy Names of God. People are so spiritually degraded nowadays that they are not able to perform such big sacrifices as in previous age Dwapara Yuga. So they can at least chant God's names every day. It is hardly possible to do any other sacrifice every day and no other sacrifice is not recommended for Kali Yuga than chanting Holy Names of God.
On the 30th of April 2022, Pegasus will be returned to his place in the second "Eye of God." Think of the visiting stars and their relation to Orion the Rider. "Dan shall be a Serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his Rider shall fall backward." The sacrifice remembered the first moment of the Vedas -- "Agni" the Fire. The reason it is the "right" horse sacrificed is because it is the second "Eye" that will bring us the Conflagration (whereas the first is to bring us Flood). The reason it is Mars celebrated is because of the red of the victor sun (known elsewhere as Son of Man) and because in his stance he recalls Orion and in his helm he recalls the star that approaches us from on high (atop the Sun). The man who could substitute for the horse would be the one of the zodiac thrown down (Aquarius who loses his head in the operation like a John the Baptist). And the reason a woman would stand atop the one sacrificed would be to show that one day Aquarius shall (hopefully) be restored. [Jury's out on that one because the oceans trade sides twice a Precession.] The twin horses are the old sun and the new sun, which was seen as "reborn" on occasion (either five times a Precession on the Ahau schedule, or four time a Precession on the Ram schedule). Unfortunately for us the two measures coincide this time! The Fenris Wolf will be here momentarily! The sprinkling of the blood will be understood when we are sprinkled with the iron oxides of Nibiru very soon. The Boar is like Ganesh -- a god of the North in our time. Note that the horse's mane forms a Hey/E associated with Aquarius. The cremation of the horse is the Conflagration of the return of Pegasus. At 37:26, note the 10 marks of the Dragon signifying the 10 years following his arrival to his Cataclysm (being the Flood). He arrived February 27, 2010. We haven't long to wait. At 37:44, you have a sword rising between two axes very similar to the Mayan sign of the New Ahau with the Raven rising between two Stars (noting our soon Reversal). The King was Orion -- the Cerne Abbas giant. The Mare was the Sun. The soon-to-be-decapitated Uffington Horse. P.S. -- Many thanks for awesome scholarship!
The state flag of Lower Saxony, Germany shows a White Stallion. It's the old Saxon Horse and coat of arms of the old aristocratic family of the Welfen. Very Indo-European indeed.
I know that in some famous Hindu epics they have a horse ritual where they release 6 white stallions in every direction and then the prince had to return them as part of the ritual for king ship.
Tom at 7:56 the way you said indra is the PERFECT way of pronunciation. Thats how the Sanskrit words with the a at the end should be pronounced. With a short a at the end. Perfect. Not too long aaaa like most people say (indraaa). And not complete deletetion of short a like modern speakers of indian language say (indr) Same is true to all the words with short a at the end. Yoga Veda Varuna Just a short little a like you said and not a full aaa You should learn Sanskrit tom.
iirc there exists further scriptural evidence for the queen not being penetrated by the horse in the Asvamedha Yajna. For example, in the Ramayana, Lord Rama uses a golden statue of his queen in lieu of Sita Herself, because she’d been exiled. I really don’t see a stallion being able to penetrate a golden statue lol. It also suggests that the rite of having your wife get under the covers with horse was more symbolic and had less actual metaphysical significance, considering u could do the rite without your actual wife present. The Saptarishi Vashishta was the head priest presiding over Lord Rama’s Asvamedha Yajna as well
@@Survivethejive while that is true enuf, many concurrent jurisprudential documents written in the Vedic era as well as those after it often echo the notion of sex being purely for the sake of procreation as opposed to pleasure. There even exist rites for atonement and penance for men who have consciously ejaculated in anywhere other than a vagina while awake. I’m thinking that this sexual morality would surely have been present in the time which this rite was being recorded
@Hobo A wife under the covers with a horse was most likely symbolic. Because getting a male horse to get a hard on is more difficult than most people think. It usually requires a female in heat very close by, that the male can see and smell. Though it seems some male horses can be trained to get hard via stroking since AI for farm animals is a very common practice world wide now. Males are masturbated to collect sperm, females then have some of that sperm injected into them using a syringe. AI is even done to chickens and Turkeys!
@@Survivethejive Not quite. The ritual in the Ramayana is pretty close to the one described in the YV. The ritual portion with the queen was at most a mimetic one, not an act that was really carried out. Furthermore, the officiating priests had to recite purificatory verses after this portion of the ritual was complete in order to prevent the ritual from being fruitless. Plus, there also seems to be some evidence that the queen's portion of the ritual is a later addition to the Ashvamedha which originally had only the horse being killed. Jamison alludes to this in her translation of the Rigveda.
This is your best video till now in my opinion. Thank you so much for your work, it is worth so much and helps to preserve our history! Greetings from the Alps
There is also plenty of archeological evidence from Thracian burial rituals including a chariot, horses, dogs and in some cases a chariot rider. Check out the chariots from Karanovo and Sveshtari.
I really like this video,I also am very interested in the Indo-european culture that our ancestors had,in many ways the Roman practice of syncretism had the right idea behind it..
To elaborate. The Turkic tribes migrated to central Asia and westward from their ancestral homes presumed to be near modern day North Korea. Turkic tribes had a tradition of taking enemy boys captive and raising them as part of their own tribes or as mercenaries so that might explain why even today over half of the ''West-Asian'' folks have paternal ancestry from Europe. The Kozacks still engage in the same old life-style tho along with some large land-owning families across Eastern Europe after they started recovering from the effects of Communism.
The Eurasian steppes seemed to have been dominated by warlike horse peoples since the beginning of the bronze age. First the Yamna culture, Scythians, Huns, Turks, Mongols but the long tradition of steppe-conquerors ended with Tamerlane and the Timurid empire.
As messed up as the sexual implications with the mare are, I'm just as confused as to how xD my dad was a vet and we've done ultrasounding on mares a lot, if a mare is not in heat or is not receptive, she is not gonna let you near her private parts. She'll kick and toss, I've been bitten before by a mare that didn't like the ultrasound machine. Female horses are very difficult to deal with sometimes, they can be far more aggressive than males when it comes to her foal or her heat cycle. I can't imagine the number of kings who got their legs broken by an angry mare while trying to... yeah you get the picture.
@@Survivethejive fair enough but that still leaves the question of how somebody does that to a mare by himself, himself I'm assuming since that's what the depictions show. Which I suppose we may never understand that and I suppose I really don't want to understand that xD some things are better left outside of my understanding
@@Salt0fTheEarth 💥🤯😡🔫, The few times you hope that eternal hellfire actually exists. I thought by the time I've watched 3🚶♂️1🔨, mexican cartel and necklacing videos I'd be immune to this, but that's another level of injustice. How am I going to treat this PTSD now 😡
@Jake Marsh Nonsense. Any animal can be trained to do anything. Sure helps if they are in heat, but when you look at the way AI is done with almost all animals now? Also, that mare was probably scared of that machine is all, as almost any horse would have been. One of my horses was scared of the tape measure I used to see how tall it was. Took me like thirty minutes to get it used to the tape before I could actually use it, lol.
Need more videos on the connection across Europe through the indo European cultures. It's the most fascinating and deserves more attention. Also I remember some family crests from medieval times featuring two reared up horses I wonder if that is a nod to ancient times. Cant remember what family Crest it is but i can see it in my mind
