Indonesia: Diversity under threat | DW Documentary 

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No one is asking why this is happening. This is happening because of decades of Saudi money going into charities, endowments, madrassas to further whabbaism.

@Christina R fundamentalism is the disease of religion . must be a radical to oppose fundamentalism , nationalism and extreme capitalism and communism . freedom but respect the rights of others and the rights of the Earth to exist for future generations .

@@ramatgan1 no stupid...this is pure politics, its divide and conquer...the current president is just a salesman who being forced into become precidency , he has no skill at all ...and his team used divide taqtique to gain support from minority, by using "test the water" approach and sadly the Muslims majority quite often fell into their traps ..this wasnt the first time...PDIP party (main power who support Joko widodo )is pro comunist view

tumpal you need to see from our view to, that way communication built-in proper manner ..this was never a religious issue or race but due to poor decision, policy from the current leader...you think theres only radical Islam? but what about those Christian radicals who also fueling this tension under the table?

Even the Pancasila is ideology of so many people with various background :(

As Indonesian myself, a nation born around in one singular ideology is tend to fall apart. ideology pop ups everytime, a nation cannot survive itself in it's basic ideology while other nation are growing to make their society better. That's why philosophy is as important as religion. But Indonesian tend to equalize philosophy and atheism. Sebuah negara gaakan sehat kalo gaada sisi oposisi di dalamnya, sedangkan di Indoensia gaada oposisi politik, semua tergantung power, uang, dan kultur yang gamasuk akal.

@@theodora4218 gila bener bgt apa kata lu

i know this is actually really dangerous, what is worng with this people, do they never went to school and learnt pkn

@@Halo-wp3zh it's normal for indonesian. pelajaran hanya sebagai obyek yang bukan semata2 untuk pengetahuan, namun hanya sebagai obyek untuk melewati 3 tahapan pendidikan. As a fresh high school graduate in Medan, this is what i see. Karena sistem pendidikan yang mengutamakan nilai dibanding meaning dari pengetahuan tersebut, akhirnya lulusan sma sampai terbawa ke kuliah juga seperti itu. cuma sedikit orang yang bener2 mikir kalau ilmu itu ya untuk kehidupan, bukan semata2 karena untuk lulus dan alat mencari uang di masa depan. Tidak pentingnya sejarah selain Perjuangan kemerdekaan dan masa kerajaan Indonesia, ngebuat banyak warga yang ter doktrin dengan Agama, terlebih yang dominan adalah agama Islam, yang dimana filsafatnya itu "kalau belum dapat berarti itu kehendak tuhan" instead of "i must really know this thing/get this thing for the sake of humanity" itu juga faktor lain kenapa pendidikan Indonesia seperti itu. Don't get me wrong, gw juga islam, kata2 gw tadi berlaku ke semua agama, bukan berarti itu salah, namun beberapa filosofi mesti dikedepankan, karena kebanyakan inventor di tahun 1800 an bahkan kebanyakan atheis, dan secara ironis kaum2 beragama menggunakan alat penemuan orang2 atheis yang mereka sebut sebagai calon penghuni nerakanya. Budaya kita sudah mengakar si, apalagi dari segi tontonan, edukasi, dan kultur sehari2 yang menurut gw sedikit kemungkinan untuk Indonesia berubah, kecuali ada peristiwa yang bener2 mendalam atau berdampak, seperti perang, atau yang lainnya, kalau keadaan begini terus, gak yakin negara ini bahkan bisa bertahan lebih dari 200 atau 150 tahun kedepan.

А я надеюсь разрушат эту погонь

Yes, that's right, I agree that this country will remain a secular democratic country, And I think, for example, if Indonesia and Malaysia don't turn into Muslim countries, maybe they will be like Thailand

Similar pattern. What's going on really? Some accuse the _extremist_ preachers linked to Saudi that is behind stuffs we saw in countries, and some accuse extremism is the phenomenon of one denomination carried to other.

​@@ankokunokayoubibecause Islam, wether the beliefers accept it or not, means to be in a politic. I was a muslim, and I learnt it again and again and again through schools that our religion, Islam, is and should be the source and guide for everything in life. The only reason Indonesia wasn't a muslim country because the culture that affects the people at that time were pretty tolerant unless there was some kind of manipulation to hate a group happened. My sister once said "Why are you okay with lgbt atheist?", and I said "because those people are non-beliefers, so they shouldn't be judge by our religion?". "But do you believe in Allah, in Islam? If Allah is true, then that mean His rules should be rules for everyone, we even have rules how to treat non-beliefers, why does non-beliefers should be judge using other than Islamic rules if you really believe in Allah?" I believe that non-beliefers shouldn't be judge by my religion at that time, to me that's what makes sense because I've learnt to be tolerant. But at the same time, I had a hard time answering her last question because I know that her statement is true, we learnt that in Islam, religion is a guide for EVERYTHING, not just a way of a lifestyle, but EVERYTHING, which included politics, law, economic, etc.

Indonesia is not an Islamic country despite it’s being largest muslim population

@@2rythm797 it's quite like Türkiye despite being shy about being secular

Indonesia and Malaysia have a background influence of Chinese, Taoist, Buddhist cultures. The effects of Islamic culture is muted. As fundamentalist influence hardens it is not going to be the same in future. Below are the effects on a nation as the population becomes increasingly Muslim (Note: it mirrors the three stages of Jihad found in the Quran which is initially peaceful, then defensive before becoming explicitly aggressive): As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority: United States - Muslim 1.0% Australia - Muslim 1.5% Canada - Muslim 1.9% China - Muslim 1%-2% Italy - Muslim 1.5% Norway - Muslim 1.8% At 2% and 3% Muslims begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs: Denmark - Muslim 2% Germany - Muslim 3.7% Spain - Muslim 4% From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal food. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves - along with threats for failure to comply. France - Muslim 8% Philippines - Muslim 5% Sweden - Muslim 5% Switzerland - Muslim 4.3% The Netherlands - Muslim 5.5% Trinidad & Tobago - Muslim 5.8% When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they willingly increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris -car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam - Mohammed cartoons). Guyana - Muslim 10% India - Muslim 13.4% Israel - Muslim 16% Kenya - Muslim 10% Russia - Muslim 10-15% After reaching 20% there will often be hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning: Ethiopia - Muslim 32.8% At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare: Bosnia - Muslim 40% Chad - Muslim 53.1% Lebanon - Muslim 59.7% From 60% the will be unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on non-muslims: Albania - Muslim 70% Malaysia - Muslim 60.4% Qatar - Muslim 77.5% Sudan - Muslim 70% After 80% we see State run ethnic cleansing and genocide: Bangladesh - Muslim 83% Egypt - Muslim 90% Gaza - Muslim 98.7% Indonesia - Muslim 86.1% Iran - Muslim 98% Iraq - Muslim 97% Jordan - Muslim 92% Morocco - Muslim 98.7% Pakistan - Muslim 97% Palestine - Muslim 99% Syria - Muslim 90% Tajikistan - Muslim 90% Turkey - Muslim 99.8% United Arab Emirates - Muslim 96% 100% will usher in ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ - the Islamic House of Peace - where there is now universal peace (because there is complete submission) and this is what it looks like: Afghanistan - Muslim 100% Saudi Arabia - Muslim 100% Somalia - Muslim 100% Yemen - Muslim 99.9%

not corruption sir, but more into radicalization of religion

@@christdaniel8953 i think corruption is the real problem, and religion only be a tool for that

@@ariffurqan9862 Actually in the long run, I think both are the problem. But in this video, they highlighted mostly on how this religious based movement are being misguided in creating public actions, policies and social trends among people in democratic countries. Not discussing corruption directly.

@@ariffurqan9862 nah nah nah coruption is lowkey understandable... The radicalization in the name of religion is disgusting!!!!!!!! 2016-2017 they trying to takedown the goverment.. They self proclaim to be habib check indonesia fake habib who change his name to habib not as honor title but as a name..

Isnt this a lyric from the Epic Rap Battles Of Presidency made by skinnyindonesia24,but translated?

True, They're using the majority's religion as a bait to gain vote from brainless people without real work progress in mind is just awful, those kind of people that escalate and keep repeating all of these mess. The circle never ends.

Thanks to full democracy, extrimists can speak. Democracy or dictatorship, they are just systems. They work only as good as the people behind them.

Karena kita bukan negara sekuler bro , di sila pertama udah jelas KeTuhanan Yang Maha Esa .. yang jadi masalah adalah kaum konservatif dan kaum nasionalis coba gabung kekuatan jadi itu yang membuat isu agama jadi gorengan hangat dimasyarakat dan orang-orang coba tetap mencoba sekuler hanya bisa komen di media sosial seperti kuta ini

@@netizenterhormat9768 Negara kita sekuler. Tapi tidak atheis. Njenengan tidak akan mau negara sektarian. Sekuler bukan berarti tidak beragama, tapi tidak bawa bawa isu/sentimen/faktor agama ke ranah politik. Dalam eksekusi, pemerintahan harus terpisah dengen masjid/gereja/kuil/dll agar tidak ada konflik kepentingan.

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he just had a bad friend circle and assume everyone behave like that. loser behavior I would say.

​@@sentientartificialintelligencethere is no such thing as a radical Muslim

​@@lunascomments3024loser behaviour huh? My church got burned down by an angry mobs when i was an infant I was bullied by the entire neighbourhood since i was 3 Then what happened when i fight back? I was got threatened by them that they would report me to the cops. If you were in my shoes you will less like it....

Kamu harus kuat sodaraku. Sebagai penguatan, silahkan suruh mereka (muslim) untuk buka Quran 33:50, disitu dijelaskan bahwa muhammad boleh ngesex dengan pengikutnya. Itu kebenarannya, tp mereka pasti mengelak! Kalau mereka membahas salomo punya 700 istri, katakan bahwa salomo tidak diperintahkan Tuhan untuk punya 700 istri, it dilakukan untuk kepentingan politik. Sedangkan muhammad? Olloh (bukan Allah kita yg hidup) mengijinkan muhammad untuk ngesex sama semua wanita muslim. Mereka muslim hanya peduli sama angka. Lihat mereka merasa kuat karena jumlah pengikut. Sedangkan kita Kristen harus kuat dalam pertumbuhan kualitas. Roma 12:11-12 (TB) Janganlah hendaknya kerajinanmu kendor, biarlah rohmu menyala-nyala dan layanilah Tuhan. Bersukacitalah dalam pengharapan, sabarlah dalam kesesakan, dan bertekunlah dalam doa!

​@@lunascomments3024nope. I know how he feels. Islam do teaches bullying against non-muslim. Look at muhammad historical evidence. He challenged groups of Christian for mubahalah (last resort if debates can't be resolved by putting curse one on the others) after losing heated debates. The Christian were backing-up because IT IS NOT the way of Christian to put on curse to others. Muhammad do teach to be strong against Non-Muslims. But he loses debates & challenge to curse for the wrong. He said that they'll die if they accept the mubahalah. But in the end, the mubahalah backfired to muhammad. He died horrifically on Aisha bosoms (According to Sahih Bukhari). Also his family dies horrifically by the acts of killing.

Im so sad ... Sangat sedih dan malu ... This is my tolerance country ?

@@raditya_s9463 iya kann😔😔

@AlifPengembaraan A&H terimakasih for you Malaysia 🇲🇾

@AlifPengembaraan A&H ❤❤😢

Aku muslim, tp islam yg mereka anut pasti berbeda dg islam yg aku anut. Mereka membuat penjara bagi diri mereka sendiri, membatasi pandangan mereka, tuli pada pendapat org lain, dan merenggut kemerdekaan manusia.

Lah.bener uga

Sad but true

Well sad but its true :V

True but sad

Skolah gua gk tau klo ada begini an

The Christian , hindu and Buddhists are the fundamentalists

Well welcome to INDIA😂😂😂

Been there and tried that in MANY Western countries already. It simply makes it easier for them to get the upper hand and it's worse now than ever. It has very little to do with class and everything to do with what is written, and mandated in a religious book. It makes Scientology or Mormonism look like a kid's club. The only solution left is a hardline zero-tolerance policy for radical religious fundamentalism with punishment of life sentence and or deportation.

Thanks my brother austronesian.

There really isn't a problem that cannot be solved. So just keep at it. And embrace change. "There is unity, in diversity."

We Filipinos take a lot of things for granted. We have our issues, yes, but in terms of being culturally diverse... Filipinos are more tolerant. We are more LBGTQ-tolerant than our neighboring countries, we've closed the gender gap and in fact, there is a growing number of female bread-winners. The Philippines has closed 78% of its overall gender gap--the best-performing country in Asia. Let's not take these things for granted.

@@rumblefish9 Yeah but that tolerance will be gone in few years. There is actually a rise of Christian Fundamentalism and Zionism in the Philippines. Just few years ago, there is a congressman who propose a new bill to make mandatory bible reading in public schools. Christian Fundamentalism is increasingly creeping in the government. We are just lucky that our president duterte is an agnostic and he did not signed that bill. And now those same christian fundamentalist are again trying to make christian centric bills and laws. They want to make the philippines a christian theocractic country. They are doing what the muslim fundamentalists in malaysia and indonesia are doing. Undermining the minority and turning those country into an islamic country. I dont know if PBMM will allow those christian zealots to influence our government. We'll just see it.

WHO?? WHO IS THE VICTIMS?

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NSULT RELIGION IN INDONESIA IN NOT THE RIGHT TRANSLATION.. IT IS ACTUALY ABUSE! WRONG TRANSLATION WRONG MEANING!

did I not type "cross path" lol

@@kenwongsa5273 i understand lol but for me it means nothing wether you did or not there is soo rare the existance of radicals but more of religious and courage to tell the diferent of a radical and a non radical but a great muslim or ann encourage muslim.. in indonesia only those who lived and speak the language understand

the more uneducated the more religious and the more conservative end sectarian.

@who know? no, there are more country teaches standard human morals than religion. A country build on religion is easily manipulated and ended up being a puppet country.

This is so true in so many levels. Look at Ahoks case, even an Imam says he didnt made any bad remarks against the Quran, but the FPI did, theyre terrorists, gangsters, ISIS coward version who works for rich people they call "Kafir"

It is easier to control people with the promise of secularism, democracy, riches, individualism, freedom and all the other base desires of mankind. What is difficult would be to control those base desires and act godly.

In other words, the religions itself is not the problem, its extremism that is the problem. On that matter, extremism of any kind is always a bad thing. I'm proud Muslim myself but I always learn from every and all kinds of sources to prevent my belief to become too extreme.

how can you comment from North Korea when you don't have internet there. lol😂

Dafini Dafini I’m special.

@@zelina364 so what, do u love plolygamy

sushant narang Obviously not.

@@kimyo-jong4035 Why?

Tenanglah kawan. Media barat itu buruk. mereka membenci agama Islam. Jika kami membenci non muslim seharusnya sudah dari dulu mereka kami usir dari Indonesia. Mereka akan selalu memfitnah orang" Islam yang ada di dunia. Dulu kami memiliki agama asli yaitu namanya kapitayan bukan agama Hindu atau Budha

pahala -_-

And surga. 😂

Exactly

how easy you judges other people ... if you re a muslim, pls dont.

And u worship cows

Not really...maybe they just haven't found this video?

you'll found plenty of them on twitter, but unfortunately most of them are cancerous SJW/feminists

@@yuu0294 yes, closely related to feminists.

There are plenty of well-educated Indonesians who don't speak English, and plenty of uneducated ones who do. As someone who's spent many years there and speaks their language, I'd politely suggest not equating English language ability with education level. Indonesia has done a good job of building the language's relevancy within the country and even beyond its borders, in the example of other countries like Russia, China, Japan, Korea, etc. This kind of thinking contributes to that post-colonial inferiority complex so many people from the former colonies possess.

@Rasendriya most of them aren't indonesian

Wise words my man, wise words. I'm so sad seeing this happen as someone who loves Indonesia specifically because of its diversity

Waduh..good = christian, european. Nah what is your difference wirh the people in this media. I think you are the same with them only in the oteher side. Not tolerance just selfish, Im sorry to your wife...very pity..

@@suyotosuyoto2194 My wife is lucky like that and we just choose to be free and individualistic over more collectivistic and conservative but we are more traditional in family view than the typical European family. I'm sorry you have to hear if my wife embrace European and Christian culture but isn't that just normal? I also feel Indonesians in my heart because Im closed to the mentality. But would it be better with me being an Muslim or what's the pity of my wife?

​@@SEDATEDSlothRecords6083 "I could show her the truth and turn her into a Christian lady" With truth you mean your personal beliefs that you probably inherited from your parents. Sounds more like one more subjective belief instead of objective truth.

@@hanggaraaryagunarencagutuh7072 akhinya nemu komen yg ideal tnp berat kubu kiri dan kanan. Mereka nyenggol2 perempuan2 pake niqab dgn istilah mabok agama sehingga menjurus ke radikalisme yg harus diberantas. Sdgkn dilain sisi cewe2 yg berpakaian macem nikmir atau dinar candy makin maju sepak terjangnya di publik dgn pembelaan human rights. Human right-shit. kebebasan cm berlaku bagi mrk yg mengklaim dirinya open minded. ntah apa tujuannya tp semakin jelas ingin membuat stigma bagi para pemeluk agama yg mencoba dekat dan taat kpd Tuhan adalah ideologi kolot.

@MAni AC o

@MAni AC lol how about with the Islamic golden Age who make alot of sciences and biology and most of them you are currently use?

@@imreino9228 Ya like earth is flat. Lol

@@abcd-oy8ed flat earth is from Arab anda europe at that time human is belive what they see they use imagination that they think its make sense in that time technology is not advanced like at this era and also human also belive that sun is rotating the earth so at this point you have no right to judge them if judge them its same you judge human Notes:Human is beliving that sun rotating earth cause its make sense to them even in the truth that earth rotating the sun why they know cause they do research In sience so shut up please if you really like to debate something that doesn't make any sense meet a idiot that have same mind of you

Correct. Not only in Europe but in other western countries as well. Ironically these people don’t want to live in muslim countries.

@@vyh-186 nothing's ironic about it, the reason why non-muslim Indonesians (like me) prefer to not move to islamic countries is because our culture and lifestyles are barely acceptable there...

Western country should take non-believer, minority in their country.i'm a agnostic. I fear for my life so i have to act as a muslim.its really hard. But instead of us western country are taking some risky muslim.

@@haileybaldwinjack1006 you Indonesian ?

Hypocrisy :D

Better yet they should conduct an Islamic revolution similar to Iran’s one and institute sharia law

That could be sad...

taliban Afganistan or taliban Pakistan and taliban indonistan , people want to go back to primitif life style. they must go to kill human for God, they believe it,s a way go to heaven... (taliban, aqaeda, isis, boko haram, abu sayaf,etc).

that will never happen in Indonesia..

They dont care and they wont realised it either. Their brains are brainwashed and they're too obsess with their own stupid religious beliefs.

So you don't know another more dangerous community?

We most muslim want unity in diversity and to respect others

@@closetedninja9099 just run away from ur family and starts a new life XD nah jk

and the idea of Islam is exact that

@@travelgalaxy8291 we all see consequences in Bangladesh

Then sorry brother. You should try to build a islamic state as like of rashidun caliphate as you have so good majority. If you leave islam, you will be disgraced in this world and also hereafter.

Then how you call your self muslim do your quoran and hadith give you all these rights

@@mithun9643 we aren't extrimist do like in the middle eastern, Indonesian belongs to secularism, Religions can't involved in Constitution

Yeah, Sharia is just for muslims... why should christians/others follow the muslim laws? I reject it too if they base the laws on sharia.

We need the real secularism tbh.

@Azarello funny how you mention about that "holocaust" when its happen first because political reason. And before you say that later many muslim taking part in that incident, yes it does (So does other religion too). And i for one, condemn all people who took that incident to wrongfully kill those who innocent. My point is, stop with your half-asset fearmongering bait or perhaps try harder next time.

@Azarello where's your proof? this just seems like a completely anecdotal generalisation which has no weight to it. Any surveys? any statistics?

I believe the problem is that IRL you simply doesn't just be racist fuck to every single damn people you meet otherwise you're probably are hurt, jailed, dead or all above. However as typical of Indonesian trait once they get in group they became way braver and suddenly all their racist bigoted side is coming out in full view. The meme "apes together strong" really fit indonesian mentality.

When you right or not racist you get Bullying Like me I hate racist be cause that wrong and I get bullying I don't understand what happened in the people brain

@Azarello No majority of Indonesian Muslim are rural who are poorly educated, then they got approached by toxic Wahhabi and forced to appropriate.

a constitution doesn't matter if the government gets away with ignoring it. You can't be secular if you allow people to practice sharia law.

I am sad the Indonesia loss their culture and tradition to ARAB culture and tradition, when they take the Islam as their religious.

To hear young women said she is comfortable with cover from head to toe with black clothing in the hot climate region, it's lie and she is lying to herself. She can have Islam as her religious, she does not have to loss her culture to Arab culture and tradition. What a shame.

Sad reality

​​@@lilyannal5159 im sad christian did colonize us, and im glad muslim freed my country from those christian

Keep your eyes fixed on your own country.

@@zariftajoar9562 in India the problem maker is minority particular community they challenge the majority and other minority and not patriotic in my state indias best state here no religions problems for any one but all of the sudden Islamic fundamentals raises they making problems now here not much Hindu fundamentals like North but we afraid of that being happen by the help of this radicals

What is diversity?

Aljazeera is under arab control.

Aljazera wahabi tv profokator

@@emperorworld3528 and dw is anti-religius tv provokator

@@sangpenyebar5988 bhh see cp.teroris pagan from desert👻🤣🕵‍♀

H Im Yes, you have me and "my little world view" all figured out. Al-Jazerra, along with CNN, Fox, and most broadcasters all promote certain messages and views. Al-Jazerra is run by a highly conservative, strict Islamic government, and it has to perform a certain balancing act to appear impartial (to maintain journalistic integrity). But 9/10 they will mainly report on the plight and achievements of Muslims, while downplaying or not putting emphasis on extremism. They will also have commentators that increasingly side with World Muslims (think Palestine/Kashmir). That being said, I have watched some of their documentaries, and some are very well done. Regarding the rise of Islamic extremism and it's intolerant/hostile nature, Al-Jazerra's documentary or special can't compare to this documentary, DW was flawless. Furthermore, AJ would never promote/priorize it on their website/channel/app. Instead they would report more on the rise of Hardline Hindus in India or Islamophobia in the West. Anyway, maybe my small minded world view does recognize the brilliance and impartiality of Al-Jazerra. And with your everlasting wisdom, you can enlighten the masses.

I think he mean like God is more important than everything. How important do you think God is? if your family turned away from god would you choose family or god? that's what he means that god comes first

The truth is, there was a suicidal bomb which involved kids. So there was a man and his wive who brought their kids to do suicidal bombs, only one kid survived. That's just how radicalism effed up your brain.

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@@olik1228 do you think all people are under muslim rule? Do you think all people has a religion? Some of they are Atheist, Activist, or Believer that Humanity is ABOVE religion..

@@steven.1130 i just explain what he said, so i dont says that all people have religion.

then bali will be nothing no torist it will turn to dust

Do they also disrespect islam

Only if Islam is kicked out of the equation

@@theultrabasedputin9099 Religion be it Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc was never a problem but it’s those followers who use religion for the wrong reasons.

@@RB-rp6ud Islam was actually from its dawn

@@RB-rp6ud only one is the most dangerous todah

@@RB-rp6ud That is where you're wrong my friend... don't look at the people, we all know people are bad, look into the scripture, look at the patterns that promote this

bener sis..apalagi pasca peristiwa ahok kemaren.. mereka jadi merasa dapat celah buat dapet perhatian

They used islam as a political regime, Modify the religion taking to they own advantage, its not islam anymore its a psychotic cult

Well, then... why dont we resist?

In 10 years your country will have many Wahhabis, unfortunately. You'll see your progressive way of life slowly get pegged back and more parts of the country will become like Aceh. Best of luck to you and to minorities in that country

I'm from Pakistan but livin in korea i was thinking to visit Indonesia and in sha Allah i will

They are all religious

ITS A very long list of article 156a cases .

​@@ZZ-ug2bp That is your personal opinion. I am not in the position to judge, but most likely, the judge in the court was under pressure to give him a guilty verdict or else the demonstration on the streets would definitely continue. The judge gave a guilty verdict which was heavier than what requested by the prosecutors. For national security issue at that point of time, he had to be jailed or too much energy of the nation will be used just to guard the demonstration on the streets which could be nation wide. It is a matter of fact that intolerance is increasing because of political effort by certain groups who try to overthrow the legitimate government. Cases like Meiliana in Tanjung Balai, cases like banning of religious services or building of certain religious buildings in various cities, or attacking/ bombing of religious buildings. www.iseas.edu.sg/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/ISEAS_Perspective_2019_4.pdf www.thejakartapost.com/academia/2019/05/11/intolerance-crisis.html theaseanpost.com/article/indonesias-blasphemy-law-being-tested

@@ZZ-ug2bp look at you, you are the ignorance one

yea...those radicals are really easy to get offended huh, didnt realize they also mocking other religion in regular basis smh

There are many of you, some of my friends have converted to Atheism.

When was religion a rational thing?!

@@r.m.pereira5958 😁😁😁100%

@@r.m.pereira5958 it will be rational when we all die. Life doesn't form itself instead by conditioning and arrangement. There's a lot of proof but you just ignore and blinding your self to it

@@r.m.pereira5958 especially country contain "shari'ah" in their understanding.

@@bimaswitch3352 these days there are slightly no difference between nonmainstream and mainstream one. everything is accessible. any excuse?

DIDNT YOU SEE THE KIDS LOOK AT THEIR FACES TOTALLY BRAINWASHED

People need to realise being muslim is not being Arab. You can have different culture and follow the religion. Those who think they are fake Arabs are the problem. Same like in Pakistan.

This is the problem in Malaysia as well. They're becoming Arab wannabes.

@@junnaredd9912No one want to follow the Arab culture

@@junnaredd9912 It's just relegion not the culture....for example we had Hari Raya Celebration (Muslim celebration ) and we celebrate with our own Malay culture example food and clothing) if we follow Arabic culture we will not do those kind of things

Bruh they're starting to be Arab wannabes like Pakistan and Afghanistan heck even Iran thinks that they both really are wannabes just because they follow Islam

@desneribe oh really? I guess he'll keep the conversion machine going on, that is pretty sane

@desneribe I'm not preventing that,neither am I against conversion out of free will, but considering how Islam treats apostates, i think it IS my business to talk about it, not yours

@desneribe okay just think about this for a second, when you consider a massive population, how on earth do you expect every single person in the crowd to agree with a single ideology? No matter how 'perfect' it is (which i most certainly doubt when it comes to abrahamic religions) There's in no way that a massive population will end up agreeing on a single ideology wholeheartedly and convert An abrahamic religion (or rather a cult) can only gain numbers in two ways, either when an influencial person adopts the religion and forces the others to do the same (like a king) or if the section of general population adopt the religion, try to gain power amongst the rest of the popualtion, then forcefully convert them and finally overthrow the administration and establish their own rule, and that is a serious problem to talk about If one or two convert, then it is (probably) fine, but when you see a massive population converting, then certainly there's a problem, and people like you btw, never look at it with such depth

@desneribe oh and also, peaceful mass conversion is a joke, and that's where I talked about every single person agreeing with the ideology and stuff, you didn't read it properly

@desneribe because peacefull mass conversion is not physically possible, if it were to be possible then it means that a large group of people agree with something at the same time, which is almost never the case If there is mass conversion, then it certainly involves a tactic, or can even be violently imposed If it is a peaceful conversion, then it starts slow, with a small group of people

good for you, it's never too late to change yourself be a better person.

Ikr lots of Indonesian muslims forget "Bhinneka Tunggal Ika" but I, a Depok muslim doesn't have any problem with other religions as long as they respect us too

This comment is accurate 100%

If that happens to us there will be riot

This is how slowly Radicalize Majority of the people to Hardline and extremist groups and Convert people of other Faith's this will certainly happen watch it.

lu underestimate jumlah manusia di indo. bukan fpi pun uda ngakar untuk benci nonmuslim apalagi kristen. waktu kecil umur 5 aja gw di rumah tetangga yg kristen ngomong "ada salib, bakar aja tuh" wkwkwk mantap kan

@@CrvenkapicaIVZNG which country do you live?

There 1 video i still remember to this day because it show how easily you can manipulate people using religion Basically there jokowi and prabowo running for president,jokowi is muslim and prabowo is not muslim so jokowi is know more about islam than prabowo and one of the rule in islam is that silent when adzan echoed,jokowi know this rule he pause and prabowo dont know this rule still continue and A LOT OF PEOPLE MAD ABOUT THAT

@@basic_avarage_person The man in the beginning with all the photo's of Islamic leaders is delving into haram practices, idolatry is forbidden.

@mr okoWhether you like it or not, there is no alternative to diversity & pluralism of the human race.

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they never approve it, it's a suicide step for local tv.

Yeah it's kinda impossible tho.

I'm just worried that in the future it will get worse.

Blocked by KPI bruh...

FPl will sue the studio then destroy their front gate, as ususal

@@jaelodondongolodon6768 you just proves this whole video dude. How the fuck you dare to write that

@@jaelodondongolodon6768 you're the example of stupid and uneducated people shown on this video

@@jaelodondongolodon6768 nice move, u just embarrassed ur own country

go back to ur mainland

@@jaelodondongolodon6768 back to ur mainland u said?, it's the Arabs back then and their culture who should go back to their mainland I accept Islamic religion but not the culture, your need to wear Burka is only needed on ur so saint land of desert and scorching hot sun, not on our cool tropical paradise. ur understanding of religion from one side is very dangerous as it is rigid and stale, u only understand and support the opinions and the fact that supports you.

True, im balinese too. the police said that the duty in bali is calm. Maybe because the economies

@FrostBurnTV I'm technically live in the minority condition, now in the college I've a lot of muslim and Cristian friends (more than Hindus). They respect me and I respect them. What I don't like from majority elements are when they minding other people business by forcing their thought to another people for following it even though they have a different believes. Same as some Hindus on India that went trending, I don't like the way they harassing innocent muslims there. Why majority? Because my country believe Democracy. Majority always have that power in politics. Sorry for bad english, peace

@@Darkshadow-ll8ge hindus harassing muslims in india ? the world most acceptance exhibited by hindus even after they being subjected to millennial subjugation,which is derived from hinduism itself where u have the freedom to choose whatever u believe in .But its sad that they are projected as intolerant by biased media which has shaped your opinion about the hindus .

West sumatera and aceh

Hi, fellow Balinese here; born and raised. If you're a Hindu living in Bali, looking from a local perspective, yes, you are the majority, but nationally you aren't. Nation-wide policies may be issued to benefit the majority of Indonesian (i.e. Muslims). This is not to say that our local government would blindly allow for such policies to be implemented without adjustments. I am just pointing out that Hindus living in Bali can also be disadvantaged that way. Speaking from personal experience, my Muslim/Christian friends often express their opinion on how Balinese have high tolerance towards their non-Hindu neighbors. Though, in this era of social media freedom, we cannot deny that there is similar theme running in the rhetoric from certain group of people claiming to try "protecting the true (i.e Hindu) Balinese" by, obviously, banishing the non-Hindu citizens from the land or pushing for the local government to issue policies that would restrict their freedom in expressing their religious identity. That's just plainly sad IMHO

Even though i am from the majority, i feel you sister :(

The discrimination toward minority has become way of life . Like you said those who strongly disagree are the actors.

I can relate it maam

A sad truth which many choose to ignore :(

Feel sorry for you Truth be told, some of my friends whom got their religion values right and apply it as a kindness (anak rohis) are having headaches and facepalms because the minorities of their religion and some lack-of-understanding citizens just wrecks the positive values that the religion has. Hope you have a better living environtment soon tho...keep the spirit of living!

Good thing the government is cracking down on those radical muslims

Lmao u believe foreigners talks about ur country what silly mindset is that

#free_west_papua #free_west_papua #free_west_papua

@@FlammablePunch Their journalist right? We have got admit that our country do an intolerance. Not everybody but there are a lot

Perhaps invite the Dutch back 😅😉

never in our place to force other religion to follow us, they live with nation law, but we live with Saria one. We want Saria law for ourselves, apply just for ourselves. and you guy still look for problem with that. Central House of worship from five different religions (Catholics, Christen, buddha, and Tao) standing there for decade just less than 500 meters from our central Mosque. We even can hear the church bell from the mosque. We also provide the other religion a special food markets during fasting time in Ramadhan month. We even rebuild their house of worship after destroyed by Tsunami. We school together, work together, even playing badminton together, and you say we are more radical. When in other provinces, the church et. al attached by bomb but in our place, They save to pray. We even solve the problem between religion by discussion, and you guy still said that we are radical. What do you guy want ?

After Timor Leste and now you are targeting Aceh? In the past you said Christians in Timor Leste were not free to practice their beliefs so you supported them to separate themselves from Indonesia and after that what happened to them was just misery because it turned out that it was only a motive to colonize their natural oil products. you better finish your business first and take responsibility for the suffering of the people of East Timor

BANDA ACEH IS SUCKS 👎

Who the fak are you? Even nonmuslim in aceh live in harmony many of then decide to wear hijab.

Banda aceh radikal? Man u dont know indonesia. All region in indonesia have their rule.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences.

Yeah, 6 government approved religion. I think it's because of one Indonesia's core ideology is "ketuhanan yang maha esa", which means Belief in the one and only God. But i believe there are exceptions. Older beliefs that came before all these religions are allowed under special circumstances. There are paperworks you need to have to be able to get this belief to be printed on your documents and to be valid in the eye of the government.

Indonesians have to choose one of the 6 religions that have been allowed in Indonesia

@@sanctuaryaddict stfu dude

@@iNeed2.p oh

not anymore, you can actually left religion column in your ID card blank from 2 years ago, or if you believe in a non recognized religion, you can choose "aliran kepercayaan".

Bother other people business ? what you mean man?

@@lasroamer8062 he means what he said

@@lasroamer8062 have you seen the part where a group of boys scouring an area for lovers who is on a date because of the fear of adultery? That is what he means with bothering with other people business.

He don't happy because still bothering other people business

Achmad Daru muslims can mock other religions in malaysia. But others cannot mock islam. Double standards of islam awaits indonesia.

David jacob that is our duty I, you, we and majority of Indonesian who still believed about our Bhinneka Tunggal Ika Jika hanya diam dan tidak menjalin hubungan baik dengan kelompok lainnya maka segelintir orang yang intoleran ini akan semakin menjadi-jadi.

@@jokocahyosantoso8770 true, and i am agree that we, as an indonesian people who still putting our faith to the Garuda and its desciple, to do everything to protect and serve our nation with honor and brave.. but we are facing another ages, another enemies.. Technology, social media, and radicalitation.. We are the silent majority who are being supressed in front of our eyes, because we are too comfortable, we are having a stable livelyhood and has forgot that there are certain people, group and organitation are rotting down our system from rootgrass to the higher society.. this is not about being a majority anymore, right now, believing Pancasila means we have to be actively and forcefully push this very idea to the front.. No matter what stance do you stand for, religions or races, what ur political affiliation, if you are hard enough to push the Pancasila idea, then we will meet in that same spot, in that same common ground, that ground that we called unity, despite all of our diversity.. May God bless you, Joko.. and bring peace to your life 😇

I agree with you. Our ethnicities should be put aside, our religion should be kept private for their own selves. We must have a courage and affection to look at each other as one national brother and sister. That's all. If only it's that simple...

@@kim7990 it should be simple.. and it should started from our self first.. be the example for other to follow the path.. draw a path from our generation so we could passed them for the next generation.. and hopefully, our nation will unite as one.. just like what our founding fathers of this nation wants and dreams ☺

i may not be an indonesian but i have lived here for quite a while. All i can say from a foreigner perspective is that if you want indonesia to be successful country, go fix it, fix your country, especially your people, educate them, teach them, not radicalise them. If ignorance and corruption can still overthrown the country's reputation of becoming a better nation, there would be no chance of this country being that successful country people dreamed of. Please do understand, this is only my opinion. I dont aim to offend or hurt others, im simply just giving my thoughts and interpretation of the country's possibilities so it could be a better place in the future, i hope.

@@moviesmovies6796 Go praise your cow somewhere else

In the current status, Radical Islam is a black plague 2nd to Soviet Union's red plague under 3rd's Nazi brown plague. Lol, don't get me started with the rainbow plague. XD

@@creditcard3466 lol. you can praise that cow at my house any time.

I don't think so, sometimes, Media just give an exagerating new

@@haryisnanto69 just because you didn't see it direcrly on front of your eyes doesn't mean isn't there, just same as your god

Nationalism is also very high, Netizen is the most disrespectful in all of asia. But thank god Indonesia has been reformed before this but it’s still not free from situation like these.

@@shinigummyl1586 Almost every month , you can find religion clash issue in indonesia. Almost 99% is the majority oppressing the minority religion. Even on the people who practicing religion or praying in their own home (not the public church).

5:40

NSULT RELIGION IN INDONESIA IN NOT THE RIGHT TRANSLATION.. IT IS ACTUALY ABUSE! WRONG TRANSLATION WRONG MEANING!

Me too, except I live in bandung

@@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice Bacot, spam

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True af!!

"For you is your religion, and for me is my religion." (Quran 109:6)

Become what?

She's right tho, what are trying to point out here??

True

only need to ban the only religion that deceptively market itself as peaceful.

intolerance is when people use violence and suppression to impose their way of life to others.

@AlifPengembaraan A&H 😆

@Eryque Etiqaz Hah? I'm Tionghoa, born in Indonesia, here we can speak our own language LOL

'We are so far away from it'. SJKC? Chinese radio? Chinese tv? Chinese newspaper? Chinese schools?

@@atengku9660 that ain't it...

@@tippla27 it is. Living here for generations but behave like fresh off the boat. And that's not a problem here. Elsewhere, this is not accepted.

Hello fellow indonesian minority

Wow, what you said was so spot-on. You illustrated the reality of minority life in most of places in Indonesia so perfectly . As a Chinese descent, my family and friends experienced similar situation. Of course we can’t say anything about it . Until I happened to live overseas, I realized how unfair life can be for minority in Indonesia . I wish fair treatment will happen for fellow minority Indonesians .

Oh my god, I am so very sorry to hear that, I'm an Indonesian Muslim who lives in Jakarta my whole life, never once I thought that our people can treat minorities like that, I've never seen it first hand. I am devastated when I read your stories and I'm sure you have many other stories that you can't share. I wish we can do something about this.

God Will keep you

I have ever been live in Europe..and U know..mosque is not easy to build..and even there is no adzan, we only adzan inside the mosque..but church bell is ringing several times a day...and we are the minority feel thats ok...because we are minority..will u considered that as racism??

Indians doing same with their muslim minority

I can tell you that Indonesians don't care about India, and that India and Indonesia does not have the same culture.

The day will come bro.. hope we dont have to endure potential civil war by the next 5 or 10 years

@@stevenramli5021 im afraid it will happen. Because those radicals will never listen and will not stop unless all of them are eradicated (it sounds harsh but you have to for the sake of this nation). I predict that they will make the first move so just brace yourself till then.

@Samantha come on arab and European are different cultures.

@@stevenramli5021 I know right.. would like it if we stopped fighting and discriminating among ourselves. In a family you should always support family members in the face of outsiders no matter what. In the end Indonesia is just a big family.

Hm I wouldn't saying put your own ethnicity at the top but instead having everyone equal so indonesians aren't being tread on.

Use google translate (copy paste) lol 😂😂😂

I have noticed that these two journalist (I think that they are a couple) always have a jolly, and go off to far off places for a holiday at the expense of DW. They need to be investigated. You could have done this report with local journalists instead. DW please stop colonial journalism!!

What about Spain mosques convert to church

These documentaries are very informative and have thorough research work by professionally experienced people. Appreciable work indeed particularly The Monalisa Documentary.

@@jabsdrahm.3232 they are journalist, of course they travel somewhere to investigate something. How the fuck can you make a documenter about Indonesia without even going there? Use your logic

Khalistan is sikhism Call it german-arabia.

Indonesia starched from London To Kazakhstan... Indonesia has 34 million Christians, 67k Churches.. East Indonesia is very different because Muslims is minority.. also 150 million Muslims live only in 1 Island (java).. however million of Muslims are converted to Christian 👍

Sksksksk this is funny

NSULT RELIGION IN INDONESIA IN NOT THE RIGHT TRANSLATION.. IT IS ACTUALY ABUSE! WRONG TRANSLATION WRONG MEANING!

Also to buy some best sangsangs too.

They're hypocrites, they shouldn't be Muslims from the first place.

@ NO THEY SHOUND CAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT RELIGION

1400 years....

Indonesia has been an oppressed society even since before its birth, and for some, Islam is the easiest replacement for that lost authority figure after the collapse of corrupt Soeharto regime.

This is time bomb

There is nothing like MODERATE ISLAM. There is nothing like PEACEFUL ISLAM. There is nothing like SECULAR ISLAM. All what MUSLIMS preach is that they are *PEACEFUL* until they reach majority, then comes SHARIA and these CONVERTED show their true face and dark colour.

@G. Ra so what would happen if Afghanistan immediately turned back to Buddhism? Just look out at Myanmar. Their government doesn't representated the peaceful of Buddha and did civil war. You've already thrown out your minds into a endless cesspool pit if you still compared religion and its believer.

@Azarello it's not, Islam is a religion and that is it. But it is the only religion that taught us how to defend ourselves properly and as humanly as possible if war is unavoidable. If we live in peace then there is no need for defending is it? These small group of people that just want to destroy is exist in every part of communities, religions exist to stop people being people, it wants us to be better because human, if you take a look at our brief history, is full of fighting and war.

@@DanyalElia that doesn't prove any point about discrimination in Indonesia

@Azarello it's the Hard-line Muslim Ideology most Muslims I found are pretty chill

@Azarello Because they USED to be heroes. They defended Indonesia against hardcore communism back then and saved Indonesia from falling into chaos. But that's it. They used to be good, now they're poisoned, spreading intolerance and radicalism, using their influence in the wrong way. I'm not defending but there's a reason why many people defended them. In USA, many people still defended their Confederates, hailing war criminals as hearoes. If even USA have that, it's unavoidable that Indonesia would have them as well.

Islam is a cult and not religion. It has got all attributes of a cult, you can join, but you can't leave, you can't criticize or question it and it's aim is to take over the World. In a nutshell that's fascism.

Because Hinduism is in majority in Bali

Sadly, Bali cant be compared to most parts of modern Indonesia. Bali is the only palce where the original javanese and summatrian hindu-buddhist culture still survives. The muslim parst of Indonesia are loocking more and more like a tropical version of some middle eastern countries year by year...

@@user-uf2df6zf5w yes it makes me very sad

@@user-uf2df6zf5w 100% true

IKR😫😭😭😔

Well money... Enuf said

it was not begun it was peak. Religion intolerance begun when in reformation era after ethnics intolerance issue boomed during new order era. it's like iceberg effect

Indeed

No. It begun since 1998

Setujuuu

The biggest Muslim country in the world.