Inductii: Space Marine Aspirants of the Horus Heresy (Warhammer 40,000 Lore) 

Veterans of the great crusade be like: "Man, it was so much better when we stomped through the galaxy with barely any resistance. Symmetrical warfare sucks, and i'm now surrounded by toddlers".

Guy who was flash inducted 6 months ago and doesn't realize it refusing to let a guy who was flash inducted last week sit with him at lunch

Flash indoctrination, forcing the memories of the dead into new aspirants to quicken their "training". Unification era blood angel in the corner: "Oh no ... the horror. How.could.one.ever.do.such.a.thing. *blank face* "

The ultimate tragedy of the Inductii is that they were stolen from their worlds and then stolen from their own legion culture; truly the damned within the doomed. The dark irony of the Warhammer 40k universe raises it's head once more.

You'd think the Blood Angels wouldn't be too opposed to Flash Indoctrination considering that they, even before the heresy, consumed their fallen to recover their memories and experience and even sometimes took on their names. Its not like Sanguinius even put a stop to it, he just classed it up as the "Rite of Remembrance". So inductii with memories of fallen marines wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary.

The truly bitter irony of those space marines who slowly replaced their Terran-born predecessors being replaced themselves by those they barely consider to be members of the Legiones Astartes is simply excellent storytelling.

Legion to Inductii relations in a nutshell: "I'm so excited to be here" *"STFU NOOB!"*

The cultural rifts between many Inductii and the original marines of the legions seems like it's setting up the eventual splits when the legions become chapters- it wouldn't surprise me if, when forced to split up, many legions would boot out the troops who culturally are the most divergent from the wider legion, and then they'd form new chapters where their culture forms the bedrock of it.

Funny how the Rapid Hypno-Indoctrination was "pioneered" by the IV Legion in the late stages of the Crusade... and is rumored to still by used by that ever-evasive Chapter, the Minotaurs...

I keep forgetting that all Astartes are basically child soldiers. It explains so much about their emotional maturity and behavior regardless of all the hypnotherapy & engineering. Inside that monstrosity of ceramite is basically a scared & emotionally traumatized child...

I love the inductii lore. I had the idea of my word bearers chapter using large alien plants to effectively clone the grey matter of falling legionaries, flash inducting *all* the children of their cultist auxiliaries. Creating space marines with the memories of many dead warriors. Glad it actually makes sense in the lore now.

In the grim darkness of the far future, one historitor battles against the tide of ignorance and superstition. Praise be to his efforts, and praise be to the Emperor, beloved by all!

Sounds like the Legions were sundering even before the adoption of the Codex or the Chaos Legion Wars. With Astartes split within their Legions by homeworld, era of induction, and ideological disagreements about how to organize and replenish their dwindling manpower, and without the common experiences that bound the Crusade era Legions together, it sounds like it would be easy to break the Legions down into Warbands and Chapters.

Warhawk has a great scene where White Scars inductii was assembled for deployment and onw of the Keshig is there to swear them in and they draw attention their shiny new mk.6 against the old marines battered terminator armour.

Love this upload, honestly, the nuances of Space Marine creation are what I most want to be elaborated upon in official lore. Like, how exactly does an apothecary cultivate gene-seed from recovered progenoid glands, what form does it take, does it get wasted if the aspirant fails? So much of it is left in the dark and leaves serious holes in the operation of Astartes chapters

Big E: "Horus, My son! You have proven yourself trustworthy to finish the Great Crusade! For that, I trust you with the title of Warmaster. I placed great trust in you." Horus: "Thank you, Father. What are you going to do?" Big E: "I'm heading back to Terra of course!" Horus: "I see. You're helping out with Uncle Malcador in stabilizing the bureaucracy and government of the Imperium?" Big E: "Ohohohoho! I have much bigger plans than that, Horus!" Horus: "Will you tell me about it?" Big E: "Sorry My boy, but I can't." Horus: "But why?" Big E: "Because I don't trust you."

Its actually quite sad, Ironic and fascinating that the Blood angels went back to their 'Revenant Legion' roots, eating the flesh of their comrades instead of their enemies.

I really like this, brings back some of the body horror and misery of the rogue trader days.

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Always nice to get some more broad context to the Horus Heresy. Trying to read 60+ books is a little daunting and these lore vids help a lot.

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Flash indoctrination: You know, like updating your motherboard, but your updating a brain. Something tells me the mechanicum didn't like this

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In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only logistics.

The negative impact of hypno indoctrination is interesting. It makes me wonder about the long-term reliability of Cawl's first crop of Primaris Marines. 10k years of hypno indoctrination may not have such acute effects as this rushed process, but still, one of Cawl's projects has got to blow up in his face eventually.

History doesn't repeat, but it often rhymes. Great Crusade Astartes slowly getting phased out by Inductii, just like Firstborns are slowly getting phased out by Primaris.

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I would say that Alpha, the first Primaris that ArcMagos Cawl made being one of best examples of both savage warrior almost unbeatable, who is probably thousands of years old, while also being one of greatest Primaris psykers, beside his depressing demenour, is probably closest to invincible, that humanity in the 42nd milenia can make.. Yet his demenour, being surrounded with arogant Cawl creations all the time is rather expected..

Mayhaps losing ones rememberances of childhood and empathy is actually a blessing, if one is to become a living, walking weapon of mass destruction.

Listening to this in an empty room and the echo gives it extra gravitas

Honestly, although I do disagree with a lot of the codex's tenants and aims, The Horus Heresy pretty much damn near shattered many legions and birthed chapters, not legions, leading a pretty unavoidable legion disintegration. On the loyalist side, the Iron hands are the best example. The Iron hands were brutalised on Istvaan, and while they were much, larger than the others 2 legions, being able to keep fighting after the heresy, they were shattered and splintered and their senior leadership and primarch had died. Iron Hands forces spent the 7 years of the heresy fighting on their own, or alongside other imperial forces, but most importantly *without contact from other Iron Hands*. So these conditions led to the diversification of the Iron hands. One chapter sized group of broken and bruised veterans fighting a guerrilla war against the advancing traitor hordes in the frontlines would differ vastly from a chapter of newer recruits fighting alongside the Ultramarines. The newer influx of scratch built recruits, would vary different from the older ones. Combine that with the various Blackshield warbands being turned into chapters and you have a bunch of completely different and alien forces. This also explains the disintegration of the Traitor legions just as well as the influence of chaos and the degeneration of the legion command structure and order of battle. The traitor legions on average took the most attrition, being spread out and thrust into the fires of battle, and being flooded by the new and cheap Inductii. Combine that with various legions like the Night Lords being absolutely thrashed by the Dark Angels or the World Eaters being, well, *The World Eaters* then it can be easily explained why they would turn into chaos warbands, the Sons of Horus and Night Lords becoming thugs and street gangers in power armour.

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Oculus Imperia AND Noah Caldwell-Gervais uploading on consecutive days? Be still; my beating heart...

It’s certainly interesting to see just what changes in training does to change the culture of a fighting force. Most profound differences I have personally seen is when I went in the United States Marine Corps could kinda be split up every few years by the nature of the training at the oldest we had the SNCOs and Officers who came up either just before or immediately after 9/11 so generally like 98-09. Then you had the ones post Iraq to around when I enlisted in late 17, I was the first cycle to have a large change in the training since about 2009. Then everything changed again when Covid hit. It’s not overtly noticeable to those on the outside looking in but it is one of those things that when you’re in you can mostly tell the generational difference.

This Flash induction sounds a lot like Cawl's brain downloads

0:19 It always makes me laugh when GW artwork - especially Space Marines - depict someone like this, looking up at the horizon but firing into the ground... Bolt rounds do not grow on trees, soldier! lol

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Huh this didn't sound like a huge topic but it ended up really good

Loved the lore about Inductii that GW added, its a great addition to show the desperation of the times and how it would shape the legions and how it resulted in some having damaged geneseed with organs that had degraded to literal uselessness. Only thing I can complain about is how GW decided they'd all be using mark 6 power armor instead of the vastly easier to repair and manufacture Mark 5, which was literally made for such desperate times. I hate how they took mark 6 and retconned it from being a prototype near the end of its development that was very well suited to the Ravenguards style of warfare to something that every forgeworld and their mother was mass producing and could therefore become the staple of the Inductii. Mark 5 just fits that so much better. My moneys on GW retconning it so they could market and sell the new mark 6 models they had released at the time. Which, in my opinion, acted more as a spoonful of vinegar then suger to "make the medicine go down better" so to speak.

Noteably, Inductii were only one form of rapid reinforcement during the heresy. Newbloods were grown over about four years, and used by both sides. This rapid growth created issues, of course, but it was a way to get reinforcements when needed. This was then further reduced by the SoH to six months into what they called "Newborns". Usually only having a success rate of one in thousands, again, it was all about rapid reinforcement, especially for the Solar campaign.

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I loved the depictions of the 16th legion Inductii in the first seige of terra book. Really made the decline of the Sons of Horus feel personal. You spend the first few books of HH learning about how glorious and efficient the 16th legion was, and then the first book of SoT shows you the Inductii's existence as purely barbaric despoilers and cannon fodder to be sacrificed in any number to seize the system.

Well done brother! I enjoyed this one.

A suitably dark and chilling tale of a dark and chilling time.

most of the old art gets the the Imperium's tone just right.

wow, holy shit, this whole "not a TRUE Astartes/shit-ass half-breed" mindset wasn't just for Iron Warriors against Honsou. Seems the loyalists had similar misgivings. It is so ironic, because they are *DOING* these kinds of half-measure marines, yet they complain about it.

Amazing video as always

Actually "terata" (térata) means monsters in Greek...A good choice of a word for Fabius' creations...

It is sorrowful that so many practices of imperium were only meant as stopgap measures during heresy and now imperium has lost its ability to use anything but said methods. Or even consider alternatives.

Traitor Inductii, the only group that makes an Imperial Guard Penal Regiment seem enviable by comparison. Its like the worst parts of being a whiteshield, skiitari and Thunder Warrior all in one horrifying package.

Ok, yes I clicked as soon as I saw that Oculus had returned. Gosh dang I love your content, seriously. Especially when you start expressing the emotions and acting out the events of the Oculus’s life. So well written and a joy to listen too always. Thank you so much for sharing this all with us :)

I honestly would like to hear your take on a conversation between Oculus Imperia and a Space Marine; just throwing it out there (i mean Oculus has spoken to a traitor marine and the inquisiton by now; possibly, for fun, maybe have Oculus given the chance to sit down for a face-to-face with an Aeldari.. ;) )

What an amazing topic

You have a very special voice. Soothing and unique.

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Another great way to add more depth to the Horus Heresy and the legions themselves. You always do a great job of expressing that depth, well done as always Oculus.

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ood stuff...definetely well put together

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Really interesting video oculus! Hadn’t really considered this but it makes sense with the appalling casualties all the legions took during the heresy. Keep it up!

It seems that the salamanders are one of the better legions for inductii - though there seems to be little lore about theirs.

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Great video these are always a great listen

Superb! You bring a level of knowledge, nuance and understanding that almost none can match!

So wait there was imperial fists recruited from the 16ths home world?

I would really like to see a video focused on the armor and weapon adaptations forced upon loyalists and traitors alike.

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Most excellent

In the recent huron blackheart book there is a former sons of horus inductii in the red corsair ranks

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Brilliant brother!

Thank you so much for this video, that was a question lurking in the back of my mind for years.

Always get excited when I see you've posted

Entire companies of inductii yet they have no rite of war for them.

Another master class, Occulus. Well done! When's that 100k QnA gonna drop, man?

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Love this channel, juuuuust enough hope to have the grimdark crush down harder.... Maybe this is something I should worry about in my psycho-conditioning....😃

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Every episode is awesome. Love you channel, love WH, ave dominus nox.

It sometimes comes up how over powered or even Mary Sue-ish the space marines of 40k are. Stuff like this, discussing turning kidnapped children into brainwashed killing machines as though it's a good thing (and maybe even in context being RIGHT) is just brilliant.

So i figure my mk vi ironwarriors will be inducti ( cause what self respecting iton warrior would wear mark 6 right? 😅 ) How to paint them so they look like inducti n not ya normal IW legionnaire

Ok, ive heard the term "hothoused" a couple of times when watching this channel, but cant find a reference for what that means. The best i can find is it being a possible synonym for greenhouse? Can anyone elaborate on what hothoused means?

While I feel bad for the veteran Astartes being whittled down so badly, I also find it morbidly satisfying given how poorly they treated their Inductii.

@Oculis can you do an in universe in character 8nterview with Baldemort

I know that you probably get asked this all the time and its probably a subject with a ridiculous amount of conflicting information, but a video on the two lost legions would be amazing.

I imagine most of these poor sobs would have been thrown out there with nothing but a rusty and battered set of early crusade armour and a sharpened piece of pipe, rather than the priced and rare beakies, perfectly polished for the parade ground as shown in the artwork. Also l love that bit with the iron warriors essentially turning their vehicles into proto demon engines or some sort of upscaled servitors. Putting supersoldiers into tanks is a pretty retarded idea anyways, l wonder why noone else has come up with that idea before.

Amazing work, as ever.

The blood angles should had been the master of this, the Eaters of the Dead , The Revenant Legion

I know its not entirely possible, but this is why the Emperor wanted his legions atomized and not turned into little cliques, and disparaging different ideological and/or culteral means preventing combat effectiveness.

HUGE

question for those who are here. Do the modern space marine legions still use the same indoctrination measures as those of the Legiones Astartes? I'm making my own Space Marine chapter and i feel something like that would be really important to the lore of it's more notable battle-brothers.

It boils down this is why we can't have nice things

Would be nice if we got some real sculpts for these guys

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Yes !!!

its been 2 wks where is the new video :(